View Full Version : Do you think David was trying to get Marcus kicked out?
My opnion is yes - think Marcus has him summed up and thought it was hilarious the way when David came out the DR and said sorry, 'thought you said punched instead of punked' Marcus said several times sorry I called you a fat ****** it was the way he was repeating it had me in stitches.
David keeps going on about his rule breaking but the way he stood there and kept saying come on punch me he was really goading Marcus - good on marcus for not retaliating
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 11:56 AM
No way ,he was standing up for himself and showing the idiot he wasnt scared of him
charmingmissc
06-08-2009, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by dbfs
My opnion is yes - think Marcus has him summed up and thought it was hilarious the way when David came out the DR and said sorry, 'thought you said punched instead of punked' Marcus said several times sorry I called you a fat ****** it was the way he was repeating it had me in stitches.
David keeps going on about his rule breaking but the way he stood there and kept saying come on punch me he was really goading Marcus - good on marcus for not retaliating
you may well be right.
Cybele
06-08-2009, 11:57 AM
You see it in every single reality show. There is always someone who dares another to punch them. They know if they get punched the other person is out.
Vicky.
06-08-2009, 11:58 AM
I dont know...david seemed very quick to accept that he had misheard...if he really felt so strongly that he had heard marcus say punched...he would have said this to BB. Instead of just accepting their words.
But on the other hand he may well have misheard...
I dont know which to believe.
But it did seem a lot like he was goading marcus to hit him.
Shasown
06-08-2009, 11:59 AM
oh DBFS, dbfs, to say that David was trying to get him thrown out, would be admitting that David is capable of rational thought.
Vicky.
06-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by BBmassive
No way ,he was standing up for himself and showing the idiot he wasnt scared of him
Why should he be scared of him though? marcus has never threatened david...
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
No way ,he was standing up for himself and showing the idiot he wasnt scared of him
Why should he be scared of him though? marcus has never threatened david... Marcus bigs up his strength,power all the time * i can pull it wilth my bolok* etc ,he thinks everyone scared of him (IMO)David showed he he wasnt ,as did Rod earlier
I just think David was pushing his buttons and lets not forget he hears all this crap from Lisa about Marcus I just think that David would have risked taking a punch from Marcus knowing that if he did they would chuck him out - he obviously went to the DR and complained which they didnt show on HL because BB said after viewing the tapes etc Marcus said punked not punched
johnx
06-08-2009, 12:04 PM
On the outside the pair of them wouldnt say boo to Marcus-like Shree they're very brave in the controlled conditions of the BB house.
I don't think David was trying to get Marcus kicked out, I think he really did mishear.
The interesting thing is that Marcus clearly used the past tense, and "punched" would have made no sense at all in the context. But in the heat of the moment, people can lose their heads so it is quite possible David really did think he had been threatened.
WOMBAI
06-08-2009, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by dbfs
My opnion is yes - think Marcus has him summed up and thought it was hilarious the way when David came out the DR and said sorry, 'thought you said punched instead of punked' Marcus said several times sorry I called you a fat ****** it was the way he was repeating it had me in stitches.
David keeps going on about his rule breaking but the way he stood there and kept saying come on punch me he was really goading Marcus - good on marcus for not retaliating
Utter rubbish - Lots of people thought Marcus said 'punch' - extremely difficult to tell - perfectly understandable that David thought he had said that - he was just showing Marcus that he wouldn't be intimidated by him!! Good on him!! And he had the good grace to apologise as soon as he came out of the DR!
Personally, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Marcus said 'punk' with the intention of it being interpreted as 'punch' just to cause a drama - and maybe even hoping David would react in such a way as to get himself into trouble!
He is a schemng, manipulative creature - wouldn't trust him further than I could sling him!!
As for his 'fat' comments - pot and kettle - usual deluded garbage!!
I felt David was trying to goad Marcus. David stood up, Marcus didn't. He certainly got over it very quickly when he came out of the Diary room.
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by BB22
I don't think David was trying to get Marcus kicked out, I think he really did mishear.
The interesting thing is that Marcus clearly used the past tense, and "punched" would have made no sense at all in the context. But in the heat of the moment, people can lose their heads so it is quite possible David really did think he had been threatened. Bea and Sophie both said they heard the same thing,it wasnt only David
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by dbfs
My opnion is yes - think Marcus has him summed up and thought it was hilarious the way when David came out the DR and said sorry, 'thought you said punched instead of punked' Marcus said several times sorry I called you a fat ****** it was the way he was repeating it had me in stitches.
