The Laugh That Shook The House

[hennessy]

Are we serious people?
Really?
Halfwit has been a decent person over the course of BB10 run, bullied for over half of that time and the ONE time he has the temerity to rile Lisa he is hated by so called former supporters.
To the people who unwavered in their support for Lisa, she is the epitome of spite.
She walked away (if she remained away she could of been called dignified) but came in with a face of thunder, spoiling for a bigger fight.
From what I recall it didn't get out of hand until she got into his grill swearing and pointing, if a woman does that to me I'm gonna laugh. What else can I do?
He shouldn't of followed them through to cont. but in a fight it's hard to think straight.
I Think this was the boiling point for HW.
All we got from Lisa was swearing and vows that this will never be over. David acted a lot better than his elder.

Halfwit has been losing his appeal recently.
He doesn't know what Bea's like only what she shows him.
I didn't forget that he was bullied to the point of crying and shunned by almost everyone for 5 weeks and I say I'm glad Lisa got bit on the bum.
GOOD ON HIM!
I didn't really care for Freddie until last night.
To all the Lisa lovers and Freddie haters...

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/48879-1/chaps.jpg
rant over:devil:

[Vicky.]

So freddie has gained a fan?

Funny that, the haters were saying he would only LOSE fans, not gain any :bigsmile:

[BB22]

Very good OP.

[Captain.Remy]

Freddie bullied for half of the series ? Hold on, I harly call it bullying.
He was dreadful last night, I disliked him before but now it got worse.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Freddie bullied for half of the series ? Hold on, I harly call it bullying.
He was dreadful last night, I disliked him before but now it got worse.

What would you call it then?

[superfanno1]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Are we serious people?
Really?
Halfwit has been a decent person over the coarse of BB10 run, bullied for over half of that time and the ONE time he has the temerity to rile Lisa he is hated by so called former supporters.
To the people who unwavered in their support for Lisa, she is the epitome of spite.
She walked away (if she remained away she could of been called dignified) but came in with a face of thunder, spoiling for a bigger fight.
From what I recall it didn't get out of hand until she got into his grill swearing and pointing, if a woman does that to me I'm gonna laugh. What else can I do?
He shouldn't of followed them through to cont. but in a fight it's hard to think straight.
think this was the boiling point for HW.
All we got from Lisa was swearing and vows that this will
never be over.

Halfwit has been losing his appeal recently.
He doesn't know what Bea's like only what she shows him.
I didn't forget that he was bullied to the point of crying and shunned by almost everyone for 5 weeks and I say I'm glad Lisa got bit on the bum.
GOOD ON HIM!
I didn't really care for Freddie until last night.
To all the Lisa lovers and Freddie haters...

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/48879-1/chaps.jpg
rant over:devil:


Spot on.

Lisa is a 41yr old loser who acts like a teenage with an asbo.

[Twilight]

Freddie has gained a fan woohoo

[NettoSuperstar!]

I was pissing myself when he laughed at her heheh

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Freddie bullied for half of the series ? Hold on, I harly call it bullying.
He was dreadful last night, I disliked him before but now it got worse.

What would you call it then?

Nothing. Just people bitching and disliking him. It'sn ot bullying, people throw this word way too easily. Jade was a bully on Shilpa, that was real bullying. Now, anyone who's bitching or having an argument is a nasty bully. As much as I don't like Lisa/Kris/David, they aren't bullies towards Freddie.

And then Freddie play the pity card, which pi$$es me off because he'll win due to that.

[EmptySouls]

I seriously don't know what all the fuss is about with people moaning about Halfwit...For weeks they moan about wanting entertainment and when they get it they complain about somebody being OTT.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : EmptySouls
I seriously don't know what all the fuss is about with people moaning about Halfwit...For weeks they moan about wanting entertainment and when they get it they complain about somebody being OTT.

Freddie isn't entertainment. He's a public embarassment, to himself, to his family, to the viewers and to his so called 'politician' career.

[charmingmissc]

i agree with you, anyone who has been bullied should have the chance to face down the person who has bullied them.
as she said afterwards he has friends now.
i don't think it is over with them yet.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Freddie bullied for half of the series ? Hold on, I harly call it bullying.
He was dreadful last night, I disliked him before but now it got worse.

What would you call it then?

Nothing. Just people bitching and disliking him. It'sn ot bullying, people throw this word way too easily. Jade was a bully on Shilpa, that was real bullying. Now, anyone who's bitching or having an argument is a nasty bully. As much as I don't like Lisa/Kris/David, they aren't bullies towards Freddie.

And then Freddie play the pity card, which pi$$es me off because he'll win due to that.

He never once played the pity card, in fact in his diary room rants he even told the viewers that he was not playing the victim and had a plan.

It IS bullying if a group of people, not just one, repeatedly lay into you about stupid little things, usually all at the same time.

Karly let us know EXACTLY what was going on when she screamed at freddie for practicsing his singing, and then went back to the group for a pat on the back for 'finally having a go at asshole'

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Freddie bullied for half of the series ? Hold on, I harly call it bullying.
He was dreadful last night, I disliked him before but now it got worse.

