should dole spongers like lisa

[londoner2009]

be allowed in the big brother house


all wrong

[superfanno1]

I agree entirely.

[Tenantry]

Can she still sign on in the house? Or has she got a mate on the outside claiming for her pretending to be her? :joker:

[Claymores]

should trolls be allowed on TIBB?

[BB_Eye]

Isn't Siavash unemployed too?

[The_Long_Run]

I guess it's up to them whether they like her or not. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[jet]

Should Mummy and Daddy spongers like Freddie be allowed in the BB house? I don't see why not. Stop picking on Lisa, for heaven's sake. :whistle:

[loomy]

she was only on the dole 4 months before coming in

it's not easy finding a job in a recession and the west midlands has one of the highest unemployent rates

I wish people would get some perspective instead of being so quick to judge

[Showstopper]

also she looks like a smack head

[Beastie]

perfect role models in the house.... dont work a day at all in your life but when an opportunity like big brother comes along.. sponge it for all it worth for your own selfish reasons!

nah dont bother paying taxes!! just sponge of the british public! thanks for that!

maybe siavash is unemployed! but being unemployed and sponging off taxes for 20 years is dispicable!!!!!

[Beastie]

unless lisa tried her VERY hardest to find a job every single day when she was unemployed.. but nah!! bet she spent her days boozing and smoking!! and waiting for her dole money to come through!

[jet]

Originally posted by Showstopper
also she looks like a smack head

You sound like an idiot.

[loomy]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
perfect role models in the house.... dont work a day at all in your life but when an opportunity like big brother comes along.. sponge it for all it worth for your own selfish reasons!

nah dont bother paying taxes!! just sponge of the british public! thanks for that!

maybe siavash is unemployed! but being unemployed and sponging off taxes for 20 years is dispicable!!!!!
Sounds a bit like your precious Freddie; only he was lucky enough to have rich parents.

[StevieGeire]

lisa deserves to be in the house if she needs dole money so what she has a right to it.

[ange7]

how long has she been on the dole? I don't mind them but if you've been on the dole for more than a year then clearly your being too picky about what work you accept. I don't think it should matter when deciding if she'd be an interesting hm. Hate her guts but she's been good to watch from time to time.

[cookiemonster]

some of you need to get over yourselves, seriously. and stop going on about other peoples lives.

[Claymores]

being unemployed and sponging off taxes for 20 years is dispicable!!!!!
Explain your expert insights into her circumstances or are you slating a human being based upon hearsay?

Can you put your tax return and medical records online so I can inspect them ppurleeese twonk

[InOne]

I think Bea was annoyed about her being on the dole because Lisa was making excuses, like there are no trains or buses and finds it hard to get places stuff like that.

[londoner2009]

Originally posted by ange7
how long has she been on the dole? I don't mind them but if you've been on the dole for more than a year then clearly your being too picky about what work you accept. I don't think it should matter when deciding if she'd be an interesting hm. Hate her guts but she's been good to watch from time to time.

21 years

playing the system a good'un

[Claymores]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
unless lisa tried her VERY hardest to find a job every single day when she was unemployed.. but nah!! bet she spent her days boozing and smoking!! and waiting for her dole money to come through!

Come on get yer tax return and medical records oot so we can judge just as you've obviously judged Lisa from expert viewpoint - go for it twonk

[cookiemonster]

anyone that's been out of work for that long will have underlying reasons. psychological ones most probably.

[hels.a]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by bbfanatic
perfect role models in the house.... dont work a day at all in your life but when an opportunity like big brother comes along.. sponge it for all it worth for your own selfish reasons!

nah dont bother paying taxes!! just sponge of the british public! thanks for that!

maybe siavash is unemployed! but being unemployed and sponging off taxes for 20 years is dispicable!!!!!
Sounds a bit like your precious Freddie; only he was lucky enough to have rich parents.

Unlike Lisa, Freddie is actually doing something with his life, trying to start a career and getting into business. Lisa doesn't even try to stick up for herself, she knows shes a bum.

[quantocks]

Lisa is a bum, if in 20 years you can't find ONE SINGLE JOB, you are a waste of space.

kick her off the dole.

[Showstopper]

Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by Showstopper
also she looks like a smack head

You sound like an idiot.

Thanks for taking the time to share :pat:

I Think Mammys calling you for dinner:xyxwave:

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by loomy
she was only on the dole 4 months before coming in

it's not easy finding a job in a recession and the west midlands has one of the highest unemployent rates

I wish people would get some perspective instead of being so quick to judge

Well said loomy. I live in the West Midlands and worked for a company for over 16 years until I was made redundant 5 years ago. I have not worked since and it was not fot the want of trying. But as a disabled person (which I am) and aged 54 it is almost impossible to get a job regardless of experience and qualifications. I wouldn't like to think that I am sponging. So why shouldn't Lisa be in the house?

[28thapril]

At the end of the day she don't get any money all the time she's in the house coz she can't prove that she's looking for work!!!!

Just means big brother is paying for her instead:puzzled:

[Claymores]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Originally posted by loomy
she was only on the dole 4 months before coming in

it's not easy finding a job in a recession and the west midlands has one of the highest unemployent rates

I wish people would get some perspective instead of being so quick to judge

Well said loomy. I live in the West Midlands and worked for a company for over 16 years until I was made redundant 5 years ago. I have not worked since and it was not fot the want of trying. But as a disabled person (which I am) and aged 54 it is almost impossible to get a job regardless of experience and qualifications. I wouldn't like to think that I am sponging. So why shouldn't Lisa be in the house?
Not from West Midlands but :thumbs:

[Beastie]

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by bbfanatic
unless lisa tried her VERY hardest to find a job every single day when she was unemployed.. but nah!! bet she spent her days boozing and smoking!! and waiting for her dole money to come through!

Come on get yer tax return and medical records oot so we can judge just as you've obviously judged Lisa from expert viewpoint - go for it twonk

i have worked more than lisa! thats for sure!!

and its just my opinion!!

i dont mind people being on the dole because it is hard to find a job! but only if they get off their backside and keep looking for jobs! and dont spend their days boozing and smoking!

[cookiemonster]

JSA is only £46 a week or something, hardly enough to go boozing and smoking. plus you can't be on it for 21 years, they wouldn't let you. they'd make you find a job. she must be on other benefits.

[Hedgie]

No more or less so than rich tax evaders. I'd rather have a go at loaded polititians spending MY cash on a moat, than the thousands of "scroungers" that live in poverty and can't see a way out because the big money polititians can't run a country for anything other than self gain. You tell me we aren't stiill under the rule of the landed gentry!

[thepeaguy]

Originally posted by londoner2009
be allowed in the big brother house


all wrong

Why not? She's working hard at shitstirring for the £100,000 prize.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by bbfanatic
unless lisa tried her VERY hardest to find a job every single day when she was unemployed.. but nah!! bet she spent her days boozing and smoking!! and waiting for her dole money to come through!

Come on get yer tax return and medical records oot so we can judge just as you've obviously judged Lisa from expert viewpoint - go for it twonk

i have worked more than lisa! thats for sure!!

and its just my opinion!!

i dont mind people being on the dole because it is hard to find a job! but only if they get off their backside and keep looking for jobs! and dont spend their days boozing and smoking!
You make me puke quite frankly - idiot of highest order - give me your tax return and medical records so I can see if I paid for your life this year

[thepeaguy]

Just to add that you can be on benefits and work, you know. :xyxwave:

[InOne]

It does not matter if you are on the dole or not. How do you know what Lisa does with her time? She may other problems, like other people said, you just be on JSA for 20 years, she must be on something else.

[cookiemonster]

what about if you volunteer whilst you're on benefits? that's what i did. i worked full days for free. at a family centre that needed volunteers like me. you shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush, and you can't comment unless you've been on benefits and know what it's like. no one lives the good life on benefits.

[Beastie]

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by bbfanatic
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by bbfanatic
unless lisa tried her VERY hardest to find a job every single day when she was unemployed.. but nah!! bet she spent her days boozing and smoking!! and waiting for her dole money to come through!

Come on get yer tax return and medical records oot so we can judge just as you've obviously judged Lisa from expert viewpoint - go for it twonk

i have worked more than lisa! thats for sure!!

and its just my opinion!!

i dont mind people being on the dole because it is hard to find a job! but only if they get off their backside and keep looking for jobs! and dont spend their days boozing and smoking!
You make me puke quite frankly - idiot of highest order - give me your tax return and medical records so I can see if I paid for your life this year

for my life? what the hell??

what the hell have i said wrong?? at the end of the day yes.. politicans have sent this country in turmoil!! but still.. if you havnt got a job you have to keep finding one!!

why am i an idiot??

[NadiasWilly]

It's irrelevant whether she is on the dole. BB is about all walks of life.

And hopefully being on BB will get her off the dole. So that should make you happy.

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

She's been unemployed for 4 months and it's hard to find work these days, cut her some slack. Siavash isn't unemployed btw, He's an events organiser. Karly and Hira are also unemployed

[thepeaguy]

Originally posted by cookiemonster
what about if you volunteer whilst you're on benefits? that's what i did. i worked full days for free. at a family centre that needed volunteers like me. you shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush, and you can't comment unless you've been on benefits and know what it's like. no one lives the good life on benefits.

Or you could get a paid job for 16 hours max while you're on certain benefits.

But yeah, all this dole bashing is ****ing old, imo.

[londoner2009]

if she wins the money should go back to the system

[cookiemonster]

Originally posted by thepeaguy
Originally posted by cookiemonster
what about if you volunteer whilst you're on benefits? that's what i did. i worked full days for free. at a family centre that needed volunteers like me. you shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush, and you can't comment unless you've been on benefits and know what it's like. no one lives the good life on benefits.

Or you could get a paid job for 16 hours max while you're on certain benefits.

But yeah, all this dole bashing is ****ing old, imo.
people are jealous they have to work is what it comes down to. except they don't know they have it a lot better than people on benefits.

[SoFarSoGood282]

Since we're in a recession, I don't see a problem letting people who are on the dole into the house! My boyfriend was made reduntant in Feb and hasn't been able to find work since......why shouldn't people like him be allowed into the house???:mad::mad:

[Shasown]

She will either have been claiming Jobseekers or Income Support, either way she would probably have been entitled to Housing and council tax benefits.


She could also have claimed Disability Allowance depending on her circumstances instead of JSA/IS

[londoner2009]

anyone who can't find a job in 20 odd years is a waste of space

playing the system

[Beastie]

when i was 17 i was on the job allowance for a few months!! but every single day i was trying to find work!!
sorry i have been complaining about lisa and now you will think i sound like im a hypocrite but no!! like i said...... if you look for work EVERYDAY and you are on the dole then its acceptable!!!!!

i can see why bea is pissed off.. when lisa is restricting herself.. going places because she cant drive!! i had to take the bus!! and all that before i could drive!!

[Claymores]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by bbfanatic
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by bbfanatic
unless lisa tried her VERY hardest to find a job every single day when she was unemployed.. but nah!! bet she spent her days boozing and smoking!! and waiting for her dole money to come through!

Come on get yer tax return and medical records oot so we can judge just as you've obviously judged Lisa from expert viewpoint - go for it twonk

i have worked more than lisa! thats for sure!!

and its just my opinion!!

i dont mind people being on the dole because it is hard to find a job! but only if they get off their backside and keep looking for jobs! and dont spend their days boozing and smoking!
You make me puke quite frankly - idiot of highest order - give me your tax return and medical records so I can see if I paid for your life this year

for my life? what the hell??

what the hell have i said wrong?? at the end of the day yes.. politicans have sent this country in turmoil!! but still.. if you havnt got a job you have to keep finding one!!

why am i an idiot??
Because you are the expert that knows Lisa doesn't bother finding a job - you know all about her benefits and have judged her - you really make me throw up twonk - get yer tax return & medical record oot........come on

[Beastie]

and i heard.. that lisa received 15 grand.. im not sure from where but someone posted that on here the other week!!

i wonder where that money went??

well im not the only one judging!! WHY ARE YOU PIN POINTING ME!!

when i have had a job i have paid tax!! and medically and i have not had anything severly wrong with me lol

[thepeaguy]

I have to say I'm somewhat enjoying the taxfree lifestyle I have so far. :hello:

[Beastie]

the people are going to destroy each other before the world destroys us!

[NadiasWilly]

Well she got off her ass to apply for the show and go through the relentless audition process. So she clearly has some drive and ambition.

She is making an effort to change her life. Isn't that what you want?

Silly me, you just want to bash her.

[Beastie]

yeah but why not use that ambition and drive to also find a job!!

i dont want to bash anyone! im just making opinions!!

i dont get why im the only one being pin pointed!! jeeeeez

[Shasown]

Nah she was a push through, BB steer her through the show, because the third part of the love story is about to begin.

Lisa's ex girlfriend is going in, apparently not too willingly

[NadiasWilly]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
yeah but why not use that ambition and drive to also find a job!!

i dont want to bash anyone! im just making opinions!!

i dont get why im the only one being pin pointed!! jeeeeez

Calm down. I was actually referring to the OP.

BB will change her life one way or another so at least it will break the pattern. People get stuck in their ways.

[Beastie]

yeah lisa is very lucky to actually be chosen to go on big brother!!

while most of us are stuck in the real world lol

[nellysjade]

[quote]Originally posted by jet
Should Mummy and Daddy spongers like Freddie be allowed in the BB house? I don't see why not. Stop picking on Lisa, for heaven's sake. :whistle:


well said:thumbs2:

[Beastie]

Originally posted by nellysjade
[quote]Originally posted by jet
Should Mummy and Daddy spongers like Freddie be allowed in the BB house? I don't see why not. Stop picking on Lisa, for heaven's sake. :whistle:


well said:thumbs2:

how do you know freddie sponges from his parents?? he could be paying board.. and he works...

he cant help being brought up by a rich family!

[loomy]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
Originally posted by nellysjade
[quote]Originally posted by jet
Should Mummy and Daddy spongers like Freddie be allowed in the BB house? I don't see why not. Stop picking on Lisa, for heaven's sake. :whistle:


well said:thumbs2:

how do you know freddie sponges from his parents?? he could be paying board.. and he works...

he cant help being brought up by a rich family!
He's admitted he has no costs since he's living with his parents and that he would have signed on had he not

You guys are all stupid little sheep. He's only human, he's allowed to have faults. You don't do him any favours by blindly defending him and setting ridiculously high standards like he's some sort of saint

[Beastie]

im not a sheep! i have liked freddie since day 1!!

and hes also been into politics!! trying to get children in his area to eat healthy food! he has done protests and trying to make the world a better place!!!!

[fuzzylovin]

Does it really matter how you get your money wether you work or your on the dole, it wouldnt make you any different from someone else.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Originally posted by loomy
she was only on the dole 4 months before coming in

it's not easy finding a job in a recession and the west midlands has one of the highest unemployent rates

I wish people would get some perspective instead of being so quick to judge

Well said loomy. I live in the West Midlands and worked for a company for over 16 years until I was made redundant 5 years ago. I have not worked since and it was not fot the want of trying. But as a disabled person (which I am) and aged 54 it is almost impossible to get a job regardless of experience and qualifications. I wouldn't like to think that I am sponging. So why shouldn't Lisa be in the house?
Not from West Midlands but :thumbs:

Thanks for that Claymores.

[loomy]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
im not a sheep! i have liked freddie since day 1!!

and hes also been into politics!! trying to get children in his area to eat healthy food! he has done protests and trying to make the world a better place!!!!
Oh god, you're really clueless aren't you. He hasn't had a paying job. It's lovely for him he's had all that time for politics but that's what all the rich kids at university do; in fact that's what most university students do, never mind just the rich ones. Try to join in their silly little hippy protests that don't change anything just disrupt everyone trying to go about their normal lives

[Beastie]

well people should take note to the politics protests and dont be wrapped up in their own lives!! lets join together :D hold hands!!!! woo hoo!

[mangasatsuma]

As a child they said robots would do all the work when I grew up. My signing on acts as a protest to that empty promise.

Most jobs suck. Most graduates can't get jobs in their chosen profession. Our society doesn't work properly, it needs ripping out and starting again. The monetary cost of goods and services has little basis in the actual value of real things. Moaners with crap jobs should jack them in and start dealing in the black market.

[mucker79]

i tink ye people are very snobby, alot of people are out off work these days and its not that easy for unemployed people, i bet yer mammy and daddys are looking after ye idiots

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by mucker79
i tink ye people are very snobby, alot of people are out off work these days and its not that easy for unemployed people, i bet yer mammy and daddys are looking after ye idiots

You are spot on mucker79. People need to get a grip that during these credit crunch days that unemployment is massively high.

[Insane_Spirit]

Originally posted by loomy
she was only on the dole 4 months before coming in



Where did you hear that?

Lisa herself admitted to being 'long-term unemployed' which I think means considerably longer than 4 months. :shrug:

[oopaloompa]

Originally posted by Insane_Spirit
Originally posted by loomy
she was only on the dole 4 months before coming in



Where did you hear that?

Lisa herself admitted to being 'long-term unemployed' which I think means considerably longer than 4 months. :shrug:


Im sure she said earlier on she hadnt worked in 20 years

[Noel]

What a ****ing joke of a thread. What does it matter if she is unemployed? Big Brother hasn't got anything to do with unemployment.

Oh and btw, not all people who are unemployed choose to be. Maybe you should consider others before making quite stereotypical and generalistic threads about topics you don't have a clue about.

[Prole]

I agree that people who are unemployed should be given government assistance without question. But Lisa hasn't worked for quite some time and that's because she chooses not to. We've made her too comfortable. I hope everyone on here who is sticking up for her is happy for their hard-earned taxes to go to keep her sitting on her arse watching Jeremy Kyle every day while you're out at work. I'd rather my taxes went to a more worthy cause than a bone-idle, able-bodied woman.

[Fangz]

Let's hope you never have to claim the dole, eh? I have literally no qualifications and though I've been with this company for two years + if I became unemployed I would probably struggle to find another job. Over here you could leave school at 15 til this year, so dead-end retail jobs like mine are snapped up very very quickly, and there are always dropouts looking for
work.

[CaPPa]

Originally posted by loomyOh god, you're really clueless aren't you. He hasn't had a paying job. It's lovely for him he's had all that time for politics but that's what all the rich kids at university do; in fact that's what most university students do, never mind just the rich ones. Try to join in their silly little hippy protests that don't change anything just disrupt everyone trying to go about their normal lives

Seems that you are the clueless one.

Freddie receives no allowance from his parents, he does live in their house rent free but he has to earn his own spending money.

He has had a paying job too because he previously worked as a door to door salesman, now he has several website ventures that he works on. He has done more work in the past 5 years than Lisa has done in 20.

Being from a rich background certainly can make life easier and provide a better education but Freddie's life is in no way similar to Lisa's. He has been brought up to work for what he wants (I believe the Fisher's are good people), where as she has lived on handouts.

The biggest difference between the two though is that Freddie was raised to be a decent and productive member of society, that he has come from a rich background isn't his fault. Lisa has no wish to be decent or productive at all and that she makes no effort to look for work is her fault.

[HELLIWONTGO]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
well people should take note to the politics protests and dont be wrapped up in their own lives!! lets join together :D hold hands!!!! woo hoo!


Please can i hold your hand? :hug::xyxwave::xyxwave::dance:

[Claymores]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
and i heard.. that lisa received 15 grand.. im not sure from where but someone posted that on here the other week!!

i wonder where that money went??

well im not the only one judging!! WHY ARE YOU PIN POINTING ME!!

when i have had a job i have paid tax!! and medically and i have not had anything severly wrong with me lol you heard???????

Get tax return and medical records oot I ask you again expert :mad:

[Claymores]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
well people should take note to the politics protests and dont be wrapped up in their own lives!! lets join together :D hold hands!!!! woo hoo!
hmmmmmm yeah hmmmmmm you ar$e :mad:

[Vicky.]

I have no problem with my taxes going to people who need them, who are unemployed through no fault of their own.

But when someone says they havent worked in 20 years...something is very wrong.

Yes, right now jobs are thin on the ground, and very hard to come by, Im very glad I have mine (which I cant actually be fired from, and where there will always be demand) but it has not always been like this, and if she had been actively seeking work for the whole 20 years, there is more chance of winning the lottery than not finding even ONE fast food job.

:shrug:

This is, of course considering that she really has not had A job in that long, which she has boasted about a few times...I find it more likely she has had a few dead end jobs, really...

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by londoner2009
be allowed in the big brother house


all wrong

Absolutely of course they should. Of course that is exactly what you want is someone to get a job.
Better yet a job that is generating plenty of income and in her case actually brings money into the UK from elsewhere.
Its very good.
Think about this - if and when Lisa is evicted her Friday night will generate thousands and thousands into the economy from lucozade sales to the cameraman earning a days pay and overtime and even things like television sales and broadband accounts.
Its massive. Massive money generated by Lisa doing this job.

Now imagine if she won. The tax money she would pay into the government would be a nice slice back after all.

She may not generate the multiple millions that each member of The Spice Girls did (which would make for an astonishing amount of cash into the economy and thousands of jobs and government funds),
but,
Lisa will, after all, make big bucks and will be near the top percentage of people driving the UK economy this Summer.
Seriously.

[Wilton_Shagpile]

Originally posted by CaPPa
Originally posted by loomyOh god, you're really clueless aren't you. He hasn't had a paying job. It's lovely for him he's had all that time for politics but that's what all the rich kids at university do; in fact that's what most university students do, never mind just the rich ones. Try to join in their silly little hippy protests that don't change anything just disrupt everyone trying to go about their normal lives

Seems that you are the clueless one.

Freddie receives no allowance from his parents, he does live in their house rent free but he has to earn his own spending money.

He has had a paying job too because he previously worked as a door to door salesman, now he has several website ventures that he works on. He has done more work in the past 5 years than Lisa has done in 20.

Being from a rich background certainly can make life easier and provide a better education but Freddie's life is in no way similar to Lisa's. He has been brought up to work for what he wants (I believe the Fisher's are good people), where as she has lived on handouts.

The biggest difference between the two though is that Freddie was raised to be a decent and productive member of society, that he has come from a rich background isn't his fault. Lisa has no wish to be decent or productive at all and that she makes no effort to look for work is her fault.
Well said:pat: