[Liberty4eva]

This is what happens when Trump goes to a Catholic dinner/charity event and Hillary is also there. So Brits know, this is a traditional event in the American Presidential race where the candidates (usually) poke fun at themselves. You gotta see this from start to finish. It's wonderfully awkward

Youtube video

[Ammi]

..yeah I watched a little earlier, a highlighted version...Hilary is also pretty cool as well, so slick......I noticed those cheeky smiles that Trump was having at her, he couldn't help himself...I bet he was thinking, wow I wish that she was my President what a lady......

Youtube video

[Withano]

Omg, Trump was doing so well until the 12 minute mark, even humerous and likable at some points. So awkward haha.

[Withano]

And Clinton just made it 4-0

[MB.]

Wow! Unbelievable! Trump blows Hillary away! Can't believe what I just saw!

[Withano]

"Donald thought I used some sort of performance enhancer, and actually I did. Its called preperation" hahaha

[Toy Soldier]

Wow! Such speech! Many blow! So away!

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah I watched a little earlier, a highlighted version...Hilary is also pretty cool as well, so slick......I noticed those cheeky smiles that Trump was having at her, he couldn't help himself...I bet he was thinking, wow I wish that she was my President what a lady......

You're on a roll lately Ammi, constantly tickling my ribs

[joeysteele]

Was what I expected of him,he is all over the place.
I imagine a lot there felt very uncomfortable listening to his near rants, surely no way will American voters elect such a man as president.
I really hope not and hope he is soundly beaten in this election.
What an opportunity missed by him to show even just the slightest bit of humility at such a function.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Was what I expected of him,he is all over the place.
I imagine a lot there felt very uncomfortable listening to his near rants, surely no way with American voters elect such a man as president.
I really hope not and hope he is soundly beaten in this election.
What an opportunity missed by him to show even just the slightest bit of humility at such a function.

If he had presented a level-headed and mature demeanor, humility as you say, and even a bit of self-deprecation here... making out that the campaign trail is all games and tactics and pointing out that once either one of them is in office it will be down to the "serious business" of actually being President, this was an opportunity for a major win for Trump.

The problem is of course that if he does win, it WON'T be down to the serious business of running the country, it'll still be games and "zingers" and immature posturing from him bumbling through with no idea what he's doing.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Was what I expected of him,he is all over the place.
I imagine a lot there felt very uncomfortable listening to his near rants, surely no way with American voters elect such a man as president.
I really hope not and hope he is soundly beaten in this election.
What an opportunity missed by him to show even just the slightest bit of humility at such a function.

I don't think a lot of people on here understand the American mind. Americans despise politicians. And when someone comes along who is not a politician even if they are a little crude and rude they consider it to be a breath of fresh air. Just to give you a fair warning: on Nov 9th you may be in for a shock with who Americans pick to be president.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

I don't think a lot of people on here understand the American mind. Americans despise politicians. And when someone comes along who is not a politician even if they are a little crude and rude they consider it to be a breath of fresh air. Just to give you a fair warning: on Nov 9th you may be in for a shock with who Americans pick to be president.

I do have fears he will narrowly win this although I still hopefully feel he will not be able to break through the States he needs to win.

Some of my family who live in Los Angeles keep telling me not to be concerned as Hillary will in the end easily win this.
They have thus far in 20 years never got an American election wrong,hopefully they won't be wrong this time.

Thank you very much for your input and response to me ,I am always eager to hear the American view on elections too.

[arista]

Yes a Fun event
Well done Trump

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

I don't think a lot of people on here understand the American mind. Americans despise politicians. And when someone comes along who is not a politician even if they are a little crude and rude they consider it to be a breath of fresh air. Just to give you a fair warning: on Nov 9th you may be in for a shock with who Americans pick to be president.

…with respect I think that we in the UK do have an understanding of a frustrated world atm..(which obviously includes the USA…)…because they’re world frustrations that are being felt and we also all too well understand with those frustrations, a dislike of government/parliament establishment in general, regardless of personal political leanings… but what you say, the way you say it…that anything ‘anti’ no matter what that ‘anti’, doesn’t make sense..it would just seem dumb to vote for anti because that’s all it was and I don’t believe that the people of the USA are dumb at all…the USA wasn’t built on dumb, it hasn’t become the nation it is through dumb….that’s like saying I hate dentists so I’ll have my hairdresser to do my teeth work because she’s not a dentist…/I hate the police force and someone is threatening someone so I’ll go get a waitress or something…however, if an alternative option was someone like a member of the armed forces/someone appropriate to a situation..?...then that’s an alternative consideration/I like the army forces, I’ll ask if this chap here can help because I hate police officers and he has experience…it’s not like voting to get Rage against the Machine to #1 over Simon Cowell because manufactured music is hated and Rage Against the Machine is anti so they’ll do../we’ll buy them on itunes instead….we wouldn’t even think in the UK of shall we have Ant or Dec to run against any of our ‘establishments’ unless either were someone who we felt were able and capable and had good, sound policies and qualities to admire and also had confidence in them being able to implement their changes….’anti’ is just such a dumb thing unless the anti itself is something to vote for and something of great meaning in it’s own right …not just any old unsavoury character with prejudices and who instils no confidence in any ability of being able to do a job or even understand a job of politics….

..Hilary might represent some of what is the worst in establishment, I get that…but her establishment is also what makes her the better qualified person to become President, she knows politics, she understands politics, she has lived much of her life in politics in some capacity…voting for Hilary mainly because she isn’t Trump might be far from the ideal in candidates but it does at least have some sense about it because of her political knowledge/a job requirement I would think…but voting for Trump because he’s not Hilary and because he’s not ‘establishment’ makes no sense at all because he has nothing else there on offer…. nothing, zilch, zero…I think (I hope..)…the great American people are smarter than that…otherwise the bigger shock might be for them…/be careful what they wish for…

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…with respect I think that we in the UK do have an understanding of a frustrated world atm..(which obviously includes the USA…)…because they’re world frustrations that are being felt and we also all too well understand with those frustrations, a dislike of government/parliament establishment in general, regardless of personal political leanings… but what you say, the way you say it…that anything ‘anti’ no matter what that ‘anti’, doesn’t make sense..it would just seem dumb to vote for anti because that’s all it was and I don’t believe that the people of the USA are dumb at all…the USA wasn’t built on dumb, it hasn’t become the nation it is through dumb….that’s like saying I hate dentists so I’ll have my hairdresser to do my teeth work because she’s not a dentist…/I hate the police force and someone is threatening someone so I’ll go get a waitress or something…however, if an alternative option was someone like a member of the armed forces/someone appropriate to a situation..?...then that’s an alternative consideration/I like the army forces, I’ll ask if this chap here can help because I hate police officers and he has experience…it’s not like voting to get Rage against the Machine to #1 over Simon Cowell because manufactured music is hated and Rage Against the Machine is anti so they’ll do../we’ll buy them on itunes instead….we wouldn’t even think in the UK of shall we have Ant or Dec to run against any of our ‘establishments’ unless either were someone who we felt were able and capable and had good, sound policies and qualities to admire and also had confidence in them being able to implement their changes….’anti’ is just such a dumb thing unless the anti itself is something to vote for and something of great meaning in it’s own right …not just any old unsavoury character with prejudices and who instils no confidence in any ability of being able to do a job or even understand a job of politics….

..Hilary might represent some of what is the worst in establishment, I get that…but her establishment is also what makes her the better qualified person to become President, she knows politics, she understands politics, she has lived much of her life in politics in some capacity…voting for Hilary mainly because she isn’t Trump might be far from the ideal in candidates but it does at least have some sense about it because of her political knowledge/a job requirement I would think…but voting for Trump because he’s not Hilary and because he’s not ‘establishment’ makes no sense at all because he has nothing else there on offer…. nothing, zilch, zero…I think (I hope..)…the great American people are smarter than that…otherwise the bigger shock might be for them…/be careful what they wish for…

You are applying logic to the voting decision though Ammi, and rule 1 of democracy is that you can vote for whatever your choice without need to justify it. That's how complete idiots get elected.

If we look back at the brexit vote, in the run up, one of the reasons people gave for voting brexit was to get rid of David Cameron. That was laughed at, at the time .... don't be stupid ... it wont affect him. As of today, he is no longer even an MP I'm a great believer that if something is meant to happen, it will, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Well done The Donald. Great speech.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…with respect I think that we in the UK do have an understanding of a frustrated world atm..(which obviously includes the USA…)…because they’re world frustrations that are being felt and we also all too well understand with those frustrations, a dislike of government/parliament establishment in general, regardless of personal political leanings… but what you say, the way you say it…that anything ‘anti’ no matter what that ‘anti’, doesn’t make sense..it would just seem dumb to vote for anti because that’s all it was and I don’t believe that the people of the USA are dumb at all…the USA wasn’t built on dumb, it hasn’t become the nation it is through dumb….that’s like saying I hate dentists so I’ll have my hairdresser to do my teeth work because she’s not a dentist…/I hate the police force and someone is threatening someone so I’ll go get a waitress or something…however, if an alternative option was someone like a member of the armed forces/someone appropriate to a situation..?...then that’s an alternative consideration/I like the army forces, I’ll ask if this chap here can help because I hate police officers and he has experience…it’s not like voting to get Rage against the Machine to #1 over Simon Cowell because manufactured music is hated and Rage Against the Machine is anti so they’ll do../we’ll buy them on itunes instead….we wouldn’t even think in the UK of shall we have Ant or Dec to run against any of our ‘establishments’ unless either were someone who we felt were able and capable and had good, sound policies and qualities to admire and also had confidence in them being able to implement their changes….’anti’ is just such a dumb thing unless the anti itself is something to vote for and something of great meaning in it’s own right …not just any old unsavoury character with prejudices and who instils no confidence in any ability of being able to do a job or even understand a job of politics….

..Hilary might represent some of what is the worst in establishment, I get that…but her establishment is also what makes her the better qualified person to become President, she knows politics, she understands politics, she has lived much of her life in politics in some capacity…voting for Hilary mainly because she isn’t Trump might be far from the ideal in candidates but it does at least have some sense about it because of her political knowledge/a job requirement I would think…but voting for Trump because he’s not Hilary and because he’s not ‘establishment’ makes no sense at all because he has nothing else there on offer…. nothing, zilch, zero…I think (I hope..)…the great American people are smarter than that…otherwise the bigger shock might be for them…/be careful what they wish for…

I always enjoy reading your posts (always polite) even when I might not agree with them. Right now, Americans are really, really bitter at Washington. And Americans generally like an underdog. Someone who fights. I've read one of his books and I've seen him with my own two eyes in person. He understands human psychology (at least in the US) in ways that few people seem to appreciate. Hillary has a problem in that she is not a very likable person. When the Clintons were in the White House a lot of people were sick of them. People who want to vote for someone will generally be more likely to go down to the polling station and vote than someone who wants to vote against someone. I really do think Trump is going to win and, to be honest, I don't even think it's going to be close. I think he'll win by at least 5%.

[Northern Monkey]

I think it was a good speech and amusing up until started to veer away from amusing and more into the realms of bitterness at the end.

[the truth]

vintage trump

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

I always enjoy reading your posts (always polite) even when I might not agree with them. Right now, Americans are really, really bitter at Washington. And Americans generally like an underdog. Someone who fights. I've read one of his books and I've seen him with my own two eyes in person. He understands human psychology (at least in the US) in ways that few people seem to appreciate. Hillary has a problem in that she is not a very likable person. When the Clintons were in the White House a lot of people were sick of them. People who want to vote for someone will generally be more likely to go down to the polling station and vote than someone who wants to vote against someone. I really do think Trump is going to win and, to be honest, I don't even think it's going to be close. I think he'll win by at least 5%.

I agree with your conclusion and reasoning that it'll be because people are sick of politics and politicians. No one expected Brexit and it happened, for exactly the same reasons.

...Trump is currently 5/1 to become president on Betfair. I personally think that is a very, very attractive bet and I've made a decent bit on "novelties" betting in the past. I was very tempted to bet on "out" at Brexit but didn't because I was being optimistic and didn't think it would happen. I should have listened to my gut. I'll have money on Trump. Some consolation is better than nothing at all. Helen Wood won me the £££ for my PS4 - maybe I can get my PS4Pro out of Trump .

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree with your conclusion and reasoning that it'll be because people are sick of politics and politicians. No one expected Brexit and it happened, for exactly the same reasons.

...Trump is currently 5/1 to become president on Betfair. I personally think that is a very, very attractive bet and I've made a decent bit on "novelties" betting in the past. I was very tempted to bet on "out" at Brexit but didn't because I was being optimistic and didn't think it would happen. I should have listened to my gut. I'll have money on Trump. Some consolation is better than nothing at all. Helen Wood won me the £££ for my PS4 - maybe I can get my PS4Pro out of Trump .

Me and TS agreeing on something? Ha ha. And you definitely should get in on the betting action. You'll be rich.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Me and TS agreeing on something? Ha ha. And you definitely should get in on the betting action. You'll be rich.

yes, TS will be tremendously rich, so rich he will be able to contribute to the trump wall being built at all UK airports to keep him out

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yes, TS will be tremendously rich, so rich he will be able to contribute to the trump wall being built at all UK airports to keep him out

To keep Trump out of the UK or... to keep me in .

But anyway, all of my money is going to the new "Sturgeon Wall", which will be used to separate Scotland from England... a 50m tall behemoth decorated in an alternating pattern of Nicola Sturgeon, Alex Salmond, Robert Burns, Billy Connolly and Mel Gibson.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree with your conclusion and reasoning that it'll be because people are sick of politics and politicians. No one expected Brexit and it happened, for exactly the same reasons.

...Trump is currently 5/1 to become president on Betfair. I personally think that is a very, very attractive bet and I've made a decent bit on "novelties" betting in the past. I was very tempted to bet on "out" at Brexit but didn't because I was being optimistic and didn't think it would happen. I should have listened to my gut. I'll have money on Trump. Some consolation is better than nothing at all. Helen Wood won me the £££ for my PS4 - maybe I can get my PS4Pro out of Trump .

I think it's a smart bet.... you win either way. If Trump wins....you are in the UK and have a little coin in your pocket.... if he loses, the whole world breathes a collective sigh of relief....and you will think, best bet I ever lost

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To keep Trump out of the UK or... to keep me in .

But anyway, all of my money is going to the new "Sturgeon Wall", which will be used to separate Scotland from England... a 50m tall behemoth decorated in an alternating pattern of Nicola Sturgeon, Alex Salmond, Robert Burns, Billy Connolly and Mel Gibson.