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I am a male, and I am a feminist | 11 | 45.83% | ||||
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I am a male, and I am not a feminist | 8 | 33.33% | ||||
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I am a female, and I am a feminist | 5 | 20.83% | ||||
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I am a female, and I am not a feminist | 1 | 4.17% | ||||
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14-04-2017, 01:24 PM | #1 | |||
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Also what does the word mean to you?
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14-04-2017, 01:27 PM | #2 | |||
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I have no idea.
I believe on a personal level I am equal to man, but until men give birth we will never be equal. I have no problem with men opening doors for me or any other common courtesy. I have no problem with women doing the same. I am no bra burner. |
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14-04-2017, 01:27 PM | #3 | |||
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*made this thread once and it did not go down well*
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14-04-2017, 01:31 PM | #4 | |||
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Really lol? Did it have a poll? It would be interesting (for me cos Im such a nerd) to compare the results
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14-04-2017, 01:34 PM | #5 | |||
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14-04-2017, 01:38 PM | #6 | |||
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14-04-2017, 01:39 PM | #7 | ||
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No!I believe in equality for both the sexes.Even the word 'feminist' is counter to that.
Not to mention the rabid ideology of modern third wave feminism which is more akin to misandry. Note:I love women and support them.The reasonable non crazy ones. |
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14-04-2017, 01:39 PM | #8 | ||
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Male and feminist.
If you believe in equality for the sexes then you are a feminist. |
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14-04-2017, 01:49 PM | #9 | |||
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No, there's too many crazy people who have hijacked the term and took the movement in a direction that I wouldn't want to associate myself with. In fact, I can't think of many groups or movements that I would confidently say I am a part of. The internet has made them all look a bit loony. I just think of myself as a person, a decent human being who respects and wants the best for everyone.
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14-04-2017, 02:06 PM | #10 | |||
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I wouldn't give myself any label, but I believe in the equality of women and that women deserve equality and liberation from oppression, particularly religious oppression where it thrives. I am a woman.
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14-04-2017, 02:16 PM | #11 | |||
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14-04-2017, 02:19 PM | #12 | |||
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I dont like women,
gross beings.
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14-04-2017, 02:51 PM | #13 | |||
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The meaning of the word yes, but I hate the word due to some of the new age feminists these days.
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14-04-2017, 03:06 PM | #14 | ||
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im for equal opportunities and i am against feminism which is not about equality it's about getting as much as possible for women regardless of the consequrnces for men.fatherhood, mens health, mens legal rights, discrimI nation and violence against men, health spending and support for men etc etc the gender war is a false flag in western society to distract from the real war. the elite 1% against the rest
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14-04-2017, 03:08 PM | #15 | |||
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14-04-2017, 03:14 PM | #16 | |||
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.........no i am not a feminist
........however i encourage and am supportive of all women whom seek fulfillment of their potential in a male dominated world Mark L |
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14-04-2017, 03:32 PM | #17 | |||
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I believe in equality of the genders, and support the push for women's rights. I know that's what 'feminism' is supposed to mean but that word is too tainted and cringe to associate with!
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14-04-2017, 03:32 PM | #18 | ||
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Despite what you have been told, in the western world today almost all legal and lethal sexual discrimination is against men. Men are 97% of combat fatalities. Men pay 97% of Alimony Men make 94% of work suicides. Men make up 93% of work fatalities. Men make up 81% of all war deaths. Men lose custody in 84% of divorces. 80% of all suicides are men. 77% of homicide victims are men. 89% of men will be the victim of at least one violent crime. Men are over twice as victimised by strangers as women. Men are 165% more likely to be convicted than women. Men get 63% longer sentences than women for the same crime. Court bias against men is at least 6 times bigger than racial bias. Males are discriminated against in school and University. Boys face vastly more corporal punishment than girls. 60-80% of the homeless are men. Women's Cancers receive 15 times more funding than men's At least 10% of fathers are victims of paternity fraud. One third of all fathers in the USA have lost custody of children, most are expected to pay for this. 40-70% of domestic violence is against men however less than 1% of domestic violence shelter spaces are for men. Male fatality rates are vastly higher than women's Worldwide there are 107 men born for every 100 women, by age 65 there are 78 men for every 100 women, in countries like the USA & UK, its even worse, with 75/76 men for every 100 women. Despite the fact that health care spending for men is nearly twice as effective. In the few countries that have a majority male population and a preference for male children like China, Sons are legally obliged to care for parents when they are older, where as daughters are not. Many other countries like India have this as a social obligation TAX & HEALTHCARE DISCRIMINATION Men pay over 70% of income tax but the vast majority of public spending is on services for women. There is more money spent on breast cancer than lung cancer and prostate cancer combined, despite the fact that lung cancer alone has 3-4 times more fatalities than breast cancer. A man's chance of getting cancer is 44% and 23% of men will die from cancer, 38% of women get cancer and 19% die. Yet there is vastly more money spent on cancer for women, this is lethal discrimination. Women pay 60% less tax despite spending 300% more in domestic spending than men. Women also consume two third of public spending, there are 3 times the amount of gender specific health services for women than men despite the fact that for equal increases in health spending a man's life expectancy rate increases nearly twice as much as a woman's. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE There are hundreds of surveys which shows women are as violent if not more violent than men in domestic violence cases. Men get arrested in 85% of all arrests but its estimated that Women are the perpetrators in most Domestic Violence cases. Most reciprocal violence is started by women and 70% of non reciprocal violence is perpetrated by women. Women however only get arrested in 15% of all DV arrests. This example of 572 different studies covering 371,600 people demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm More men than women were victims of intimate partner physical violence and over 40% of severe physical violence was directed at men. http://www.batteredmen.com/NISVS.htm Despite this though,99.3% of DV shelter spaces are for women and even men who report violence against them by women are arrested far more often than the woman who is attacking them. Government Sponsored Sexism 1) Real sexism is almost no shelters for male victims of domestic violence. 2) Real sexism is men getting harsher punishments for the same crime. 3) Real sexism is countries with compulsorily military service for men. 4) Real sexism, courts that takes children from fathers based on gender. 5) Men cannot even vote or get citizenship without enrolling for the draft. 6) Real sexism is numerous government departments dealing with women's issues but none dealing with men's issues. 7) Male infant circumcision/genital mutilation is legal and performed widely and even completely socially accepted but female genital mutilation is not. 8) A young boy raped by a woman can be forced to pay child support to his rapist if she gets pregnant, that's real sexism. 9) Many countries do not even recognize female on male rape. It can maximally only amount to “sexual assault” that's real sexism. 10) Real sexism is having no special laws like VAWA to protect men, even though men are the majority of victims of violent crime. 11) There are drives to fill quotas for women for the high paid roles but not in the dangerous jobs dominated by men, thats real sexism. 12) In the army, police, fire service or any other position women have to meet much lower physical standards than men. 13) Real sexism is services for men only given a fraction of the funds that services for women are given at a government and a social level. 14) For the same crime, irrespective of the gender of the offender, the perpetrator gets more punishment if the victim is female rather than male. 15) Most divorce laws are skewed against men, men can lose half his properly, money and children to a woman who decides to leave him. He is expected to pay for this betrayal, especially if he has already provided for and supported her, this is real sexism. "Children of never-married mothers are more than twice as likely to have been treated for an emotional or behavioral problem." Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, National Health Interiew Survey, Hyattsille, MD, 1988 A 1988 Department of Health and Human Services study found that at every income level except the very highest (over $50,000 a year), children living with never-married mothers were more likely than their counterparts in two-parent families to have been expelled or suspended from school, to display emotional problems, and to engage in antisocial behavior. Source: James Q. Wilson, "In Loco Parentis: Helping Children When Families Fail Them", The Brookings Review, Fall 1993. In a longitudinal study of 1,197 fourth-grade students, researchers observed "greater levels of aggression in boys from mother-only households than from boys in mother-father households." Source: N. Vaden-Kierman, N. Ialongo, J. Pearson, and S. Kellam, "Household Family Structure and Children's Aggressive Behavior: A Longitudinal Study of Urban Elementary School Children", Journal of Abnormal Child Psychology 23, no. 5 (1995). "Children from mother-only families have less of an ability to delay gratification and poorer impulse control (that is, control over anger and sexual gratification.) These children also have a weaker sense of conscience or sense of right and wrong." Source: E.M. Hetherington and B. Martin, "Family Interaction " in H.C. Quay and J.S. Werry (eds.), Psychopathological Disorders of Childhood. (New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1979) "Eighty percent of adolescents in psychiatric hospitals come from broken homes." Source: J.B. Elshtain, "Family Matters... ", Christian Century, Jully 1993 children from a fatherless home 5 times more likely to commit suicide 32 times more likely to run away 20 time smore likely to have behavioural disorders 14 times more likely to commit rape 9 times more likely to drop out of school 19 times more likely to abuse chemical substances 9 times more likely to end up in a government sponsored institution 20 times more likely to end up in prison |
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14-04-2017, 03:35 PM | #19 | |||
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The truth, I've just read a small amount of your bible-length post and you appear to have compared circumcision with FGM
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14-04-2017, 03:35 PM | #20 | ||
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exactly, whats wrong with simply saying equal opportunities for all.....then maybe we can see that the disabled are infinitely more discriminated against than anyone and light years behind in terms of actually getting real equal opportunities. sadly feminists have even stolen the sympathy the attention, the nhs funding and some government and charity funding directly away from the disabled to feminists and women. Thats why they get so much more spedning per head. Frankly feminism is disgusting and should be abolished and all thats left behind is equal opportunities
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14-04-2017, 03:36 PM | #21 | ||
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14-04-2017, 03:36 PM | #22 | |||
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Ok I'm not reading all that because I have a life, but it's probably because women werent allowed to do a lot of those things by men, as to why those statistics are like that
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14-04-2017, 03:37 PM | #23 | |||
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14-04-2017, 03:52 PM | #24 | ||
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the enemy is and always has been the elite 1% who sent the working man to fight rich mans wars, who sent men into deep dark coal mines with no protection on skivvy wages to pay to feed their families, to die of tb or disease, to deprive the masses of healthcare etc etc the war of the genders is a false flag , its simply part of the old divide and conquer, the only war is the elite 1% against the rest |
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