What would you call it then?

Nothing. Just people bitching and disliking him. It'sn ot bullying, people throw this word way too easily. Jade was a bully on Shilpa, that was real bullying. Now, anyone who's bitching or having an argument is a nasty bully. As much as I don't like Lisa/Kris/David, they aren't bullies towards Freddie.

And then Freddie play the pity card, which pi$$es me off because he'll win due to that.

He never once played the pity card, in fact in his diary room rants he even told the viewers that he was not playing the victim and had a plan.

It IS bullying if a group of people, not just one, repeatedly lay into you about stupid little things, usually all at the same time.

Karly let us know EXACTLY what was going on when she screamed at freddie for practicsing his singing, and then went back to the group for a pat on the back for 'finally having a go at asshole'

Yeh Lisa Karly and Kris (Charlie at the start) picked on him for sure, they'd start having at go at him for breathing in the end! They only stopped because he survived so many evictions and that gang started getting booted out! Lisa is dying to get her own back but cant!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

He never once played the pity card, in fact in his diary room rants he even told the viewers that he was not playing the victim and had a plan.

It IS bullying if a group of people, not just one, repeatedly lay into you about stupid little things, usually all at the same time.

Karly let us know EXACTLY what was going on when she screamed at freddie for practicsing his singing, and then went back to the group for a pat on the back for 'finally having a go at asshole'

By saying he's not playing the victim...he is playing the victim and is trying to get sympathy, and it worked well. He has the biggest game plan out there and blames other people for that.

I laughed so much when Karly told him to $hut up, it was brilliant. Someone needed to get him back to earth.
if it was real bullying, something would have been done about it, just like the Shilpa situation. To me, it's just a group of dumb people bitching about him. We've had that for ages but because it is Freddie, it's considered as bullying. It's not.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy


I laughed so much when Karly told him to $hut up, it was brilliant. Someone needed to get him back to earth.
.

OK, the singing was for a task...do you suggest he should not have practiced, and then messed up the task and let them have another reason to have a go at him?

God the guy could hardly breathe without one of them arseholes starting with him.

And something was only done in the shilpa situation because it was racist. If shilpa had been white, nothing would have kicked off quite the way it did.

[charmingmissc]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ

He never once played the pity card, in fact in his diary room rants he even told the viewers that he was not playing the victim and had a plan.

It IS bullying if a group of people, not just one, repeatedly lay into you about stupid little things, usually all at the same time.

Karly let us know EXACTLY what was going on when she screamed at freddie for practicsing his singing, and then went back to the group for a pat on the back for 'finally having a go at asshole'

By saying he's not playing the victim...he is playing the victim and is trying to get sympathy, and it worked well. He has the biggest game plan out there and blames other people for that.

I laughed so much when Karly told him to $hut up, it was brilliant. Someone needed to get him back to earth.
if it was real bullying, something would have been done about it, just like the Shilpa situation. To me, it's just a group of dumb people bitching about him. We've had that for ages but because it is Freddie, it's considered as bullying. It's not.


would you like to be on the recieving end of it?

[Marc]

I agree! he was bullied throughout the duration of the first 4/5 weeks! So when he can hit back he's not allowed? at least his so called "bullying" wasn't as horrible and vile like Kris/Lisa etc. did early on in the series!

People who have turned away from him now need to think, was it really that bad? Cos it doesn't seem that bad to me! Plus it made it an awesome episode

[BB22]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Freddie bullied for half of the series ? Hold on, I harly call it bullying.
He was dreadful last night, I disliked him before but now it got worse.

What would you call it then?

Nothing. Just people bitching and disliking him. It'sn ot bullying, people throw this word way too easily. Jade was a bully on Shilpa, that was real bullying. Now, anyone who's bitching or having an argument is a nasty bully. As much as I don't like Lisa/Kris/David, they aren't bullies towards Freddie.

And then Freddie play the pity card, which pi$$es me off because he'll win due to that.

Interesting. With respect, the absolute last thing Freddie has done is play the pity card. Even at the absolute height of the hostility towards him from Lisa, Kris, Karly etc., Freddie was a ray of optimism generally in the House and especially in the Diary Room.

It is difficult to understand how so many people seem to misremember these things. It wasn't that long ago.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

OK, the singing was for a task...do you suggest he should not have practiced, and then messed up the task and let them have another reason to have a go at him?

God the guy could hardly breathe without one of them arseholes starting with him.

And something was only done in the shilpa situation because it was racist. If shilpa had been white, nothing would have kicked off quite the way it did.

But him singing was awful so I see why Karly told him to $hut up. We only see what's in the HL shows, but if he always sings like that, they have a reason to be pi$sed off.

Like I said, Team Lisa were dullards and having a go at hime for breathing wasn't nice but it's not bullying come on !

You can't compare 2 different situations. It was more than racist, it was bullying + racism. Jade didn't only make racist comments, she behaved like a total b!tch 24/7 to Shilpa by being horrible. That was real bullying, not the pity bitching and arguments Freddie had with the others.

[dbfs]

Best way to deal with it - laugh in her face shes laughable anyway and always has to revert to effing and blinding - she is repulsive get her out

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ

OK, the singing was for a task...do you suggest he should not have practiced, and then messed up the task and let them have another reason to have a go at him?

God the guy could hardly breathe without one of them arseholes starting with him.

And something was only done in the shilpa situation because it was racist. If shilpa had been white, nothing would have kicked off quite the way it did.

But him singing was awful so I see why Karly told him to $hut up. We only see what's in the HL shows, but if he always sings like that, they have a reason to be pi$sed off.

Like I said, Team Lisa were dullards and having a go at hime for breathing wasn't nice but it's not bullying come on !

You can't compare 2 different situations. It was more than racist, it was bullying + racism. Jade didn't only make racist comments, she behaved like a total b!tch 24/7 to Shilpa by being horrible. That was real bullying, not the pity bitching and arguments Freddie had with the others.

You were the one who brought the shilpa thing up.

And I dont see the situations as much different to be honest. Jade was vile to shilpa, kris/karly/lisa were vile to freddie. the only difference is there is no racist undertone.

And rodrigos singing was also awful, why not tell him to shut up? Because he wasnt the gangs chosen scapegoat, thats why.

[Marc]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ

He never once played the pity card, in fact in his diary room rants he even told the viewers that he was not playing the victim and had a plan.

It IS bullying if a group of people, not just one, repeatedly lay into you about stupid little things, usually all at the same time.

Karly let us know EXACTLY what was going on when she screamed at freddie for practicsing his singing, and then went back to the group for a pat on the back for 'finally having a go at asshole'

By saying he's not playing the victim...he is playing the victim and is trying to get sympathy, and it worked well. He has the biggest game plan out there and blames other people for that.

I laughed so much when Karly told him to $hut up, it was brilliant. Someone needed to get him back to earth.
if it was real bullying, something would have been done about it, just like the Shilpa situation. To me, it's just a group of dumb people bitching about him. We've had that for ages but because it is Freddie, it's considered as bullying. It's not.

Remy I don't know if you've been bullied or not mate but it makes you feel like sh*t. Freddie must have felt bad just being there knowing that they all didn't like him (4 evictions in a row). Its a surprise that he managed to stay optimistic throughout those weeks.

Shilpa's bullying only got caught out because it brought race into it, simple as.

[hennessy]

Capt. Remy leave it out.
Real bullying, bullying.
do you want to give us the scale you are using?
They guy broke down into tears ffs. wind your neck in

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

You were the one who brought the shilpa thing up.

And I dont see the situations as much different to be honest. Jade was vile to shilpa, kris/karly/lisa were vile to freddie. the only difference is there is no racist undertone.

And rodrigos singing was also awful, why not tell him to shut up? Because he wasnt the gangs chosen scapegoat, thats why.

I know I'm the one who brought it up but then you said it would have been different if she wasn't indian so I reacted. :thumbs:

Rodrigo's singing was also dreadful but he doesn't sing like that ALL the time. Viewers seem to forget that housemates live together 24/7, with no privacy and 0 space to get away when you need to. You can't expect people not to react or not have arguments.

[camertone]

halfwit's laugh was too fake, disgusting, creepy, patronizing, vile, and cringe worthy. disliking halfwit more and more each day!!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Marcjswp

Remy I don't know if you've been bullied or not mate but it makes you feel like sh*t. Freddie must have felt bad just being there knowing that they all didn't like him (4 evictions in a row). Its a surprise that he managed to stay optimistic throughout those weeks.

Shilpa's bullying only got caught out because it brought race into it, simple as.

I know what's bullying like, I'm not giving any details on my past life so I can understand. I agree on the fact Team Lisa behaved like dildos and terrible people towards him but calling it bullying ? Since the Shilpa incident, this word is thrown way too much from people who don't know what it really means. I know some of you do but not everyone does.

He survived 4 evictions in a row, but he never asked himself what was wrong about him so people dislike him that much. Then he realized something was wrong and since, he hasn't been nominated.

[NettoSuperstar!]

He didnt realize anything, they did!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

I know I'm the one who brought it up but then you said it would have been different if she wasn't indian so I reacted. :thumbs:

Rodrigo's singing was also dreadful but he doesn't sing like that ALL the time. Viewers seem to forget that housemates live together 24/7, with no privacy and 0 space to get away when you need to. You can't expect people not to react or not have arguments.

Still though, the point is that they were practising for a singing task...obviously he would have to sing. I could understand her kicking off if he was just singing randomly, but the fact is they had to learn the song...

If he didnt, they would have all laid into him for losing the task. That wasnt my original point anyway, why did she feel the need to go and tell the group immediately after she argued with him, that she had 'just had her first row with asshole'? For the fecking pat on the back that they gave her, thats why.

And seeing as you have not said anything else about the shilpa/jade v freddie/kris, lisa, karly...I take it you have accepted that I have a point. Which many would agree with anyway. The treatment is NO different except that it does not involve racism. Simple.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Ghostface77
Capt. Remy leave it out.
Real bullying, bullying.
do you want to give us the scale you are using?
They guy broke down into tears ffs. wind your neck in

Why not leaving if it was that bad ?
We only get to see what the producers want us to see so it's too easy to judge on a 45 minutes episode and no live feed.
I'm not excusing Kris and Lisa's behaviour, because they are right dumbass, towards him but calling it bullying is pushing it too far.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Then he realized something was wrong and since, he hasn't been nominated.

