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kisywisy
05-08-2009, 11:44 PM
i'm pretty shocked to be honest!!

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/voting/voting-terms.html

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3. You may vote as many times as you like but the eligibility of any vote entry is at the sole discretion of Channel 4.

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so they can discount votes???:shocked::shocked::shocked:

Vicky.
05-08-2009, 11:46 PM
They did this already kind of

With the whole nikki thing.

Appearance_Of_A_Junky
05-08-2009, 11:46 PM
I think KisyWisy that applies more to suspicious betting patterns and odd moves with regard to betting on results. If there seem to be block phone calls and large bets on the same housemate against popular opinion then theres a chance it will be wiped out.

Blink_Me
05-08-2009, 11:47 PM
Big Brother has been fixed for years. They pick who they want to pick.

kisywisy
05-08-2009, 11:49 PM
it's rule number 3 that shocked me though.

fair enough about the suspect fraudulant voting, but it's saying we can vote as many times we want but it's not guaranteed they'll be counted!!

Vicky.
05-08-2009, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by kisywisy
it's rule number 3 that shocked me though.

fair enough about the suspect fraudulant voting, but it's saying we can vote as many times we want but it's not guaranteed they'll be counted!!

I think that is more likely to be if they notice suspicious voting patterns...like if there are 5000 calls come from your number or something...

LemonJam
05-08-2009, 11:51 PM
Shite... I voted for the same two people about 20 times, that'd still be counted right?

shash
05-08-2009, 11:51 PM
Nice to have this confirmed, it's what I've long suspected and a reason why I do not vote.

Frankieman
05-08-2009, 11:54 PM
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Appearance_Of_A_Junky
05-08-2009, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by kisywisy
it's rule number 3 that shocked me though.

fair enough about the suspect fraudulant voting, but it's saying we can vote as many times we want but it's not guaranteed they'll be counted!!

I can see where your coming from but I doubt they would go to such lengths to fix it when they can easily do that with editing and that doesn't have any regulators like the phones do.

They essentially try and cover their ass with those things as much as possible, they wouldnt want to not have this stated, wipe out some suspected betting pattern voting and then be sued by said voters afterwards for not counting them.

fizz2009
05-08-2009, 11:55 PM
:cloud::cloud::cloud::cloud::cloud:

Appearance_Of_A_Junky
05-08-2009, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by LemonJam
s****... I voted for the same two people about 20 times, that'd still be counted right?

your 20 votes will hardly be noticed in the sea of votes, betting scams would be several 1000 votes, they wouldnt want to take the chance of placing bets and then not making the calls.

LaRainbow
05-08-2009, 11:56 PM
How can they get away with that when there have been so many scandals on voting in the past?

The votes must surely be independently moderated, so I doubt they're fixing the votes. Those rules are probably there to cover their backs.

?
05-08-2009, 11:57 PM
They can't gurantee anything, if they gurantee it and they miss ONE call the show faces axe.

shash
05-08-2009, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Blink_Me
Big Brother has been fixed for years. They pick who they want to pick.


Well, Rachel winning last year was a bit of a surprise, but Ulrika winning the celeb one convinced me something was not right. I don't worry if my favourite does not win but when someone who appears to be nobody's favourite wins it seems suspicious, or maybe I am wrong and she really was popular.

I think they can get away with anything they like if they have their rules and policies displayed, however hidden it may be. It is like the small print.