[jaxie]

Now that Jezza has been voted in again by his fans and sycophants. Do you think he will be able to win over the voters, particularly those who aren't already labour suppprters?

I struggle to see the appeal personally but his supporters seem quite rabid in favour.

[Cherie]

Can't see it personally, I lost alot of respect for him during the referendum when his heart clearly wasn't in the remain camp, the fiasco on Virgin trains finished me off

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Can't see it personally, I lost alot of respect for him during the referendum when his heart clearly wasn't in the remain camp, the fiasco on Virgin trains finished me off

Same. He was too wishy washy with such an important issue.

[bitontheslide]

he wont win me over, and he will have a struggle even winning his own MP's over.

I mean, it's one thing to say the slate is wiped clean, but the divisions, and the vote of no confidence still happened. If the mp's that voted no confidence change their stance, what does it say about them? What does it do with respect for the labour party in general?

I'm going to need to buy in shed loads of popcorn

[kirklancaster]

in a word - NEVER.

[Northern Monkey]

Labour can't win GE with him in power.He does'nt appeal to the average voter.Just the hard leftists.He has a kind of cult following but that's not going to get him the votes to beat the Tories.He doesn't seem to mind the anti semetism from his fans,He would pull us out of NATO given the chance,He's terrible on defence and has admitted he wouldn't launch our nuclear deterrent if the worst ever happened.He's a nice chap but would be a liability to our country as PM.Labour need a leader with more realistic policies to ever be a contender.All imo of course.

The best thing he could've done to save Labour was pull out of the race and retire to the back benches.He is helping to destroy the Labour party.

[Shaun]

not whilst the media are owned and controlled by the sorts he opposes, no

[Withano]

He doesnt really need to win people over, he just needs to appear better than whoever leads Tories.. Possible..

[Johnnyuk123]

It didn't matter which donkey got voted in cos labor have no chance of winning anything whoever got in.

[smudgie]

Unfortunately I think he is the death knell for labour.

[arista]

"events "
change all the time.

Yes he could become Leader
never rule it out

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Labour can't win GE with him in power.He does'nt appeal to the average voter.Just the hard leftists.He has a kind of cult following but that's not going to get him the votes to beat the Tories.He doesn't seem to mind the anti semetism from his fans,He would pull us out of NATO given the chance,He's terrible on defence and has admitted he wouldn't launch our nuclear deterrent if the worst ever happened.He's a nice chap but would be a liability to our country as PM.Labour need a leader with more realistic policies to ever be a contender.All imo of course.

The best thing he could've done to save Labour was pull out of the race and retire to the back benches.He is helping to destroy the Labour party.

Do you think it's arrogance? That he believes it must be him?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

He doesnt really need to win people over, he just needs to appear better than whoever leads Tories.. Possible..

He really does though. Historically Scotland was very important to labour and they've lost all support there. He has to claw some of that back to give the party enough seats for a start. He inspires no confidence.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Shaun

not whilst the media are owned and controlled by the sorts he opposes, no

The media don't control his performance on Prime ministers questions but he doesn't inspire much. He doesn't perform well in his roll of opposing the Tories.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

He really does though. Historically Scotland was very important to labour and they've lost all support there. He has to claw some of that back to give the party enough seats for a start. He inspires no confidence.

I think Labour and Scotlands relationship is long gone, they will rightfully be voting for SNP for the forseeable future. Corbyn has got to convince a couple million English people that hes better than May or whoever takes over her.. Possible..

[kirklancaster]

He is not thick - He KNOWS the score - WITH him as leader, Labour will NEVER be in Government, so the only POSSIBLE explanation is, that he is more devoted to SELF than PARTY.

The EGO has landed - a cushy job for life as Leader of The Opposition.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think Labour and Scotlands relationship is long gone, they will rightfully be voting for SNP for the forseeable future. Corbyn has got to convince a couple million English people that hes better than May or whoever takes over her.. Possible..

He has put FOOT IN MOUTH far too often over DECADES - and ALL of it on PUBLIC RECORD, and most of it definitely NOT what the majority of the British Electorate support.

There is more chance of a wooden rocking horse winning the Cheltenham Gold Cup, than there is of Corbyn EVER becoming Prime Minister - and I would wager EVERYTHING I possess on that.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Labour can't win GE with him in power.He does'nt appeal to the average voter.Just the hard leftists.He has a kind of cult following but that's not going to get him the votes to beat the Tories.He doesn't seem to mind the anti semetism from his fans,He would pull us out of NATO given the chance,He's terrible on defence and has admitted he wouldn't launch our nuclear deterrent if the worst ever happened.He's a nice chap but would be a liability to our country as PM.Labour need a leader with more realistic policies to ever be a contender.All imo of course.

The best thing he could've done to save Labour was pull out of the race and retire to the back benches.He is helping to destroy the Labour party.

Agree with this except I'm not even sure he's a nice chap anymore. He does seriously care about his causes, true, but he also seems indifferent to the abuse that gets meted out by his supporters and seems incredibly intolerant of anyone who holds views different to his own.

Every bit of evidence points to Corbyn's inability to win an election: the party's poll ratings have been poor under him, his own personal ratings are terrible, Labour have fallen to third place in Scotland, their voters are leaving in large numbers an the party is completely divided in every way possible. I genuinely see no way that he can possibly turn it around.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Do you think it's arrogance? That he believes it must be him?

Nah i just think he's idealistic and determined.Unfortunately his Utopian dream will never become a reality.The country has no appetite for his brand of politics and the real world will never be the one he wants it to be.In the real world he would destroy the country.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

He has put FOOT IN MOUTH far too often

Arent you a fan of Farage/UKIP? Pretty evident that a tactless mind doesnt really matter to most people

[bitontheslide]

I think it is true, never say never. The next 2 years or so are going to be quite a battlefield on lots of fronts, but it would take quite an aligning of the stars to make Corbyn successful. If, there is some small miracle and labour as a party start to turn things around, I don't see it being Corbyn that will be the focal point for it. He doesn't have the personal charisma or leadership to achieve it. He doesn't have the respect of his fellow mp's let alone anyone else. That's just not a recipe for success.

I could go on and talk about the massive hypocrite he is too, but I think that's secondary to the main problem that he has. He simply is not leader material.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Withano

Arent you a fan of Farage/UKIP? Pretty evident that a tactless mind doesnt really matter to most people

Farage speaks a hell of a lot of sense from a patriotic viewpoint.
Farage is NOT the leader of HM Opposition Party
Farage is NOT desperately trying to become PM.

Corbyn's disgusting anti-patriotic, terrorist-friendly leanings are well documented.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Farage speaks a hell of a lot of sense from a patriotic viewpoint.
Farage is NOT the leader of HM Opposition Party
Farage is NOT desperately trying to become PM.

Corbyn's disgusting anti-patriotic, terrorist-friendly leanings are well documented.

Lol ok

[Withano]

Sidenote, if you think Farage/UKIP is more tactile than Corbyn/Labour then I'm kinda done with the dialogue..

..my only point is that he only needs to appear more capable than his competitors, he doesnt need to win over the masses.. and that is looking possible because his competition are at large, incredibly stupid.

[Vicky.]

I can't see it personally, though he was my choice..the other guy was no better.

The issue I see with Corbyn, is he never actually explains anything. I took part in a webchat with him a few days back, and it was disappointing to say the least. He completely avoided mentioning any of the more difficult/political questions, instead chosing to answer things such as 'whats your favorite biscuit' and 'whats are you reading right now' (funnily enough...answer was a book called 'things fall apart'. The irony was not lost on me). The actual political and important questions he fluffed around with, wrote out large paragraphs that didn't really answer anything.

I agree with him on many issues. but he needs to start saying how exactly he will bring these idea around. Re-nationalising is not the answer to everything. David Miliband did an article on it all a few days back and it makes a lot of sense on so many issues

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...rward-not-back