The reason for this was nothing to do with freddie...it was because, somehow, god knows how, the housemates heard an 'awwww' when freddies name was read out.

I still dont udnerstand how it happened, but they spoke about it a few times on live feed.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

And seeing as you have not said anything else about the shilpa/jade v freddie/kris, lisa, karly...I take it you have accepted that I have a point. Which many would agree with anyway. The treatment is NO different except that it does not involve racism. Simple.

You have point on the 'Kris and Lisa being mean to him' but being mean doesn't necessarily implies bullying. See the difference ?

Like I said, once again, the Shilpa vs Jade incident was more than racism, Jade pushed really hard on her, like really hard. Shilpa cried more than once and for real bullying reasons. I give it to you, racism added the 'shocking' factor to it but Shilpa vs Jade and Lisa/Kris vs Freddie can't be compared, taking the racism bit apart.

[hennessy]

online dictionary
Bully: 1. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.


Lisa and cohorts no?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ

And seeing as you have not said anything else about the shilpa/jade v freddie/kris, lisa, karly...I take it you have accepted that I have a point. Which many would agree with anyway. The treatment is NO different except that it does not involve racism. Simple.

You have point on the 'Kris and Lisa being mean to him' but being mean doesn't necessarily implies bullying. See the difference ?

Like I said, once again, the Shilpa vs Jade incident was more than racism, Jade pushed really hard on her, like really hard. Shilpa cried more than once and for real bullying reasons. I give it to you, racism added the 'shocking' factor to it but Shilpa vs Jade and Lisa/Kris vs Freddie can't be compared, taking the racism bit apart.

So...because shilpa cried more than once, this means she was bullied.

Because freddie only cried once...he wasnt.

yeah, totally get your logic there :rolleyes:

[Twilight]

Captain.Remy i bet if Freddie had toldl Karly to shut up, you would be all like oh hes bullying her:rolleyes:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

So...because shilpa cried more than once, this means she was bullied.

Because freddie only cried once...he wasnt.

yeah, totally get your logic there :rolleyes:

You don't get anything do you ? I just said Shilpa's bullying was way more intense than the so-called Freddie's treatment. That's it, nothing related to tears.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Twilight
Captain.Remy i bet if Freddie had toldl Karly to shut up, you would be all like oh hes bullying her:rolleyes:

Nope. I explained earlier about the singing thing, if Karly annoyed him then he had the right to tell her to $hut up. Same treatment for Rodrigo. Fair and square for everyone, he has the same right as the others. :wink:

I put my point accross so I won't be bothering replyng unless there is a valid point from any of you. :thumbs:

[Twilight]

So big headed:whistle:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ

So...because shilpa cried more than once, this means she was bullied.

Because freddie only cried once...he wasnt.

yeah, totally get your logic there :rolleyes:

You don't get anything do you ? I just said Shilpa's bullying was way more intense than the so-called Freddie's treatment. That's it, nothing related to tears.

I dont get anything? LOL

You put your point across shoite thats why.

Anyway, it was no more intense. Even if it was, just because something is slightly less harsh, does not mean it is not bullying.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Twilight
So big headed:whistle:

Not really. I have nothing else to say on the matter as I said everything I thought about it so I won't waste more time if there is nothing else to debate about. Time to grow up sweetie. :thumbs:

[Twilight]

spot on Vicky:lovedup:

[muchadoaboutnothing]

In a way, by getting back at Lisa with his patronising hyena laugh he has lowered himself to Lisa's standard. Hardly mature for a guy who is supposed to be so astute. But of course he wanted to ensure that his Queen Bea could see that he can stand up for himself. I thought he was awful and completely lost his dignity. Freddie NOT to win (and I really was a fan).

[lucifer1968]

can't stand lisa or david:yuk:

[Twilight]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Twilight
So big headed:whistle:
Time to grow up sweetie. :thumbs: You what? saying that make you look about 5 years old

[k1ck3m0n]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Are we serious people?
Really?
Halfwit has been a decent person over the coarse of BB10 run, bullied for over half of that time and the ONE time he has the temerity to rile Lisa he is hated by so called former supporters.
To the people who unwavered in their support for Lisa, she is the epitome of spite.
She walked away (if she remained away she could of been called dignified) but came in with a face of thunder, spoiling for a bigger fight.
From what I recall it didn't get out of hand until she got into his grill swearing and pointing, if a woman does that to me I'm gonna laugh. What else can I do?
He shouldn't of followed them through to cont. but in a fight it's hard to think straight.
I Think this was the boiling point for HW.
All we got from Lisa was swearing and vows that this will never be over. David acted a lot better than his elder.

