Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-12-2017, 02:35 PM #1
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default Snowflakes - mental problems

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-young-people/

Apparently being called snowflakes damages the health of young people.

Maybe some suitable medicine would be some advice that it isn’t Advisable to dish it out if you can’t take it.

Problem solved.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 02:42 PM #2
Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Default

I think the problem is genuinely that these people feel the need to insert their opinions into everything, but take anyone also asserting their own opinion as some kind of personal attack. So basically..I have a right to speak, but noone can answer back. If you do you are a big meanie

And sorry but 'snowflake' is entirely accurate for many of todays youth (and older people, but mainly youth)
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
always cook meals, i did have chinese takeaways the year before the corona **** happened
but now not into takeaways anymore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
Did you get them delivered from Wuhan?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
I would just like to take a second to congratulate Vicky, for creating the first Tibb post that needed chapters and a bibliography.

Last edited by Vicky.; 06-12-2017 at 02:49 PM.
Vicky. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 02:49 PM #3
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. View Post

And sorry but 'snowflake' is entirely accurate for many of todays youth (and older people, but mainly youth)
This comes back to the age-old issue, though: "Today's Youth" didn't spring up out of the ground like new potatoes. That only happens in Ireland. In the real world, each generation is raised by the last... and everything is a progression. Todays "Snowflakes" are a direct result of the expectations and entitlements of the post-war generations.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 02:52 PM #4
Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Default

I don't think its how they were raised. I think its how Universities and such have gone in recent times. Yes some of the entitlement may come from how they were raised..but it seems to be once they hit Uni that they 'become' special snowflakes who cannot be criticized. I find the idea of 'safe spaces' in Unis to be ridiculous. Uni is meant to be where you learn about how the real world is, not where you cocoon yourself in among like minded people and thus never be criticized ever. Echo chambers are not good, and should not be encouraged.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
always cook meals, i did have chinese takeaways the year before the corona **** happened
but now not into takeaways anymore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
Did you get them delivered from Wuhan?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
I would just like to take a second to congratulate Vicky, for creating the first Tibb post that needed chapters and a bibliography.
Vicky. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 02:53 PM #5
Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Default

My brother is currently at Uni and says its bloody ridiculous how so many behave. 'Oppression olympics' is used fairly often when he is ranting about stuff. I remember Unis to be somewhere where your opinions were regularly challenged, and this is good no? Now its...omg X has an opinion that I disagree with 'bigot!' *cry* 'where is my safe space'
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
always cook meals, i did have chinese takeaways the year before the corona **** happened
but now not into takeaways anymore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
Did you get them delivered from Wuhan?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
I would just like to take a second to congratulate Vicky, for creating the first Tibb post that needed chapters and a bibliography.

Last edited by Vicky.; 06-12-2017 at 02:54 PM.
Vicky. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 02:57 PM #6
Shaun's Avatar
Shaun Shaun is offline
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 106,245

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
RPDR UK 2: Tayce


Shaun Shaun is offline
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 106,245

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
RPDR UK 2: Tayce


Default

Any other wild generalisations Vicky
__________________
Spoiler:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saph View Post
You're giving me a million reasons about a million reasons

Shaun is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:01 PM #7
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

I would say it's not an affliction of 'snowflakes' but those also who use those terms to describe others.

Have you tried to counter an opinion on anyone on an issue and met a wall of 'snowflake'! 'unpartriotic'! ' PC brigade'! ' leftie'!

No wonder it drives people mad, those terms are specifically designed to shut down debate.
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:02 PM #8
Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carole of the Bells View Post
Any other wild generalisations Vicky
No thats all for today

Obviously not all uni students are like that...indeed, my brother is not, nor are many of his friends who find it all just stupid. But apparently it is a significant minority (and a very loud group)
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
always cook meals, i did have chinese takeaways the year before the corona **** happened
but now not into takeaways anymore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
Did you get them delivered from Wuhan?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
I would just like to take a second to congratulate Vicky, for creating the first Tibb post that needed chapters and a bibliography.

Last edited by Vicky.; 06-12-2017 at 03:03 PM.
Vicky. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:04 PM #9
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Santa View Post
This comes back to the age-old issue, though: "Today's Youth" didn't spring up out of the ground like new potatoes. That only happens in Ireland. In the real world, each generation is raised by the last... and everything is a progression. Todays "Snowflakes" are a direct result of the expectations and entitlements of the post-war generations.
I think that’s a cop-out. It sounds like the old adage blame the mother whenever a child has problems.

Peer pressure is huge and once kids get to a certain age often takes over from parental influence. Youngsters are renowned for following the crowd and taking on board the opinions of others around them as fitting in is so important at that age. I think they should be allowed and expected to take responibility for their own decisions and actions, including any consequences.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:08 PM #10
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christmas treeza View Post
I would say it's not an affliction of 'snowflakes' but those also who use those terms to describe others.

Have you tried to counter an opinion on anyone on an issue and met a wall of 'snowflake'! 'unpartriotic'! ' PC brigade'! ' leftie'!

No wonder it drives people mad, those terms are specifically designed to shut down debate.
Have you ever tried to counter an opinion on anyone on an issue and met a wall of ‘racist, bigot, ignorant’. It works exactly he same way. No wonder it drives people mad, as those terms are specifically designed to shut down debate.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:11 PM #11
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. View Post
No thats all for today

Obviously not all uni students are like that...indeed, my brother is not, nor are many of his friends who find it all just stupid. But apparently it is a significant minority (and a very loud group)
Too damn loud - then they complain and cry when there is some comeback from that.

Maybe their youth and nativity is all too apparent by how immaturely they deal with criticism and different opinions and maybe until they can handle it they should keep their opinions to themselves. Just a thought.

Last edited by Brillopad; 06-12-2017 at 03:12 PM.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:14 PM #12
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
Too damn loud - then they complain and cry when there is some comeback from that.

Maybe their youth and nativity is all too apparent by how immaturely they deal with criticism and maybe until they can handle it they should keep their opinions to themselves. Just a thought.
Maybe your old age and senility is all to apparent by how rigidly they deal with criticism and maybe they can't handle it they should keep their opinions to themselves. Just a thought
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:20 PM #13
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
Have you ever tried to counter an opinion on anyone on an issue and met a wall of ‘racist, bigot, ignorant’. It works exactly he same way. No wonder it drives people mad, as those terms are specifically designed to shut down debate.
Yes except those accusations have a meaning ... if you make a statement that can be described as racist then that is a direct response, it has meaning.

If I were to be asked what is a racist sentence I could give you one... I could not give you a 'left' sentence... as it makes no sense whatsoever...look,

'I think there should be better provisions for schools!'

See, that's an example of left but there is no issue with that statement is there?
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:23 PM #14
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,056
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,056
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-young-people/

Apparently being called snowflakes damages the health of young people.

Maybe some suitable medicine would be some advice that it isn’t Advisable to dish it out if you can’t take it.

Problem solved.


They must Laugh it off...................


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake

Last edited by arista; 06-12-2017 at 03:36 PM.
arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:27 PM #15
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christmas treeza View Post
Yes except those accusations have a meaning ... if you make a statement that can be described as racist then that is a direct response, it has meaning.

If I were to be asked what is a racist sentence I could give you one... I could not give you a 'left' sentence... as it makes no sense whatsoever...look,

'I think there should be better provisions for schools!'