David keeps going on about his rule breaking but the way he stood there and kept saying come on punch me he was really goading Marcus - good on marcus for not retaliating
Lots of people thought Marcus said 'punch' - extremely difficult to tell - perfectly understandable that David thought he had said that
It is kind of understandable that David might make that mistake. What is rather more surprising is that so many people on this forum should make the mistake.
I think I am the only person who has pointed out that Marcus was clearly using the past tense when he was speaking and that "punched" would make absolutely no sense in the discussion. I suppose people got as caught up in the heat of it as the Housemates themselves.
Twiggy
06-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by VickyJ
I dont know...david seemed very quick to accept that he had misheard...if he really felt so strongly that he had heard marcus say punched...he would have said this to BB. Instead of just accepting their words.
But on the other hand he may well have misheard...
I dont know which to believe.
But it did seem a lot like he was goading marcus to hit him. Talk in diary room was edited!
Cybele
06-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by BB22
I don't think David was trying to get Marcus kicked out, I think he really did mishear.
The interesting thing is that Marcus clearly used the past tense, and "punched" would have made no sense at all in the context. But in the heat of the moment, people can lose their heads so it is quite possible David really did think he had been threatened. Bea and Sophie both said they heard the same thing,it wasnt only David
That's because the two words sound so similar. It isn't really much of a conspiracy, is it?
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by BB22
I don't think David was trying to get Marcus kicked out, I think he really did mishear.
The interesting thing is that Marcus clearly used the past tense, and "punched" would have made no sense at all in the context. But in the heat of the moment, people can lose their heads so it is quite possible David really did think he had been threatened. Bea and Sophie both said they heard the same thing,it wasnt only David
That is true, but it is not something I am overly concerned about. I am perfectly happy to accept that Housemates may have misheard in the heat of such a chaotic discussion.
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by dbfs
My opnion is yes - think Marcus has him summed up and thought it was hilarious the way when David came out the DR and said sorry, 'thought you said punched instead of punked' Marcus said several times sorry I called you a fat ****** it was the way he was repeating it had me in stitches.
David keeps going on about his rule breaking but the way he stood there and kept saying come on punch me he was really goading Marcus - good on marcus for not retaliating
Lots of people thought Marcus said 'punch' - extremely difficult to tell - perfectly understandable that David thought he had said that
It is kind of understandable that David might make that mistake. What is rather more surprising is that so many people on this forum should make the mistake.
I think I am the only person who has pointed out that Marcus was clearly using the past tense when he was speaking and that "punched" would make absolutely no sense in the discussion. I suppose people got as caught up in the heat of it as the Housemates themselves.
Just to clarify the point I am trying to make, if you say to someone you have never punched, "I punched you," it is rather incongruous.
BitterFruit
06-08-2009, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by BB22
I don't think David was trying to get Marcus kicked out, I think he really did mishear.
The interesting thing is that Marcus clearly used the past tense, and "punched" would have made no sense at all in the context. But in the heat of the moment, people can lose their heads so it is quite possible David really did think he had been threatened.
think your right...
David just isn't that good with words and got flummoxed in the arguements and resorted to a stupid spat with Marcus.....
he was put on the defensive a lot ...basically having to defend to halfwit a supposed gameplan (??)
28thapril
06-08-2009, 12:44 PM
David know's that Marcus has a warning against him, and Lisa and David are desperate to get shot of Marcus so i think it was an opotunistic tactic to get him the boot, but it didn't work and David probably felt a bit of a nerd for showing his hand and getting it wrong:laugh:
Zizz6
06-08-2009, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
No way ,he was standing up for himself and showing the idiot he wasnt scared of him
But David was and is scared of Marcus. No reason to be but he is.
If Lisa is around David is first one to bully somebody else and bitching and whining.
Shasown
06-08-2009, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by johnx
On the outside the pair of them wouldnt say boo to Marcus-like Shree they're very brave in the controlled conditions of the BB house.
The same could be said for Marcus!!
The man plays with dollies FFS oops sorry rips the heads off GI joe action figures and glues them onto different bodies, then puts them in different dresses. Like some sort of juvenile Dr Frankenstein.
ElProximo
06-08-2009, 12:55 PM
I thought it was hilarious to watch the coward Marcus getting courage only after a majority went and surrounded David and Lisa,
(note - Marcus waited till most were there first before he showed up)
and,
AFTER Lisa left and David was all alone and David told Marcus off.
Duly noted - even when David thought he said 'punch' (keep in mind HE heard that) he was happy to stand up and invite Marcus in.
What did the coward Marcy do?
Nothing.
His fake laughter and looking around to make sure he had everyone on his side.
Marcy got punked and it is just hilarious how 10 minutes later he 'retold' the story 'as if' David 'had no response'.
Camp Frankenstein - 1
Marcy - 0
IF ONLY Marcy had the courage to take a punch because David would surely club the chubby little Marcus into the ground lol
Shasown
06-08-2009, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Zizz6
If Lisa is around David is first one to bully somebody else and bitching and whining.
Any sort of evidence to back that one up?
Vicky.
06-08-2009, 12:56 PM
elproximo...what do you suggest marcus should have done when david 'invited him in'...knocked him out and been ejected?
Brad.
06-08-2009, 12:56 PM
Nah.
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by johnx
On the outside the pair of them wouldnt say boo to Marcus-like Shree they're very brave in the controlled conditions of the BB house.
The same could be said for Marcus!!
The man plays with dollies FFS oops sorry rips the heads off GI joe action figures and glues them onto different bodies, then puts them in different dresses. Like some sort of juvenile Dr Frankenstein. Like the nasty boy next door in Toy Story more like !! :joker:
Zizz6
06-08-2009, 12:59 PM
IF ONLY Marcy had the courage to take a punch because David would surely club the chubby little Marcus into the ground lol
Sorry to inform you but Marcus is not that stupid. That really was David's intension to get Marcus fight or offense?
fuzzylovin
06-08-2009, 01:00 PM
Lisa probs told him to do it.
Shasown
06-08-2009, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by fuzzylovin
Lisa probs told him to do it.
Any sightings of anything remotely like that happening.
You know like the footage of Bea stirring it for others we see all the time. there isnt really really anything showing Lisa saying, "david you know if you got into an arguement and taunted him to hit you, he would, you know and he would be out"
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by fuzzylovin
Lisa probs told him to do it. Oh please :rolleyes:
luminoussun
06-08-2009, 01:12 PM
if marcus had done the same thing he would of had a warning for trying to cause a fight
Shasown
06-08-2009, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by luminoussun
if marcus had done the same thing he would of had a warning for trying to cause a fight
thats twice you said that, doesnt make it any more valid
ElProximo
06-08-2009, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by VickyJ
elproximo...what do you suggest marcus should have done when david 'invited him in'...knocked him out and been ejected?
That is impossible because Marcy wouldn't have the guts to try, wouldn't succeed and would end up beaten up by David,
but,
I didn't suggest he do anything. I criticized him for putting on an insincere snickering laugh.
What are YOU suggesting - the choices are either punch David or else by some sort of 'default' choice one should snicker and put on a fake laugh?
How about Marcus just **** and be embarrassed?
That would have been the appropriate response.
GypsyGoth
06-08-2009, 01:28 PM
Personal story here to illustrate my point.
A few years ago in school this girl wanted to fight me. I was petrified. But then I noticed this teacher in the yard. The fear left me and I knew that I could stand up to her. She also spotted the teacher and she didn't want to get into trouble.
Well we didn't fight and she mostly left me alone after that.
Anyway my point is that where normally I was very scarred of someone, a situation arose that gave me courage. I wasn't being malicious, at least I don't think I was, I was just making a stand in an environment where I would not get hurt.
David done that to Marcus, he stood up to him in artificial setting.
It really sounded like Marcus said he would "punch him out," David knew security would be there in seconds to protect him. He was more courageous than his usual self but I don't believe he was malicious, he actually seems like a really nice guy.
saraholeila
06-08-2009, 01:30 PM
I think Marcus was really vicious in his verbal attack on David, he was standing up roaring horrific insults and laughing, but his face fell as soon as David stood up to him. Go David!
saraholeila
06-08-2009, 01:31 PM
I think Marcus was really vicious in his verbal attack on David, he was standing up roaring horrific insults and laughing, but his face fell as soon as David stood up to him. Go David!
zotec
06-08-2009, 01:36 PM
Do you think David is using his lack of vocabulary and understanding to his advantage as Brian Bello did?
ElProximo
06-08-2009, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by saraholeila
I think Marcus was really vicious in his verbal attack on David, he was standing up roaring horrific insults and laughing, but his face fell as soon as David stood up to him. Go David!
Not only that but David definitely won the 'verbal battle' and by that I mean that David made comments that directly 'punked' Marcus.
David called Marcus out and Marcus could not respond.
Clarifying - Marcus really is insecure about being a pathetic little man. Marcus really is embarrassed about sulking for three days under a duvet in the corner.
Marcus really is scared if David is not physically intimidated by Marcus fake persona.
In fact Marcus retorts were just generic 'blurt out' insults of no actually hurting or personal sort.
and.. as I have noted over and over again - Marcus will go into the DR and 'project'.
He retells the story as if HE 'punked' David and 'called him out' and David was the one who had 'no answer',
but,
THAT WAS MARCUS!
Quite seriously I am thinking of giving David one 'vote to save' just for that.
I'm no fan of Camp Frankenstein but he did own cowardly Marcus on that one!
Yeah definately.. the moron
Vicky.
06-08-2009, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by VickyJ
elproximo...what do you suggest marcus should have done when david 'invited him in'...knocked him out and been ejected?
That is impossible because Marcy wouldn't have the guts to try, wouldn't succeed and would end up beaten up by David,
but,
I didn't suggest he do anything. I criticized him for putting on an insincere snickering laugh.
What are YOU suggesting - the choices are either punch David or else by some sort of 'default' choice one should snicker and put on a fake laugh?
How about Marcus just **** and be embarrassed?
That would have been the appropriate response.
No he should have laughed in his face, which is what he did do, as he didnt threaten him with violence of any kind and this was proven.
Blueisthecolour
06-08-2009, 01:51 PM
I think that David definitely exaggerated the situation to cause trouble for Marcus. The irony wasn't lost on me after David had just accused Bea of making a mountain out of a molehill.
Also, it may have already been commented on but I didn't see it, but Sophie definitely caused Marcus' punishment this week and therefore contributed to the multiple nominees.
Marcus made the comment about wanting to go this week and Sophie spent the next hour running round shrieking at the top of her voice that Marcus was trying to influence the nominations.
Had Sophie not done that, in my opinion the comment might have been allowed to pass.
Yes, poor, sweet, innocent, harmless Sophie.
BigBrotherfan4ever
06-08-2009, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by dbfs
My opnion is yes - think Marcus has him summed up and thought it was hilarious the way when David came out the DR and said sorry, 'thought you said punched instead of punked' Marcus said several times sorry I called you a fat ****** it was the way he was repeating it had me in stitches.
David keeps going on about his rule breaking but the way he stood there and kept saying come on punch me he was really goading Marcus - good on marcus for not retaliating
Utter rubbish - Lots of people thought Marcus said 'punch' - extremely difficult to tell - perfectly understandable that David thought he had said that - he was just showing Marcus that he wouldn't be intimidated by him!! Good on him!! And he had the good grace to apologise as soon as he came out of the DR!
Personally, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Marcus said 'punk' with the intention of it being interpreted as 'punch' just to cause a drama - and maybe even hoping David would react in such a way as to get himself into trouble!
He is a schemng, manipulative creature - wouldn't trust him further than I could sling him!!
As for his 'fat' comments - pot and kettle - usual deluded garbage!! Well said COMMONSENSE:thumbs:
gez_09
06-08-2009, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
No way ,he was standing up for himself and showing the idiot he wasnt scared of him
Why should he be scared of him though? marcus has never threatened david... Marcus bigs up his strength,power all the time * i can pull it wilth my bolok* etc ,he thinks everyone scared of him (IMO)David showed he he wasnt ,as did Rod earlier
YES! Thank god someone can see it :)
OP Marcus did not need to get involved there because it wasn't his argument, but because he thinks he can do anything he likes in the house (count how many times he's broken the rules), he didn't expect retaliation - especially from David. All David did was stick up for himself, and he did well IMO. Check how Marcus's face changes when David brings up Marcus's "whinging in the corner for days" dig.
I think that what happened last night was a perfect example of bullying: They all followed David and Lisa out of the kitchen, there was more than one person attacking another, and it was completely out of the blue. I blame Bea, she started it, and she keeps going on at David for not liking her because of something she "didn't say" (which if you look back she actually did on several occasions behind his back).
If people have any sense the right person/people will leave tomorrow
gez_09
06-08-2009, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Blueisthecolour
...Marcus made the comment about wanting to go this week and Sophie spent the next hour running round shrieking at the top of her voice that Marcus was trying to influence the nominations.
Had Sophie not done that, in my opinion the comment might have been allowed to pass.
Had Marcus (and Siavash) not deliberately broken the rules then just him and Bea would've been up for eviction. Why is this Sophie's fault? All she did was point out his cheating plan. Good on her for not falling for it
Shasown
06-08-2009, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by saraholeila
I think Marcus was really vicious in his verbal attack on David, he was standing up roaring horrific insults and laughing, but his face fell as soon as David stood up to him. Go David!
yes well Just remeber poor Sophie, she will end up cleaning the stains of Marcus' yellowing y fronts
Blueisthecolour
06-08-2009, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by gez_09
Originally posted by Blueisthecolour
...Marcus made the comment about wanting to go this week and Sophie spent the next hour running round shrieking at the top of her voice that Marcus was trying to influence the nominations.
Had Sophie not done that, in my opinion the comment might have been allowed to pass.
Had Marcus (and Siavash) not deliberately broken the rules then just him and Bea would've been up for eviction. Why is this Sophie's fault? All she did was point out his cheating plan. Good on her for not falling for it
Well exactly?
Had Siavash been the only person in trouble this week the punishment might well have been different to putting the whole house up for eviction.
For example they may have put Siavash up for eviction and then made him nominate in public in future.
Marcus made a comment which may or may not have been an attempt to influence (It probably was to be fair).
My point, or at least my opinion is that Sophie was simply stirring the **** by running around drawing attention to Marcus' comment. It wasn't a matter of her not falling for it, it was a matter of her making a song and dance out of it.
Sophie did after all make comments herself about wanting to go, as has Lisa, as have many people at various times.
ange7
06-08-2009, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by gez_09
Originally posted by Blueisthecolour
...Marcus made the comment about wanting to go this week and Sophie spent the next hour running round shrieking at the top of her voice that Marcus was trying to influence the nominations.
Had Sophie not done that, in my opinion the comment might have been allowed to pass.
Had Marcus (and Siavash) not deliberately broken the rules then just him and Bea would've been up for eviction. Why is this Sophie's fault? All she did was point out his cheating plan. Good on her for not falling for it
"cheating plan" ?? lol
snaker
06-08-2009, 02:27 PM
i think he was trying to get him kicked out .. he became quite provocative and seized on it ... he stood up and asked him to punch him
ElProximo
06-08-2009, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by VickyJ
elproximo...what do you suggest marcus should have done when david 'invited him in'...knocked him out and been ejected?
That is impossible because Marcy wouldn't have the guts to try, wouldn't succeed and would end up beaten up by David,
but,
I didn't suggest he do anything. I criticized him for putting on an insincere snickering laugh.
What are YOU suggesting - the choices are either punch David or else by some sort of 'default' choice one should snicker and put on a fake laugh?
How about Marcus just **** and be embarrassed?
That would have been the appropriate response.
No he should have laughed in his face, which is what he did do, as he didnt threaten him with violence of any kind and this was proven.
He did laugh in his face. Because he had nothing to say and had to cover up his shame after being called out by David,
and,
WHY are you telling anyone there was no threat of violence?
Did someone suggest that?
Why do you feel you are 'correcting' anyone about that?
Listen carefully:
There was no threat of violence but David THOUGHT Marcus was threatening to punch him.
David then stood up to Marcus (believing Marcus was threatening him).
Follow this so far?
So what happens is that Marcus finds out that IF he had threated to punch David (he did not) but IF he had - David would happily get up and confront Marcus with a face-to-face physical challenge.
So that most definitely intimidates Marcus.
HarryRag
06-08-2009, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
He did laugh in his face. Because he had nothing to say and had to cover up his shame after being called out by David,
and,
WHY are you telling anyone there was no threat of violence?
Did someone suggest that?
Why do you feel you are 'correcting' anyone about that?
Listen carefully:
There was no threat of violence but David THOUGHT Marcus was threatening to punch him.
David then stood up to Marcus (believing Marcus was threatening him).
Follow this so far?
So what happens is that Marcus finds out that IF he had threated to punch David (he did not) but IF he had - David would happily get up and confront Marcus with a face-to-face physical challenge.
So that most definitely intimidates Marcus.
elproximo continues his typical no sense at all arguments. but lisa and david will be out soon anyway :bouncy:
gillgroom
06-08-2009, 02:44 PM
glad to see david standing up for him self
GO DAVID :cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:
HarryRag
06-08-2009, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by gillgroom
glad to see david standing up for him self
GO DAVID :cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:
marcus would have smashed that queers face, but they are on BB. Marcus did win, David was upset, and he cried like a little baby whole night :hello:
Zizz6
06-08-2009, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by snaker
i think he was trying to get him kicked out .. he became quite provocative and seized on it ... he stood up and asked him to punch him
Watched it second time and that's what it looked like. What a snake this David is.
Out out out!
WOMBAI
06-08-2009, 04:12 PM
It is so easy to talk tough and act tough inside a controlled environment like the bb house! Means nothing!!!!!!!!
It's what happens in the real world that counts!!
Maybe that is why Marcus lives in his own 'irripressible darkhorse' fantasy world!! Because the real one is too scary!!
Of the two - David is more of a man in my book!!!!!
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