Halfwit has been losing his appeal recently.
He doesn't know what Bea's like only what she shows him.
I didn't forget that he was bullied to the point of crying and shunned by almost everyone for 5 weeks and I say I'm glad Lisa got bit on the bum.
GOOD ON HIM!
I didn't really care for Freddie until last night.
To all the Lisa lovers and Freddie haters...

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/48879-1/chaps.jpg
rant over:devil:
Couldn't agree more. I thought Freddie was excellent last night, you could just see all the cack he'd had to deal with that first 5 weeks coming to the surface. Lisa showed herself up for the semi literate, ill controlled, ineloquent imbecile she is. I wasn't a massive fan of Freddie's before last night, but he's got another new fan here. Lisa out! David is gullible and a bit naive, but I think without her malignant presence he could be quite a fun housemate.
Last night was possibly my favourite HLs show of the series so far.:thumbs2:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

I dont get anything? LOL

You put your point across shoite thats why.

Anyway, it was no more intense. Even if it was, just because something is slightly less harsh, does not mean it is not bullying.

Well, you seem not to get what I said. You tried to make me say something I didn't. You misread it but that's fine.

I agree, it's not because it was less harsh than it's not bullying, but still, what happened between him and the others was painful to watch but it's not bullying. I don't dislike him for having arguments with the others, but only because he knew how to play with it. I don't like people who always try to get sympathy from the others.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Twilight
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Twilight
So big headed:whistle:
Time to grow up sweetie. :thumbs: You what? saying that make you look about 5 years old

But I'm still enough intelligent to make a full post with arguments and points to put accoss. Something you clearly cannot do.
I'm saying this for your own good but then I'm arguing with a 13 y-o little girl.
We don't agree on the Freddie thing but there was no need to start an argument. And then it comes from you...again.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Well, you seem not to get what I said. You tried to make me say something I didn't. You misread it but that's fine.

I agree, it's not because it was less harsh than it's not bullying, but still, what happened between him and the others was painful to watch but it's not bullying. I don't dislike him for having arguments with the others, but only because he knew how to play with it. I don't like people who always try to get sympathy from the others.

Again you think he was going for the sympathy vote. if he was doing this, then by no reasoning would he tell the viewers this...or fight back. He would have just acted all upset etc. like sree did, and complained endlessly in the DR.

And I still do not get your reasons for saying this is not bullying but the shilpa incident was...it is exactly the same, minus the racism...:conf:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

And I still do not get your reasons for saying this is not bullying but the shilpa incident was...it is exactly the same, minus the racism...:conf:

Re-watch CBB5 and you'll understand. Jade was more of a bully than Lisa will ever be. Lisa is a bitch, fair enough we agree on that, but Jade didn't even have to bitch to be horrible. But it's not about Jade. I was glad for once BB did something about it. The racism thing took it to a whole new level, I get that, but the basic bullying was real bullying.

[Twilight]

But bullying is exactly the same there not "real bullying" or"Fake bullying" any Bullying is bad, but just because you don't like who was being bullied it fine obv..

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ

And I still do not get your reasons for saying this is not bullying but the shilpa incident was...it is exactly the same, minus the racism...:conf:

Re-watch CBB5 and you'll understand. Jade was more of a bully than Lisa will ever be. Lisa is a bitch, fair enough we agree on that, but Jade didn't even have to bitch to be horrible. But it's not about Jade. I was glad for once BB did something about it. The racism thing took it to a whole new level, I get that, but the basic bullying was real bullying.

I dont need to rewatch it. I remember fine. Jade was absolutely vile in her treatment of shilpa. The same as lisa and co have been with freddie. They didnt necesarily have to bitch either to be horrible. Remember the episode when charlie and kris thought it would be funny to play 'hide and seek'. In an attempt to make freddie look like a thick ****? The fact that he clicked on to what they were doing does not change things at all. It was ridiculously uncomfortable to watch and I was infact, and Im not ashamed to admit it, nearly crying when it seemed like he thought they were being mates...until he said he knew what was going on.

You cannot say one is bullying and the other is not. They are the same.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ

And I still do not get your reasons for saying this is not bullying but the shilpa incident was...it is exactly the same, minus the racism...:conf:

Re-watch CBB5 and you'll understand. Jade was more of a bully than Lisa will ever be. Lisa is a bitch, fair enough we agree on that, but Jade didn't even have to bitch to be horrible. But it's not about Jade. I was glad for once BB did something about it. The racism thing took it to a whole new level, I get that, but the basic bullying was real bullying.

I dont need to rewatch it. I remember fine. Jade was absolutely vile in her treatment of shilpa. The same as lisa and co have been with freddie. They didnt necesarily have to bitch either to be horrible. Remember the episode when charlie and kris thought it would be funny to play 'hide and seek'. In an attempt to make freddie look like a thick ****? The fact that he clicked on to what they were doing does not change things at all. It was ridiculously uncomfortable to watch and I was infact, and Im not ashamed to admit it, nearly crying when it seemed like he thought they were being mates...until he said he knew what was going on.

You cannot say one is bullying and the other is not. They are the same. Yeah i kinda cried when they did they to

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Twilight
But bullying is exactly the same there not "real bullying" or"Fake bullying" any Bullying is bad, but just because you don't like who was being bullied it fine obv..

