[Northern Monkey]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...e-minister/amp

[Cherie]

Now if you are looking for something reeking of desperation, that's it

[reece(:]

A scaremongering tea

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...e-minister/amp

Crock of sh*te. But nothing like using the good ol' "Terror" buzzword in your election propaganda, really gets the proletarian shaking in his boots.

My dodgy copy of Donnie Darko probably killed hundreds, too

[joeysteele]

Of course he doesn't, absolutely not.

[smudgie]

He has a point, he can't bring himself to say he would arm the subs.
I can understand his viewpoint ( not that I agree with it) , but he has to sit and write that letter telling the Vanguard class subs to press the button if we are attacked.
I think it simply goes against his principles.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by smudgie

He has a point, he can't bring himself to say he would arm the subs.
I can understand his viewpoint ( not that I agree with it) , but he has to sit and write that letter telling the Vanguard class subs to press the button if we are attacked.
I think it simply goes against his principles.

Jesus Christ, when are people going to realise that "if we are attacked" it's already too late and it doesn't matter who presses what buttons.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Jesus Christ, when are people going to realise that "if we are attacked" it's already too late and it doesn't matter who presses what buttons.

Pretty much.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Jesus Christ, when are people going to realise that "if we are attacked" it's already too late and it doesn't matter who presses what buttons.

Well Jesus Christ, I think we will hopefully know we are going to be attacked before we actually get nuked and nuke the idiots before we fry.

[Shaun]

Are we really having a conversation about who nukes who first in a thread having a go about Jeremy Corbyn possibly welcoming terrorist attacks?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Well Jesus Christ, I think we will hopefully know we are going to be attacked before we actually get nuked and nuke the idiots before we fry.

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons, or ever fire a nuclear weapon, your best and only hope is to be within the immediate blast radius of one of the first few bombs so that your death is as quick and painless as possible. This is the reality of Nuclear weapons and Nuclear warfare. The sooner people get their heads around that, the better.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons, or ever fire a nuclear weapon, your best and only hope is to be within the immediate blast radius of one of the first few bombs so that your death is as quick and painless as possible. This is the reality of Nuclear weapons and Nuclear warfare. The sooner people get their heads around that, the better.

Yes, we will all fry together.
However knowing that we will press the button if we have to instead of just sitting like a pan of fishfingers waiting to fry would help.
Saying he would not be happy with drones picking off terrorist leaders doesn't help either.
The fact that the labour spokesman had to come out and explain that his views are not labour policy is quite telling.

[ebandit]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons,.

.........luckily only a limited no of nations have nuclear capability.......

i believe russia usa uk france china india pakistan north korea..........possibly

israel

greatest terrorist threat is very much low tech

Mark L

[Northern Monkey]

I mean i agree with it.I've been saying it about Corbyn for ages.It is transparent as feck though that this comes out again now in the run up to the electrician.It's too obvious that it's election propaganda even if it is true.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons, or ever fire a nuclear weapon, your best and only hope is to be within the immediate blast radius of one of the first few bombs so that your death is as quick and painless as possible. This is the reality of Nuclear weapons and Nuclear warfare. The sooner people get their heads around that, the better.

This is true.One up and all up.
There has been talk of small scale tactical nukes though.If one sides forces are getting hammered.Obviously you wouldn't use it against another nuclear power like Russia or China but i could see Trump using against NK or Iran.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I mean i agree with it.I've been saying it about Corbyn for ages.It is transparent as feck though that this comes out again now in the run up to the electrician.It's too obvious that it's election propaganda even if it is true.

His interview this morning didn't help

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

This is true.One up and all up.
There has been talk of small scale tactical nukes though.If one sides forces are getting hammered.Obviously you wouldn't use it against another nuclear power like Russia or China but i could see Trump using against NK or Iran.

Trump will probably hit NK as soon as China gives the green light and says that NK is no longer under their protection tbh.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Trump will probably hit NK as soon as China gives the green light and says that NK is no longer under their protection tbh.

Yes, I can see that on the cards, I always thought George Bush jnr. was trigger happy but Trump makes him look like the milky bar kid in comparison.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...e-minister/amp

Also not only will he let everyone and his cat in he will invite them in and I doubt he will be too fastidious about security checks - he would be more concerned about their human rights!

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Yes, I can see that on the cards, I always thought George Bush jnr. was trigger happy but Trump makes him look like the milky bar kid in comparison.

I always felt (and even moreso now considering some of what he's said since leaving office) that Bush was little more than a figurehead. There are always people behind the scenes pulling the strings but I think Bush was essentially pretty much never acting on his own decisions, it was all driven by advisors. Trump is increasingly looking like a loose cannon.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Trump will probably hit NK as soon as China gives the green light and says that NK is no longer under their protection tbh.

I wonder if China would rather go in themselves and sort Kim Jong out than let America go in and increase their sphere of influence in the area.

[Kizzy]

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Are we really having a conversation about who nukes who first in a thread having a go about Jeremy Corbyn possibly welcoming terrorist attacks?

yes or would you rather do what labour always do, duck the tough questions

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I always felt (and even moreso now considering some of what he's said since leaving office) that Bush was little more than a figurehead. There are always people behind the scenes pulling the strings but I think Bush was essentially pretty much never acting on his own decisions, it was all driven by advisors. Trump is increasingly looking like a loose cannon.

Yes, he certainly thinks he can do and say what he wants..hopefully those behind him can keep control.

[Kizzy]

Yes that's what people want in the leader of the free world someone who needs babysitting :/