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Big_Kahuna
02-08-2009, 02:32 AM
Ronseal, exactly what it says on the tin. Who like Bea?

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 02:34 AM
Bea isn't doing Freddie favours(although to me he hasn't changed)

She has to go this week but i think she be in to the end

a_2009
02-08-2009, 02:36 AM
Personally, no. I often switch the channel when she starts going off on one of her know it all rants.

kisywisy
02-08-2009, 02:41 AM
not me!!

she's a horrible person

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by kisywisy
not me!!

she's a horrible person

she is but no one in the house see's it

Jayson
02-08-2009, 02:45 AM
I really really don't.

Big_Kahuna
02-08-2009, 02:46 AM
I think Bea thinks she knows everything about the world, but shes a gimpy little low rate sophie, who thinks she can manipulate the british public. she's obviously watched the show and thinks she knows it all, but her cracks are starting to show. silly little girl lol

golden
02-08-2009, 02:47 AM
Not a chance...she's still talking..lol..Freddster looks half asleep!

scot
02-08-2009, 02:47 AM
she'l do for now.

Big_Kahuna
02-08-2009, 02:48 AM
just goes to show first impressions dont count !

MissKittyFantastico
02-08-2009, 02:48 AM
Nope.

Want to keep her in for a couple more weeks though.

Would like to see Lisa and David go before her tbh.

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Nope.

Want to keep her in for a couple more weeks though.

Would like to see Lisa and David go before her tbh.

i think she needs to go now

Big_Kahuna
02-08-2009, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Nope.

Want to keep her in for a couple more weeks though.

Would like to see Lisa and David go before her tbh.

deffo, i get you on keep her in. she will make things more fun. but PLEASE don't give a bitch like her a big head lol

MissKittyFantastico
02-08-2009, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Nope.

Want to keep her in for a couple more weeks though.

Would like to see Lisa and David go before her tbh.

i think she needs to go now

Nah, I don't like her but she's a strong character and we can't have ALL the strong characters leaving with 4 weeks still to go!

Get rid of Lisa, she's dodged being up so many times it's unreal.

Or David who is basically the male version of Lisa.

Or Hira, who, nice girl or not, has had NO impact at all since she came in the house.

Big_Kahuna
02-08-2009, 02:51 AM
also, hira needs a finale eviction. dont waste a friday night one on her, so get Bea out before then!

MissKittyFantastico
02-08-2009, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by Big_Kahuna
also, hira needs a finale eviction. dont waste a friday night one on her, so get Bea out before then!

True that actually lol, what would they find to talk about for 20 minutes in a regular Friday night eviction?! :joker:

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Nope.

Want to keep her in for a couple more weeks though.

Would like to see Lisa and David go before her tbh.

i think she needs to go now

Nah, I don't like her but she's a strong character and we can't have ALL the strong characters leaving with 4 weeks still to go!

Get rid of Lisa, she's dodged being up so many times it's unreal.

Or David who is basically the male version of Lisa.

Or Hira, who, nice girl or not, has had NO impact at all since she came in the house.

she's ruining Freddie's chances and i don't want that

Tom4784
02-08-2009, 03:06 AM
She's my favourite, I find her to be an engaging housemate and rather essential to keep the house dynamics interesting. She has got a bitchy side (Everyone has though, if someone says they don't then they are lying).

The fact she isn't a simplistic character is a large part of why I like her.

scot
02-08-2009, 03:10 AM
Bea's okay. shes got balls and thats a good trick for the house right now. shes a good girl who dont mind punching out a bit. luck to her.

Big_Kahuna
02-08-2009, 03:14 AM
i hope all these rumours of Bea being a endemol spy aren't true, surely davina wouldn't do this to us

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by scot
Bea's okay. shes got balls and thats a good trick for the house right now. shes a good girl who dont mind punching out a bit. luck to her.

If you r aFredie fan she's not helping him

but if your not she's good tv

i'm a freddie fan so i want to see the back of her:laugh:

scot
02-08-2009, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by scot
Bea's okay. shes got balls and thats a good trick for the house right now. shes a good girl who dont mind punching out a bit. luck to her.

If you r aFredie fan she's not helping him

but if your not she's good tv

i'm a freddie fan so i want to see the back of her:laugh:


i hear you buddy...kinda agree re freddie all the way and etc...but i dunno, just recently i been going off the fredster, he's losing it big time?

scot
02-08-2009, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by scot
Bea's okay. shes got balls and thats a good trick for the house right now. shes a good girl who dont mind punching out a bit. luck to her.

If you r aFredie fan she's not helping him

but if your not she's good tv

i'm a freddie fan so i want to see the back of her:laugh:


i hear you buddy...kinda agree re freddie all the way and etc...but i dunno, just recently i been going off the fredster, he's losing it big time?

scot
02-08-2009, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by scot
Bea's okay. shes got balls and thats a good trick for the house right now. shes a good girl who dont mind punching out a bit. luck to her.

If you r aFredie fan she's not helping him

but if your not she's good tv

i'm a freddie fan so i want to see the back of her:laugh:


i hear you buddy...kinda agree re freddie all the way and etc...but i dunno, just recently i been going off the fredster, he's losing it big time?

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by scot
Bea's okay. shes got balls and thats a good trick for the house right now. shes a good girl who dont mind punching out a bit. luck to her.

If you r aFredie fan she's not helping him

but if your not she's good tv

i'm a freddie fan so i want to see the back of her:laugh:


i hear you buddy...kinda agree re freddie all the way and etc...but i dunno, just recently i been going off the fredster, he's losing it big time?

i think its down to Bea and if just keeps away fromher he be ok

ManicWolf
02-08-2009, 03:59 AM
Not particulary, I don't dislike her in the same way I do Lisa, but I certainly don't like her anymore like I did the first few days she was in.

DiamondDogTags
02-08-2009, 04:03 AM
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks crap.

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks cr*p.

i think she needs to go too cocky right now

DiamondDogTags
02-08-2009, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks cr*p.

i think she needs to go too cocky right now

I want them to throw in a girl who will become the alpha female. Lisa is taking a back seat so Bea is powerful right now. She needs to go.

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks cr*p.

i think she needs to go too cocky right now

I want them to throw in a girl who will become the alpha female. Lisa is taking a back seat so Bea is powerful right now. She needs to go.

i Don't think they throw in another Hm now

She's not as powerful as i taught she is

She's pushing Freddie out of the picture which Freddie won't lik

lisa david and Hira don't like her

Siavash and Rodrigo are not quite fans of hers and charlie might nom her

Jayson
02-08-2009, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks cr*p.

i think she needs to go too cocky right now

I want them to throw in a girl who will become the alpha female. Lisa is taking a back seat so Bea is powerful right now. She needs to go.

i Don't think they throw in another Hm now

She's not as powerful as i taught she is

She's pushing Freddie out of the picture which Freddie won't lik

lisa david and Hira don't like her

Siavash and Rodrigo are not quite fans of hers and charlie might nom her Actually, when you think about it her chances of being nommed are quite high :thumbs2:

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by Jayson
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks cr*p.

i think she needs to go too cocky right now

I want them to throw in a girl who will become the alpha female. Lisa is taking a back seat so Bea is powerful right now. She needs to go.

i Don't think they throw in another Hm now

She's not as powerful as i taught she is

She's pushing Freddie out of the picture which Freddie won't lik

lisa david and Hira don't like her

Siavash and Rodrigo are not quite fans of hers and charlie might nom her Actually, when you think about it her chances of being nommed are quite high :thumbs2:

yep its looking likely but you never know she might be loved in there

DiamondDogTags
02-08-2009, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks cr*p.

i think she needs to go too cocky right now

I want them to throw in a girl who will become the alpha female. Lisa is taking a back seat so Bea is powerful right now. She needs to go.

i Don't think they throw in another Hm now

She's not as powerful as i taught she is

She's pushing Freddie out of the picture which Freddie won't lik

lisa david and Hira don't like her

Siavash and Rodrigo are not quite fans of hers and charlie might nom her

True but I think she thinks she's well loved. Do you think a time will come that Freddie nominates her? he gets pissed off at her sometimes, but I never know if it's enough for her to be nominated.

Jayson
02-08-2009, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks cr*p.

i think she needs to go too cocky right now

I want them to throw in a girl who will become the alpha female. Lisa is taking a back seat so Bea is powerful right now. She needs to go.

i Don't think they throw in another Hm now

She's not as powerful as i taught she is

She's pushing Freddie out of the picture which Freddie won't lik

lisa david and Hira don't like her

Siavash and Rodrigo are not quite fans of hers and charlie might nom her Actually, when you think about it her chances of being nommed are quite high :thumbs2:

yep its looking likely but you never know she might be loved in there Hopefully the HM's are seeing her for who she really is :dance:

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks cr*p.

i think she needs to go too cocky right now

I want them to throw in a girl who will become the alpha female. Lisa is taking a back seat so Bea is powerful right now. She needs to go.

i Don't think they throw in another Hm now

She's not as powerful as i taught she is

She's pushing Freddie out of the picture which Freddie won't lik

lisa david and Hira don't like her

Siavash and Rodrigo are not quite fans of hers and charlie might nom her

True but I think she thinks she's well loved. Do you think a time will come that Freddie nominates her? he gets p****d off at her sometimes, but I never know if it's enough for her to be nominated.

if she ignores him and doesn't talk to him Freddie might cop on she was using him.

she told him on Lf tonight she doesn't want to hang with him too much now

Claymores
02-08-2009, 04:22 AM
I like Queen Bea Jayson - she's gonna take Halfar$e down when tells him absolutely no chance of getting inside her knickers :thumbs:

DiamondDogTags
02-08-2009, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
I don't I think she's quite dull (so she rides Freddie's coat tails), poser, insincere and just in general talks cr*p.

i think she needs to go too cocky right now

I want them to throw in a girl who will become the alpha female. Lisa is taking a back seat so Bea is powerful right now. She needs to go.

i Don't think they throw in another Hm now

She's not as powerful as i taught she is

She's pushing Freddie out of the picture which Freddie won't lik

lisa david and Hira don't like her

Siavash and Rodrigo are not quite fans of hers and charlie might nom her

True but I think she thinks she's well loved. Do you think a time will come that Freddie nominates her? he gets p****d off at her sometimes, but I never know if it's enough for her to be nominated.

if she ignores him and doesn't talk to him Freddie might cop on she was using him.

she told him on Lf tonight she doesn't want to hang with him too much now

Ooooh... The girl is cracked in the head. I hope he wisens up, I like the scheming analytical Freddie not the one trying to bang Bea. If she's up this week I might vote for her, depends if she's up against Lisa then It's a win-win situation.

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by Claymores
I like Queen Bea Jayson - she's gonna take Halfar$e down when tells him absolutely no chance of getting inside her knickers :thumbs:

BEa is a nasty ho who's shown her knickers to a few guys already

and she's dead ugly too:yuk:

Jayson
02-08-2009, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by Claymores
I like Queen Bea Jayson - she's gonna take Halfar$e down when tells him absolutely no chance of getting inside her knickers :thumbs: More cons than pros buddy :joker:

NeoPhoenix
02-08-2009, 04:35 AM
I can't stand her, honestly. I liked her at first, but she seems to want to get in everyone's business when it doesn't even involve her. She thinks she's smart (in regards to the game), but I think she's getting very cocky and I think some of the HMS are picking up on it a bit. I think that she thinks she's coming off well to the public but she's tarnishing her image every day and is coming off as even more of a bitch than Lisa has been.

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by NeoPhoenix
I can't stand her, honestly. I liked her at first, but she seems to want to get in everyone's business when it doesn't even involve her. She thinks she's smart (in regards to the game), but I think she's getting very cocky and I think some of the HMS are picking up on it a bit. I think that she thinks she's coming off well to the public but she's tarnishing her image every day and is coming off as even more of a bitch than Lisa has been.

if it came up if lisa and Bea were up for eviction i'd vote Bea out before Lisa

Jayson
02-08-2009, 04:37 AM
Your award looks great arsenal :hello:

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by Jayson
Your award looks great arsenal :hello:

what is it?:shrug:

Jayson
02-08-2009, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
Your award looks great arsenal :hello:

what is it?:shrug: Its an award to signify that you have made 10,000 posts, you get them for other stuff like TiBB games ect :thumbs:

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by Jayson
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
Your award looks great arsenal :hello:

what is it?:shrug: Its an award to signify that you have made 10,000 posts, you get them for other stuff like TiBB games ect :thumbs:

oh cool:thumbs:

i taught i might get a season ticket to arsenal's home games:joker:

Jayson
02-08-2009, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
Your award looks great arsenal :hello:

what is it?:shrug: Its an award to signify that you have made 10,000 posts, you get them for other stuff like TiBB games ect :thumbs:

oh cool:thumbs:

i taught i might get a season ticket to arsenal's home games:joker: Marks a tight ass ain't he? :hugesmile:

I'm off to beddy byes na-night :wavey:

Claymores
02-08-2009, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Claymores
I like Queen Bea Jayson - she's gonna take Halfar$e down when tells him absolutely no chance of getting inside her knickers :thumbs:

BEa is a nasty ho who's shown her knickers to a few guys already

and she's dead ugly too:yuk:

Oh arse - you're worried ain't ya:laugh2: You're gonna concentrate on get Bea out to save your fave :laugh2:

arsenalforever
02-08-2009, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Claymores
I like Queen Bea Jayson - she's gonna take Halfar$e down when tells him absolutely no chance of getting inside her knickers :thumbs:

BEa is a nasty ho who's shown her knickers to a few guys already

and she's dead ugly too:yuk:

Oh arse - you're worried ain't ya:laugh2: You're gonna concentrate on get Bea out to save your fave :laugh2:

yep:laugh2:
she's gone soon anyway

Claymores
02-08-2009, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by Jayson
Your award looks great arsenal :hello:

what is it?:shrug: Its an award to signify that you have made 10,000 posts, you get them for other stuff like TiBB games ect :thumbs:

oh cool:thumbs:

i taught i might get a season ticket to arsenal's home games:joker:
My brother is a HUGE arsenal fan - via web fan he gets tixs for the Emirates sometimes, and tix for all the games up North that are closer to Scotland

sl3ptsolong
02-08-2009, 04:49 AM
Yeh I like Bea I think she's an amazing person. I listened to her tonight talk for ages about kids in Africa. She obviously cares alot for people and it isnt an act as many have claimed on here.

Claymores
02-08-2009, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by sl3ptsolong
Yeh I like Bea I think she's an amazing person. I listened to her tonight talk for ages about kids in Africa. She obviously cares alot for people and it isnt an act as many have claimed on here.

will she adopt a Milawian then like Madonna?

Jayson
02-08-2009, 04:58 AM
Meh, I ain't gonna go offline actually, wanna get to 5500 first :dazzler:

Claymores
02-08-2009, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by Jayson
Meh, I ain't gonna go offline actually, wanna get to 5500 first :dazzler:
Just post bollox like you usually do:tongue:

Homogoldfish
02-08-2009, 09:12 AM
I don't like her but she is a necessary housemate.

BJ
02-08-2009, 10:10 AM
Getting straight to the point

YES I like Bea.

Marzy
02-08-2009, 10:13 AM
Can't stand the little madam. She is an uppercrust bully and is very clever about it. I do hope she goes very soon.

BB22
02-08-2009, 10:19 AM
I kind of like watching her on the programme so I hope she is not evicted any time soon. I am not sure I could put up with her in real life, but you never know.

Personally, I don't buy any of these Machiavellian analyses of Bea's behaviour. I think such interpretations are simply inconsistent. There is nothing remotely Machiavellian in Bea's behaviour; the exact opposite from what I can see. She speaks her mind, with probably too much brutal honesty. The woman seems pretty fearless when it comes to saying what she thinks and starting arguments.

dannyb
02-08-2009, 10:22 AM
She's by far the smartest housemate in there - possibly the smartest for a few years.

It's when I see Charlie in the diary room giggling like a girl, cos he can barley read or count - I'm glad Bea is in the house:)

Shasown
02-08-2009, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by BB22
I kind of like watching her on the programme so I hope she is not evicted any time soon. I am not sure I could put up with her in real life, but you never know.

Personally, I don't buy any of these Machiavellian analyses of Bea's behaviour. I think such interpretations are simply inconsistent. There is nothing remotely Machiavellian in Bea's behaviour; the exact opposite from what I can see. She speaks her mind, with probably too much brutal honesty. The woman seems pretty fearless when it comes to saying what she thinks and starting arguments.

Am amused though that her "arguements" and "saying what she thinks" seems to echo the general concensus of forums like this.

nickc25
02-08-2009, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by kisywisy
not me!!

she's a horrible person

she is but no one in the house see's it

I think people do see it and are biding their time. Marcus definitely sees it you can tell but he would be a fool to go against her at the moment. Siavash does too.


I like her in some ways and others I do not, she is entertaining though and it would be really boring without her so she should be kept in until the last week and then booted on the wednesday.

cassieparis
02-08-2009, 10:48 AM
If it weren't for Bea I'd probably stop watching.
She's dangerous and manipluative and not a particularly nice game player but none the less very entertaining.
Despite having maybe a misguided game, she still got one!

Would have loved to seen her and Issac engage in combat till the death. :colour:
Their nod at acknowledging each other as equal opponents in the kitchen was marvelous.

NettoSuperstar!
02-08-2009, 10:49 AM
Yes...she says exactly what Im thinking

yousoboo!
02-08-2009, 10:49 AM
bea just speaks the truth.

NettoSuperstar!
02-08-2009, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by yousoboo!
bea just speaks the truth.

Exactly and there are times when the truth needs to be said loudly and clearly!

Hedgie
02-08-2009, 10:51 AM
I'd invite her to dinner :thumbs:

BB22
02-08-2009, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by BB22
I kind of like watching her on the programme so I hope she is not evicted any time soon. I am not sure I could put up with her in real life, but you never know.

Personally, I don't buy any of these Machiavellian analyses of Bea's behaviour. I think such interpretations are simply inconsistent. There is nothing remotely Machiavellian in Bea's behaviour; the exact opposite from what I can see. She speaks her mind, with probably too much brutal honesty. The woman seems pretty fearless when it comes to saying what she thinks and starting arguments.

Am amused though that her "arguements" and "saying what she thinks" seems to echo the general concensus of forums like this.

While it is quite conceivable that someone might speak and act in such a way as to try to "accord" with their best guess of what people outside the House think on a matter, all the evidence suggests that such an endeavour becomes more and more difficult with each day that passes in the House. So unless she has sneaked a laptop or an iPhone in there I am rather dubious about your implication.

NettoSuperstar!
02-08-2009, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by BB22
I kind of like watching her on the programme so I hope she is not evicted any time soon. I am not sure I could put up with her in real life, but you never know.

Personally, I don't buy any of these Machiavellian analyses of Bea's behaviour. I think such interpretations are simply inconsistent. There is nothing remotely Machiavellian in Bea's behaviour; the exact opposite from what I can see. She speaks her mind, with probably too much brutal honesty. The woman seems pretty fearless when it comes to saying what she thinks and starting arguments.

Am amused though that her "arguements" and "saying what she thinks" seems to echo the general concensus of forums like this.

While it is quite conceivable that someone might speak and act in such a way as to try to "accord" with their best guess of what people outside the House think on a matter, all the evidence suggests that such an endeavour becomes more and more difficult with each day that passes in the House. So unless she has sneaked a laptop or an iPhone in there I am rather dubious about your implication.

Exactly BB22. I think in all honesty she is standing up for what she believes in. Ok shes cutting in a lot of how she says things, but most of what she says its spot on. I dont think thats second guessing what we think all the time.

muchadoaboutnothing
02-08-2009, 11:22 AM
Straight to the point, does anyone like Bea?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o.

DrunkerThanMoses
02-08-2009, 11:25 AM
Yes, as much as like eating my own ****! :rolleyes:

fuzzylovin
02-08-2009, 12:49 PM
Bea is great she makes good watching, i like that she has the balls to say what she thinks, and i love how she is making the housemates go against each other, noirin was her last victum now shes turned on david and lisa.

loomy
02-08-2009, 12:51 PM
SHE DOESN'T SAY WHAT SHE THINKS

She's a two faced coward. She couldn't say to Noirin's face that they were doing the protest in the DR and she didn't tell her about her 'M' T shirt, not even when Issac asked - and I noticed she'd hidden it under a waistcoat.

ange7
02-08-2009, 12:57 PM
I'm loving Bea

28thapril
02-08-2009, 01:03 PM
All the time she's directing sh*t at Lisa i like her i want lisa up for noms so we can get her out at last:thumbs::xyxwave::xyxwave: