Does charlie deserve to win it cause of his mum? [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

The_Long_Run

02-08-2009, 01:02 AM

Charlie is highly entertaining. He does spectacularly well in spite of his Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. Had this been properly diagnosed when he was at school he would have had learning support. Sadly they just decided he was a 'naughty boy' and sat him outside the classroom.

Lovely lad and THIS doesn't make him a worthy winner but his gentle nature and good heartedness does.

Charlie:kiss:

arsenalforever

02-08-2009, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Charlie is highly entertaining. He does spectacularly well in spite of his Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. Had this been properly diagnosed when he was at school he would have had learning support. Sadly they just decided he was a 'naughty boy' and sat him outside the classroom.

Lovely lad and THIS doesn't make him a worthy winner but his gentle nature and good heartedness does.

Charlie:kiss:

but he has back stabbing side and really nasty streak to him too

SiaSiaSia

02-08-2009, 01:05 AM

I don't think anyone deserves to win just because of some factor in their life which was not in the house.

People deserve to win when they've been a good housemate.

AhmedFan2004

02-08-2009, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by Jack_
I feel sorry for him, and I hope his mum recovers soon.

However, this is Big Brother, not a ****ing charity.

The winner should be based on entertainment, not on who needs the money.
Sree then, since he ran the show when he was there. And the first month has everyone in it, including all the entertaing ones.

It's easy to stand up and look remotely entertaining now; all the bores are left!

Patrick

02-08-2009, 01:07 AM

Well considering most fans dont even use these forums there for dont even know that Charlies mum is sick, then he`ll probley still win because girls think hes "cute" or because hes entertaining, dont think anyone even knows his mum is sick

kab

02-08-2009, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by SiaSiaSia
I don't think anyone deserves to win just because of some factor in their life which was not in the house.

People deserve to win when they've been a good housemate.
absolutely , its this we should be focusing on , the person thats given US the best summers entertainment :elephant:

Celeb_Rehab

02-08-2009, 01:10 AM

No it doesn't...

Anyhow....Charlie will make plenty of money out of the spin offs...

I do wish his Mum well...it must be terrible for all of his family...

The_Long_Run

02-08-2009, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Charlie is highly entertaining. He does spectacularly well in spite of his Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. Had this been properly diagnosed when he was at school he would have had learning support. Sadly they just decided he was a 'naughty boy' and sat him outside the classroom.

Lovely lad and THIS doesn't make him a worthy winner but his gentle nature and good heartedness does.

Charlie:kiss:

but he has back stabbing side and really nasty streak to him too

To process knowledge he has a need to share it with others, it is a coping strategy that goes with his condition. Hence his absolute candour. Whatever he says about anyone in what you call 'backstabbing' is simply sharing knowledge. He always shares the fact that he has talked about it with the person about whom he was talking if you observe. Nothing backstabbing in this, just trying to establish a consensus view of what is actually going on, so that he can process it.

Jack_

02-08-2009, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Jack_
I feel sorry for him, and I hope his mum recovers soon.

However, this is Big Brother, not a ****ing charity.

The winner should be based on entertainment, not on who needs the money.
Sree then, since he ran the show when he was there. And the first month has everyone in it, including all the entertaing ones.

It's easy to stand up and look remotely entertaining now; all the bores are left!

Sree might have run the show, but I just found him extremely irritating. Something which I don't find with Marcus.

Brad.

02-08-2009, 01:13 AM

sorry to be a dopey idiot but what's wrong with his mum?

The_Long_Run

02-08-2009, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by Bradley.
sorry to be a dopey idiot but what's wrong with his mum?

Apparently she suffered a cerebral aneurism (a bleed in the brain) whilst out shopping and is comatose in hospital. This is a long term condition.

arsenalforever

02-08-2009, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by Bradley.
sorry to be a dopey idiot but what's wrong with his mum?

she's in a coma

MissKittyFantastico

02-08-2009, 01:18 AM

No.

Feel sorry for the lad and his family, but having a mum that is ill does not a Big Brother winner make.

Charlie must have told all the HM's about his mum being ill, because they all want him to win and say he needs the money. We just haven't been shown the footage of him doing this.

Brad.

02-08-2009, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Bradley.
sorry to be a dopey idiot but what's wrong with his mum?

Apparently she suffered a cerebral aneurism (a bleed in the brain) whilst out shopping and is comatose in hospital. This is a long term condition.

Oh damn, i hope she's OK

a_2009

02-08-2009, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Charlie is highly entertaining. He does spectacularly well in spite of his Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. Had this been properly diagnosed when he was at school he would have had learning support. Sadly they just decided he was a 'naughty boy' and sat him outside the classroom.

Lovely lad and THIS doesn't make him a worthy winner but his gentle nature and good heartedness does.

Charlie:kiss:

but he has back stabbing side and really nasty streak to him too

To process knowledge he has a need to share it with others, it is a coping strategy that goes with his condition. Hence his absolute candour. Whatever he says about anyone in what you call 'backstabbing' is simply sharing knowledge. He always shares the fact that he has talked about it with the person about whom he was talking if you observe. Nothing backstabbing in this, just trying to establish a consensus view of what is actually going on, so that he can process it.

Out of all of the housemates i'm hoping Charlie wins, he's a pretty down to earth guy, wants to see the best in everything and everyone.

I would however be careful when it comes to justifying someone's behaviour based on adhd....people are people, we all have good points and bad points.

Jayson

02-08-2009, 01:31 AM

I recently lost my mum, but I didn't go around my Uni shouting it out and making people give me stuff, he is over using it, it's too much like the X Factor sob stories for my liking.

The_Long_Run

02-08-2009, 01:35 AM

Excuse me, Isaac mentioning it was the first we heard of it, after EIGHT weeks. His having blown the silence BB now has to engage in damage limitation .

arsenalforever

02-08-2009, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by Jayson
I recently lost my mum, but I didn't go around my Uni shouting it out and making people give me stuff, he is over using it, it's too much like the X Factor sob stories for my liking.

sorry to hear that jay:sad: hope your doing ok?

yeah he's shouting it out to much and its not doing him any favours with the public

The_Long_Run

02-08-2009, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
I recently lost my mum, but I didn't go around my Uni shouting it out and making people give me stuff, he is over using it, it's too much like the X Factor sob stories for my liking.

sorry to hear that jay:sad: hope your doing ok?

yeah he's shouting it out to much and its not doing him any favours with the public

The only public who have heard anything about it from him are those watching LF tonight!

arsenalforever

02-08-2009, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
I recently lost my mum, but I didn't go around my Uni shouting it out and making people give me stuff, he is over using it, it's too much like the X Factor sob stories for my liking.

sorry to hear that jay:sad: hope your doing ok?

yeah he's shouting it out to much and its not doing him any favours with the public

The only public who have heard anything about it from him are those watching LF tonight!

but it does come across rather pick me to win

he's not a bad lad but not deserving to win

Jayson

02-08-2009, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
I recently lost my mum, but I didn't go around my Uni shouting it out and making people give me stuff, he is over using it, it's too much like the X Factor sob stories for my liking.

sorry to hear that jay:sad: hope your doing ok?

yeah he's shouting it out to much and its not doing him any favours with the public Yeah, it was a few weeks back now.

He needs to **** to be frank, he doesn't realise that sob stories don't win things like BB :nono:

Shasown

02-08-2009, 04:29 AM

Only people who watch live feed know about it?

Try searching The Sun newspaper site they did an article a few backs about it

arsenalforever

02-08-2009, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by Shasown
Only people who watch live feed know about it?

Try searching The Sun newspaper site they did an article a few backs about it

was it pro charlie?

Jayson

02-08-2009, 04:33 AM

I hope not arsenal :(

arsenalforever

02-08-2009, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by Jayson
I hope not arsenal :(

if he really cared he be out with her now not in the bb house:sad:

DiamondDogTags

02-08-2009, 05:07 AM

Simply put no. I remember on bb8 Carole said she was going to lose her house if she didn't win that's whya ll the contestants wanted her to win.

arsenalforever

02-08-2009, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Simply put no. I remember on bb8 Carole said she was going to lose her house if she didn't win that's whya ll the contestants wanted her to win.

he's got to many cons to pros for a winner like sophie has too

DiamondDogTags

02-08-2009, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Simply put no. I remember on bb8 Carole said she was going to lose her house if she didn't win that's whya ll the contestants wanted her to win.

he's got to many cons to pros for a winner like sophie has too

exactly I think a lot of the HM's do..

rsefitpro2009

02-08-2009, 05:15 AM

As regards to his mum I feel sorry for him, but if he won because of that sole reason, then that would be the wrong reason to vote him as a winner.

You want to vote for someone that has done something to deserve to win!

mrsme

02-08-2009, 08:44 AM

I have never heard Charlie talk about his mum being in a coma.

Sometimes people on this forum make me sick.

BBAroudtheGlobe

02-08-2009, 08:47 AM

If that's the case then bring Cairon back, his personal situation was tough.

Chuckyegg

02-08-2009, 08:47 AM

The sympathy vote might actually work against him. He will be percieved as an emotional blackmailer aswell as a snitch and a spineless mincing fairy. How sick is his mother that he can leave her for months on end?

luminoussun

02-08-2009, 08:48 AM

He told isaac about it within a day....who tells a stranger that within a day of meeting them?
He is using it and i don't like that

IsleOfWeather

02-08-2009, 09:01 AM

Charlie does not deserve to win beacuse he does not wear a tea shirt. period

The_Long_Run

02-08-2009, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Shasown
Only people who watch live feed know about it?

Try searching The Sun newspaper site they did an article a few backs about it

Re-read what I said. What I said was that the only time people have heard HIM talk about it was those watching LF last night! Hardly endorses any suggestion that he is 'milking it'.

His mother is NOT in a coma, she encouraged him to go into BB and is very proud of him as is he of her. His gentleness and being nice to everyone is him trying to justify her pride.

Daffodil

02-08-2009, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by Chuckyegg
The sympathy vote might actually work against him. He will be percieved as an emotional blackmailer aswell as a snitch and a spineless mincing fairy. How sick is his mother that he can leave her for months on end?

Spot on.

Cody™

02-08-2009, 09:05 AM

This is an entertainment show, not a sob-story emotional show!

The_Long_Run

02-08-2009, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by Cody™
This is an entertainment show, not a sob-story emotional show!

And Charlie is highly entertaining in my opinion. No need for any sympathy vote, he is just a downright GOOD human being who loves his mum. Of course he talks about her, just as Freddie constantly does about his Aerican father, as Marcus does about his having given his mother a home, as Noirin did abot her difficult relationship with her parents.

Just because Isaac mentioned it on his eviction interview, everyone is jumping on a non-existent bandwagon! If there IS a bandwagon, the chattering classes in here have created it, NOT Charlie.

Lauren

02-08-2009, 09:11 AM

Caramel77

02-08-2009, 09:12 AM

I hope he doesn't. His fakeness really annoys me. Everytime he does something that he realises may affect his chances he goes grovelling and apologises because he's desperate to not be nominated. He's as bad as Rodrigo....:yuk:

CaraRawr

02-08-2009, 09:14 AM

To be honest, I never knew about his mum and I still like him.

Lauren

02-08-2009, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by Jayson
I recently lost my mum, but I didn't go around my Uni shouting it out and making people give me stuff, he is over using it, it's too much like the X Factor sob stories for my liking.

He's only mentioned it a few times, and never synonymous with his position on the show! Of course he'd mention it, it's consumed his life for 2 years. He's hardly going to keep it secret "just in case" some no good viewers assume sympathy on his part. He's not going for ANY vote, he's telling his fellow HMs about his mum.

fix

02-08-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Chuckyegg
The sympathy vote might actually work against him. He will be percieved as an emotional blackmailer aswell as a snitch and a spineless mincing fairy. How sick is his mother that he can leave her for months on end?

Everyone with a disabled parent should be housebound, then?
you missed the point. go back and try to find it.

Lauren

02-08-2009, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by fix
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Chuckyegg
The sympathy vote might actually work against him. He will be percieved as an emotional blackmailer aswell as a snitch and a spineless mincing fairy. How sick is his mother that he can leave her for months on end?

Everyone with a disabled parent should be housebound, then?
you missed the point. go back and try to find it.

The line "How sick is his mother that he can leave her for months on end?" - Well, she's very ill. She's in a barely mobile semi-vegetative state. Doesn't mean he should stay with her, or not go into BB, does it?

marcpaygnard

02-08-2009, 09:40 AM

NO! NO! NO!

........Evict CHARLIE!!

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

The_Long_Run

02-08-2009, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by fix
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Chuckyegg
The sympathy vote might actually work against him. He will be percieved as an emotional blackmailer aswell as a snitch and a spineless mincing fairy. How sick is his mother that he can leave her for months on end?

Everyone with a disabled parent should be housebound, then?
you missed the point. go back and try to find it.

The line "How sick is his mother that he can leave her for months on end?" - Well, she's very ill. She's in a barely mobile semi-vegetative state. Doesn't mean he should stay with her, or not go into BB, does it?

Excuse me, could you tell us where you got the 'barely mobile semi-vegetative state from? Do you now the family, or have some other insider information?

I agree that he has ever right to be in the house, I also personally find him very entertaining and admire his honesty and candour. The fact the Isaac revealed the family background was intended by him to be supportive of a guy who he clearly liked, and this on brief acquaintance. It is notable that Charlie is VERY popular amongts his HMs. tells you something huh?

It is a great pity Isaac said what he did, but I don't condemn him for it. He also seemed like a good sort and was well-intentioned, as Siavash acknowledged (more power to him for that).

Marzy

02-08-2009, 09:49 AM

Reminds me of the X Factor where someone comes on with a sob story. That immediately puts me off.

Charlie MUST NOT win!!

Lauren

02-08-2009, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Excuse me, could you tell us where you got the 'barely mobile semi-vegetative state from? Do you now the family, or have some other insider information?

Didn't Charlie himself say she could not walk, and in some days barely recognised him as her son?

Tenantry

02-08-2009, 10:26 AM

What was he on last night? He was gabbering on at about a million miles an hour.

PooBay

02-08-2009, 10:28 AM

No.

Beastie

02-08-2009, 10:29 AM

no

freddie to win :)

nickc25

02-08-2009, 10:31 AM

He will probably win because of the great british society (the world owes me) but he does not deserve to at all, let alone just because his mum is sick. My mum is sick, I am sick too but that does not mean society owes me,

kisywisy

02-08-2009, 10:36 AM

he shouldn't win it just because of his mum and i don't think he will.

if he wins it, it'll be because of how he's acted in the house. i didn't know about his mum until someone on here mentioned it.

he might talk about his mum on the show, but who wouldn't?? the other hm talk about their families and marcus has brought up his bad childhood on numerous times. if the hm feel sorry for him about his situation, then that's up to them. we also don't know how often he talks about his mother. i don't think that charlie would ever use him mum as a way to try and win big brother

kisywisy

02-08-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Excuse me, could you tell us where you got the 'barely mobile semi-vegetative state from? Do you now the family, or have some other insider information?

Didn't Charlie himself say she could not walk, and in some days barely recognised him as her son?

she's in a coma and has been for 2 years due to a brain aneurysm

Lauren

02-08-2009, 10:38 AM

Striptease

02-08-2009, 10:40 AM

No but I'm sure if Freddie wins he will give some money to Charlie coz he's already rich.

kisywisy

02-08-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Cody™
This is an entertainment show, not a sob-story emotional show!

And Charlie is highly entertaining in my opinion. No need for any sympathy vote, he is just a downright GOOD human being who loves his mum. Of course he talks about her, just as Freddie constantly does about his Aerican father, as Marcus does about his having given his mother a home, as Noirin did abot her difficult relationship with her parents.

Just because Isaac mentioned it on his eviction interview, everyone is jumping on a non-existent bandwagon! If there IS a bandwagon, the chattering classes in here have created it, NOT Charlie.

totally agree!!:thumbs:

kisywisy

02-08-2009, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Excuse me, could you tell us where you got the 'barely mobile semi-vegetative state from? Do you now the family, or have some other insider information?

Didn't Charlie himself say she could not walk, and in some days barely recognised him as her son?

she's in a coma and has been for 2 years due to a brain aneurysm

It's not a full coma, she's still aware of the surroundings and recognises faces.

there are different coma states. someone could be in a coma and still walk about and eat and drink, but not be aware of surroundings etc

found this article that explains it better

http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec16/ch212/ch212b.html

EDIT people should look up locked in syndrome too. pretty interesting stuff. watched a programme about it a while back

NettoSuperstar!

02-08-2009, 10:48 AM

No Effin way!

gavinh2008

02-08-2009, 10:59 AM

He doesn't deserve to win period.

I really don't like him, he is a conniving snitch, and to win the BB show would be like letting a bully at school win an award for Good Behaviour. Charlie isn't a bully, but he's definetly fake, and on BB Live last night when he said he didn't want to win, he just wanted to make his mum proud, he was rambling for way too long, it really puts me off when they say they don't want to win but they actually do.

muchadoaboutnothing

02-08-2009, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Excuse me, could you tell us where you got the 'barely mobile semi-vegetative state from? Do you now the family, or have some other insider information?

Didn't Charlie himself say she could not walk, and in some days barely recognised him as her son?

she's in a coma and has been for 2 years due to a brain aneurysm

That is terribly sad. A friend of mine was in a coma due to a brain aneurysm for five months until finally (with relief) passing away. This has more than likely already been said but if my mother was in a coma I don't think I'd want to be in the house, on the other hand life has to go on. So I'm kinda on the fence. however I don't think Charlie should get the sympathy vote because of his mothers situation and win as a result.