Is Tom on steroids? [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

MaratSafinForever

31-07-2009, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by kisywisy
he doesn't need to be on steroids to get that big

he just trains a lot

training mass doesn't equal muscle mass

he could train for as short as 45 per day, 6 days per week and still be huge as long as he is following a well designed training programme and eating enough of the correct food.

Kaaren!

31-07-2009, 11:08 PM

ha yeah his body and muscles are quite unbelieveable lmao bit to big for me tho haha but yeah its quite amazing how ppl can get their bodies like that naturally but i think he has i doubt hes on steroids

masonbason

31-07-2009, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by kisywisy
he doesn't need to be on steroids to get that big

he just trains a lot

Yeah but i train a lot, and its perhap half of that and i do all the protein stuff.. and i am considered quite big so i just want to know

Fangz

31-07-2009, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Fangz
Hope not, that **** can do potentially lethal things to your system, even after you've stopped using it.

and gives you a small willy
And boobs.

=-Incognito-=

31-07-2009, 11:10 PM

Definately 'roiding. Nothing wrong about it though, it's not like he's competing at the olympics.

biggiupdee

31-07-2009, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by masonbason
[quote]Originally posted by kisywisy
he doesn't need to be on steroids to get that big

he just trains a lot

Yeah but i train a lot, and its perhap half of that and i do all the protein stuff.. and i am considered quite big so i just want to know [/quote

oh yeah he uses steriods, but he works out ike crazy too]

AhmedFan2004

31-07-2009, 11:10 PM

He looked awesome and his arms were incredible, props where it's due, impressive ...

masonbason

31-07-2009, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by Fangz
Hope not, that **** can do potentially lethal things to your system, even after you've stopped using it.

I know a few friends on it, and they are nearly as big as him but not that big.. thats why i asked, if it is natural than what is he doing..

kisywisy

31-07-2009, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by kisywisy
he doesn't need to be on steroids to get that big

he just trains a lot

training mass doesn't equal muscle mass

he could train for as short as 45 per day, 6 days per week and still be huge as long as he is following a well designed training programme and eating enough of the correct food.

that's a lot for me!! lol i'm a lazy fecker

i don't think he's on anything. he's just worked hard to get his body like that and like you said, he can maintain it relatively easily

masonbason

31-07-2009, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Definately 'roiding.

I think so and did you notice his mood swings in the house..

AhmedFan2004

31-07-2009, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by masonbason
Originally posted by Fangz
Hope not, that **** can do potentially lethal things to your system, even after you've stopped using it.

I know a few friends on it, and they are nearly as big as him but not that big.. thats why i asked, if it is natural than what is he doing..
Size is one thing, but definition, shape, flow, etc is another. Tom has brilliant genetics.

That's why it's rare to see someone look like that.

MaratSafinForever

31-07-2009, 11:12 PM

so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

masonbason

31-07-2009, 11:13 PM

=-Incognito-=

31-07-2009, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by masonbason
Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Definately 'roiding.

I think so and did you notice his mood swings in the house..

Yeah, mood swings, quick temper, no tolerance for boredom.

AhmedFan2004

31-07-2009, 11:14 PM

Hedgie

31-07-2009, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by masonbason
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

eh what are you on...
Steroids, evidently :joker:

Tom

31-07-2009, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

On a body building forum of course they're going to have a subjective view and only see the benefits and not risks we've outlined. Its like someone coming on this forum and saying how BB is past it and only saddos now watch etc

I think more of us on here are clued up than a bunch of ******* whos only objective in life is to add muscle to their body and would sell their own gran to look like a freak

Fangz

31-07-2009, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about
Some serious bodybuilders are warped individuals though, they're like reverse anorexics, doing anything and everything to get bigger than the next guy, and in total denial.

AhmedFan2004

31-07-2009, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by Fangz
Some serious bodybuilders are warped individuals though, they're like reverse anorexics, doing anything and everything to get bigger than the next guy, and in total denial.
Most people on bodybuilding forums are just wannabee bodybuilders and armchair gurus though. They are not mega buff, ripped guys typing away. Lots of kids, ignorant fools and deluded guys post on there. At least on a Big Brother forum the opinions are more impartial, less warped and deluded.

rayheartbliss

31-07-2009, 11:21 PM

i think hes just a big guy....
i've seen how steroid people, and he dont really look like them..

google it :D

masonbason

31-07-2009, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by rayheartbliss
i think hes just a big guy....
i've seen how steroid people, and he dont really look like them..

google it :D

His arms do not look proportionate to his body. They just look massive.

30stone

31-07-2009, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Fangz
Some serious bodybuilders are warped individuals though, they're like reverse anorexics, doing anything and everything to get bigger than the next guy, and in total denial.
Most people on bodybuilding forums are just wannabee bodybuilders and armchair gurus though. They are not mega buff, ripped guys typing away. Lots of kids, ignorant fools and deluded guys post on there. At least on a Big Brother forum the opinions are more impartial, less warped and deluded.

Yeh on the one im on, you do get people like that, but you get a lot of people doing journals/ blogs with updates of pictures and occasionally videos of what they have done.

Some compete in various comps to..

And tom is definately an impressive build.

Fangz

31-07-2009, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by rayheartbliss
i think hes just a big guy....
i've seen how steroid people, and he dont really look like them..

google it :D
Depends on how much and how long he (might have been) been using them, and as with all drugs, the effects depend on the individual using them.

Tom

31-07-2009, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by rayheartbliss
i think hes just a big guy....
i've seen how steroid people, and he dont really look like them..

google it :D

A lot depends on the clothes you wear. In the house he often was either shirtless or had a coat on. I mean even look on streaming at the tshirt Charlie has on (£15, River Island, I have it :joker:) he looks fairly big with that on but in actual fact he's just average

AhmedFan2004

31-07-2009, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by masonbason

His arms do not look proportionate to his body. They just look massive.
He obviously ballooned back up to full size again (previous to BB and any time spent captive), training and eating well, etc. Looked brilliant! Arms galore!

Tom

31-07-2009, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by masonbason

His arms do not look proportionate to his body. They just look massive.
He obviously ballooned back up to full size again (previous to BB and any time spent captive), training and eating well, etc. Looked brilliant! Arms galore!

your arms also look much bigger from the front and thats the only angle we seen him from tonight, whereas on BB we seen pretty much every angle

Big_Kahuna

31-07-2009, 11:31 PM

He prob on steds and left the house 'cos he knew he'd end up with a crackin pair of moobs

Jayson

31-07-2009, 11:31 PM

I don't think he's on 'roids, just alot of hard work, dieting, all that crab.

30stone

31-07-2009, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
i think hes just a big guy....
i've seen how steroid people, and he dont really look like them..

google it :D

A lot depends on the clothes you wear. In the house he often was either shirtless or had a coat on. I mean even look on streaming at the tshirt Charlie has on (£15, River Island, I have it :joker:) he looks fairly big with that on but in actual fact he's just average

Average lol?

He is bigger than the average weightlifter.

Id like to know what he weights.

BlackOrWhite

31-07-2009, 11:31 PM

So, because somebody is muscly they're on steroids? How do you know, he could have worked for years and year to get that big, it's what people do if they want to look like that, some do go down the road of steroids and I'm not saying Tom has or hasn't but just because people are body-builders and big it doesn't mean every single one of them is on steroids.

MaratSafinForever

31-07-2009, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

On a body building forum of course they're going to have a subjective view and only see the benefits and not risks we've outlined. Its like someone coming on this forum and saying how BB is past it and only saddos now watch etc

I think more of us on here are clued up than a bunch of ******* whos only objective in life is to add muscle to their body and would sell their own gran to look like a freak

What are you talking about? like 1% of that forum are using roids. I am not talking about the roid issue in particular but more the comments on how he is that big.

Tom

31-07-2009, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
i think hes just a big guy....
i've seen how steroid people, and he dont really look like them..

google it :D

A lot depends on the clothes you wear. In the house he often was either shirtless or had a coat on. I mean even look on streaming at the tshirt Charlie has on (£15, River Island, I have it :joker:) he looks fairly big with that on but in actual fact he's just average

Average lol?

He is bigger than the average weightlifter.

Id like to know what he weights.

Charlie bigger than a weight lifter?! Are you mad?

Fangz

31-07-2009, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

On a body building forum of course they're going to have a subjective view and only see the benefits and not risks we've outlined. Its like someone coming on this forum and saying how BB is past it and only saddos now watch etc

I think more of us on here are clued up than a bunch of ******* whos only objective in life is to add muscle to their body and would sell their own gran to look like a freak

What are you talking about? like 1% of that forum are using roids. I am not talking about the roid issue in particular but more the comments on how he is that big.
Yes, because all drug users are totally honest about their habits.

MaratSafinForever

31-07-2009, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Fangz
Some serious bodybuilders are warped individuals though, they're like reverse anorexics, doing anything and everything to get bigger than the next guy, and in total denial.
Most people on bodybuilding forums are just wannabee bodybuilders and armchair gurus though. They are not mega buff, ripped guys typing away. Lots of kids, ignorant fools and deluded guys post on there. At least on a Big Brother forum the opinions are more impartial, less warped and deluded.

go on it and see then, there is a section for "post your pics" and you are only allowed an avatar of yourself. Pretty much all guys on there have a great physique whether they train for size, for a sport, for strength, whatever.

Tom

31-07-2009, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

On a body building forum of course they're going to have a subjective view and only see the benefits and not risks we've outlined. Its like someone coming on this forum and saying how BB is past it and only saddos now watch etc

I think more of us on here are clued up than a bunch of ******* whos only objective in life is to add muscle to their body and would sell their own gran to look like a freak

What are you talking about? like 1% of that forum are using roids. I am not talking about the roid issue in particular but more the comments on how he is that big.

I was assuming you were on about the roids discussion, not whether Tom is on them. Its clear he isn't else he'd have unnatural veins and bumps popping out everywhere

masonbason

31-07-2009, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
i think hes just a big guy....
i've seen how steroid people, and he dont really look like them..

google it :D

A lot depends on the clothes you wear. In the house he often was either shirtless or had a coat on. I mean even look on streaming at the tshirt Charlie has on (£15, River Island, I have it :joker:) he looks fairly big with that on but in actual fact he's just average

Average lol?

He is bigger than the average weightlifter.

Exacty i have been bodybuilding for a few years, and take it from me, hes the bigger than some of the really fanatics in the gym who are lifting massive, definitely roided up.
Id like to know what he weights.

30stone

31-07-2009, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
i think hes just a big guy....
i've seen how steroid people, and he dont really look like them..

google it :D

A lot depends on the clothes you wear. In the house he often was either shirtless or had a coat on. I mean even look on streaming at the tshirt Charlie has on (£15, River Island, I have it :joker:) he looks fairly big with that on but in actual fact he's just average

Average lol?

He is bigger than the average weightlifter.

Id like to know what he weights.

Charlie bigger than a weight lifter?! Are you mad?

Thought you were talking about tom, i obviously didnt read what you said properly.

LipticBoven

31-07-2009, 11:36 PM

I would have to say he is on steriods, i do a lot of weight training but im no were near the size of that guy.

Its very hard to get low bodyfat while having a lot of muscle, because ur body would start to burn of the muscle for energy.

I have seen a lot of guys who take steriods that are a lot smaller then tom, so im 95% sure toms on the juice.

=-Incognito-=

31-07-2009, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
i think hes just a big guy....
i've seen how steroid people, and he dont really look like them..

google it :D

A lot depends on the clothes you wear. In the house he often was either shirtless or had a coat on. I mean even look on streaming at the tshirt Charlie has on (£15, River Island, I have it :joker:) he looks fairly big with that on but in actual fact he's just average

Average lol?

He is bigger than the average weightlifter.

Id like to know what he weights.

Charlie bigger than a weight lifter?! Are you mad?

No he's on about Tom. Tom's gone waaaay past the usual athletic body build into serious power lifter/Mr universe territory.

MaratSafinForever

31-07-2009, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

On a body building forum of course they're going to have a subjective view and only see the benefits and not risks we've outlined. Its like someone coming on this forum and saying how BB is past it and only saddos now watch etc

I think more of us on here are clued up than a bunch of ******* whos only objective in life is to add muscle to their body and would sell their own gran to look like a freak

What are you talking about? like 1% of that forum are using roids. I am not talking about the roid issue in particular but more the comments on how he is that big.

I was assuming you were on about the roids discussion, not whether Tom is on them. Its clear he isn't else he'd have unnatural veins and bumps popping out everywhere

Vascularity has nothing to do with steroids, steroids don't target your vascular system. That's down to a low body fat percentage.

AhmedFan2004

31-07-2009, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever

go on it and see then, there is a section for "post your pics" and you are only allowed an avatar of yourself. Pretty much all guys on there have a great physique whether they train for size, for a sport, for strength, whatever.
I've been on it for about 6 months lol, and other bodybuilding forums. I strongly disagree about pretty much all guys on there having a good physique, though. Most of the guys who actually put up photos, do so because they look good. Thousands never do or will, because they don't! Do not be fooled.

masonbason

31-07-2009, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

On a body building forum of course they're going to have a subjective view and only see the benefits and not risks we've outlined. Its like someone coming on this forum and saying how BB is past it and only saddos now watch etc

I think more of us on here are clued up than a bunch of ******* whos only objective in life is to add muscle to their body and would sell their own gran to look like a freak

What are you talking about? like 1% of that forum are using roids. I am not talking about the roid issue in particular but more the comments on how he is that big.

I was assuming you were on about the roids discussion, not whether Tom is on them. Its clear he isn't else he'd have unnatural veins and bumps popping out everywhere

There are different substances, , growth hormone it has become more sophisticated, to hide the steroid look. People who are on steroids develop veins that big to pump more blood, if he is that big, his veins must be big, but if you take other substances yo can mask that..

MaratSafinForever

31-07-2009, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Fangz
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

On a body building forum of course they're going to have a subjective view and only see the benefits and not risks we've outlined. Its like someone coming on this forum and saying how BB is past it and only saddos now watch etc

I think more of us on here are clued up than a bunch of ******* whos only objective in life is to add muscle to their body and would sell their own gran to look like a freak

What are you talking about? like 1% of that forum are using roids. I am not talking about the roid issue in particular but more the comments on how he is that big.
Yes, because all drug users are totally honest about their habits.

You obviously don't have a clue do you, if you're a bodybuilder it's pretty open to say you're on roids, all of the best bodybuilders are on them, they deny it obviously because they will be done in for it. Regular guys wont because it wont be publicized and they won't get thrown behind bars, there are places where it's legal and that's their choice. I'm not for it and think it's pathetic to be honest, I'm not for training for size in general as I think it's utterly pointless.

LipticBoven

31-07-2009, 11:41 PM

Yea steriods do nothing to ur veins, the most comman steriods used are syth versions of testosterone, and test doesn't make u look veiny otherwise every1 would start getting veiny when they hit puberty.

MaratSafinForever

31-07-2009, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever

go on it and see then, there is a section for "post your pics" and you are only allowed an avatar of yourself. Pretty much all guys on there have a great physique whether they train for size, for a sport, for strength, whatever.
I've been on it for about 6 months lol, and other bodybuilding forums. I strongly disagree about pretty much all guys on there having a good physique, though. Most of the guys who actually put up photos, do so because they look good. Thousands never do or will, because they don't! Do not be fooled.

Most guys for however long they have been training for are obviously keen and are on the right path to their goal. I can't complain about that. 90% of the forum put pictures up so I doubt you're even on it, what's your username then?

masonbason

31-07-2009, 11:42 PM

You obviously don't have a clue do you, if you're a bodybuilder it's pretty open to say you're on roids, all of the best bodybuilders are on them, they deny it obviously because they will be done in for it. Regular guys wont because it wont be publicized and they won't get thrown behind bars, there are places where it's legal and that's their choice. I'm not for it and think it's pathetic to be honest, I'm not for training for size in general as I think it's utterly pointless. [/quote]

Most of my friends are on roids, and their size has nearly doubled, but they dont look like they are on it. Roiding is pretty common in reactrional bodybuilding cause you are never going to get caught out.

LipticBoven

31-07-2009, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by masonbason
You obviously don't have a clue do you, if you're a bodybuilder it's pretty open to say you're on roids, all of the best bodybuilders are on them, they deny it obviously because they will be done in for it. Regular guys wont because it wont be publicized and they won't get thrown behind bars, there are places where it's legal and that's their choice. I'm not for it and think it's pathetic to be honest, I'm not for training for size in general as I think it's utterly pointless.

Most of my friends are on roids, and their size has nearly doubled, but they dont look like they are on it. Roiding is pretty common in reactrional bodybuilding cause you are never going to get caught out. [/quote]

I know a lot of ppl on roids and i have even been offered them a few tiimes at my gym. In england i believe it is also not against the law to own steriods but only to sell them.

MaratSafinForever

31-07-2009, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by masonbason
You obviously don't have a clue do you, if you're a bodybuilder it's pretty open to say you're on roids, all of the best bodybuilders are on them, they deny it obviously because they will be done in for it. Regular guys wont because it wont be publicized and they won't get thrown behind bars, there are places where it's legal and that's their choice. I'm not for it and think it's pathetic to be honest, I'm not for training for size in general as I think it's utterly pointless.

Most of my friends are on roids, and their size has nearly doubled, but they dont look like they are on it. Roiding is pretty common in reactrional bodybuilding cause you are never going to get caught out. [/quote]

Yes I've known a couple who have taken steroids and I think it's pretty bad to be honest, there are too many side effects: liver and kidney damage, cholesterol, gyno, mental problems, acne, loss of hair, stunt in growth, immune problems.

It's pointless.

Tom

31-07-2009, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

On a body building forum of course they're going to have a subjective view and only see the benefits and not risks we've outlined. Its like someone coming on this forum and saying how BB is past it and only saddos now watch etc

I think more of us on here are clued up than a bunch of ******* whos only objective in life is to add muscle to their body and would sell their own gran to look like a freak

What are you talking about? like 1% of that forum are using roids. I am not talking about the roid issue in particular but more the comments on how he is that big.

I was assuming you were on about the roids discussion, not whether Tom is on them. Its clear he isn't else he'd have unnatural veins and bumps popping out everywhere

Vascularity has nothing to do with steroids, steroids don't target your vascular system. That's down to a low body fat percentage.

But they increase the blood flow, so veins become more visible. Its a secondary effect. Its a bit like when you're hot or exercising and your veins show much more. Its also why your man bits are supposed to get smaller, which a lot of people write off as a myth

LipticBoven

31-07-2009, 11:50 PM

"It's legal to possess or import steroids as long as they're for personal use. But possession or importing with intent to supply (which includes giving them to friends) is illegal and could lead to 14 years in prison and an unlimited fine"

Yea if it wasn't for the sides, im sure i would have used steriods by now, but gyno scares me.

LipticBoven

31-07-2009, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
so much BS on here, quoted most of you and posted you on bodybuilding.com

hilarious the reactions, just slating you all, complete noobs you are, trying to talk about stuff you obviously don't have a clue about

On a body building forum of course they're going to have a subjective view and only see the benefits and not risks we've outlined. Its like someone coming on this forum and saying how BB is past it and only saddos now watch etc

I think more of us on here are clued up than a bunch of ******* whos only objective in life is to add muscle to their body and would sell their own gran to look like a freak

What are you talking about? like 1% of that forum are using roids. I am not talking about the roid issue in particular but more the comments on how he is that big.

I was assuming you were on about the roids discussion, not whether Tom is on them. Its clear he isn't else he'd have unnatural veins and bumps popping out everywhere

Vascularity has nothing to do with steroids, steroids don't target your vascular system. That's down to a low body fat percentage.

But they increase the blood flow, so veins become more visible. Its a secondary effect. Its a bit like when you're hot or exercising and your veins show much more. Its also why your man bits are supposed to get smaller, which a lot of people write off as a myth

Ur balls get smaller becuase they stop making testosterone, as ur body can detect there is more then enough test in ur body already.

MaratSafinForever

31-07-2009, 11:54 PM

Another myth, steroid increases the amount of red blood cells and obviously increase testosterone levels. There have been no long term studies that indicate that steroid increases blood flow, and that is obviously a very simple instance to test.

=-Incognito-=

31-07-2009, 11:59 PM

Steroids are the most widely known performance enchancement drug but certainly not the only one. There's plenty more and seriously large guys will use a coctail of substances to get to that size.

Tom

01-08-2009, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Another myth, steroid increases the amount of red blood cells and obviously increase testosterone levels. There have been no long term studies that indicate that steroid increases blood flow, and that is obviously a very simple instance to test.

They do affect blood pressure when taken for a long period of time, hence doctors have to make regular checks and have to prescribe cautiously, when prescription ones are much milder than body building ones. There have also been studies suggesting a slight difference in blood pressure, but returns to normal shortly after stopping taking them (if short term).

ash2006

01-08-2009, 12:02 AM

ITS JUST BLATANT HE ON THEM, no point arugein noobs who dont know anything dont make comment, i def can tell when someone on roids right away, they can hide it all they want but i know what a natural way is and how i roid body can look

Tom

01-08-2009, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by ash2006
ITS JUST BLATANT HE ON THEM, no point arugein noobs who dont know anything dont make comment, i def can tell when someone on roids right away, they can hide it all they want but i know what a natural way is and how i roid body can look

In English?

ash2006

01-08-2009, 12:04 AM

IN simple wordin, TOM ex Housemate is on roids,

themother

01-08-2009, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by ash2006
IN simple wordin, TOM ex Housemate is on roids,

This character assassination that some of you persist with is just tiresome! I guess it's just jealousy.....?

Can we just put this to bed once and for all?

TOM IS NOT ON STEROIDS!!

He had an exceptional diet and timings are vital, for example he wont eat carbs after 6pm. He uses protien shake suplimements and he does not work out excessively. (An hour a day of something - at most) He has done so for years and now its just a case of maintenance. There is probably more fat on a chip!!

He's 5' 10", weighs about 13 stone and has a 32 inch waist. He's not actually that big - just very defined - he looks so much larger on the TV than he does in the flesh and thats probably the most common comment he has had from the public since he left the house.

As for his character - he is no different now to how he was as a child!!

masonbason

01-08-2009, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by themother
Originally posted by ash2006
IN simple wordin, TOM ex Housemate is on roids,

This character assassination that some of you persist with is just tiresome! I guess it's just jealousy.....?

Can we just put this to bed once and for all?

TOM IS NOT ON STEROIDS!!

He had an exceptional diet and timings are vital, for example he wont eat carbs after 6pm. He uses protien shake suplimements and he does not work out excessively. (An hour a day of something - at most) He has done so for years and now its just a case of maintenance. There is probably more fat on a chip!!

He's 5' 10", weighs about 13 stone and has a 32 inch waist. He's not actually that big - just very defined - he looks so much larger on the TV than he does in the flesh and thats probably the most common comment he has had from the public since he left the house.

As for his character - he is no different now to how he was as a child!!

Are u a friend of Tom to know all these details or you are making assumptions?Which is it?

themother

01-08-2009, 08:19 AM

No assumptions matey - all facts!

I'm his mother!!!!

masonbason

01-08-2009, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by themother
No assumptions matey - all facts!

I'm his mother!!!!

Ok, look i dont know him, i think he looks good not in tht way, cause i go to the gym all the time. I am interested in more of his diet, and the kind of exercises he does. I am sure if he wrote an article or even a book i would be interested cause a lot of my other friends are slightly bigger than me and are roided up cannot achieve what hes done if as you say hes done through natural means.

Hence i started the thread. If you are his mother, do you think you could get some info on the kind of exercises he does etc? and how many times does he work out? What kind of protein ie. whey protein/

themother

01-08-2009, 08:34 AM

Perhaps he will write something in due course....

masonbason

01-08-2009, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by themother
Perhaps he will write something in due course....

Ok no problem i am telling you if that is natural and its not completely genetics than hes sitting on a goldmine, there are so many people in the fitness industry without that kind of body who are writing and getting well paid for telling people how to bulk up.