See, that's an example of left but there is no issue with that statement is there?
Left would be socialist, anticapitalist, someone who sometimes defends the undefendable or fails to allow people the dignity of taking responsibility for their own actions. Left and right have many meanings often based on opinion and interpretation. Not difficult.
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:31 PM #16
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,881
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,881
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
Left would be socialist, anticapitalist, someone who sometimes defends the undefendable or fails to allow people the dignity of taking responsibility for their own actions. Left and right have many meanings often based on opinion and interpretation. Not difficult.
__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:40 PM #17
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christmas treeza View Post
Maybe your old age and senility is all to apparent by how rigidly they deal with criticism and maybe they can't handle it they should keep their opinions to themselves. Just a thought
There is a lot to be said for life experience - you should understand that,
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:41 PM #18
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,852

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,852

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky. View Post
I don't think its how they were raised. I think its how Universities and such have gone in recent times. Yes some of the entitlement may come from how they were raised..but it seems to be once they hit Uni that they 'become' special snowflakes who cannot be criticized. I find the idea of 'safe spaces' in Unis to be ridiculous. Uni is meant to be where you learn about how the real world is, not where you cocoon yourself in among like minded people and thus never be criticized ever. Echo chambers are not good, and should not be encouraged.
In a nutshell. Who could argue with that?
jet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:48 PM #19
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
There is a lot to be said for life experience - you should understand that,
No there isn't... It depends on many factors being old does not make you wise, being wise makes you wise, being educated makes you wise.... if that means that young educated wise people are annoying old, ignorant uneducated people then I'm sorry they have that right.
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 03:55 PM #20
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christmas treeza View Post
No there isn't... It depends on many factors being old does not make you wise, being wise makes you wise, being educated makes you wise.... if that means that young educated wise people are annoying old, ignorant uneducated people then I'm sorry they have that right.
Who are you calling uneducated? I went to uni is that a clue?
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 04:08 PM #21
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,852

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,852

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christmas treeza View Post
No there isn't... It depends on many factors being old does not make you wise, being wise makes you wise, being educated makes you wise.... if that means that young educated wise people are annoying old, ignorant uneducated people then I'm sorry they have that right.
Being educated doesn't make you wise, it makes you informed. It's what you do with that information and how you interpret it that matters...and
there is no substitute for life experience, you have a lot to learn Kizzy.
jet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 04:13 PM #22
Oliver_W's Avatar
Oliver_W Oliver_W is online now
POW! BLAM!
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 15,933

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is online now
POW! BLAM!
Oliver_W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 15,933

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Calling people "snowflakes" doesn't achieve anything, it's just as daft as when they call everyone racist/sexist/whatever whilst refusing to listen to opposing views. Most people grow out of being what you might call a "snowflake" when they get a job and general responsibilities, which is why I find it concerning to see 30/40+ year old SJWs...
__________________


Oliver_W is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 04:34 PM #23
Withano's Avatar
Withano Withano is offline
Withano
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Withano Withano is offline
Withano
Withano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-young-people/

Apparently being called snowflakes damages the health of young people.

Maybe some suitable medicine would be some advice that it isn’t Advisable to dish it out if you can’t take it.

Problem solved.
Being snowflakey about a snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake is the snowflakiest thing I've ever seen in my life. Kudos Brillo.
__________________
Withano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 04:44 PM #24
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Brillopad Brillopad is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Withano View Post
Being snowflakey about a snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake is the snowflakiest thing I've ever seen in my life. Kudos Brillo.
Maybe getting snowflakey about me apparently getting snowflakey about a snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake would Trump it. Even better would be the actual snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake taking some responsibility I say!
Brillopad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-12-2017, 04:58 PM #25
Withano's Avatar
Withano Withano is offline
Withano
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Withano Withano is offline
Withano
Withano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,727

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brillopad View Post
Maybe getting snowflakey about me apparently getting snowflakey about a snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake would Trump it. Even better would be the actual snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake taking some responsibility I say!
I'm not sure anybody is following your definition of snowflake anymore. You can't just say it when someone responds to you in a pretty unenthused and calm manner, snowflake.
__________________
Withano is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
mental, problems, snowflakes

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:42 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts