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johnx
05-08-2009, 12:04 PM
Noirin proudly announced on BBLB that she is to be the first black woman on the cover of Nuts Magazine.This is a fantastic achievement-now woman of all races can have those too young or cowardly to buy a real porn mag w*nk over their picture.

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 12:08 PM
If she isn't naked, I don't care. :bored:

SocietyIsRuined
05-08-2009, 12:10 PM
I find it remarkable that Nuts haven't had a black woman on the cover before. It tells me a lot about that magazine.

johnx
05-08-2009, 12:15 PM
Black models find it almost impossible to get on cover of Nuts,Zoo,Loaded etc.Simple fact is an issue with a black girl on it wont sell as well,so also says alot about the fools who buy this crap.My thoery-it's a hang up from Britians colonial past.Black sexuality is still somehow seen as threatening.

Rozartytype
05-08-2009, 12:15 PM
I never buy Nuts magazine so I really couldn't care less if Noirin was on the cover.In a few weeks she and 'Daddy' will be forgotten.

Brad.
05-08-2009, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Rozartytype
I never buy Nuts magazine so I really couldn't care less if Noirin was on the cover.In a few weeks she and 'Daddy' will be forgotten.

Same, couldnt give a ****.

ElProximo
05-08-2009, 12:16 PM
First is that she is not Black.

Second is that this is stupid when they do this 'first black' thing. So for the next 300 years someone is going to be saying "Historic moment as this man was the first black person to be minister of defense or CEO of this toy company or first black man to own some franchise store.
What is that even supposed to mean anyways?

Third is that it is beyond pathetic that Noirin got her predicted Nuts deal and rather than be ashamed she actually found the stupidest way possible to play some idiotic 'race card' importance and even 'historic'.
DUMB!
Just so ****ing dumb people.

Fourth is shame on anyone who buys any magazine featuring ANY BB wannabe models and actresses etc.
That IS THE PROBLEM.
If you DO buy up those magazines then do NOT complain when next season has 20 wannabe models assigned from a talent agency who sit around a pool being stupid and petty.
DO NOT REWARD THAT.

Fifth is that she is a borderline sociopath and thinks you are so stupid and pulls that little sneer over her face as she said that.
Horrible.

IsleOfWeather
05-08-2009, 12:17 PM
it would be historic if

1. It was bought by adults

2. she is on there for her tits and nothing else



ironic would be my word. and she is not even black.

ConnieLingus
05-08-2009, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by johnx
Black models find it almost impossible to get on cover of Nuts,Zoo,Loaded etc.Simple fact is an issue with a black girl on it wont sell as well,so also says alot about the fools who buy this cr*p.My thoery-it's a hang up from Britians colonial past.Black sexuality is still somehow seen as threatening.

There are loads of guys who just don't find black women attractive. Nothing wrong with that.

rapunzal77
05-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by johnx
Noirin proudly announced on BBLB that she is to be the first black woman on the cover of Nuts Magazine.This is a fantastic achievement-now woman of all races can have those too young or cowardly to buy a real porn mag w*nk over their picture.


OH NO is she back on it?

:-( they should have banned her :( HOw was GL with her?

Also, Nuts? Classy eh - hardly fuscking GQ you daft bint..................aw parents must be dead dead proud - that girl is an imbecile and as classy as a can of irn bru!

abrittan
05-08-2009, 12:28 PM
Why does she call herself black when she is mixed race. Is she disowning her white family?

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
First is that she is not Black.


And who the **** are you to tell her what she is and what she isn't?

Originally posted by ConnieLingus
There are loads of guys who just don't find black women attractive. Nothing wrong with that.

:bored:

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by abrittan
Why does she call herself black when she is mixed race. Is she disowning her white family?
Some people are so ignorant. :bored:

IsleOfWeather
05-08-2009, 12:31 PM
is black now anyone who is not white or indian/pakistani?

I would say she is Irish and let it be at that

scot
05-08-2009, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by johnx
Black models find it almost impossible to get on cover of Nuts,Zoo,Loaded etc.Simple fact is an issue with a black girl on it wont sell as well,so also says alot about the fools who buy this cr*p.My thoery-it's a hang up from Britians colonial past.Black sexuality is still somehow seen as threatening.

I find that in this instance your reference to Britians colonial past and the associated threat of Black sexuality is misplaced John.

MALE black sexuality was perhaps seen as a threat, but not black female sexuality as black females tended to be exploited rather than feared.

If this mag aint had black girls before it will be down to sales projections. Money, money money.

IsleOfWeather
05-08-2009, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by johnx
Black models find it almost impossible to get on cover of Nuts,Zoo,Loaded etc.Simple fact is an issue with a black girl on it wont sell as well,so also says alot about the fools who buy this cr*p.My thoery-it's a hang up from Britians colonial past.Black sexuality is still somehow seen as threatening.


90% white country


do the math

Arneldo
05-08-2009, 12:33 PM
Noirin said herself she is black. So that's not debatable. And being the first black woman on 'Nuts' is an achievement. look at all the other beautiful black female models out there that they could have chose, but they chose Noirin. Well done her, I say!

scot
05-08-2009, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by abrittan
Why does she call herself black when she is mixed race. Is she disowning her white family?

Racial identity is a matter of choice for the individual.

Niorin indentifies as being black. She decides, no one else.

IsleOfWeather
05-08-2009, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by abrittan
Why does she call herself black when she is mixed race. Is she disowning her white family?

Racial identity is a matter of choice for the individual.

Niorin indentifies as being black. She decides, no one else.

rubbish

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Arneldo
Noirin said herself she is black. So that's not debatable.
Yet these people on here are saying what she is and isn't. :bored:

rapunzal77
05-08-2009, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by johnx
Black models find it almost impossible to get on cover of Nuts,Zoo,Loaded etc.Simple fact is an issue with a black girl on it wont sell as well,so also says alot about the fools who buy this cr*p.My thoery-it's a hang up from Britians colonial past.Black sexuality is still somehow seen as threatening.

I find that in this instance your reference to Britians colonial past and the associated threat of Black sexuality is misplaced John.

MALE black sexuality was perhaps seen as a threat, but not black female sexuality as black females tended to be exploited rather than feared.

If this mag aint had black girls before it will be down to sales projections. Money, money money.


I think she thinks she is like Niomi Campbell who was the first black woman on Vogue - he we have our very opwn trailer trash Norin - "first black woman on Nuts" its tooo hilarious she actually thinks this is a good thing. She is a moron imbeclic tube

Jayson
05-08-2009, 12:38 PM
She is black, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant.

I have two black parents and am black, she has one black parent and is black. Simple.

On-topic, I don't think she should be so proud about being the first black woman on the cover of Nuts. I'd rather be the first black person to have no head.

rapunzal77
05-08-2009, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Arneldo
Noirin said herself she is black. So that's not debatable. And being the first black woman on 'Nuts' is an achievement. look at all the other beautiful black female models out there that they could have chose, but they chose Noirin. Well done her, I say!


?!??! Are you mental? iT'S NUTS - no self respecting model would want to be pictured on their front cover its a tacky tacky magazine!!

Hedgie
05-08-2009, 12:39 PM
It's all just labels. She's still a twunt, whatever she regards herself as.

chris1232
05-08-2009, 12:40 PM
I want too see it,

But i dont care for her.

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Jayson
She is black, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant.

I have two black parents and am black, she has one black parent and is black. Simple.

On-topic, I don't think she should be so proud about being the first black woman on the cover of Nuts. I'd rather be the first black person to have no head.

This man speaks the truth.


http://i30.tinypic.com/14spkqd.gif

scot
05-08-2009, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by abrittan
Why does she call herself black when she is mixed race. Is she disowning her white family?

Racial identity is a matter of choice for the individual.

Niorin indentifies as being black. She decides, no one else.

rubbish

Not rubbish, Noirin sees herslef as black, she's claimed black identity numerous times.

No person can refuse another their personal sense of identity.

Tell me, why do you want to deny Noirin her identity, why do you want to project your own conceptions of what 'race' she is on to her. Why not accept her as she wants to be seen?

Why does it bother you?

Stephanie
05-08-2009, 12:42 PM
how is she black?
i don't get it lol.

Jayson
05-08-2009, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
Originally posted by Jayson
She is black, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant.

I have two black parents and am black, she has one black parent and is black. Simple.

On-topic, I don't think she should be so proud about being the first black woman on the cover of Nuts. I'd rather be the first black person to have no head.

This man speaks the truth.


http://i30.tinypic.com/14spkqd.gif :laugh: :bigsmile:

Jayson
05-08-2009, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by stefani
how is she black?
i don't get it lol. Oh, steffie steffie steffie stoo :bored:

ElProximo
05-08-2009, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
Originally posted by ElProximo
First is that she is not Black.


And who the **** are you to tell her what she is and what she isn't?

Originally posted by ConnieLingus
There are loads of guys who just don't find black women attractive. Nothing wrong with that.

:bored:

I am someone with 20/20 vision and the ability to comprehend the difference between someone who is Sub-Saharan African 'Black' and someone who is a 'Caucasian' with a caramel skin tone and because a Grandparent was Kenyan.

Also mentioned - why isn't she credited with being a white woman? Think about that.
If you can call her a 'Black woman' then I have entirely the same justification for calling her a White woman,

Why isn't she the 'First Irish Woman to appear on...,
and,
We are now categorizing people by race and documenting them as 'representatives'.
First chinese woman to appear on the cover of heat!
First pakistani man to appear on cover of Sports Weekly!
First white woman (half chinese) to appear on cover of 'Shaved Asians Weekly!'
So dumb!

Hedgie
05-08-2009, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by scot



Tell me, why do you want to deny Noirin her identity, why do you want to project your own conceptions of what 'race' she is on to her. Why not accept her as she wants to be seen?

Why does it bother you?

what do you make of the bloke that thought he was a bear, and then got eaten by one then :laugh2:

Noirin is entitled to her identity though. We all are.

Stephanie
05-08-2009, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Jayson
Originally posted by stefani
how is she black?
i don't get it lol. Oh, steffie steffie steffie stoo :bored:
just asking a question.
:bigsmile:

Daffodil
05-08-2009, 12:48 PM
She has done her roots and her family (father is a priest) proud ..... NOT!!

loomy
05-08-2009, 12:49 PM
I think Halle Berry sums this up best

"Blackness is a state of mind and I identify with the black community. Mainly, because I realized, early on, when I walk into a room, people see a black woman, they don't see a white women. So out of that reason alone, I identify more with the black community."

scot
05-08-2009, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
Originally posted by ElProximo
First is that she is not Black.


And who the **** are you to tell her what she is and what she isn't?

Originally posted by ConnieLingus
There are loads of guys who just don't find black women attractive. Nothing wrong with that.

:bored:

I am someone with 20/20 vision and the ability to comprehend the difference between someone who is Sub-Saharan African 'Black' and someone who is a 'Caucasian' with a caramel skin tone and because a Grandparent was Kenyan.

Also mentioned - why isn't she credited with being a white woman? Think about that.
If you can call her a 'Black woman' then I have entirely the same justification for calling her a White woman,

!

you just dont get it eh?....its not about what YOU wanna 'call' her. Its about her own sense of identity. She CHOOSES to associate with her black identity.

and your first paragraph above is just one big slaver

IsleOfWeather
05-08-2009, 12:50 PM
she is mixed race


but more than all that race crap, she is Irish ffs

scot
05-08-2009, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Hedgie
Originally posted by scot



Tell me, why do you want to deny Noirin her identity, why do you want to project your own conceptions of what 'race' she is on to her. Why not accept her as she wants to be seen?

Why does it bother you?

what do you make of the bloke that thought he was a bear, and then got eaten by one then :laugh2:

Noirin is entitled to her identity though. We all are.

the boy that though he was a bear and got eaten by was feckn looped.

But it's hardly the same is it. There's no comparrison.

rapunzal77
05-08-2009, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Daffodil
She has done her roots and her family (father is a priest) proud ..... NOT!!


He is not a priest................priests cannot have kids, very holy man i think and worked with the missionries but not a full priest

BigBummer
05-08-2009, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by loomy
I think Halle Berry sums this up best

"Blackness is a state of mind and I identify with the black community. Mainly, because I realized, early on, when I walk into a room, people see a black woman, they don't see a white women. So out of that reason alone, I identify more with the black community."

Not only does black role models saying things like this serve to increase racism and segregation but...

Announcing her as the first black woman in Nuts does not help racism, just like going ape over Obama being the prez... it's 2009 and we still rave about this stuff... Why?

Well firstly because a lot of the UK population are racist. Secondly, because the media are needing headlines... this is how they make their money.

Yes, most of those who read nuts are racist, whether they know it or not, society breeds this behaviour... but please don't slag off nuts whilst you gain most of your news from tabloids.. this is just so stupid it is crazy.

In real life it doesn't effect anything at all.

goongoondown
05-08-2009, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by abrittan
Why does she call herself black when she is mixed race. Is she disowning her white family?

Racial identity is a matter of choice for the individual.
I
Niorin indentifies as being black. She decides, no one else.

rubbish

Not rubbish, Noirin sees herslef as black, she's claimed black identity numerous times.

No person can refuse another their personal sense of identity.

Tell me, why do you want to deny Noirin her identity, why do you want to project your own conceptions of what 'race' she is on to her. Why not accept her as she wants to be seen?

Why does it bother you?

I am black and the mixed raced freinds i have all say they are black like noirin. Noirin is mixed raced ie has black and white parents, that is something that cannot be genetically debated. The more pertinent question and one that is at the root of the debate we have is why she, and most mixed raced people deny their white identity and consider themselves to be black? The answer to this is the historical conception of the racist ideology that says if you have 1% non white blood (genes) makes you non white and thus cast from that group. The racist abuse suffered by mixed raced people and their clear rejection by the white community (that they have a claim to) has led to a situation where most (not all) mixed raced people identify themselves as black. Slighty over simplified but it is an explanation that is pertinent to black identity.

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by goongoondown
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by abrittan
Why does she call herself black when she is mixed race. Is she disowning her white family?

Racial identity is a matter of choice for the individual.
I
Niorin indentifies as being black. She decides, no one else.

rubbish

Not rubbish, Noirin sees herslef as black, she's claimed black identity numerous times.

No person can refuse another their personal sense of identity.

Tell me, why do you want to deny Noirin her identity, why do you want to project your own conceptions of what 'race' she is on to her. Why not accept her as she wants to be seen?

Why does it bother you?

I am black and the mixed raced freinds i have all say they are black like noirin. Noirin is mixed raced ie has black and white parents, that is something that cannot be genetically debated. The more pertinent question and one that is at the root of the debate we have is why she, and most mixed raced people deny their white identity and consider themselves to be black? The answer to this is the historical conception of the racist ideology that says if you have 1% non white blood (genes) makes you non white and thus cast from that group. The racist abuse suffered by mixed raced people and their clear rejection by the white community (that they have a claim to) has led to a situation where most (not all) mixed raced people identify themselves as black. Slighty over simplified but it is an explanation that is pertinent to black identity.
:thumbs:

I'm of mixed backgrounds and no one sees me as being white.

loomy
05-08-2009, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by BigBummer
Originally posted by loomy
I think Halle Berry sums this up best

"Blackness is a state of mind and I identify with the black community. Mainly, because I realized, early on, when I walk into a room, people see a black woman, they don't see a white women. So out of that reason alone, I identify more with the black community."

Not only does black role models saying things like this serve to increase racism and segregation but...

Announcing her as the first black woman in Nuts does not help racism, just like going ape over Obama being the prez... it's 2009 and we still rave about this stuff... Why?

Well firstly because a lot of the UK population are racist. Secondly, because the media are needing headlines... this is how they make their money.

Yes, most of those who read nuts are racist, whether they know it or not, society breeds this behaviour... but please don't slag off nuts whilst you gain most of your news from tabloids.. this is just so stupid it is crazy.

In real life it doesn't effect anything at all.
Firstly you say a lot of the UK population are racist then you say it doesn't affect anything in real life? I agree the emphasis on Obama's race was way way over the top but it is still an important point and whether you mention it a lot or not it's still going to be a major factor when people were deciding to vote for him. Obama being elected as a black president was a sign of how far the united states as a society has moved on. Just over 50 years ago a black woman faced prosectution for daring not to give her seat up for a white man. 50 years; that's nothing. And now a black man is president of the united states. Race has played a huge part in American history and to a lesser extent over here.

Being black and growing up in a mostly white neighbourhood isn't that easy. Noirin being on the cover might not be much but it might be the beginning of a change in attitudes.

ElProximo
05-08-2009, 01:08 PM
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.

Jayson
05-08-2009, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses. You are one of the most boring and ignorant members on TiBB, it is her decision to associate herself with her black heritage, you should respect that, not shove your stupid and incorrect views down our throats.

scot
05-08-2009, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.

just what is your major malfunction re black folk, you seem to have very strong pejorative opinions re them.

BigBummer
05-08-2009, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by BigBummer
Originally posted by loomy
I think Halle Berry sums this up best

"Blackness is a state of mind and I identify with the black community. Mainly, because I realized, early on, when I walk into a room, people see a black woman, they don't see a white women. So out of that reason alone, I identify more with the black community."

Not only does black role models saying things like this serve to increase racism and segregation but...

Announcing her as the first black woman in Nuts does not help racism, just like going ape over Obama being the prez... it's 2009 and we still rave about this stuff... Why?

Well firstly because a lot of the UK population are racist. Secondly, because the media are needing headlines... this is how they make their money.

Yes, most of those who read nuts are racist, whether they know it or not, society breeds this behaviour... but please don't slag off nuts whilst you gain most of your news from tabloids.. this is just so stupid it is crazy.

In real life it doesn't effect anything at all.
Firstly you say a lot of the UK population are racist then you say it doesn't affect anything in real life? I agree the emphasis on Obama's race was way way over the top but it is still an important point and whether you mention it a lot or not it's still going to be a major factor when people were deciding to vote for him. Obama being elected as a black president was a sign of how far the united states as a society has moved on. Just over 50 years ago a black woman faced prosectution for daring not to give her seat up for a white man. 50 years; that's nothing. And now a black man is president of the united states. Race has played a huge part in American history and to a lesser extent over here.

Being black and growing up in a mostly white neighbourhood isn't that easy. Noirin being on the cover might not be much but it might be the beginning of a change in attitudes.

Sorry, sorry, sorry... yeah, I kind of meant that the Noirin stuff doesn't matter, just that. The other stuff kind of rules our lives.

I wasn't very cohesive just sticking that sentence on the end there. Sorry.

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.
LMFAO at this bullshit.


:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

I have a question for you.


When you see Halle Berry, what do you see a black or white woman?

Most white people would look at her weird, if she claimed to be white.

Just because her dad abandoned her, that does not take away from her black heritage.

Jayson
05-08-2009, 01:17 PM
ElProximo will reply with an 86 line post based on bullshit.

I can't be asked to read his/her posts anymore. Bu-bye.

Niamh.
05-08-2009, 01:18 PM
I am someone with 20/20 vision and the ability to comprehend the difference between someone who is Sub-Saharan African 'Black' and someone who is a 'Caucasian' with a caramel skin tone and because her grandparent was from Kenya Also mentioned - why isn't she credited with being a white woman? Think about that.
If you can call her a 'Black woman' then I have entirely the same justification for calling her a White woman,

Why isn't she the 'First Irish Woman to appear on...,
and,
We are now categorizing people by race and documenting them as 'representatives'.
First chinese woman to appear on the cover of heat!
First pakistani man to appear on cover of Sports Weekly!
First white woman (half chinese) to appear on cover of 'Shaved Asians Weekly!'
So dumb! [/quote]

Her mother is Kenyan not her grandparent. As a white person, I would guess that she sees herself more as black because if she walked into a room it would be obvious straight away that she has atleast one black parent (if not 2) However you could not be 100% sure if any of her parents were white, therefore people probably have considered her black all her life

goongoondown
05-08-2009, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.


If you think white america accepts halle or obama as one of them you are just ignorant to the point of criminal. If obama was accepted by the white community he would not have caused a race issue in american politics. Being part of a group is not something you can decide as an individual, said group must recognise and accept you as an equal and valued member. For example i cannot say i am italian because i meet none of the criteria, i was not born there, i have no italian heritage, i dont even speak the language and more importantly italians would not accept me as an italian because i do not fit any italian criteria. As another poster just said if white people do not consider halle to be white how can she claim to be white with any legitamacy. I can claim to be italian all i want but if italians say 'no your not' then i am deluded. The black community accepts halle and her black heritage the white community rejects her white heritage and this has nothing whatsoever to do with which race parent was the better one, its just slightly more complex than that.

ElProximo
05-08-2009, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by goongoondown
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.


If you think white america accepts halle or obama as one of them you are just ignorant to the point of criminal. If obama was accepted by the white community he would not have caused a race issue in american politics. Being part of a group is not something you can decide as an individual, said group must recognise and accept you as an equal and valued member. For example i cannot say i am italian because i meet none of the criteria, i was not born there, i have no italian heritage, i dont even speak the language and more importantly italians would not accept me as an italian because i do not fit any italian criteria. As another poster just said if white people do not consider halle to be white how can she claim to be white with any legitamacy. I can claim to be italian all i want but if italians say 'no your not' then i am deluded. The black community accepts halle and her black heritage the white community rejects her white heritage and this has nothing whatsoever to do with which race parent was the better one, its just slightly more complex than that.

Nope.
All wrong. You are just coming up with stories about how you imagine things might be.
None of it.
First off - the vast majority of people in the USA do not care or concern themselves with it.
Second reminder:
The 'Black person' in Halle Barrys life abandoned her and her mother.
The 'white people' in her life invested great time and sacrifice and a lot of jewish people gave her contracts, money and then sold tickets to white men who wanted to see her,
and,
again, nobody really cares and nobody was watching Halle Barry wondering if she was 'black or white,
and,
there are just massive amounts of 'browns' in the USA,
and,
If you do want to bring in subcultures and racism then duly note that there are as many 'racists' in their 'Black communities' who most definitely do NOT accept a Halle Barry as 'one of them' and do discriminate,
and,
for that matter there have been subcultures of 'creole blacks' who do NOT accept people who are darker.
Not that many years ago there were many a night club where they had a paper bag test. If you were blacker than the colour of the paper bag you were not allowed in.
Neither were white people.

Anyways.. that all digresses.
No, Halle Barry was all but 100% entirely raised and supported and rewarded by 'white people'.
Not to say 'because they were white' but just saying that is where the numbers would land if you actually wanted to put categories into it.

scot
05-08-2009, 01:39 PM
jeeeshhh elsuckimo, you must spend a lot of time and energy constructing and maintaining those kind of unhinged opinions and world view.

Rob
05-08-2009, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by johnx
Noirin proudly announced on BBLB that she is to be the first black woman on the cover of Nuts Magazine.This is a fantastic achievement-now woman of all races can have those too young or cowardly to buy a real porn mag w*nk over their picture.

im suprised she is the first

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by goongoondown
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.


If you think white america accepts halle or obama as one of them you are just ignorant to the point of criminal. If obama was accepted by the white community he would not have caused a race issue in american politics. Being part of a group is not something you can decide as an individual, said group must recognise and accept you as an equal and valued member. For example i cannot say i am italian because i meet none of the criteria, i was not born there, i have no italian heritage, i dont even speak the language and more importantly italians would not accept me as an italian because i do not fit any italian criteria. As another poster just said if white people do not consider halle to be white how can she claim to be white with any legitamacy. I can claim to be italian all i want but if italians say 'no your not' then i am deluded. The black community accepts halle and her black heritage the white community rejects her white heritage and this has nothing whatsoever to do with which race parent was the better one, its just slightly more complex than that.

Nope.
All wrong. You are just coming up with stories about how you imagine things might be.
None of it.
First off - the vast majority of people in the USA do not care or concern themselves with it.
Second reminder:
The 'Black person' in Halle Barrys life abandoned her and her mother.
The 'white people' in her life invested great time and sacrifice and a lot of jewish people gave her contracts, money and then sold tickets to white men who wanted to see her,
and,
again, nobody really cares and nobody was watching Halle Barry wondering if she was 'black or white,
and,
there are just massive amounts of 'browns' in the USA,
and,
If you do want to bring in subcultures and racism then duly note that there are as many 'racists' in their 'Black communities' who most definitely do NOT accept a Halle Barry as 'one of them' and do discriminate,
and,
for that matter there have been subcultures of 'creole blacks' who do NOT accept people who are darker.
Not that many years ago there were many a night club where they had a paper bag test. If you were blacker than the colour of the paper bag you were not allowed in.
Neither were white people.

Anyways.. that all digresses.
No, Halle Barry was all but 100% entirely raised and supported and rewarded by 'white people'.
Not to say 'because they were white' but just saying that is where the numbers would land if you actually wanted to put categories into it.
Do you live in the USA or have ever even been there?

Not one living white person in the USA considers Halle Berry as a white woman, that's a fact.

I've lived there for a long time and not one person there considered me white, because my grandparents are white.


If you did not grow being black or mixed with black, you don't know what its like. The thing is you can do all this talking about this and that, but you haven't lived your life as a person of color. So honestly you should ****. You are sounding very ignorant right now.

Niamh.
05-08-2009, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by goongoondown
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.


If you think white america accepts halle or obama as one of them you are just ignorant to the point of criminal. If obama was accepted by the white community he would not have caused a race issue in american politics. Being part of a group is not something you can decide as an individual, said group must recognise and accept you as an equal and valued member. For example i cannot say i am italian because i meet none of the criteria, i was not born there, i have no italian heritage, i dont even speak the language and more importantly italians would not accept me as an italian because i do not fit any italian criteria. As another poster just said if white people do not consider halle to be white how can she claim to be white with any legitamacy. I can claim to be italian all i want but if italians say 'no your not' then i am deluded. The black community accepts halle and her black heritage the white community rejects her white heritage and this has nothing whatsoever to do with which race parent was the better one, its just slightly more complex than that.

Nope.
All wrong. You are just coming up with stories about how you imagine things might be.
None of it.
First off - the vast majority of people in the USA do not care or concern themselves with it.
Second reminder:
The 'Black person' in Halle Barrys life abandoned her and her mother.
The 'white people' in her life invested great time and sacrifice and a lot of jewish people gave her contracts, money and then sold tickets to white men who wanted to see her,
and,
again, nobody really cares and nobody was watching Halle Barry wondering if she was 'black or white,
and,
there are just massive amounts of 'browns' in the USA,
and,
If you do want to bring in subcultures and racism then duly note that there are as many 'racists' in their 'Black communities' who most definitely do NOT accept a Halle Barry as 'one of them' and do discriminate,
and,
for that matter there have been subcultures of 'creole blacks' who do NOT accept people who are darker.
Not that many years ago there were many a night club where they had a paper bag test. If you were blacker than the colour of the paper bag you were not allowed in.
Neither were white people.

Anyways.. that all digresses.
No, Halle Barry was all but 100% entirely raised and supported and rewarded by 'white people'.
Not to say 'because they were white' but just saying that is where the numbers would land if you actually wanted to put categories into it.


Why do you even care what colour she considers herself anyway??? She is both so she's entitled to say she's black if she wants to!!!

goongoondown
05-08-2009, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by goongoondown
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.


If you think white america accepts halle or obama as one of them you are just ignorant to the point of criminal. If obama was accepted by the white community he would not have caused a race issue in american politics. Being part of a group is not something you can decide as an individual, said group must recognise and accept you as an equal and valued member. For example i cannot say i am italian because i meet none of the criteria, i was not born there, i have no italian heritage, i dont even speak the language and more importantly italians would not accept me as an italian because i do not fit any italian criteria. As another poster just said if white people do not consider halle to be white how can she claim to be white with any legitamacy. I can claim to be italian all i want but if italians say 'no your not' then i am deluded. The black community accepts halle and her black heritage the white community rejects her white heritage and this has nothing whatsoever to do with which race parent was the better one, its just slightly more complex than that.

Nope.
All wrong. You are just coming up with stories about how you imagine things might be.
None of it.
First off - the vast majority of people in the USA do not care or concern themselves with it.
Second reminder:
The 'Black person' in Halle Barrys life abandoned her and her mother.
The 'white people' in her life invested great time and sacrifice and a lot of jewish people gave her contracts, money and then sold tickets to white men who wanted to see her,
and,
again, nobody really cares and nobody was watching Halle Barry wondering if she was 'black or white,
and,
there are just massive amounts of 'browns' in the USA,
and,
If you do want to bring in subcultures and racism then duly note that there are as many 'racists' in their 'Black communities' who most definitely do NOT accept a Halle Barry as 'one of them' and do discriminate,
and,
for that matter there have been subcultures of 'creole blacks' who do NOT accept people who are darker.
Not that many years ago there were many a night club where they had a paper bag test. If you were blacker than the colour of the paper bag you were not allowed in.
Neither were white people.

Anyways.. that all digresses.
No, Halle Barry was all but 100% entirely raised and supported and rewarded by 'white people'.
Not to say 'because they were white' but just saying that is where the numbers would land if you actually wanted to put categories into it.

Your becoming a joke. So madonna's black kids are in actual fact white because they were raised by a white woman? Comeon. I was doing you the honour of giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you really were not as devoid of rational thought as you made out but the amount of bull and under hand remarks in you last post gives me the impression that you have a agenda that i do not particulary like.

Jordan.
05-08-2009, 01:43 PM
Noirins not black :puzzled:

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by goongoondown
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by goongoondown
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.


If you think white america accepts halle or obama as one of them you are just ignorant to the point of criminal. If obama was accepted by the white community he would not have caused a race issue in american politics. Being part of a group is not something you can decide as an individual, said group must recognise and accept you as an equal and valued member. For example i cannot say i am italian because i meet none of the criteria, i was not born there, i have no italian heritage, i dont even speak the language and more importantly italians would not accept me as an italian because i do not fit any italian criteria. As another poster just said if white people do not consider halle to be white how can she claim to be white with any legitamacy. I can claim to be italian all i want but if italians say 'no your not' then i am deluded. The black community accepts halle and her black heritage the white community rejects her white heritage and this has nothing whatsoever to do with which race parent was the better one, its just slightly more complex than that.

Nope.
All wrong. You are just coming up with stories about how you imagine things might be.
None of it.
First off - the vast majority of people in the USA do not care or concern themselves with it.
Second reminder:
The 'Black person' in Halle Barrys life abandoned her and her mother.
The 'white people' in her life invested great time and sacrifice and a lot of jewish people gave her contracts, money and then sold tickets to white men who wanted to see her,
and,
again, nobody really cares and nobody was watching Halle Barry wondering if she was 'black or white,
and,
there are just massive amounts of 'browns' in the USA,
and,
If you do want to bring in subcultures and racism then duly note that there are as many 'racists' in their 'Black communities' who most definitely do NOT accept a Halle Barry as 'one of them' and do discriminate,
and,
for that matter there have been subcultures of 'creole blacks' who do NOT accept people who are darker.
Not that many years ago there were many a night club where they had a paper bag test. If you were blacker than the colour of the paper bag you were not allowed in.
Neither were white people.

Anyways.. that all digresses.
No, Halle Barry was all but 100% entirely raised and supported and rewarded by 'white people'.
Not to say 'because they were white' but just saying that is where the numbers would land if you actually wanted to put categories into it.

Your becoming a joke. So madonna's black kids are in actual fact white because they were raised by a white woman? Comeon. I was doing you the honour of giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you really were not as devoid of rational thought as you made out but the amount of bull and under hand remarks in you last post gives me the impression that you have a agenda that i do not particulary like.
He is clearly a racists.

He is one of those people that would do/say anything to put down a person of color.

If Norion or Halle was calling themselves white, his whole argument would change to discredit them in another way.

Stephanie
05-08-2009, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by SPIDERPIG!
Noirins not black :puzzled:
exactly lmfao.

scot
05-08-2009, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
Originally posted by goongoondown
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by goongoondown
Originally posted by ElProximo
Halle Barry is a good example of a sneaky idiot who will play race cards and yet sell-out another.
Halle Barry's black father abandoned her and her mother. Her white mother raised Halle Barry by herself, invested in her daughters career with massive money and time and effort and sacrifice and then risked it all for her daughters big shot at Hollywood.
Barry then shows up at an award and as the Americans say 'threw her Mum under the bus' and sucked up some stupid 'historic first' race-card stupidity.
Halle Barrys father was what.. proud of abandoning her and her mum?

Reminds me a lot of another American 'historic first' whos only 'black' anything was that his father - who abandoned him and his mother - happened to be Arab-Kenyan.
Later Obama who was raised by white people (who didn't abandon him) is happy to pretend to be African-American.
Like Barry he justifies it by saying that some people 'in a room' once misidentified them and so they can now misidentify themselves all they want.

Anyways.
I had actually suppose Noirin was just finding a way to 'sell out' black people by admitting she has shamefully posed for the cover of Nuts.
I'm sure real Black people are so proud to find out 'they' just did something so tasteless and whorish.
Black people everywhere trying to find out if there is a way to disown her or at least get her fined for that racial hate-crime.

Its late and Im on a lot of pills.
Kisses.


If you think white america accepts halle or obama as one of them you are just ignorant to the point of criminal. If obama was accepted by the white community he would not have caused a race issue in american politics. Being part of a group is not something you can decide as an individual, said group must recognise and accept you as an equal and valued member. For example i cannot say i am italian because i meet none of the criteria, i was not born there, i have no italian heritage, i dont even speak the language and more importantly italians would not accept me as an italian because i do not fit any italian criteria. As another poster just said if white people do not consider halle to be white how can she claim to be white with any legitamacy. I can claim to be italian all i want but if italians say 'no your not' then i am deluded. The black community accepts halle and her black heritage the white community rejects her white heritage and this has nothing whatsoever to do with which race parent was the better one, its just slightly more complex than that.

Nope.
All wrong. You are just coming up with stories about how you imagine things might be.
None of it.
First off - the vast majority of people in the USA do not care or concern themselves with it.
Second reminder:
The 'Black person' in Halle Barrys life abandoned her and her mother.
The 'white people' in her life invested great time and sacrifice and a lot of jewish people gave her contracts, money and then sold tickets to white men who wanted to see her,
and,
again, nobody really cares and nobody was watching Halle Barry wondering if she was 'black or white,
and,
there are just massive amounts of 'browns' in the USA,
and,
If you do want to bring in subcultures and racism then duly note that there are as many 'racists' in their 'Black communities' who most definitely do NOT accept a Halle Barry as 'one of them' and do discriminate,
and,
for that matter there have been subcultures of 'creole blacks' who do NOT accept people who are darker.
Not that many years ago there were many a night club where they had a paper bag test. If you were blacker than the colour of the paper bag you were not allowed in.
Neither were white people.

Anyways.. that all digresses.
No, Halle Barry was all but 100% entirely raised and supported and rewarded by 'white people'.
Not to say 'because they were white' but just saying that is where the numbers would land if you actually wanted to put categories into it.

Your becoming a joke. So madonna's black kids are in actual fact white because they were raised by a white woman? Comeon. I was doing you the honour of giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you really were not as devoid of rational thought as you made out but the amount of bull and under hand remarks in you last post gives me the impression that you have a agenda that i do not particulary like.
He is clearly a racists.

He is one of those people that would do/say anything to put down a person of color.

If Norion or Halle was calling themselves white, his whole argument would change to discredit them in another way.

agreed BBUK...Luckily his inflametory posts are clearly the mind work of an intellectualy stunted creepy sad sack.

mangasatsuma
05-08-2009, 02:41 PM
At the risk of finding myself involved in a stoning match, or labelled (the tag is not the product) in some way, I feel obliged to extend the question of whether one should consider certain individuals "black" to the likes of Mariah Carey or Vin Diesel.

Also, if Marcus thinks himself cool, but plenty of people don't, should we call him cool or not?

BBUK4LYFE
05-08-2009, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by mangasatsuma
At the risk of finding myself involved in a stoning match, or labelled (the tag is not the product) in some way, I feel obliged to extend the question of whether one should consider certain individuals "black" to the likes of Mariah Carey or Vin Diesel.

Also, if Marcus thinks himself cool, but plenty of people don't, should we call him cool or not?
Well both Mariah Carey and Vin Diesel consider themselves black.

I would fall into that category with them. I usually call myself mixed, but when I put myself into an ethnic group, I say that I'm black.

Nebi
05-08-2009, 02:48 PM
I will NEVER buy anything with Noirin face on it.

NadiasWilly
05-08-2009, 02:49 PM
Sunday sport and Nuts magazine. Yep, she's going the classic BB bimbo route and with no shame about it either.

Always knew she had no class. And her agents a sleazeball.

mangasatsuma
05-08-2009, 02:55 PM
I tend to put "Other" on forms etc., in my head sometimes giving the tenuous reason that I had one Gypsy great-great-grandfather. I doubt I would find myself accepted by any Romany community.

Pretty complicated subject, I won't even start on what makes or does not make someone Jewish....

jjj2
05-08-2009, 03:08 PM
To me Noirins White heritage is as obvious in her facial features as her Black heritage and Its the Mix of the Two that make her so Beautiful . Anyway if she can make plenty money from her looks, then she will have the last laugh and good luck to her

Patrick
05-08-2009, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
If she isn't naked, I don't care. :bored:

IsleOfWeather
05-08-2009, 03:19 PM
I wonder what we would say if she said she was the first Big Brother hm to never talk behind anyones back for her whole duration?

I doubt we would have

"What she calls herself is what she is" sayers





:nono:

Jack_
05-08-2009, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
If she isn't naked, I don't care. :bored:

:thumbs:

philmurph
05-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Noirin is a pretty black woman and proud of it shes not in the house and the threads about her are still red hot best house mate this year:thumbs:

NadiasWilly
05-08-2009, 03:27 PM
Well I agree she can call herself what she likes. But surely for historical purposes it becomes more about fact? If she is technically not black then she can't be called the first black anything.

She is light skinned so putting her on the cover is no great shift from the usual anyhow. It's just another publicity angle that's all.

IsleOfWeather
05-08-2009, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by philmurph
Noirin is a pretty black woman and proud of it shes not in the house and the threads about her are still red hot best house mate this year:thumbs:

she is mixed race


and you are wrong

ricky2k9
05-08-2009, 03:38 PM
I really dont know what everyone sees in her :shrug::shrug::puzzled::puzzled:

shash
05-08-2009, 03:50 PM
If she were breaking down barriers and opening doors for black women I would applaud her, even though I can't stand her, but I don't think being the first black woman on the cover of Nuts is exactly something to be proud of, or furthering the cause. By this I mean that being in Nuts full stop is nothing to be proud of. Does anyone actually buy that rubbish???

fok
05-08-2009, 07:10 PM
her family must be so proud

golliwog
09-08-2009, 12:50 AM
barrack obama has one white parent and one black and he is considered to be the fist black us president

troy4783
09-08-2009, 12:55 AM
congrats norin

hannah.
09-08-2009, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by johnx
Noirin proudly announced on BBLB that she is to be the first black woman on the cover of Nuts Magazine.This is a fantastic achievement-now woman of all races can have those too young or cowardly to buy a real porn mag w*nk over their picture.

BRILLIANT

hannah.
09-08-2009, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by golliwog
barrack obama has one white parent and one black and he is considered to be the fist black us president

i know that pisses me off aswell

biggiupdee
09-08-2009, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by chris1232
I want too see it,

But i dont care for her.

I find this thread pretty funny, Noirin has been out of BB house over a week and you guys are still talking about her!!!! well done for giving her more credit!!!!!! Do you think she even cares what you think? the girl is laughing all the way to the bank!!! and yes it is an acheivement for her as a black women( and she is because mixed race is not a colour) to be on Nuts. Come on guys get with the program BB is only a reality show and Noirin aint gonna give a damn!!!!!!!!!

tintedshadow
09-08-2009, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by BBUK4LYFE
Originally posted by ElProximo
First is that she is not Black.


And who the **** are you to tell her what she is and what she isn't?

Originally posted by ConnieLingus
There are loads of guys who just don't find black women attractive. Nothing wrong with that.

:bored:

I am someone with 20/20 vision and the ability to comprehend the difference between someone who is Sub-Saharan African 'Black' and someone who is a 'Caucasian' with a caramel skin tone and because a Grandparent was Kenyan.

Also mentioned - why isn't she credited with being a white woman? Think about that.
If you can call her a 'Black woman' then I have entirely the same justification for calling her a White woman,

Why isn't she the 'First Irish Woman to appear on...,
and,
We are now categorizing people by race and documenting them as 'representatives'.
First chinese woman to appear on the cover of heat!
First pakistani man to appear on cover of Sports Weekly!
First white woman (half chinese) to appear on cover of 'Shaved Asians Weekly!'
So dumb!

im not sure why it bothers anyone what noirin considers herlself,be it black/white she is whatever she considers herself,i myself am mixraced but those who see me would consider me more pakistani than greek..

furthermore the chances are,this nuts magazine is probably the one who have given noirin the title of first black woman,not noirin herself..

oh and all those saying noirins parents must be proud,**** as no one has an issue or looks down on lucy pinder,keeley hazell or rosie jones so why is it a problem with noirin?

Nebi
09-08-2009, 02:05 AM
Who cares.. If she wants to impress she better pose with a dildo up her @ss.

merv
09-08-2009, 02:09 AM
Got nowt to do with people not likeing black woman, its a Case of the right black woman.
Now, put Beyonce or Alli Berry on the front cover and i'd buy one myself.:thumbs:

MaratSafinForever
09-08-2009, 02:09 AM
she has tiny tits