When the hell did I say thehre is fake bullying ? There isn't. I just said the treatment Freddie got isn't bullying.

[BB22]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Twilight
But bullying is exactly the same there not "real bullying" or"Fake bullying" any Bullying is bad, but just because you don't like who was being bullied it fine obv..

When the hell did I say thehre is fake bullying ? There isn't. I just said the treatment Freddie got isn't bullying.

Can we look forward to you leaping to Freddie's defence the next time (probably within the next minute or two) someone posts about how is now "bullying" Lisa and David?

I am not being sarcastic, by the way. I am merely checking to see whether you are willing to hold a consistent position on the issue.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Twilight
But bullying is exactly the same there not "real bullying" or"Fake bullying" any Bullying is bad, but just because you don't like who was being bullied it fine obv..

When the hell did I say thehre is fake bullying ? There isn't. I just said the treatment Freddie got isn't bullying. I didn't say you said fake bullying its just you said real bullying
So they must be fake bullying aswell
And just tell me how you can tell if one is bullying and the other is not
Because to me they was the samething

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : BB22
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Twilight
But bullying is exactly the same there not "real bullying" or"Fake bullying" any Bullying is bad, but just because you don't like who was being bullied it fine obv..

When the hell did I say thehre is fake bullying ? There isn't. I just said the treatment Freddie got isn't bullying.

Can we look forward to you leaping to Freddie's defence the next time (probably within the next minute or two) someone posts about how is now "bullying" Lisa and David?

I am not being sarcastic, by the way. I am merely checking to see whether you are willing to hold a consistent position on the issue.

Freddie wasn't a bully last night towards Lisa and David. he was just being stupid. :thumbs:

[virtuoso88]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Freddie bullied for half of the series ? Hold on, I harly call it bullying.
He was dreadful last night, I disliked him before but now it got worse.

What would you call it then?

Nothing. Just people bitching and disliking him. It'sn ot bullying, people throw this word way too easily. Jade was a bully on Shilpa, that was real bullying. Now, anyone who's bitching or having an argument is a nasty bully. As much as I don't like Lisa/Kris/David, they aren't bullies towards Freddie.

And then Freddie play the pity card, which pi$$es me off because he'll win due to that.

He never once played the pity card, in fact in his diary room rants he even told the viewers that he was not playing the victim and had a plan.

It IS bullying if a group of people, not just one, repeatedly lay into you about stupid little things, usually all at the same time.

Karly let us know EXACTLY what was going on when she screamed at freddie for practicsing his singing, and then went back to the group for a pat on the back for 'finally having a go at asshole'

You are so right on the target! :colour:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Twilight
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Twilight
But bullying is exactly the same there not "real bullying" or"Fake bullying" any Bullying is bad, but just because you don't like who was being bullied it fine obv..

When the hell did I say thehre is fake bullying ? There isn't. I just said the treatment Freddie got isn't bullying. I didn't say you said fake bullying its just you said real bullying
So they must be fake bullying aswell
And just tell me how you can tell if one is bullying and the other is not
Because to me they was the samething

Right so I miswrote it. I said real bullying because Freddie's treatment isn't bullying . :thumbs:

[Twilight]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Twilight
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Twilight
But bullying is exactly the same there not "real bullying" or"Fake bullying" any Bullying is bad, but just because you don't like who was being bullied it fine obv..

When the hell did I say thehre is fake bullying ? There isn't. I just said the treatment Freddie got isn't bullying. I didn't say you said fake bullying its just you said real bullying
So they must be fake bullying aswell
And just tell me how you can tell if one is bullying and the other is not
Because to me they was the samething

Right so I miswrote it. I said real bullying because Freddie's treatment isn't bullying . :thumbs: But they was they same thing

[davidalbert]

I loved Freddie's laugh..and YES it shook the House........
Freddie is HUMAN, folks get over it....its just amazing the House hasnt had more rows since Bunny gate.....
who would you rather support...a one-dimensional like cHarlie who kept his head down during the row...or Freddie who gets 'out there' .........I found the manicness, almost maniacelness of his laugh, strangely appealing te he......
why worry about the folk on here who took against freddie from the start..his posh plum in mouth etc.......let tHEM go..........

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy


Right so I miswrote it. I said real bullying because Freddie's treatment isn't bullying . :thumbs:

BS.

You happened to totally ignore one of my posts, which i think had one of the most valid points in comparison to what you are saying. Care to attempt to turn that round to make it sound like that instance wasnt bullying?

[BB22]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : BB22
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Twilight
But bullying is exactly the same there not "real bullying" or"Fake bullying" any Bullying is bad, but just because you don't like who was being bullied it fine obv..

When the hell did I say thehre is fake bullying ? There isn't. I just said the treatment Freddie got isn't bullying.

Can we look forward to you leaping to Freddie's defence the next time (probably within the next minute or two) someone posts about how is now "bullying" Lisa and David?

I am not being sarcastic, by the way. I am merely checking to see whether you are willing to hold a consistent position on the issue.

Freddie wasn't a bully last night towards Lisa and David. he was just being stupid. :thumbs:

Splendid.

I think there are a lot of people on this forum who really do apply double standards.

[k1ck3m0n]

Originally posted by virtuoso88
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : VickyJ
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Freddie bullied for half of the series ? Hold on, I harly call it bullying.
He was dreadful last night, I disliked him before but now it got worse.

What would you call it then?

Nothing. Just people bitching and disliking him. It'sn ot bullying, people throw this word way too easily. Jade was a bully on Shilpa, that was real bullying. Now, anyone who's bitching or having an argument is a nasty bully. As much as I don't like Lisa/Kris/David, they aren't bullies towards Freddie.

And then Freddie play the pity card, which pi$$es me off because he'll win due to that.

He never once played the pity card, in fact in his diary room rants he even told the viewers that he was not playing the victim and had a plan.

It IS bullying if a group of people, not just one, repeatedly lay into you about stupid little things, usually all at the same time.

Karly let us know EXACTLY what was going on when she screamed at freddie for practicsing his singing, and then went back to the group for a pat on the back for 'finally having a go at asshole'

You are so right on the target! :colour:
S[pot on :cheer2:

[starbell]

HE IS A BULLY END OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nono:

[hennessy]

lol @ starbell, all you ended up doing was look foolish and bumping this thread...ty

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : BB22

Splendid.

I think there are a lot of people on this forum who really do apply double standards.

Ok so tell me how Freddie was being a bully last night ? No double standards from me for sure. :thumbs:
It was a conversation between deaf people, the didn't even considered what the other one was saying. But that was good to watch. :hugesmile:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Ghostface77
lol @ starbell, all you ended up doing was look foolish and bumping this thread...ty

Got to agree on that one. Freddie isn't a bully, I mean, Lisa needed to hear the truth but then Freddie wasn't the appropriate person to do so. And he did it badly, now he lost fans.

[oopaloompa]

Well hes gone up in my estimation. Lisa cant cope with a decent argument all she can do is try and shoult louder than the other, then she thinks she has won when they turn there back on her

[hennessy]

@Captain.Remy
Although I disagree with you on the meaning and extremities of bullying I respect that you didn't resort to name calling, impartial judgement and overall resolution.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Ghostface77
@Captain.Remy
Although I disagree with you on the meaning and extremities of bullying I respect that you didn't resort to name calling, impartial judgement and overall resolution.

Thanks. I dislike Freddie but there is no need to insult him, fair enough. I just don't like the fact he's playing on his weakness, that's it. At some point he was in my top 4 but he dropped again. I know he's going to win, it's too obvious not to get a surprise winner. And that sucks.

[BB22]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : BB22

Splendid.

I think there are a lot of people on this forum who really do apply double standards.

Ok so tell me how Freddie was being a bully last night ? No double standards from me for sure. :thumbs:
It was a conversation between deaf people, the didn't even considered what the other one was saying. But that was good to watch. :hugesmile:

Why should I tell you that? I think the accusation that Freddie was "bullying" David is utterly ludicrous, as I have stated in several threads.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : BB22
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : BB22

Splendid.

I think there are a lot of people on this forum who really do apply double standards.

Ok so tell me how Freddie was being a bully last night ? No double standards from me for sure. :thumbs:
It was a conversation between deaf people, the didn't even considered what the other one was saying. But that was good to watch. :hugesmile:

Why should I tell you that? I think the accusation that Freddie was "bullying" David is utterly ludicrous, as I have stated in several threads.

It's ridiculous I know. Freddie is nowhere a bully, he's not strong enough to be one. He thought he was going to own David but he didn't, that's it. Lisa, David and Freddie just proved how stupid and retarted they are.

[redrum81]

Freddie, aka Halfwit, has shown his true colours. He has come accross as a nasty individual with his comments on last night's show. I am not surprised that his odds have drifted out and he is no longer favourite to win, Rodridgo or Dogface to win.

[BB22]

I thought Freddie was hilarious, especially when he started laughing at Lisa's rant.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by superfanno1
Originally posted by Ghostface77
Are we serious people?
Really?
Halfwit has been a decent person over the coarse of BB10 run, bullied for over half of that time and the ONE time he has the temerity to rile Lisa he is hated by so called former supporters.
To the people who unwavered in their support for Lisa, she is the epitome of spite.
She walked away (if she remained away she could of been called dignified) but came in with a face of thunder, spoiling for a bigger fight.
From what I recall it didn't get out of hand until she got into his grill swearing and pointing, if a woman does that to me I'm gonna laugh. What else can I do?
He shouldn't of followed them through to cont. but in a fight it's hard to think straight.
think this was the boiling point for HW.
All we got from Lisa was swearing and vows that this will
never be over.

Halfwit has been losing his appeal recently.
He doesn't know what Bea's like only what she shows him.
I didn't forget that he was bullied to the point of crying and shunned by almost everyone for 5 weeks and I say I'm glad Lisa got bit on the bum.
GOOD ON HIM!
I didn't really care for Freddie until last night.
To all the Lisa lovers and Freddie haters...

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/48879-1/chaps.jpg
rant over:devil:


Spot on.

Lisa is a 41yr old loser who acts like a teenage with an asbo.

Umm - I can't believe you said that!!!:joker:

Rather reminds of someone though - Umm - perhaps a 35 year-old loser who acts like a teenager with an asbo - now who could that be - can't quite remember his name - nevermind - everyone knows exactly who I am talking about!!!!!!!!:dance:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE


Umm - I can't believe you said that!!!:joker:

Rather reminds of someone though - Umm - perhaps a 35 year-old loser who acts like a teenager with an asbo - now who could that be - can't quite remember his name - nevermind - everyone knows exactly who I am talking about!!!!!!!!:dance:

This thread is in no way to do with marcus.

I swear you fancy him, you are so obsessed that you have to mention him in EVERY thread, even when it is totally off topic from what is being discussed.

You are like the opposite of what dennissabre was with noirin...its quite pathetic.

[hennessy]

COMMON_SENSE did you know if superfanno1 (the person you commented on) is a Marcus fan? rather presumptious

[halfacrown]

Lisa was the one who suffered the loss of control last night. It was good to see a bit of reality on a reality show with Freddie confronting Lisa and hitting a raw nerve. Lisa likes things to be hidden and lost it when her slyness was challenged.

I can see Freddie gaining a lot of viewer votes from people who watch the show occasionally but are not obsessed with it.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE


Umm - I can't believe you said that!!!:joker:

Rather reminds of someone though - Umm - perhaps a 35 year-old loser who acts like a teenager with an asbo - now who could that be - can't quite remember his name - nevermind - everyone knows exactly who I am talking about!!!!!!!!:dance:

This thread is in no way to do with marcus.

I swear you fancy him, you are so obsessed that you have to mention him in EVERY thread, even when it is totally off topic from what is being discussed.

You are like the opposite of what dennissabre was with noirin...its quite pathetic.

Don't want to get into a row - but my point was perfectly valid!!

A Marcus fan was criticizing another older hm's innappropriate immature behaviour - whilst at the same time supporting Marcus - another older hm who has been acting like a 'naughty schoolboy' from day one! Hypocricy, double standards - whatever you want to call it - amounts to the same thing! I was just pointing this out!!

This is what this forum is all about!!

How is that being obsessed! Your'e just making it personal now!!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

Don't want to get into a row - but my point was perfectly valid!!

A Marcus fan was criticizing another older hm's innappropriate immature behaviour - whilst at the same time supporting Marcus - another older hm who has been acting like a 'naughty schoolboy' from day one! Hypocricy, double standards - whatever you want to call it - amounts to the same thing! I was just pointing this out!!

This is what this forum is all about!!

How is that being obsessed! Your'e just making it personal now!!

Because EVERY post you make is about hating marcus, or slagging his fans, or both. I have yet to see you make a consturctive post about anything else. You have to totally turn every conversation to include marcus. You could have ignored that one comment, but no, it was another chance to have a go at both marcus and his fans, so you chose to bring your bile here also.

Gets very tedious seeing the same sh*t everywhere. If you hate him that much, you should have spent more money when he was up for eviction. Simple.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

Don't want to get into a row - but my point was perfectly valid!!

A Marcus fan was criticizing another older hm's innappropriate immature behaviour - whilst at the same time supporting Marcus - another older hm who has been acting like a 'naughty schoolboy' from day one! Hypocricy, double standards - whatever you want to call it - amounts to the same thing! I was just pointing this out!!

This is what this forum is all about!!

How is that being obsessed! Your'e just making it personal now!!

Because EVERY post you make is about hating marcus, or slagging his fans, or both. I have yet to see you make a consturctive post about anything else. You have to totally turn every conversation to include marcus. You could have ignored that one comment, but no, it was another chance to have a go at both marcus and his fans, so you chose to bring your bile here also.

Gets very tedious seeing the same sh*t everywhere. If you hate him that much, you should have spent more money when he was up for eviction. Simple.

I have made lots of constructive posts - quite a few on Hira, Siavash throughout - Freddie and Bea before recent events and several others! Easy enough to check if you feel the need!!

The whole forum is repetitive - everyone, whoever they support/dislike - are making basically repetitive comments!

It's unavoidable - the name of the game!!

You might not like my views, any more than I like yours, but to attack me for just drawing attention to the hypocricy of a given comment is unfair. People from all sides do the same!!

Hypocricy is rife on this forum - and if someone notices me doing it - then they would be within their rights to point that out - we probably all do it subconsciously - but there is nothing wrong with pointing it out!! That is what healthy debate is all about!!

Maybe I go into a bit of a rant now and again - a lot do - including yourself - but my language is never unpleasant or abusive, like many, (and before you jump on that, no I don't mean you) and, on the whole, I try to give a logical argument!

So your comments eg. pathetic were themselves pathetic!!

If you don't like my views fine - just ignore them - I will ignore yours! Okay!!

[HELLIWONTGO]

Why must some members (sheep!) look for any excuse to argue, if someone disagrees with the post then ignore it, or is that beyond the capabilities of certain people on here?:yuk: