TIBB is full of hypocrites

[Tom]

Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

[Fangz]

She manipulated the situation to her advantage.

[IsleOfWeather]

simplistic and manipulative thread

I can see your attraction to her

[Tom]

Originally posted by Fangz
She manipulated the situation to her advantage.

She just has a flirty nature, nothing wrong with that. Similar to Sara last year.

[Mickey2009]

How do you know she said no? Your not watching 24 hours a day are you?
All her exs have made a video for her in Dublin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtAxF3BQFRg&feature=channel_page

[Tom]

Originally posted by Mickey2009
How do you know she said no? Your not watching 24 hours a day are you?
All her exs have made a video for her in Dublin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtAxF3BQFRg&feature=channel_page

Because I seen it on streaming

[Captain.Remy]

It's ok to have sexual tension between people but what is not right is playing with their minds and it's exactly what Noirin has done. That's why she's a manipulative slut. If at least that was entertaining, it would have been good but it's not and I feel sorry for Siavash now.

[Striptease]

Sophie has a a boyfriend (Kris) so she can **** whenever the **** she wants.
Siavash did not cheat, he said he was dating a girl for a month.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Striptease
Sophie has a a boyfriend (Kris) so she can **** whenever the **** she wants.
Siavash did not cheat, he said he was dating a girl for a month.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

Kris and Sophie were never actually an item :thumbs: Whether a day, a month, a year or a century Siavash still has a girlfriend and if he cheats then he's just as bad, if not worse than Noirin.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom
[quote]Originally posted by Fangz
She manipulated the situation to her advantage.

She just has a flirty nature, nothing wrong with that. Similar to Sara last year. [

there is nothing wrong with flirting whatsover, there is everything wrong with letting someone think you have feelings for them when you could have cleared that up before they dumped their GF

[Tom]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
It's ok to have sexual tension between people but what is not right is playing with their minds and it's exactly what Noirin has done. That's why she's a manipulative slut. If at least that was entertaining, it would have been good but it's not and I feel sorry for Siavash now.

How exactly has she played with their minds? It was Sree and Marcus who couldn't take no for an answer.

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside


"Favs
BB10: Sophie"

:shrug:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Tom
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
It's ok to have sexual tension between people but what is not right is playing with their minds and it's exactly what Noirin has done. That's why she's a manipulative slut. If at least that was entertaining, it would have been good but it's not and I feel sorry for Siavash now.

How exactly has she played with their minds? It was Sree and Marcus who couldn't take no for an answer.

What about the 'I want to fµck Tom but then I go with Siavash but Marcus is on me but I still make him feel like $hit' thing ?
As for Sree, I couldn't bare him so he deserved what happened.

[Chantel]

One rule for Dogface another for Noirin

[Striptease]

Origineel gepost door Tom
Originally posted by Striptease
Sophie has a a boyfriend (Kris) so she can **** whenever the **** she wants.
Siavash did not cheat, he said he was dating a girl for a month.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

Kris and Sophie were never actually an item :thumbs: Whether a day, a month, a year or a century Siavash still has a girlfriend and if he cheats then he's just as bad, if not worse than Noirin.

Were never actually an item ? What the **** are you talking about. And like I said Siavash said he doesn't. Noirin also says Isaac was her EX but was he ? Coz why would they talk together before she went in the house about what she can do and what she can not do ? He can't say anything about that if he is her EX.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Rachel-x
One rule for Dogface another for Noirin

You can't even compare both. Completely different situations.

[Chantel]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Rachel-x
One rule for Dogface another for Noirin

You can't even compare both. Completely different situations.

Noirin cant flirt with a guy without being called a slut
yet Dogface s**** someone (who wont even refer to her as his g/f)on tv and gets away with it!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Rachel-x
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Rachel-x
One rule for Dogface another for Noirin

You can't even compare both. Completely different situations.

Noirin cant flirt with a guy without being called a slut
yet Dogface s**** someone (who wont even refer to her as his g/f)on tv and gets away with it!

But Sophie didn't play with anyone. So what, Sophie had sex, is that a crime ? No.
And Sophie had a proper boyfriend, Noirin doesn't.

[Fangz]

Am I understanding this correctly - other HM's perceived bad behaviour means that Noirin is some sort of saint?

[Tom]

Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside


"Favs
BB10: Sophie"

:shrug:

Your point? I always have and will accept favourite housemates faults. You'll find in my signature that 3 names i mentioned are also in my point. But when the faults are either non existent or blown out of proportion I'll argue with people over that.

Originally posted by Striptease
Origineel gepost door Tom
Originally posted by Striptease
Sophie has a a boyfriend (Kris) so she can **** whenever the **** she wants.
Siavash did not cheat, he said he was dating a girl for a month.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

Kris and Sophie were never actually an item :thumbs: Whether a day, a month, a year or a century Siavash still has a girlfriend and if he cheats then he's just as bad, if not worse than Noirin.

Were never actually an item ? What the **** are you talking about. And like I said Siavash said he doesn't. Noirin also says Isaac was her EX but was he ? Coz why would they talk together before she went in the house about what she can do and what she can not do ? He can't say anything about that if he is her EX.

Siavash's girlfriend, who has appeared on BBLB, appears to disagree with that. And he has mentioned her in the house a lot too (early on). And ex's do sort things out you know. They might have been back on speaking terms by the time she entered. If Kris and Sophie were a couple, then why wouldn't either of them say it?

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

What about the 'I want to fµck Tom but then I go with Siavash but Marcus is on me but I still make him feel like $hit' thing ?
As for Sree, I couldn't bare him so he deserved what happened.

How is that playing with minds? She didn't actually say anything to Tom (although I did find the "I'd ***** him everyday" comment bit weird but its no worse than Freddie saying he wants to have sex with Angel and Bea) and Marcus WAS still chasing her even though she had repeatedly said no. You just seem to be dragging up points and not actually adding any substance to what you're trying to say.

[Chantel]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Rachel-x
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Rachel-x
One rule for Dogface another for Noirin

You can't even compare both. Completely different situations.

Noirin cant flirt with a guy without being called a slut
yet Dogface s**** someone (who wont even refer to her as his g/f)on tv and gets away with it!

But Sophie didn't play with anyone. So what, Sophie had sex, is that a crime ? No.
And Sophie had a proper boyfriend, Noirin doesn't.

No she doesnt because Kris wont refer to her as his g/f
Nope not a crime having sex with someone, doing it on tv when her mother would be watching is a different story

[Tom]

Originally posted by Fangz
Am I understanding this correctly - other HM's perceived bad behaviour means that Noirin is some sort of saint?

Not at all, but why does Noirin get all the stick?

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
It's ok to have sexual tension between people but what is not right is playing with their minds and it's exactly what Noirin has done. That's why she's a manipulative slut. If at least that was entertaining, it would have been good but it's not and I feel sorry for Siavash now.

How exactly has she played with their minds? It was Sree and Marcus who couldn't take no for an answer.

i much agree with the sentiments of this thread,while noirin has had a few admirers it is not down to her that they fell for her so to call her a slut based on that is pretty nonsensical.. however her treatment of siavash lately is whats bothering me,and its this cold calculating attitude that has led others to believe she is a manipulative young so an so..

in lamens terms,she has treated siavash like muck so this will probably cause noirin to lose favour with the public and forum members..

[Cybele]

I've never thought Noirin was a slut. In fact, I made a post outlining why she was NOT a slut. It is an unfortunate fact that some people automatically call a woman a ***** or slut when they want to insult her regardless of her sexual history. Sad but true. So I think some people who are calling Noirin a slut aren't actually referring to her sexual stuff but to the fact that they don't like her.

And, whether you want to accept it or not, Noirin has given a lot of people a LOT of reasons not to like her. However, it seems like whenever these faults are mentioned to the diehard Noirin supporters, they counter with the faults of other people. Just because Marcus or Sree or Siavash or whoever have faults, it doesn't change the fact that Noirin ALSO has faults.

And those faults have alienated a lot of people. Period.

[Adamw92]

Well said Tom!!! :cheer:

[Prole]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

Yeah, and the difference between them is... you don't fancy any of the others. Right?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Cybele
I've never thought Noirin was a slut. In fact, I made a post outlining why she was NOT a slut. It is an unfortunate fact that some people automatically call a woman a ***** or slut when they want to insult her regardless of her sexual history. Sad but true. So I think some people who are calling Noirin a slut aren't actually referring to her sexual stuff but to the fact that they don't like her.

And, whether you want to accept it or not, Noirin has given a lot of people a LOT of reasons not to like her. However, it seems like whenever these faults are mentioned to the diehard Noirin supporters, they counter with the faults of other people. Just because Marcus or Sree or Siavash or whoever have faults, it doesn't change the fact that Noirin ALSO has faults.

And those faults have alienated a lot of people. Period.

I'm not for one second saying Noirin doesn't have faults, I'm just asking why is Noirin vilified for things that others have done, or where they have done worse? All these other people seem to be saints but Noirin is the house slag.

Originally posted by ViaVerde
Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

Yeah, and the difference between them is... you don't fancy any of the others. Right?

Wrong :tongue: hence my favourite :wink:

[Fangz]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Fangz
Am I understanding this correctly - other HM's perceived bad behaviour means that Noirin is some sort of saint?

Not at all, but why does Noirin get all the stick?
Noirin's behaviour has had more of a negative effect on the house, and she shows no regret.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

Sophie does not sleep about on the outside. She has only slept with and kissed two men before the house.

Siavash did cheat on an imaginary girlfriend - meaning he is a liar and also duplicitous fool.

Bea does sleep around and is manipulative.

Freddie and Marcus are Pervs, yes.

Noirin on the other hand has used sex as a weapon. She has openly led people on in the house.

You know, everyone wants to have sex. We all do - but when somebody teases and toys people for their own satisfaction then that person is far worse because to recover from such behaviour isn't easy.

This does make her the worst in the house but we've seen more of her. I would say Marcus and Siavash are just as bad and Freddie has never slept with more than 2 people in his whole life.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Fangz
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Fangz
Am I understanding this correctly - other HM's perceived bad behaviour means that Noirin is some sort of saint?

Not at all, but why does Noirin get all the stick?
Noirin's behaviour has had more of a negative effect on the house, and she shows no regret.

But the majority of the negativity hasn't come from her, it has come from the men perving over her when she has said she isn't interested. Thats what set Sree off, thats what made Marcus worse and eventually when the whole Siavash thing came out, also set Marcus off.

[alc09]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.
Hello Dennis.

[Tom]

Originally posted by MassiveTruck

Sophie does not sleep about on the outside. She has only slept with and kissed two men before the house.

Siavash did cheat on an imaginary girlfriend - meaning he is a liar and also duplicitous fool.

Bea does sleep around and is manipulative.

Freddie and Marcus are Pervs, yes.

Noirin on the other hand has used sex as a weapon. She has openly led people on in the house.

You know, everyone wants to have sex. We all do - but when somebody teases and toys people for their own satisfaction then that person is far worse because to recover from such behaviour isn't easy.

This does make her the worst in the house but we've seen more of her. I would say Marcus and Siavash are just as bad and Freddie has never slept with more than 2 people in his whole life.

I was talking about Kris, not Sophie.

How do you know she is imaginary?

How exactly has she teased and used them?

Freddie has also said he has slept with more than 2. I remember a conversation in the garden about it.

[Tom]

Originally posted by alc09
Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.
Hello Dennis.

Nice try, but I'm not Dennis.

[alc09]

Anyway Tom, Noirin will be gone on Friday. :thumbs:

[yousoboo!]

Noirin uses people for her own advantage

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
It's ok to have sexual tension between people but what is not right is playing with their minds and it's exactly what Noirin has done. That's why she's a manipulative slut. If at least that was entertaining, it would have been good but it's not and I feel sorry for Siavash now.

How exactly has she played with their minds? It was Sree and Marcus who couldn't take no for an answer.

I agree with you there Tom. Have people forgotten how Marcus plays with other peoples minds? Even Siavash was a little terrified to approach him - and this is because Marcus was playing mind games. Marcus and Sree as good as stalked her and then Siavash was also doing the same. I didn't see any of these three stalking Lisa.

[Chantel]

Originally posted by yousoboo!
Noirin uses people for her own advantage

We all do at some point

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Cybele
I've never thought Noirin was a slut. In fact, I made a post outlining why she was NOT a slut. It is an unfortunate fact that some people automatically call a woman a ***** or slut when they want to insult her regardless of her sexual history. Sad but true. So I think some people who are calling Noirin a slut aren't actually referring to her sexual stuff but to the fact that they don't like her.

And, whether you want to accept it or not, Noirin has given a lot of people a LOT of reasons not to like her. However, it seems like whenever these faults are mentioned to the diehard Noirin supporters, they counter with the faults of other people. Just because Marcus or Sree or Siavash or whoever have faults, it doesn't change the fact that Noirin ALSO has faults.

And those faults have alienated a lot of people. Period.

I'm not for one second saying Noirin doesn't have faults, I'm just asking why is Noirin vilified for things that others have done, or where they have done worse? All these other people seem to be saints but Noirin is the house slag.



Then please tell me which housemate has caused as many other housemates to have hurt feelings as Noirin has. Not even Lisa has had such a negative effect on as many other housemates.

[Tom]

Originally posted by yousoboo!
Noirin uses people for her own advantage

and I suppose Bea, listed as one of your faves, isn't manipulative either? Once Noirin has gone its obvious Bea is going to slot straight into her shoes and she'll probably be the new bandwagon to jump on. It happens all the time, once one female is evicted another female replaces them as the house uber bitch.

[Novo]

She is a filthy vile *****.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by Cybele
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Cybele
I've never thought Noirin was a slut. In fact, I made a post outlining why she was NOT a slut. It is an unfortunate fact that some people automatically call a woman a ***** or slut when they want to insult her regardless of her sexual history. Sad but true. So I think some people who are calling Noirin a slut aren't actually referring to her sexual stuff but to the fact that they don't like her.

And, whether you want to accept it or not, Noirin has given a lot of people a LOT of reasons not to like her. However, it seems like whenever these faults are mentioned to the diehard Noirin supporters, they counter with the faults of other people. Just because Marcus or Sree or Siavash or whoever have faults, it doesn't change the fact that Noirin ALSO has faults.

And those faults have alienated a lot of people. Period.

I'm not for one second saying Noirin doesn't have faults, I'm just asking why is Noirin vilified for things that others have done, or where they have done worse? All these other people seem to be saints but Noirin is the house slag.



Then please tell me which housemate has caused as many other housemates to have hurt feelings as Noirin has. Not even Lisa has had such a negative effect on as many other housemates.

These HMs that she so called hurt are adults who should have known better. They decided to go after her likes bees to honey not the other way round.

[JustKaz]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.


Fair comment, but i think because people are seeing the hurt she has caused (though I dont totally agree she to blame for Marcus hurt) she is not liked for that, no body likes to see anyone hurting or upset, and it really does come across that Noirin does not care for the upset she has caused.

I dont hate her, I dont think she deserves the nasty names, but she is not a nice person and she uses her looks just like she stated she would.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by yousoboo!
Noirin uses people for her own advantage

and I suppose Bea, listed as one of your faves, isn't manipulative either? Once Noirin has gone its obvious Bea is going to slot straight into her shoes and she'll probably be the new bandwagon to jump on. It happens all the time, once one female is evicted another female replaces them as the house uber bitch.

And if that happens and Bea is up for eviction, we'll deal with it. But again, Bea's faults have nothing to do with Noirin's faults. And Noirin is the one currently up for eviction.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Cybele
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Cybele
I've never thought Noirin was a slut. In fact, I made a post outlining why she was NOT a slut. It is an unfortunate fact that some people automatically call a woman a ***** or slut when they want to insult her regardless of her sexual history. Sad but true. So I think some people who are calling Noirin a slut aren't actually referring to her sexual stuff but to the fact that they don't like her.

And, whether you want to accept it or not, Noirin has given a lot of people a LOT of reasons not to like her. However, it seems like whenever these faults are mentioned to the diehard Noirin supporters, they counter with the faults of other people. Just because Marcus or Sree or Siavash or whoever have faults, it doesn't change the fact that Noirin ALSO has faults.

And those faults have alienated a lot of people. Period.

I'm not for one second saying Noirin doesn't have faults, I'm just asking why is Noirin vilified for things that others have done, or where they have done worse? All these other people seem to be saints but Noirin is the house slag.



Then please tell me which housemate has caused as many other housemates to have hurt feelings as Noirin has. Not even Lisa has had such a negative effect on as many other housemates.

By saying about Marcus and Sree and hurt feelings, its hardly Noirins fault if they fancied her and she wasn't interested?

[Cybele]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Originally posted by Cybele
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Cybele
I've never thought Noirin was a slut. In fact, I made a post outlining why she was NOT a slut. It is an unfortunate fact that some people automatically call a woman a ***** or slut when they want to insult her regardless of her sexual history. Sad but true. So I think some people who are calling Noirin a slut aren't actually referring to her sexual stuff but to the fact that they don't like her.

And, whether you want to accept it or not, Noirin has given a lot of people a LOT of reasons not to like her. However, it seems like whenever these faults are mentioned to the diehard Noirin supporters, they counter with the faults of other people. Just because Marcus or Sree or Siavash or whoever have faults, it doesn't change the fact that Noirin ALSO has faults.

And those faults have alienated a lot of people. Period.

I'm not for one second saying Noirin doesn't have faults, I'm just asking why is Noirin vilified for things that others have done, or where they have done worse? All these other people seem to be saints but Noirin is the house slag.



Then please tell me which housemate has caused as many other housemates to have hurt feelings as Noirin has. Not even Lisa has had such a negative effect on as many other housemates.

These HMs that she so called hurt are adults who should have known better. They decided to go after her likes bees to honey not the other way round.

Sorry, but you didn't answer the question. And you know why? Because you CAN'T answer the question without lying. Noirin has had more of a negative effect on other housemates than ANY of the other housemates. It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not she is a slut. It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that she has been toxic to the house.

So really you are the one being a hypocrite if you can never concede any point which is not in favor of Noirin. :shrug:

[Arneldo]

At the end of the day, Noirin is the star of the show. She may be going home 58 days in, but she has created so many story lines and BB10 was always brilliant when noirin was running the show.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Oh Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - I'm going for a fag by the bus stop. Norin to stay.

[Jayson]

Originally posted by .Andy.
She is a filthy vile *****.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Cybele
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by yousoboo!
Noirin uses people for her own advantage

and I suppose Bea, listed as one of your faves, isn't manipulative either? Once Noirin has gone its obvious Bea is going to slot straight into her shoes and she'll probably be the new bandwagon to jump on. It happens all the time, once one female is evicted another female replaces them as the house uber bitch.

And if that happens and Bea is up for eviction, we'll deal with it. But again, Bea's faults have nothing to do with Noirin's faults. And Noirin is the one currently up for eviction.

But why is Noirin the one being slated when other people are doing the same? Thats what I'm getting at. And it doesn't get "dealt with" when people are up for eviction either.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Cybele
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by yousoboo!
Noirin uses people for her own advantage

and I suppose Bea, listed as one of your faves, isn't manipulative either? Once Noirin has gone its obvious Bea is going to slot straight into her shoes and she'll probably be the new bandwagon to jump on. It happens all the time, once one female is evicted another female replaces them as the house uber bitch.

And if that happens and Bea is up for eviction, we'll deal with it. But again, Bea's faults have nothing to do with Noirin's faults. And Noirin is the one currently up for eviction.

But why is Noirin the one being slated when other people are doing the same? Thats what I'm getting at. And it doesn't get "dealt with" when people are up for eviction either.

First of all, no matter how many reasons I and others give you, your mind is not open to anything that is not in Noirin's favor, so I won't bother.

As to your second comment, I beg to differ. Whenever someone who was disliked came up for eviction, they left. Even Kenneth, who was too cowardly to face eviction, would have been evicted anyway. So if Bea is sewing bad seeds, then that will come back to haunt her if she comes up for eviction. But currently, Noirin and Marcus are in the hot seats. And there are certainly a lot of threads both for and against both of them. One of them will be dealt with tomorrow.

[Adamw92]

Originally posted by Arneldo
At the end of the day, Noirin is the star of the show. She may be going home 58 days in, but she has created so many story lines and BB10 was always brilliant when noirin was running the show.

Well said too...she should last longer but her haters will see that that will not happen but 58 days is better than thepossibly 44 she would have lasted if she went 2 weeks ago instead of Karly, atleast 58 is over half way

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by Adamw92
Originally posted by Arneldo
At the end of the day, Noirin is the star of the show. She may be going home 58 days in, but she has created so many story lines and BB10 was always brilliant when noirin was running the show.

Well said too...she should last longer but her haters will see that that will not happen but 58 days is better than thepossibly 44 she would have lasted if she went 2 weeks ago instead of Karly, atleast 58 is over half way

Yes I agree. She is very much part of the BB this year and it would be a shame to see her go.

[Sunny_Tsu]

Originally posted by Tom

But why is Noirin the one being slated when other people are doing the same? Thats what I'm getting at. And it doesn't get "dealt with" when people are up for eviction either.

Because other people ARE NOT doing the same. You have to lie and twist things to even come close to what Noirin has done and it's still a paper-thin excuse.

She's a cock-teasing attention ***** who cares about no one but herself.

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
simplistic and manipulative thread

I can see your attraction to her

The fact's are usually very simple, what many are using to scold Noirin are nothing more than mind reading, and crystal ball gazing, she did x and y and "obviously" she did it because of "that"

This is not the way to judge a person which will suffer much hate and ridicuel for her appearance on BB. Judge with a clear head, facts in your post's less speculation and maybe you will attain a fair perspective. Failing that follow the path of least resistance and read your tea leaves a bit more.

[Callum.]

Someone speaks sense on here. :dance:

[BB_Eye]

I for one never have and never will call her a slut. She is just a very horrible person with no regard for the feelings of others.

[Sunny_Tsu]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
The fact's are usually very simple, what many are using to scold Noirin are nothing more than mind reading, and crystal ball gazing, she did x and y and "obviously" she did it because of "that"

This is not the way to judge a person which will suffer much hate and ridicuel for her appearance on BB. Judge with a clear head, facts in your post's less speculation and maybe you will attain a fair perspective. Failing that follow the path of least resistance and read your tea leaves a bit more.

Yes, we must be imagining Noirin leading people on saying "We're just friends" then putting her tongue down her "friend's" throat and getting into bed with him. Only in the delusional Noirin fan universe is this normal friend behaviour.

She leads them on till they're emotionally invested and then she shuts them down. Cold hearted bitch and I can't wait for Firday when she's called a sociopath.

[30stone]

Agree with the first post.
Someone that knows a flirty woman lol.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.
I don't think many see her as a slut, per se.

Moreso selfish, manipulative, narcissistic, inconsiderate, attention-seeking, uses sexual powers to re-boost her power and status, uses men as lapdogs to cater to her needs, etc.

The conscensus, or indeed issue, isn't her sexual activity. She is renowned as a c*cktease; relatively opposing to the idea of being a slut.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by BB_Eye
I for one never have and never will call her a slut. She is just a very horrible person with no regard for the feelings of others.
Yes, it's her demeanour and behaviour towards others, that's terrible ...

[shams79]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house. yes when you put is like that it is most unfair to label her to a women of the night, but you have to look at her intentions, these other have not lead or encouraged this sort of behaviour and in all fairness Noirin has.:eureka::cloud::cloud:

[=-Incognito-=]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.


It's like some endless stream of morons deliberately using the most offensive words possible to describe a housemate.


And yes I'm talking about the language used against Marcus too, you hypocrite!

[Tom4784]

People call her a slut because they don't like her and want to justify their hate. Tom is absolutely right, everyone who picks Noirin up on her behavior ARE hypocrites if they don't say anything about Sophie or Siavash.

[rusticgal]

Theres flirting with someone and there is snogging and sleeping with someone.... she took it beyond flirting.Shes got her man now she doesn't give a toss about anyone else.
She is one hell of a bitch.

[Shasown]

Slut is also defined as a women of loose morals, or, a slovenly, dirty woman, or, a prostitute.

Slovenly means careless untidy

So in some ways slut is quite fitting.

Depends on your understanding and the context of the word.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Cybele

First of all, no matter how many reasons I and others give you, your mind is not open to anything that is not in Noirin's favor, so I won't bother.

As to your second comment, I beg to differ. Whenever someone who was disliked came up for eviction, they left. Even Kenneth, who was too cowardly to face eviction, would have been evicted anyway. So if Bea is sewing bad seeds, then that will come back to haunt her if she comes up for eviction. But currently, Noirin and Marcus are in the hot seats. And there are certainly a lot of threads both for and against both of them. One of them will be dealt with tomorrow.

I will accept things that arne't in Noirin's favour and if you've read my posts properly you'll see that I accept my favourites have flaws.

I beg to differ about that comment. There is usually a hated female at one given time and before the Noirin bandwagon arrived it was Lisa. When Noirin goes tomorrow it will be back to Lisa or on to Bea.

Originally posted by shams79

yes when you put is like that it is most unfair to label her to a women of the night, but you have to look at her intentions, these other have not lead or encouraged this sort of behaviour and in all fairness Noirin has.:eureka::cloud::cloud:

People use Noirin's "I'd **** Tom every day" comment as things against her. Freddie has said about Angel "if we were in the outside world, we'd just have sex" and about Bea "she'd be over my shoulder and into my bedroom". How is that any different? The intention is the same :wink:

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

It's like some endless stream of morons deliberately using the most offensive words possible to describe a housemate.


And yes I'm talking about the language used against Marcus too, you hypocrite!

Why have I been hypocritical? Am I the one using double standards? I think not.

[MaratSafinForever]

and your favourite is sophie, you're the hypocrite

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Cybele
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Cybele
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by yousoboo!
Noirin uses people for her own advantage

and I suppose Bea, listed as one of your faves, isn't manipulative either? Once Noirin has gone its obvious Bea is going to slot straight into her shoes and she'll probably be the new bandwagon to jump on. It happens all the time, once one female is evicted another female replaces them as the house uber bitch.

And if that happens and Bea is up for eviction, we'll deal with it. But again, Bea's faults have nothing to do with Noirin's faults. And Noirin is the one currently up for eviction.

But why is Noirin the one being slated when other people are doing the same? Thats what I'm getting at. And it doesn't get "dealt with" when people are up for eviction either.

I beg to differ. Whenever someone who was disliked came up for eviction, they left. Even Kenneth, who was too cowardly to face eviction, would have been evicted anyway. So if Bea is sewing bad seeds, then that will come back to haunt her if she comes up for eviction. But currently, Noirin and Marcus are in the hot seats. And there are certainly a lot of threads both for and against both of them. One of them will be dealt with tomorrow.

I beg to differ about that comment. There is usually a hated female at one given time and before the Noirin bandwagon arrived it was Lisa. When Noirin goes tomorrow it will be back to Lisa or on to Bea.

Uh... I'm sorry but what you said has nothing to do with what I originally said. Please go back and review. What I SAID was that you didn't need to use Bea's behavior as an excuse for or a diversion away from Noirin's behavior because if Bea upset enough people, then she would be dealt with when she came up for eviction.

What does who is left in the house have to do with that? You mention Lisa being hated in the house, but she has not been up for eviction.

If you want people to accept your arguments that Noirin isn't a bad person then you really need to stop using the X does this argument. Regardless of what anyone else does in the house male or female, it does not change what Noirin has done in the house. And as I said, if someone pissed everyone off enough, they will be dealt with at eviction time. But THIS WEEK we are faced with Marcus and Noirin. One of them WILL be dealt with tomorrow.

[=-Incognito-=]

Originally posted by Tom

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

It's like some endless stream of morons deliberately using the most offensive words possible to describe a housemate.


And yes I'm talking about the language used against Marcus too, you hypocrite!

Why have I been hypocritical? Am I the one using double standards? I think not.

You called Marcus:

Word Origin & History

pervert (v.)
c.1300 (trans.), "to turn someone aside from a right religious belief to a false or erroneous one," from O.Fr. pervertir, from L. pervertere "corrupt, turn the wrong way, turn about," from per- "away" + vertere "to turn" (see versus). The noun is 1661, from the verb. Replaced native froward, which embodies the same image. The noun is attested from 1661, "one who has forsaken a doctrine or system regarded as true, apostate;" psychological sense of "one who has a perversion of the sexual instinct" is attested from 1897 (Havelock Ellis), originally esp. of homosexuals. Perv, short for sexual pervert (n.), is first recorded 1944.

So yes there's a big fat double standard.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Cybele

Uh... I'm sorry but what you said has nothing to do with what I originally said. Please go back and review. What I SAID was that you didn't need to use Bea's behavior as an excuse for or a diversion away from Noirin's behavior because if Bea upset enough people, then she would be dealt with when she came up for eviction.

What does who is left in the house have to do with that? You mention Lisa being hated in the house, but she has not been up for eviction.

If you want people to accept your arguments that Noirin isn't a bad person then you really need to stop using the X does this argument. Regardless of what anyone else does in the house male or female, it does not change what Noirin has done in the house. And as I said, if someone p****d everyone off enough, they will be dealt with at eviction time. But THIS WEEK we are faced with Marcus and Noirin. One of them WILL be dealt with tomorrow.

I'm not using Bea's behaviour to mask Noirin's. I'm just asking why is Bea getting away with it? And I was saying that instead of being "dealt with" when shes up for eviction, once the bandwagon female has left the forum jumps on to someone new. This is what I meant by the Lisa comment, not that she is liked in the house. By the way she should have been up for eviction last week so can't be that popular in the house :thumbs:

I don't want people to accept my argument that Noirin is a bad person, I just think the forum is hypocritical when it comes to slating housemates for something that others have done, yet the rest get away with it!!

[Tom]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Originally posted by Tom

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

It's like some endless stream of morons deliberately using the most offensive words possible to describe a housemate.


And yes I'm talking about the language used against Marcus too, you hypocrite!

Why have I been hypocritical? Am I the one using double standards? I think not.

You called Marcus:

Word Origin & History

pervert (v.)
c.1300 (trans.), "to turn someone aside from a right religious belief to a false or erroneous one," from O.Fr. pervertir, from L. pervertere "corrupt, turn the wrong way, turn about," from per- "away" + vertere "to turn" (see versus). The noun is 1661, from the verb. Replaced native froward, which embodies the same image. The noun is attested from 1661, "one who has forsaken a doctrine or system regarded as true, apostate;" psychological sense of "one who has a perversion of the sexual instinct" is attested from 1897 (Havelock Ellis), originally esp. of homosexuals. Perv, short for sexual pervert (n.), is first recorded 1944.

So yes there's a big fat double standard.

I'd be hypocritical if I was saying we shouldn't be calling housemates. I'm arguing something completely different :whistle:

[philmurph]

Originally posted by Fangz
Am I understanding this correctly - other HM's perceived bad behaviour means that Noirin is some sort of saint? not at all but no one in the house is without fault unlike all the angels posting on this site nobody appears to have ever made a mistake:angel:

[luminoussun]

If you look someone has already got 60+ reasons for evicting noirin and only one is slut.

[PixieBoots]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.

Blah blah blah - clearly people don't understand the meaning of the word slut.
At best Noirin is a minxy tease. At worst a manipulative, self-obsessed bore.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by philmurph
Originally posted by Fangz
Am I understanding this correctly - other HM's perceived bad behaviour means that Noirin is some sort of saint? not at all but no one in the house is without fault unlike all the angels posting on this site nobody appears to have ever made a mistake:angel:

I agree with you to a certain extent. Like, for example, yesterday I was trying to explain why living in the house must be very difficult for Marcus. And I tried to point out that if any of us was in the same situation, who knows how we would react. I'd venture that nearly all of us have not had to have our heart broken on national television while confined with both the woman who broke your heart AND the best friend who is snogging her in a 3 room house. I give him a bit of compassion for having to endure that. But, of course, my words fell on deaf ears.

[=-Incognito-=]

Originally posted by Tom
I'd be hypocritical if I was saying we shouldn't be calling housemates. I'm arguing something completely different :whistle:

So it's okay to call every other housemate nasty names that aren't true but when it comes to Noirin we're suddenly all 'hypocrites'?

Or are you simply arguing that everything said about her is true and we all act the same as her on the outside?

Either way you're on to a loser here.

[Tom]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Originally posted by Tom
I'd be hypocritical if I was saying we shouldn't be calling housemates. I'm arguing something completely different :whistle:

So it's okay to call every other housemate nasty names that aren't true but when it comes to Noirin we're suddenly all 'hypocrites'?

Or are you simply arguing that everything said about her is true and we all act the same as her on the outside?

Either way you're on to a loser here.

None of those options. I'm simply saying that other housemates have done what Noirin has, in some cases worse, yet they aren't being slated for it.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Tom
Sophie spread her legs in the house for someone she knew a week. This person reportedly sleeps about on the outside

Siavash cheated on his girlfriend

Bea sleeps about outside the house and is coming on to all of the men. She is also being very manipulative

Freddie has said about 2 or 3 people that he wants to have sex with them and would have done if on the outside world

Marcus perved over Noirin for weeks and is now perving over Bea

Yet Noirin, who had men after her and she said no, is the slut of the house.


Well observed but I am afraid you are talking to deaf ears.......People thrive on hate.......Makes them climax in some way.....

[CaPPa]

Originally posted by TomHow is that playing with minds? She didn't actually say anything to Tom (although I did find the "I'd **** him everyday" comment bit weird but its no worse than Freddie saying he wants to have sex with Angel and Bea) and Marcus WAS still chasing her even though she had repeatedly said no. You just seem to be dragging up points and not actually adding any substance to what you're trying to say.

The thing is what Noirin says doesn't match her actions.

She says that she doesn't want a relationship and just wants to be friends but then she is in bed kissing and cuddling them. Most people don't kiss their friends like that so you can't blame the guys for thinking 'well she says she just wants to be friends but that kiss said something else'.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Sunny_Tsu
Yes, we must be imagining Noirin leading people on saying "We're just friends" then putting her tongue down her "friend's" throat and getting into bed with him. Only in the delusional Noirin fan universe is this normal friend behaviour.

She leads them on till they're emotionally invested and then she shuts them down. Cold hearted bitch and I can't wait for Firday when she's called a sociopath.

Spot on! :thumbs:

Noirin is not a slut but she is a self obsessed, manipulative cock tease. All she thinks about and cares about is Noirin. And for THAT reason I'll be glad to see her go now, yes she's been entertaining to a point, but I don't want to watch 'The Noirin and Isaac Show' thank you very much. Plus she blatantly thinks she's going to stay now that Isaac is there, she needs taking down a peg or two if you ask me.

[moonballoon]

No, Noirin is in a different league. I wouldn't call her a slut, but there is a word for what she does.