Freddie and Bea Think Noirin/Siavash is a Fake Relationship!

[AhmedFan2004]

Watched this on Live Feed last night.

They both discussed how it all came out of the blue and there's no chemistry between them. Bea believes it's just Noirin's way of trying to gain strength in numbers and get the attention back on her, since she felt lonely and vulnerable when Bea arrived in the house.

Bea being friends with Freddie, who is in turn friends with Siavash and Marcus - It was imperative for Noirin to sink her teeth into the dynamic. According to Bea, Noirin had to get on well with her to assimilate in the new group.

Freddie says that after a convo with Siavash in the morning, he left intrigued and thought that Siavash was non-chalant and calculated about the whole relationship; not a 'love-stricken' or emotional perspective. It was rather revealing in Freddie's opinion; Siavash is after mag deals/money, perhaps.

They both discussed this furthermore in the kitchen, talked about the implications of them doing it for magazine deals and money, whether it means they're dishonest and bad, or it's their own thing, etc. Neither liked the idea, seeing it as sneaky and fake. It didn't sit well, especially with Freddie.

To be seen on the HL Show tonight.

[reallynow]

He needs to worry about his own with Bea I think LOL

[Kore]

Siavash thinks its real. Noirin knows its fake cos she susing Siavash like she has other guys. She guna throw him in the trash when she dont need him no more.

[arsenalforever]

He's right:laugh:

siavash loves her more then Noirin does

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Kore
Siavash thinks its real. Noirin knows its fake cos she susing Siavash like she has other guys. She guna throw him in the trash when she dont need him no more.
Freddie and Bea seem to think that Siavash is wanting the mag deals/money, and maybe Noirin is too, or that Noirin is just confused and messed up in the head. They said that if both are scammers, then at least they are on the same path.

I don't think either particularly like each other, I do think it's for show.

[Jordan.]

They wont be together on the outside

[Stephanie]

Originally posted by Kore
Siavash thinks its real. Noirin knows its fake cos she susing Siavash like she has other guys. She guna throw him in the trash when she dont need him no more.

[yousoboo!]

Sounds like Bea is right again.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by arsenalforever
He's right:laugh:

siavash loves her more then Noirin does
I think you mis-read, anyway I edited my initial post to make it clearer. Freddie thinks that Siavash doesn't like Noirin and just wants the after-glory.

If anything, they were deliberating on what Noirin's agenda was. Mutual scamming, or just weird and confused whilst Siavash was calculating the fame.

Both think they are both fakers though, in terms of their gut instincts.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by arsenalforever
He's right:laugh:

siavash loves her more then Noirin does
I think you mis-read, anyway I edited my initial post to make it clearer. Freddie thinks that Siavash doesn't like Noirin and just wants the after-glory.

If anything, they were deliberating on what Noirin's agenda was. Mutual scamming, or just weird and confused whilst Siavash was calculating the fame.

Both think they are both fakers though, in terms of their gut instincts.

Damn got half of it wrong but they all gossip and Siavash had a GF which has sit uneasy with some

you can see it been a fake romance to them

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by reallynow
He needs to worry about his own with Bea I think LOL
Well they had a fall out because Bea said Freddie was sleazy and annoying, so that's off, lol ...

[setanta]

I'm not happy with Freddie aligning himself sto such a **** stirrer but I do feel that Freddie analyses everything now, and I'm wondering if he's always been this way or if it's happened as a result of all the bullying: that he had to fight back that time and unfortunately they've created a monster. I'm not happy at all with him at the mo...... I worry that he's just very, very competitive.

[kisywisy]

i started a thread on it straight after they said it and noone really cared coz it implied that noirin may not be the only 'baddie'

then peoples said that freddie's wrong and he's not thinking straight coz he had a cry on last night's HL.

i just hope they show the actual conversation between him and siavash as well as him and bea

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by setanta
I'm not happy with Freddie aligning himself sto such a **** stirrer but I do feel that Freddie analyses everything now, and I'm wondering if he's always been this way or if it's happened as a result of all the bullying: that he had to fight back that time and unfortunately they've created a monster. I'm not happy at all with him at the mo...... I worry that he's just very, very competitive.

he's ALWAYS analysed everything

him and marcus would sit and talk about it from the start

[setanta]

Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by setanta
I'm not happy with Freddie aligning himself sto such a **** stirrer but I do feel that Freddie analyses everything now, and I'm wondering if he's always been this way or if it's happened as a result of all the bullying: that he had to fight back that time and unfortunately they've created a monster. I'm not happy at all with him at the mo...... I worry that he's just very, very competitive.

he's ALWAYS analysed everything

him and marcus would sit and talk about it from the start

Yes, I know, that's what I'm saying. But I think that was in reaction to all the bullying and stuff. I honestly think if it wasn't for the whole bullying fiasco he wouldn't be half as popular. Still, he deserves to win it.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by reallynow
He needs to worry about his own with Bea I think LOL
Well they had a fall out because Bea said Freddie was sleazy and annoying, so that's off, lol ...

but they've made up now

i don't think there will be a romance, but they have stimulating conversations and enjoy each other's company

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by kisywisy
i started a thread on it straight after they said it and noone really cared coz it implied that noirin may not be the only 'baddie'

then peoples said that freddie's wrong and he's not thinking straight coz he had a cry on last night's HL.

i just hope they show the actual conversation between him and siavash as well as him and bea

noirin is a fake kisywisy

she wasn't interested in talking to Siavash about the reltionship until Charlie and Rod showed interest


then it was all me me me

siavash has a Gf and dunping her for Norin does come across like mag deals reltionship

[Parmy]

They both waited for the cameras to swivel both had the appropriate clothing on, and both ..well they both a pair of clowns in my opinion....


And what happened to Freddies stance on bitching about people he took in week two.

Is it not bitching when it's freddie and bea, are thier convos above bitching because they use big words and think thier point of view is correct..

pair of hypocrites..

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by reallynow
He needs to worry about his own with Bea I think LOL
Well they had a fall out because Bea said Freddie was sleazy and annoying, so that's off, lol ...

but they've made up now

i don't think there will be a romance, but they have stimulating conversations and enjoy each other's company

she fancies siavash

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by beso
They both waited for the cameras to swivel both had the appropriate clothing on, and both ..well they both a pair of clowns in my opinion....


And what happened to Freddies stance on bitching about people he took in week two.

Is it not bitching when it's freddie and bea, are thier convos above bitching because they use big words and think thier point of view is correct..

pair of hypocrites..

Don't be silly mate

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by kisywisy
i started a thread on it straight after they said it and noone really cared coz it implied that noirin may not be the only 'baddie'

then peoples said that freddie's wrong and he's not thinking straight coz he had a cry on last night's HL.

i just hope they show the actual conversation between him and siavash as well as him and bea
I was surprised it wasn't already up, hence I made the thread.

Obviously Freddie noticed something peculiar after talking to Siavash.

It's hard to comment, there's no Live Feed in the day so we only see snippets of what goes on between Noirin and Siavash.

Noirin definitely doesn't fancy Siavash. That's what I think, lol. For definite.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by setanta
I'm not happy with Freddie aligning himself sto such a **** stirrer but I do feel that Freddie analyses everything now, and I'm wondering if he's always been this way or if it's happened as a result of all the bullying: that he had to fight back that time and unfortunately they've created a monster. I'm not happy at all with him at the mo...... I worry that he's just very, very competitive.

he's ALWAYS analysed everything

him and marcus would sit and talk about it from the start

Yes, I know, that's what I'm saying. But I think that was in reaction to all the bullying and stuff. I honestly think if it wasn't for the whole bullying fiasco he wouldn't be half as popular. Still, he deserves to win it.

i don't know. i mean, he's not being bullied anymore and hasn't been for a while. he's still analysing. he might be like this normally or he could still be on the defensive

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by kisywisy
i started a thread on it straight after they said it and noone really cared coz it implied that noirin may not be the only 'baddie'

then peoples said that freddie's wrong and he's not thinking straight coz he had a cry on last night's HL.

i just hope they show the actual conversation between him and siavash as well as him and bea
I was surprised it wasn't already up, hence I made the thread.

Obviously Freddie noticed something peculiar after talking to Siavash.

It's hard to comment, there's no Live Feed in the day so we only see snippets of what goes on between Noirin and Siavash.

Noirin definitely doesn't fancy Siavash. That's what I think, lol. For definite.

its bloody obvious she doesn't she fancied Tom and said so publicly

Freddie see's a change in his friend and says so and Siavash has turned into a love sick Zombie

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by arsenalforever
she fancies siavash
No chance.

Tall, attractive, middle class, well spoken, blonde girls DO NOT fancy short, chubby, hairy, poorly spoken, foreign guys ... Siavash is so inarticulate!

She wants someone like Freddie, but taller and better looking. The same pedigree.

She wants a tall, hot, posh boy.

[setanta]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by arsenalforever
she fancies siavash
No chance.

Tall, attractive, middle class, well spoken blonde girls DO NOT fancy short, chubby, hairy, poorly spoken foreign guys ...

She wants someone like Freddie, but taller and better looking.

She wants a tall, hot, posh boy.

She never fancied Siavash... never in a million years. It's so obvious from every little gesture. Can hardly look him in the eyes half the time.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by setanta
I'm not happy with Freddie aligning himself sto such a **** stirrer but I do feel that Freddie analyses everything now, and I'm wondering if he's always been this way or if it's happened as a result of all the bullying: that he had to fight back that time and unfortunately they've created a monster. I'm not happy at all with him at the mo...... I worry that he's just very, very competitive.

he's ALWAYS analysed everything

him and marcus would sit and talk about it from the start

Yes, I know, that's what I'm saying. But I think that was in reaction to all the bullying and stuff. I honestly think if it wasn't for the whole bullying fiasco he wouldn't be half as popular. Still, he deserves to win it.

i don't know. i mean, he's not being bullied anymore and hasn't been for a while. he's still analysing. he might be like this normally or he could still be on the defensive

Making a big deal out of nothing:rolleyes:

Nit picking once again and siavash has made himself look a plonker for folllowing Noirin and cheating on his Gf

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by beso
They both waited for the cameras to swivel both had the appropriate clothing on, and both ..well they both a pair of clowns in my opinion....


And what happened to Freddies stance on bitching about people he took in week two.

Is it not bitching when it's freddie and bea, are thier convos above bitching because they use big words and think thier point of view is correct..

pair of hypocrites..

nah, it actually looked like it was really hard for freddie to say it. he even said that he didn't want to actually say the words as that means his fears about the situation would be out in the open (to the public)

i don't see wht you've called bea a hypocrite. she might talk throught her thoughts with people, but she has always spoken to the hm she's been talking about once she's got it clear in her head

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by beso
They both waited for the cameras to swivel both had the appropriate clothing on, and both ..well they both a pair of clowns in my opinion....


And what happened to Freddies stance on bitching about people he took in week two.

Is it not bitching when it's freddie and bea, are thier convos above bitching because they use big words and think thier point of view is correct..

pair of hypocrites..

nah, it actually looked like it was really hard for freddie to say it. he even said that he didn't want to actually say the words as that means his fears about the situation would be out in the open (to the public)

i don't see wht you've called bea a hypocrite. she might talk throught her thoughts with people, but she has always spoken to the hm she's been talking about once she's got it clear in her head

she's stirrering the pot Kisywisy and she wants to destroy anything

i think she's the most untrustworthy one

[Parmy]

Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by beso
They both waited for the cameras to swivel both had the appropriate clothing on, and both ..well they both a pair of clowns in my opinion....


And what happened to Freddies stance on bitching about people he took in week two.

Is it not bitching when it's freddie and bea, are thier convos above bitching because they use big words and think thier point of view is correct..

pair of hypocrites..

nah, it actually looked like it was really hard for freddie to say it. he even said that he didn't want to actually say the words as that means his fears about the situation would be out in the open (to the public)

i don't see wht you've called bea a hypocrite. she might talk throught her thoughts with people, but she has always spoken to the hm she's been talking about once she's got it clear in her head


Lol...90 percent of beas and freddies convos are about the other housemates....siavash, noirin, lisa, marcus...nah, they don't talk about people behind there backs at all...lmao..when they going to tell lisa what they think of her then !!!!


Hypocrites, the pair of them...

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

she's stirrering the pot Kisywisy and she wants to destroy anything

i think she's the most untrustworthy one
To be fair I actually think she's fairly legit and speaks her mind, isn't afraid to voice a conflicting opinion with Freddie, etc.

Look at the Marcus issue, the sleaze/annoyance issue, and telling Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom. She's not afraid to be herself and say what she thinks, even if Freddie doesn't like it, or if Siavash doesn't want to hear it.

She didn't have to tell Siavash in the garden, about Noirin fancying Tom. She even went further and told him that she suggested to Noirin to not do anything with Tom. That was pretty honest and open.

I mean, even little things, like telling Freddie about her hugs with Marcus. It's open and honest.

She does have a gameplan, and tactical nouse - But who doesn't in there?

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by arsenalforever

she's stirrering the pot Kisywisy and she wants to destroy anything

i think she's the most untrustworthy one
To be fair I actually think she's fairly legit and speaks her mind, isn't afraid to voice a conflicting opinion with Freddie, etc.

Look at the Marcus issue, the sleaze/annoyance issue, and telling Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom. She's not afraid to be herself and say what she thinks, even if Freddie doesn't like it, or if Siavash doesn't want to hear it.

She didn't have to tell Siavash in the garden, about Noirin fancying Tom. She even went further and told him that she suggested to Noirin to not do anything with Tom. That was pretty honest and open.

I mean, even little things, like telling Freddie about her hugs with Marcus. It's open and honest.

She does have a gameplan, and tactical nouse - But who doesn't in there?

but she's using a guy who's real thinking she's a mate but slags himbehind his abck

Not a good gameplayer but a nasty person

we both disagree on her tatics but i think she's a right nasty one

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by beso
Lol...90 percent of beas and freddies convos are about the other housemates....siavash, noirin, lisa, marcus...nah, they don't talk about people behind there backs at all...lmao..when they going to tell lisa what they think of her then !!!!


Hypocrites, the pair of them...
They do show more respect and tact though, and aren't afraid to tell the others about what they said, when it comes up.

Bea has no qualms even conflicting with Freddie, who is her best friend in the house. She's not afraid to voice her view and back it up.

She didn't need to mention Freddie's sleaze/annoyance, to tell Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom and her advice to Noirin about calling it off with Tom, and even to Freddie about her hugs with Marcus.

Freddie hasn't said anything particularly backstabbing. I mean he even brings up the issues, like he did with Tom, or in the past with Lisa.

There's being 2-faced, then there's discussions behind and also infront of those you talk about.

[Parmy]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by beso
Lol...90 percent of beas and freddies convos are about the other housemates....siavash, noirin, lisa, marcus...nah, they don't talk about people behind there backs at all...lmao..when they going to tell lisa what they think of her then !!!!


Hypocrites, the pair of them...
They do show more respect and tact though, and aren't afraid to tell the others about what they said, when it comes up.

Bea has no qualms even conflicting with Freddie, who is her best friend in the house. She's not afraid to voice her view and back it up.

She didn't need to mention Freddie's sleaze/annoyance, to tell Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom and her advice to Noirin about calling it off with Tom, and even to Freddie about her hugs with Marcus.

Freddie hasn't said anything particularly backstabbing. I mean he even brings up the issues, like he did with Tom, or in the past with Lisa.

There's being 2-faced, then there's discussions behind and also infront of those you talk about.


And theres deliberate **** stirring.:dance2:

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

but she's using a guy who's real thinking she's a mate but slags himbehind his abck

Not a good gameplayer but a nasty person

we both disagree on her tatics but i think she's a right nasty one
I don't think she slags him off behind his back, she told him or was directly made aware of what she thought. That's why he was upset and went in the diary room. It was no secret.

Like I said, if she wanted to play happy families and ride on Freddie, why say things like that, hug Marcus and then tell Freddie about it, tell Siavash about Noirin fancying Tom, etc?

She wouldn't have 1-1 conflicts with Marcus infront of Freddie, which made him upset, etc.

My mind is still open to change though, and I'm still not 100% sure.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by beso
And theres deliberate **** stirring.:dance2:
Well if it's just between the two of them, it's not really trouble-stirring. If they did gossip about it to other HMs and embellish the entire thing to make it seem as negative as possible, then yes.

But both do seem prepared to share fairly rational, unbiased views most of the time, and face the person in Q whenever the issue comes up.

You can talk about other people as long as you don't start spreading rumours that haven't been validated as true, and as long as you can be honest and open to the person(s) in Q when it comes up.

Like Marcus said. Be honest and true to yourself, then there's no need to worry when Q'd.