'Wasted money on Marcus': what a Corals Bookie told me

[davidalbert]

I live on the same small block as a Corals Bookie in our Village.....when I look out the kitchen window I can see them across.....
we share the same communal area for bins..sometimes they take my bin by mistake.....

this morning while washing up I could see one of them at the bin area so I rushed out......

I wanted to ask him about BB odds.....

I said 'its very close isnt it?'......

he said 'technically it has been, in reality betting on marcus to go is wasted money'......

I said 'but why is it so close odds in most bookies this week?'

he said: 'after last weeks cancelled eviction and having to repay bets bookies had to make sure they recouped this week on lost takings'..........

it was all a RUSE to make people think it was closer than it is......

apparently she is about 70% to marcus 30%......

[Anothercat]

They couldn't fix the online polls though, all which have them at almost 50/50

[Patricia4]

Thanks for that I hope she goes.

[ChaunceyGardner]

hold on a second.....a bookie is telling you there's no point in placing a bet on marcus!!!!!!!!

That's the most amazing thing I've ever heard in my life. A bookie telling someone "nah...I don't want you're money mate...that horse is going to lose"!!!

somethings very fishy here.

[lukebartram]

noo

it cant be 70%
cuz
noirin or marcus got 50% or something

[davidalbert]

Chauncey.....we were chit-chatting ..he was telling me that as a neighbour........

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Anothercat
They couldn't fix the online polls though, all which have them at almost 50/50

As rehearsed elsewhere, the online polls are largely historic and irrelvant as most people cast their single vote before the changed circumstances of Isaac. They really should have been reset

[Claymores]

Originally posted by LukeBartram
noo

it cant be 70%
cuz
noirin or marcus got 50% or something

I can assure you the only intersting debate within the gambling community at the moment is whether she'll crack the 70% mark

[ChaunceyGardner]

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by LukeBartram
noo

it cant be 70%
cuz
noirin or marcus got 50% or something

I can assure you the only intersting debate within the gambling community at the moment is whether she'll crack the 70% mark

that's not even a debate. all the money is going on the 50-60% margin and as was pointed out in another thread...there's hardly any money being placed on that....

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by LukeBartram
noo

it cant be 70%
cuz
noirin or marcus got 50% or something

I can assure you the only intersting debate within the gambling community at the moment is whether she'll crack the 70% mark

that's not even a debate. all the money is going on the 50-60% margin and as was pointed out in another thread...there's hardly any money being placed on that....

I may be betting mixed up with members but i believe claymore knows the betting industry pretty well...

[Claymores]

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by LukeBartram
noo

it cant be 70%
cuz
noirin or marcus got 50% or something

I can assure you the only intersting debate within the gambling community at the moment is whether she'll crack the 70% mark

that's not even a debate. all the money is going on the 50-60% margin and as was pointed out in another thread...there's hardly any money being placed on that....

"All the money" is exactly - £1709 traded across the whole of the UK & Ireland in the open market - sweetie money. Serious gamblers are private betting each other privately more than that each time. I've been offered £5k on over/under a particular percentage, but I'm not playing as there is no sensible way to guage.

[ElProximo]

I really do believe that pre-Isaac we will find out (if they say?) that it was a lot closer to 50/50.
Lamb and BBLB people were freely commenting on it being too close to call and they surely knew something about the numbers coming in or at least have good guesstimates,
but then as soon as Isaac entered (after kissing Siavash and )$&&#$ with the 'were just good frends' and oh man.. I am sure it did turn well against Noirin and 70-30 and maybe even more by votes closing.

But I would well believe it really was somewhere at 50-50 at that time.

[paulh_85]

i almost took evens on a 60 - 70 percentage the other day, however after seeing some unoffical polls since issac went in, both on here and DS, there is a chance it will break 70%

[ChaunceyGardner]

Originally posted by Claymores
"All the money" is exactly - £1709 traded across the whole of the UK & Ireland in the open market - sweetie money. Serious gamblers are private betting each other privately more than that each time. I've been offered £5k on over/under a particular percentage, but I'm not playing as there is no sensible way to guage.

quick question..(you sound like you know a lot more about bookie stuff than I do)...but do bookies ever deliberately offer crazy odds to repel bets? in other words offer such ridiculous odds that it's not worth placing a bet in the first place.

the reason I ask is because there's something very fishy about this weeks odds.

i was thinking that the bookies might not like the bb setup...particularly with the ease with which BB can "fix" things, like they have done in the past.

[Jayson]

Originally posted by Patricia4
Thanks for that I hope she goes.

[newshoes]

it's a done deal
noirin will go
it's just a matter of guessing the percentage

i'd say 75% / 25%
isaac entering has done her no favours

[ChaunceyGardner]

Originally posted by newshoes
it's a done deal
noirin will go
it's just a matter of guessing the percentage

i'd say 75% / 25%
isaac entering has done her no favours

I wouldn't be so sure.

Isaac entering the house can work for her....the new house dynamic which is on a knife edge is actually quite compelling..whether you like noirin or not. Marcus's significance in the house is on a par with hira now...irrelevant.

I know the odds and opinions on this forum are weighted in your favour (i.e. noirins gone), but, i wouldn't be so certain. I think it will be much closer than people think...and I also reckon BB ratings will be the loser if noirin goes and I'm not so sure bb will allow that to happen.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner
Originally posted by Claymores
"All the money" is exactly - £1709 traded across the whole of the UK & Ireland in the open market - sweetie money. Serious gamblers are private betting each other privately more than that each time. I've been offered £5k on over/under a particular percentage, but I'm not playing as there is no sensible way to guage.

quick question..(you sound like you know a lot more about bookie stuff than I do)...but do bookies ever deliberately offer crazy odds to repel bets? in other words offer such ridiculous odds that it's not worth placing a bet in the first place.

the reason I ask is because there's something very fishy about this weeks odds.

i was thinking that the bookies might not like the bb setup...particularly with the ease with which BB can "fix" things, like they have done in the past.

Some do in some circumstances. As soon as it becomes obvious what the outcome of an eviction will be, some choose to move their odds to an outrageous level so they are still in the game, but not expecting to have to absorb an almost guaranteed loss.by many bets(it has happened this week with paddy and ladbrokes) BB is not like the gee gee's where the fave can fall at the last fence when 20 lengths clear.

Fixes generally suit bookies - for example, if they'd had to absorb a lot of betting on an almost sure evictiion, then BB twists it so a different housemate gets the boot!

[Claymores]

Originally posted by ElProximo
I really do believe that pre-Isaac we will find out (if they say?) that it was a lot closer to 50/50.
Lamb and BBLB people were freely commenting on it being too close to call and they surely knew something about the numbers coming in or at least have good guesstimates,
but then as soon as Isaac entered (after kissing Siavash and )$&&#$ with the 'were just good frends' and oh man.. I am sure it did turn well against Noirin and 70-30 and maybe even more by votes closing.

But I would well believe it really was somewhere at 50-50 at that time.

That's exactly my view - and actually Markus was the good place to put your money at that time as the polls were going against him yet the bookies were still offering decent odds of 6/4 (having Nora odds-on fave)

[ChaunceyGardner]

Originally posted by Claymores
Some do (put up outragous odds) in some circumstances. As soon as it becomes obvious what the outcome of an eviction will be, some choose to move their odds to an outrageous level so they are still in the game, but not expecting to have to absorb an almost guaranteed loss.by many bets(it has happened this week with paddy and ladbrokes) BB is not like the gee gee's where the fave can fall at the last fence when 20 lengths clear.

Fixes generally suit bookies - for example, if they'd had to absorb a lot of betting on an almost sure evictiion, then BB twists it so a different housemate gets the boot!

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

re: your point about the fave falling at the last fence: don't forget that Big Brother is the jockey in tonights race. and as i understand it, like britains got talent, the voting figures aren't audited.