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Old Today, 10:02 AM #1
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Default Conservatives need to replace Kemi

She is not good in interviews
A previous aide said she hates them.


They should have checked that before putting her in place




Give Jenrick a go.


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Changing the Tory leader would be like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Changing the Tory leader would be like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Yes, well put,


but give it a try....

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Yes but not with either Jenrick or Braverman.
Because really Badenoch is just more thinking like them.
Running after Farage's Reform ( UKIP MK3) Party in the main.
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It's too early but there needs to be some improvement soon

It's not even that she's unpopular, she's just irrelevant
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It's too early but there needs to be some improvement soon

It's not even that she's unpopular, she's just irrelevant
I know you like Jenrick MTVN.
I rarely watch Kuenssberg on Sundays but she had Justine Greening on, who I didn't dislike much during her period prominent in the Conservative party.
However she said more or less, the trying to emulate Farage and Reform wasn't working under Badenoch.

Who do you think could even now start to turn this around for your Party.
Plus be able to pull back the support already lost to Reform.

As I said, I know you like Jenrick but who other than him, who would you really look to, if you had that choice.

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I know you like Jenrick MTVN.
I rarely watch Kuenssberg on Sundays but she had Justine Greening on, who I didn't dislike much during her period prominent in the Conservative party.
However she said more or less, the trying to emulate Farage and Reform wasn't working under Badenoch.

Who do you think could even now start to turn this around for your Party.
Plus be able to pull back the support already lost to Reform.

As I said, I know you like Jenrick but who other than him, who would you really look to, if you had that choice.
I actually wanted Kemi at the time because I thought Jenrick was a bit arrogant and ungenuine. I also thought it would be quite powerful for the Conservative party to have a black woman as leader. Since then she's been a bit disappointing though whereas Jenrick is the only one who has landed blows on Starmer with his campaign against two tier justice.

Reality is the options are very limited and it'd be between Jenrick and Cleverly I think. Feels like the Tories are very squeezed as well because they're hemorrhaging votes both sides to the Lib Dems and to Reform
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The problem is that all the Tory mps have had there time. They need new faces with new ideas. The tories got their messaging wrong on immigration. No one can solve it legally but they never explained it. Once you get past the boris 3 word slogans, there is really nothing left and people seem not to be engaged enough to understand nuance these days
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It's too early but there needs to be some improvement soon

It's not even that she's unpopular, she's just irrelevant

Yes
Replace her faster.

It can be done
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I actually wanted Kemi at the time because I thought Jenrick was a bit arrogant and ungenuine. I also thought it would be quite powerful for the Conservative party to have a black woman as leader. Since then she's been a bit disappointing though whereas Jenrick is the only one who has landed blows on Starmer with his campaign against two tier justice.

Reality is the options are very limited and it'd be between Jenrick and Cleverly I think. Feels like the Tories are very squeezed as well because they're hemorrhaging votes both sides to the Lib Dems and to Reform
But now
Kemi is arrogant
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After Jenrick and Cleverly the favourites for next leader aren't even Tory MPs which says it all - Boris and Farage. I think most members would have Boris back in a heartbeat but there's no easy route back to parliament for him

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After Jenrick and Cleverly the favourites for next leader aren't even Tory MPs which says it all - Boris and Farage. I think most members would have Boris back in a heartbeat but there's no easy route back to parliament for him
Of Course, they would like Boris back
but he is no longer a legit MP
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Of Course, they would like Boris back
but he is no longer a legit MP

He’s probably just biding his time

He will be back
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He’s probably just biding his time

He will be back
As an Advisor
not a MP
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