[arista]

Fuming: French fishermen use burning tyres
to block entry to the port of Boulogne-sur-Mer
in protest against fishing quotas


We need to get out of this €uro Laws mess.


Lorries on the M20 near Ashford in Kent,
as Operation Stack is enforced as French fishermen strike
outside the port of Calais in France



"typical french style! They want to sell their wines to other countries, but they dont want other countries to sell their fish to france. I think we should retaliate and stop buying french goods.
- Aussie Sheila, Sydney, 15/4/20"


A great post by a Good Lady
from Down Under.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...-blockade.html




Sign Of The Times.

[Captain.Remy]

'Typical French style' is true: we kinda love to make strikes, it's in our nature and it's being accepted by everyone.
The story is more complicated than that, it's deeper. Fishermen have always been living in poverty, financial crisis or not. They couldn't live on a daily basis with what they caught and how much they sell the fishes. They already asked for a bigger quota, they got it last year: +30%.
For them, it was enough last year but not anymore due to the crisis: they raise the fishes price, no one is buying so they ask to fish more and make the fishes cheaper (that's logic).
However, the government said they won't raise the quotas but will give the fishermen a financial aid, to keep them warm.
Obviously they refused and the strike began. So both parts are right but they are wrong too. Same story over and over again.

To respond to Sheila, it's not about wine and fishes, the issue has always been there and stopping importations from France is stupid, it will not solve the issue.
(And why is it an Australian women complaining when obviously Australia is on the other part of the world and the ports are in Northern France ? Funny lol)

Arista, it's your turn lol

[Harry!]

In Thiland they are having problems
British people could be at risk
Stay in our own country
But we would have to deal with the
New Labour Depression

[ange7]

lol are Harry and arista the same person?... "New Labour Depression"?

Remy that aussie was a tourist like the rest. Her point is fair.. a lot of French markets are blocked to the rest of the world by tarrifs... how would the French like it if the rest of the world were equally as protectionist.
re fisherman ... fishing more would rape the fish stocks meaning that in 2 or 3 years they're won't be enough fish around to keep the fish population going. That's the whole point of the international quota system... it's not about the government being mean to fisherman it's about nations agreeing to NOT over fish so that there will be enough to reproduce and re stock the population.

re strike culture. Remy explain the importance of strikes and demonstration to Arista. It's an important part of a democracy that people get out march about what they believe in. Greece is the same. Arista seems to think that some tourists being inconvenienced is more important than people's livelihoods.

[Harry!]

ange7 him and I are not the same person

[ange7]

Originally posted by Harry.
ange7 him and I are not the same person

yeah I know...was kidding dude...but you "arista" better than arista.

[Harry!]

Originally posted by ange7

yeah I know...was kidding dude...but you "arista" better than arista.

?????

[ange7]

Originally posted by Harry.

?????

I'm being rude to you :P

[arista]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
'Typical French style' is true: we kinda love to make strikes, it's in our nature and it's being accepted by everyone.
The story is more complicated than that, it's deeper. Fishermen have always been living in poverty, financial crisis or not. They couldn't live on a daily basis with what they caught and how much they sell the fishes. They already asked for a bigger quota, they got it last year: +30%.
For them, it was enough last year but not anymore due to the crisis: they raise the fishes price, no one is buying so they ask to fish more and make the fishes cheaper (that's logic).
However, the government said they won't raise the quotas but will give the fishermen a financial aid, to keep them warm.
Obviously they refused and the strike began. So both parts are right but they are wrong too. Same story over and over again.

To respond to Sheila, it's not about wine and fishes, the issue has always been there and stopping importations from France is stupid, it will not solve the issue.
(And why is it an Australian women complaining when obviously Australia is on the other part of the world and the ports are in Northern France ? Funny lol)

Arista, it's your turn lol

The Frogs mess up British Holiday Folks
and miles of Lorrys
it is no wonder the Brits and Aussies (Not dear Ange , though)
Hate the Stinking French.


Sign Of The Times.

[Harry!]

Originally posted by ange7

I'm being rude to you :P

Ok lets get back on topic

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : ange7
lol are Harry and arista the same person?... "New Labour Depression"?

Remy that aussie was a tourist like the rest. Her point is fair.. a lot of French markets are blocked to the rest of the world by tarrifs... how would the French like it if the rest of the world were equally as protectionist.
re fisherman ... fishing more would rape the fish stocks meaning that in 2 or 3 years they're won't be enough fish around to keep the fish population going. That's the whole point of the international quota system... it's not about the government being mean to fisherman it's about nations agreeing to NOT over fish so that there will be enough to reproduce and re stock the population.

re strike culture. Remy explain the importance of strikes and demonstration to Arista. It's an important part of a democracy that people get out march about what they believe in. Greece is the same. Arista seems to think that some tourists being inconvenienced is more important than people's livelihoods.

It's not about being protectionist, you know France is not. It's a simple strike and it's the only way fishermen have found to get their point across. Like I said, both parts are wrong and both are right in a way so I'm not defending anyone.

[ILoveTRW]

Will you please just put Sign of the times in your sig

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : arista

The Frogs mess up British Holiday Folks
and miles of Lorrys
it is no wonder the Brits and Aussies (Not dear Ange , though)
Hate the Stinking French.


Sign Of The Times.

Watch out your language please. Just because I don't want to live there, doesn't mean I like French people being insulted as 'frogs' and 'stinking French'. I'm sure you wouldn't like me to say 'roast beefs' or 'stinking gingers' ?

Arista, I guess you don't understand the point of a strike because it's less common in UK. Here, we're used to it and we work it well. I'm not saying it's always the best solution, but it proved to be working.
And good for you if you hate us, you've always had something against France and I can't help it, but at least, be nice, no need to insult. It won't get your point across.

[arista]

Originally posted by ILoveMoney
Will you please just put Sign of the times in your sig

No as some times it is

Life In The City

or even


Life In The Fast Lane.



Get a Gun and Blow me Away
is your best bet honey.

[arista]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Watch out your language please. Just because I don't want to live there, doesn't mean I like French people being insulted as 'frogs' and 'stinking French'. I'm sure you wouldn't like me to say 'roast beefs' or 'stinking gingers' ?

Arista, I guess you don't understand the point of a strike because it's less common in UK. Here, we're used to it and we work it well. I'm not saying it's always the best solution, but it proved to be working.
And good for you if you hate us, you've always had something against France and I can't help it, but at least, be nice, no need to insult. It won't get your point across.

I like Beef and Stinking Gingers



Get Sarkozy down there and Sack them all
lets have a War.

[ange7]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

It's not about being protectionist, you know France is not. It's a simple strike and it's the only way fishermen have found to get their point across. Like I said, both parts are wrong and both are right in a way so I'm not defending anyone.

sorry dude... subsidising food production workers, whether they are farmers or fisherman is a form of protectionism. I'm not saying all protectionism is wrong and I'm clueless about whether these farmers are or not but the aussie tourist had a point. Having said that if she knew what was at stake she wouldn't moan about losing a day of her holidays.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista

The Frogs mess up British Holiday Folks
and miles of Lorrys
it is no wonder the Brits and Aussies (Not dear Ange , though)
Hate the Stinking French.


Sign Of The Times.

"'frogs' and 'stinking French'"
lol what did you say in the robin hood thread about not being a racist. mahahaha ... and you hate "gingers" too. lol you must be some kind of perfect ubermensch.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : arista

I like Beef and Stinking Gingers



Get Sarkozy down there and Sack them all
lets have a War.

Has anyone ever told you that humour doesn't fit on you ?

We don't have 'a war', that shows how bad you know how strikes are going there. Well, some can get nasty but not all of them. Sarkozy will talk to them in a few days if the situation is still stuck. He knows how to work it. Like he said 'In France, when a strike is going, no one notices it' IN YOUR FACE SOCIALISTS !

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : ange7
sorry dude... subsidising food production workers, whether they are farmers or fisherman is a form of protectionism. I'm not saying all protectionism is wrong and I'm clueless about whether these farmers are or not but the aussie tourist had a point. Having said that if she knew what was at stake she would moan about losing a day of her holidays.

The European Union subsidises food production workers, not France. There is a huge difference there. 80% of the European budget is aimed at the food production workers. So yet the debate has changed.

[ange7]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

The European Union subsidises food production workers, not France. There is a huge difference there. 80% of the European budget is aimed at the food production workers. So yet the debate has changed.

dude nitpicking...
when I say France ... read EU. Goes without saying :P ... does the aussie tourist have a point or not? If the rest of the world were as protectionist as the EU are you'd be screwed. That was her point. Disagree with her if you like but EU subsidies are the always a point of argument at every world economic forum.African's and african markets are the real losers due to these policies.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : ange7
dude nitpicking...
when I say France ... read EU. Goes without saying :P ... does the aussie tourist have a point or not? If the rest of the world were as protectionist as the EU are you'd be screwed. That was her point. Disagree with her if you like but EU subsidies are the always a point of argument at every world economic forum.African's and african markets are the real losers due to these policies.

I am against Europe and everything it involves so to me, France is France. Not EU.

If we're talking about EU then I agree, she has a fair point. However, EU isn't illegal when doing this, they're not that protectionists to get sanctions from the WTO.
I also agree that it's always the same issue over and over again and it won't be solved in a while...knowing the current economical situation.

[arista]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Has anyone ever told you that humour doesn't fit on you ?

We don't have 'a war', that shows how bad you know how strikes are going there. Well, some can get nasty but not all of them. Sarkozy will talk to them in a few days if the situation is still stuck. He knows how to work it. Like he said 'In France, when a strike is going, no one notices it' IN YOUR FACE SOCIALISTS !

But France is having a Thatcher Type Revolution
So Sarkozy needs to break the Strikers Bang On Hard.
Blood and all.

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7

"'frogs' and 'stinking French'"
lol what did you say in the robin hood thread about not being a racist. mahahaha ... and you hate "gingers" too. lol you must be some kind of perfect ubermensch.

Stop being such a PC Git
it is better to speak your mind.
Thats what they do Down Under .

[arista]

The Stinking French Strikers
have been given a Court Order by a Bloody French Judge
so lift that Blockade or lock the buggers up.




Life In The City.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : arista

But France is having a Thatcher Type Revolution
So Sarkozy needs to break the Strikers Bang On Hard.
Blood and all.

You do know France isn't like Thailand or North Korea right ? Free country for all.

Stop being such a PC Git
it is better to speak your mind.
Thats what they do Down Under .

I'm against PC too, it's pointless but that doesn't involve insulting a nation or a country. I respect yours, respect mine. Fair enough.