Freddie Has the chance gone? [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

BBmassive

06-08-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Course he can.

He hasnt lost as much support as the forums show. source ?

How on earth can i have a source to say he hasnt lost as much support as the forums show?

Source that he has? YOU claimed he hadnt lost as much support as the forum show ,i wondered how you KNEW this and wanted a link to read it myself

BBmassive

06-08-2009, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by Twiggy
Well if he doesn't win, then who will? Could be Marcus.

Sophie. :thumbs2: I think Sophie has a big chance

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Blink_Me
He hasn't blown anything. That's the thing with Big Brother, you could easily be liked one week and be hated in another week. So many fickle fans out there.

I'm not sure I agree with that. My guess is that most people are fairly constant with who the favour and disfavour. Of course, when new people are introduced, i takes time to get to know them and they naturally change the dynamic.

However, when major events like last nights HLs occur and even the besotted can't fail to see a bad side to an individual in whom they had invested their trust, major chages inallegiance can occur. That is hardy fickle.

halfacrown

06-08-2009, 10:53 AM

Freddie doesn't seem to be doing too badly on any polls I've seen, including the one on this site!

Maybe the anti-Freddie propaganda isn't having the hoped for effect.

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Course he can.

He hasnt lost as much support as the forums show. source ?

How on earth can i have a source to say he hasnt lost as much support as the forums show?

Source that he has? YOU claimed he hadnt lost as much support as the forum show ,i wondered how you KNEW this and wanted a link to read it myself

Wow...well IN MY OPINION he can. IN MY OPINION he hasnt lost as much support as the forums show. Happy?

God i didnt realise some people were so thick.

HBB1508

06-08-2009, 10:54 AM

I don't think he has blown his chances at all - he was having a discussion with others when Lisa barged in shouted and walked off - came back and had another go at HW then lowered herself to swearing insults. All Freddie did was laugh (albeit manically in his usual odd way) and tell Lisa that she didn't like being up for eviction. Everyone in the house argues at some point in time and it did give us something to watch on the HL show for a change. Personally I don't think anyone came off worse than anyone else.

BBmassive

06-08-2009, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Course he can.

He hasnt lost as much support as the forums show. source ?

How on earth can i have a source to say he hasnt lost as much support as the forums show?

Source that he has? YOU claimed he hadnt lost as much support as the forum show ,i wondered how you KNEW this and wanted a link to read it myself

Wow...well IN MY OPINION he can. IN MY OPINION he hasnt lost as much support as the forums show. Happy?

God i didnt realise some people were so thick. When i post something that is my opinion i add IMO, it saves people thinking its a fact

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Blink_Me
He hasn't blown anything. That's the thing with Big Brother, you could easily be liked one week and be hated in another week. So many fickle fans out there.

I'm not sure I agree with that. My guess is that most people are fairly constant with who the favour and disfavour. Of course, when new people are introduced, i takes time to get to know them and they naturally change the dynamic.

However, when major events like last nights HLs occur and even the besotted can't fail to see a bad side to an individual in whom they had invested their trust, major chages inallegiance can occur. That is hardy fickle.

it wasnt a major event. it was an arguement, theres a big difference.

If he had STABBED lisa then yea, I could see your point, however, he laughed at her...not quite the same is it :rolleyes:

Claymores

06-08-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Course he can.

He hasnt lost as much support as the forums show. source ?

How on earth can i have a source to say he hasnt lost as much support as the forums show?

Source that he has? YOU claimed he hadnt lost as much support as the forum show ,i wondered how you KNEW this and wanted a link to read it myself

It's some form of reverse logic that Vicks is using - apparently you can make random claims, then ask for proof that the random claims aren't gospel :thumbs:

shash

06-08-2009, 10:55 AM

he'll be ok so long as this was a one-off and it isn't the new Freddie, although I am not so sure he was ever the certainty to win it that it has been made out to be, not for some weeks anyway. What hurt his chances more than anything was Bea, although he behaved like an idiot in that row anyone can be forgiven for a lapse. Some have been idiots for the entire duration ;) It was only a shock and damaging because he reacted on Lisa's level and not in the more mature, reasoned and intelligent way we have come to expect of him. He seemed drunk.

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by BBmassive

When i post something that is my opinion i add IMO, it saves people thinking its a fact

Well how on earth could you assume that statement was fact?

Which source could possibly log the favourites of EVERY viewer?

BigBrotherfan4ever

06-08-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Bradley.
has freddie blown his chances? Can he still win after lasts nights HL show?

Yes, I think we can be fairly confident that sense will prevail as he exposed his true self. Freddie does NOT deserve to win. Would totally agree with that The_Long_Run, i've really gone off him since Bea in, cause he follow her around like lost puppy, but after last night the way he behaved with Lisa & David it was just vile, i hate as much as i hate Marcus now.

BBmassive

06-08-2009, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by BigBrotherfan4ever
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Bradley.
has freddie blown his chances? Can he still win after lasts nights HL show?

Yes, I think we can be fairly confident that sense will prevail as he exposed his true self. Freddie does NOT deserve to win. Would totally agree with that The_Long_Run, i've really gone off him since Bea in, cause he follow her around like lost puppy, but after last night the way he behaved with Lisa & David it was just vile, i hate as much as i hate Marcus now. Ditto ! :thumbs:

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Blink_Me
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Bradley.
has freddie blown his chances? Can he still win after lasts nights HL show?

Yes, I think we can be fairly confident that sense will prevail as he exposed his true self. Freddie does NOT deserve to win.

And Rachel and Cameron deserved to win it?

Your logic is flawed. What I said was Freddie does NOT deserve to win. (This because he has done unforgivable thngs). He should be out of consideration his actions mean he does not deserve it

Neither Rachel nor Cameron did anything to make then not deserve to win. (They did nothing unforgivable). Hence they WERE in the mix and desrved to be there.

Clearly, this is my opinion only, but I am confident it will be a majority opinion.

bigbrother10uk

06-08-2009, 10:59 AM

hopefully not

PooBay

06-08-2009, 11:00 AM

A few weeks ago it was his to throw away..now he's got a little work to do.

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Blink_Me
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Bradley.
has freddie blown his chances? Can he still win after lasts nights HL show?

Yes, I think we can be fairly confident that sense will prevail as he exposed his true self. Freddie does NOT deserve to win.

And Rachel and Cameron deserved to win it?

Your logic is flawed. What I said was Freddie does NOT deserve to win. (This because he has done unforgivable thngs). He should be out of consideration his actions mean he does not deserve it

Neither Rachel nor Cameron did anything to make then not deserve to win. (They did nothing unforgivable). Hence they WERE in the mix and desrved to be there.

Clearly, this is my opinion only, but I am confident it will be a majority opinion.

Which person in there, apart from Hira, has done unforgivable things, though it could be argued even hira has lied to peoples faces...

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Blink_Me
He hasn't blown anything. That's the thing with Big Brother, you could easily be liked one week and be hated in another week. So many fickle fans out there.

I'm not sure I agree with that. My guess is that most people are fairly constant with who the favour and disfavour. Of course, when new people are introduced, i takes time to get to know them and they naturally change the dynamic.

However, when major events like last nights HLs occur and even the besotted can't fail to see a bad side to an individual in whom they had invested their trust, major chages inallegiance can occur. That is hardy fickle.

it wasnt a major event. it was an arguement, theres a big difference.

If he had STABBED lisa then yea, I could see your point, however, he laughed at her...not quite the same is it :rolleyes:

There is none so blind as she who will not see.

Freddie was boorish, overbearing, arrogant and agressive. He showed his true colours. IN MY OPINION this was major event as he has not been explicitly himself until this point, though there have been clear indicators that those who have long doubted him have perceived.

The major event was that he exposed it to EVERYONE (except the blind).

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

There is none so blind as she who will not see.

Freddie was boorish, overbearing, arrogant and agressive. He showed his true colours. IN MY OPINION this was major event as he has not been explicitly himself until this point, though there have been clear indicators that those who have long doubted him have perceived.

The major event was that he exposed it to EVERYONE (except the blind).

Of course it is your opinion, as a hater of freddie, that the side we saw to him last night was his true self coming out. Because it couldnt possibly be that he just snapped :wink:

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by The_Long_Run

There is none so blind as she who will not see.

Freddie was boorish, overbearing, arrogant and agressive. He showed his true colours. IN MY OPINION this was major event as he has not been explicitly himself until this point, though there have been clear indicators that those who have long doubted him have perceived.

The major event was that he exposed it to EVERYONE (except the blind).

Of course it is your opinion, as a hater of freddie, that the side we saw to him last night was his true self coming out. Because it couldnt possibly be that he just snapped :wink:

So, you think his actions last night were acceptable?

I suspect the majority of right thinking peple would NOT consider his agression acceptable. Time will tell, when a man who was seen as a CLEAR favourite, fails to deliver the victory many had predicted.

Twilight

06-08-2009, 11:23 AM

The_Long_Run you seem to think your always right and the fact is you haven't been right one time :P

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Blink_Me
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Bradley.
has freddie blown his chances? Can he still win after lasts nights HL show?

Yes, I think we can be fairly confident that sense will prevail as he exposed his true self. Freddie does NOT deserve to win.

And Rachel and Cameron deserved to win it?

Your logic is flawed. What I said was Freddie does NOT deserve to win. (This because he has done unforgivable thngs). He should be out of consideration his actions mean he does not deserve it

Neither Rachel nor Cameron did anything to make then not deserve to win. (They did nothing unforgivable). Hence they WERE in the mix and desrved to be there.

Clearly, this is my opinion only, but I am confident it will be a majority opinion.

Which person in there, apart from Hira, has done unforgivable things, though it could be argued even hira has lied to peoples faces...

I'm not sure how to read that post?:conf2:

Are you suggesting Hira has done unforgivable things? Bizarre.

I personally cannot forgive:-

1. Lisa for the way she treated Freddie in the beginning and being such an unnecessarily unpleasant character;
2. Freddie for being such an agressive an unnecessarily unpleasant character to certain individuals and belittling them;
3. Marcus for his salacious treatment of Noirin ( a woman who I believe would have a case against him for sexual assault ) and his unfaitreatment of Siavash;
4. Bea for her unfounded attacks on people and her agressive superiority designed to belittle people less fortunate than herself.

No knives were used, nobody was stabbed, but these actions should not be tolerated in a civilised society. In my opinion.

davidalbert

06-08-2009, 11:27 AM

...lose some, gain some.........Nadia rowed in the House with Victor in BB5 and still won.......

danu_schafer

06-08-2009, 11:27 AM

The Long Run......how was he aggressive when he was laughing? Lisa was more aggressive by shouting, her body language screamed that she was taking a more aggressive stance....he was just sat laughing!

I can't believe people have lost respect for Freddie when for the first time, he clearly stuck up for himself after all the crap from Kris and Karly and Lisa that he's took. It was only 3 weeks ago people were saying they wish some one would stand up to Lisa, now he has and everyone suddenly backs Lisa?

I was proud of Freddie last night! Go Halfwit, keep your chin up!

Siavash to win :cheer:

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by The_Long_Run

There is none so blind as she who will not see.

Freddie was boorish, overbearing, arrogant and agressive. He showed his true colours. IN MY OPINION this was major event as he has not been explicitly himself until this point, though there have been clear indicators that those who have long doubted him have perceived.

The major event was that he exposed it to EVERYONE (except the blind).

Of course it is your opinion, as a hater of freddie, that the side we saw to him last night was his true self coming out. Because it couldnt possibly be that he just snapped :wink:

So, you think his actions last night were acceptable?

I suspect the majority of right thinking peple would NOT consider his agression acceptable. Time will tell, when a man who was seen as a CLEAR favourite, fails to deliver the victory many had predicted.

Im sorry, I did not see any aggression whatsoever from freddie, quite the opposite, he was relatively calm and collected. He did look like a bit of a dick laughing on though, but in no way was he aggressive. I dont think you watch the same show as me, seriously...

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 11:29 AM

'3. Marcus for his salacious treatment of Noirin ( a woman who I believe would have a case against him for sexual assault ) and his unfaitreatment of Siavash;'

PMSL she lead him on and was loving the attention :joker:

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Twilight
The_Long_Run you seem to think your always right and the fact is you haven't been right one time :P

Well, lets see if I can break the habits of a lifetime then and be right for the first time. Time alone will tell...

FREDDIE WILL NOT WIN.

This is not an opinion, it is a prediction. Wonder if I'll be right "for the first time". :kiss:

shash

06-08-2009, 11:32 AM

I think these statements that Freddie has shown his true colours are hasty and over the top judgements. It was not his finest hour, I freely admit, but 5 minutes like this from 8 or 9 weeks is probably a moment of madness or frustration getting the better of him, or he is a damn fine actor the rest of the time. Come on, we've all lost control of ourselves and what we say during a heated argument at least once in our lives, and that's without the pressure of sharing a big brother house with strangers who hate us.

Twilight

06-08-2009, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Twilight
The_Long_Run you seem to think your always right and the fact is you haven't been right one time :P

Well, lets see if I can break the habits of a lifetime then and be right for the first time. Time alone will tell...

FREDDIE WILL NOT WIN.

This is not an opinion, it is a prediction. Wonder if I'll be right "for the first time". :kiss: I can happily say you won't be right

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
'3. Marcus for his salacious treatment of Noirin ( a woman who I believe would have a case against him for sexual assault ) and his unfaitreatment of Siavash;'

PMSL she lead him on and was loving the attention :joker:
NO means NO! A woman who says so clearly NO, should be respected by her pursuer. Marcus assaulted her! He would not have got away with that sort of action outside the house.

(As an aside, I'm not sure what a heavy metal has to do with any sort of defence of his actions)

halfacrown

06-08-2009, 11:34 AM

There wasn't any aggression from Freddie or bullying. He may have been like a dog with a bone, but if was amusing and it would have made a lot of people cheer. There was nothing like the chilling feeling that was felt when Lisa set her group against him.

They are all adults and although Lisa was wounded morally she'll survive, at least till Friday...

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by shash
I think these statements that Freddie has shown his true colours are hasty and over the top judgements. It was not his finest hour, I freely admit, but 5 minutes like this from 8 or 9 weeks is probably a moment of madness or frustration getting the better of him, or he is a damn fine actor the rest of the time. Come on, we've all lost control of ourselves and what we say during a heated argument at least once in our lives, and that's without the pressure of sharing a big brother house with strangers who hate us.
I know what I saw. ( and it was DEEPLY unpleasant)

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by VickyJ
'3. Marcus for his salacious treatment of Noirin ( a woman who I believe would have a case against him for sexual assault ) and his unfaitreatment of Siavash;'

PMSL she lead him on and was loving the attention :joker:
NO means NO! A woman who says so clearly NO, should be respected by her pursuer. Marcus assaulted her! He would not have got away with that sort of action outside the house.

(As an aside, I'm not sure what a heavy metal has to do with any sort of defence of his actions)

If she had been bothered, she would have formally complained to BB, or to the police when she left.

She said no, but acted in a total different way.

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by shash
I think these statements that Freddie has shown his true colours are hasty and over the top judgements. It was not his finest hour, I freely admit, but 5 minutes like this from 8 or 9 weeks is probably a moment of madness or frustration getting the better of him, or he is a damn fine actor the rest of the time. Come on, we've all lost control of ourselves and what we say during a heated argument at least once in our lives, and that's without the pressure of sharing a big brother house with strangers who hate us.
I know what I saw. ( and it was DEEPLY unpleasant)

Which just happens to be something totally different to the rest of us...as usual.

You see things from your own biased view, and some of your posts are very laughable because of this.

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by VickyJ
'3. Marcus for his salacious treatment of Noirin ( a woman who I believe would have a case against him for sexual assault ) and his unfaitreatment of Siavash;'

PMSL she lead him on and was loving the attention :joker:
NO means NO! A woman who says so clearly NO, should be respected by her pursuer. Marcus assaulted her! He would not have got away with that sort of action outside the house.

(As an aside, I'm not sure what a heavy metal has to do with any sort of defence of his actions)

If she had been bothered, she would have formally complained to BB, or to the police when she left.

She said no, but acted in a total different way.
Yes, because his treatment of her was oppressive. The oppression was a bad part, the physical mauling he meted out, in spite of her saying NO, was an unforgivable part.

Patrick

06-08-2009, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Course he can.

He hasnt lost as much support as the forums show.
It isnt just forums, everywere that has BB Fans have turned on him.

People offline who dont use forums have told me they turned on him too

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Yes, because his treatment of her was oppressive. The oppression was a bad part, the physical mauling he meted out, in spite of her saying NO, was an unforgivable part.

Well in that case surely her friends would tell her what had been going on and urge her to get help.

You are talking cr*p again.

She lead him on, backed off but continued flirting, and was loving all the attention she got, from all the guys.

She was an attention-*****.

The_Long_Run

06-08-2009, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Yes, because his treatment of her was oppressive. The oppression was a bad part, the physical mauling he meted out, in spite of her saying NO, was an unforgivable part.

Well in that case surely her friends would tell her what had been going on and urge her to get help.

You are talking cr*p again.

She lead him on, backed off but continued flirting, and was loving all the attention she got, from all the guys.

She was an attention-*****.

There you go with your lead again, what she hit him with a lump of metal?

OK, he had lead in his pencil, that is no excuse for forcing himself upon her. She has escaped, and like many asaulted women, she just wants to forget it. She is somewhat naive in believing that Marcus is capable of friendship with an attractive member of the opposite sex. He appears asocial.

But enough, I am simply judging his actions unacceptable. His actions are in my view beyond forgivable. You asked me who I thought had acted unacceptably, I have responded and justified my response. Enough said so :xyxwave:

Vicky.

06-08-2009, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Yes, because his treatment of her was oppressive. The oppression was a bad part, the physical mauling he meted out, in spite of her saying NO, was an unforgivable part.

Well in that case surely her friends would tell her what had been going on and urge her to get help.

You are talking cr*p again.

She lead him on, backed off but continued flirting, and was loving all the attention she got, from all the guys.

She was an attention-*****.

There you go with your lead again, what she hit him with a lump of metal?

OK, he had lead in his pencil, that is no excuse for forcing himself upon her. She has escaped, and like many asaulted women, she just wants to forget it. She is somewhat naive in believing that Marcus is capable of friendship with an attractive member of the opposite sex. He appears asocial.

But enough, I am simply judging his actions unacceptable. His actions are in my view beyond forgivable. You asked me who I thought had acted unacceptably, I have responded and justified my response. Enough said so :xyxwave:

Total boll*cks as usual. And good attempt at a joke about lead...shame it isnt funny.

You havent justified your response...just spewed more hatred against a housemate you dont like.

If noirin felt he was doing anything wrong, she would have spoken to Big brother about it. She knew they had the power to stop him. Instead she lapped it up.

danu_schafer

06-08-2009, 12:10 PM

Thumbs up to VickyJ

Brad.

06-08-2009, 12:19 PM

bump.

nickc25

06-08-2009, 02:44 PM

I actually like Freddie a hell of a lot more after yesterday. I voted to save him when I said I would not vote again this series after the Kenneth fiasco.

He stood up to Lisa, was not aggressive in any way shape or form. Now that he is not being bullied people seem to have gone off him, it is strange that people have wanted someone to stand up to Lisa and now someone has they stick up for Lisa?! Very weird!

RealityTV

06-08-2009, 02:48 PM

He won't win now.
Worse than last years CBB with Terry saying the people who vote are blonde bimbos or some kind of insult to the public...

Halfwit showing off saying he's popular won't go down well and methinks he will get 50% boo's tomorrow. :dance:

He's well and truly blown it... Time to hand over your was-going-to-be-my-crown Halfwit and give it to... Sophie!! :thumbs2: :eureka: