View Full Version : Halfwit on the dole
Nikkos
06-08-2009, 09:15 PM
Makes me sick!
rayheartbliss
06-08-2009, 09:15 PM
get him out!
Nikkos
06-08-2009, 09:16 PM
hes in your banner!
Tenantry
06-08-2009, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Nikkos
Makes me sick!
He can't be if his in the BB house.
lavabird
06-08-2009, 09:30 PM
pocket money ,that wasnt a very smart comment
xmynxiex
06-08-2009, 09:31 PM
He said it was for a couple of weeks. Any how his family contribute mass tax's to this country to help people like the likes of lisa. :pat:
Shasown
06-08-2009, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by xmynxiex
He said it was for a couple of weeks. Any how his family contribute mass tax's to this country to help people like the likes of lisa. :pat:
Yeah that's right, like you know what they pay in taxes, they may actually be fairly poor and have to open the hall for weddings and conferences in order to maintain their standard of living.
Kazanne
06-08-2009, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by Nikkos
Makes me sick!
Now tell the truth it wasn't quite said like that was it,he was on the dole for two weeks!!!!! unlike Lisa who apparently looks on it as a way of life!!:dance:
CaPPa
06-08-2009, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by xmynxiex
He said it was for a couple of weeks. Any how his family contribute mass tax's to this country to help people like the likes of lisa. :pat:
Yeah that's right, like you know what they pay in taxes, they may actually be fairly poor and have to open the hall for weddings and conferences in order to maintain their standard of living.
Keeping such a large estate running is quite expensive, so that could be why they have to hire out the hall.
xmynxiex
06-08-2009, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by xmynxiex
He said it was for a couple of weeks. Any how his family contribute mass tax's to this country to help people like the likes of lisa. :pat:
Yeah that's right, like you know what they pay in taxes, they may actually be fairly poor and have to open the hall for weddings and congerences in order to maintain their standard of living.
I dont know how much they pay, but im guess with a huge mannor house estate like his family have must pay huge amounts of tax's so why shouldnt he claim dole for a couple of weeks?. This blows out the theory that his mum and dad just throw cash at him! :hugesmile:
Shasown
06-08-2009, 09:46 PM
Seriously, there is nothing wrong with being on the dole, if he has savings over a set amount he wont get anything, except National Insurance Stamp for pension contribution.
And hopefully he and his family declare their income and pay the relevant taxes and other required deductions,he is entitled to it
loomy
06-08-2009, 09:57 PM
I don't mind him being on the dole but the way he talked about it was very tasteless
huggy1uk
06-08-2009, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Nikkos
Makes me sick!
Listen numb-nuts!Freddie is not on the dole.. you lying T....R
Shasown
06-08-2009, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by loomy
I don't mind him being on the dole but the way he talked about it was very tasteless
Yes well thats one thing you cant really blame the landed gentry on, having good taste.
BillyBong
06-08-2009, 10:09 PM
You people are really starting to annoy me. Stop ****ing blowing things out of proportion, for **** sake
Im mad at people slagging of Lisa for it, but when its Freddie its "Ohhh noo his family might be pooor!!! its only 2 weeks" so? its still 2 weeks of our countrys money
HayleyLeigh
06-08-2009, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by kazanne
Originally posted by Nikkos
Makes me sick!
Now tell the truth it wasn't quite said like that was it,he was on the dole for two weeks!!!!! unlike Lisa who apparently looks on it as a way of life!!:dance:
lisa has worked all of her life apart from the last few months - get ur facts right mate.
is it coz she lives on a council estate?:conf:
rayheartbliss
06-08-2009, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by SaphLiike
Im mad at people slagging of Lisa for it, but when its Freddie its "Ohhh noo his family might be pooor!!! its only 2 weeks" so? its still 2 weeks of our countrys money i lurv your banner
;)
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
Originally posted by SaphLiike
Im mad at people slagging of Lisa for it, but when its Freddie its "Ohhh noo his family might be pooor!!! its only 2 weeks" so? its still 2 weeks of our countrys money i lurv your banner
;)
yaay! ugly betty :lovedup:
Vicky.
06-08-2009, 10:28 PM
Hold on...people are annoyed that freddie claimed like 2 weeks of jobseekers allowance whilst he was loking for a job...its what it is there for..and i believe his comment about pocket money most likely came out wrong, i mean, he doesnt have to pay board or anything so i suppose what he earns/gets, is his to waste in a way.
But Lisa can claim for 20 years and noone can say a word against her as she may have a disability that stops her from working(which i think is a made up excuse from lisa fans TBH) or because she has had jobs previous but lost them...
Isnt freddie in the same situation? Yea his parents have a big house. Big deal, they obviously dont spoon feed him or why would he bother with the dole? for the paltry 100 quid a fortnight or whatever it is?
Where is the logic??
brian3
06-08-2009, 10:33 PM
for a few weeks when he was 18. everyones a bit of an idot when we are 18.
mangasatsuma
06-08-2009, 10:35 PM
Pocket money would make a fair comparison. Anyone tried to pay a 3 month winter gas bill while signing on?
golden
06-08-2009, 10:35 PM
Hasn't Lisa worked most her life. She worked in a factory until she lost the job & that was recent enough....
Or is this a lie?
I'm fairly sure she hasn't been on the dole for 20 years!
Vicky.
06-08-2009, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by golden
Hasn't Lisa worked most her life. She worked in a factory until she lost the job & that was recent enough....
Or is this a lie?
I'm fairly sure she hasn't been on the dole for 20 years!
"or because she has had jobs previous but lost them..."
I said, I'm only going on what people write on here. i dont give a stuff about her personal life really.
HarryRag
06-08-2009, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by golden
Hasn't Lisa worked most her life. She worked in a factory until she lost the job & that was recent enough....
Or is this a lie?
I'm fairly sure she hasn't been on the dole for 20 years!
lisa don't know anything about a real hard work. she has been whining all her life, "gays are oppressed...." good reason to stay away from work, for her that is
Shasown
06-08-2009, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by VickyJ
Hold on...people are annoyed that freddie claimed like 2 weeks of jobseekers allowance whilst he was loking for a job...its what it is there for..and i believe his comment about pocket money most likely came out wrong, i mean, he doesnt have to pay board or anything so i suppose what he earns/gets, is his to waste in a way.
But Lisa can claim for 20 years and noone can say a word against her as she may have a disability that stops her from working(which i think is a made up excuse from lisa fans TBH) or because she has had jobs previous but lost them...
Isnt freddie in the same situation? Yea his parents have a big house. Big deal, they obviously dont spoon feed him or why would he bother with the dole? for the paltry 100 quid a fortnight or whatever it is?
Where is the logic??
From a mate who works in a Jobcentre, DLA(disability allowance) is often used by a small number of people so that they dont have to constantly sign on, it also saves the periodic reviews put on people who are on JSA/IS
Saying that judging by her visible ability to move around and sit at the bus stop for prolonged period she reckons(jokingly) Lisa wont be on DLA when she gets out, as new claimants have a stricter system to get through, they are slowly working through the older claimants, as they come up for review.
jgfrise
06-08-2009, 10:43 PM
By pocket money, he meant it was a very small amount. Why the hell shouldn't he have claimed dole - at least his family have contributed huge amounts in tax. I doubt that Lisa has ever contributed anything!!!:tongue:
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 10:45 PM
Hes on the dole ,but earns a crust hiring out young lads for pervs to manhandle
Sabrewulf238
06-08-2009, 10:45 PM
I think he's always said he doesn't like living off his parents though
HarryRag
06-08-2009, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by jgfrise
By pocket money, he meant it was a very small amount. Why the hell shouldn't he have claimed dole - at least his family have contributed huge amounts in tax. I doubt that Lisa has ever contributed anything!!!:tongue:
at last i agree with you :xyxwave:
Shasown
06-08-2009, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Sabrewulf238
I think he's always said he doesn't like living off his parents though
No he would sooner live of the immoral earnings for running a team(is that the right word for it harry?) of rent boys
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by Sabrewulf238
I think he's always said he doesn't like living off his parents though
No he would sooner live of the immoral earnings for running a team(is that the right word for it harry?) of rent boys Dead right !! said the same myself ^^
golden
06-08-2009, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by Sabrewulf238
I think he's always said he doesn't like living off his parents though
No he would sooner live of the immoral earnings for running a team(is that the right word for it harry?) of rent boys Dead right !! said the same myself ^^
:hello::hello:
C4_spoil_BB
06-08-2009, 11:12 PM
I you loved D vote for F.
LipticBoven
06-08-2009, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by SaphLiike
Im mad at people slagging of Lisa for it, but when its Freddie its "Ohhh noo his family might be pooor!!! its only 2 weeks" so? its still 2 weeks of our countrys money
The difference is freddie and his family would have paid a lot in taxes, a lot more then there fair share. But lisa, has never even had a real job.
I don't mind people who have to go on the dole, becuase they lost there job and there looking for work or becuase they are going throu hard times, but i can't stand ppl like lisa who claim benefits/ dole, and live in a council house and never even bother trying to get a job.
if every1 behaved like lisa and decided they don't want to work and would rather other ppl took care of them then were would we be.
oopaloompa
06-08-2009, 11:24 PM
She said the last proper job was when she was 21. So i guess shes only done the odd job since then
GoldHeart
06-08-2009, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Nikkos
Makes me sick! he said he wasnt didnt he ? :conf: im confused lol
Blink_Me
06-08-2009, 11:26 PM
Let's give him the gas chamber.
:rolleyes:
oopaloompa
06-08-2009, 11:32 PM
It was only for two weeks , its not exactly a fortune plus he said he was jobhunting. Unlike Lisa who admitted she just went from one friends house to another and used her computor
AhmedFan2004
06-08-2009, 11:35 PM
Yes, the billionaire comes out with the fact that he screwed hard-earned taxpayers by stealing their money when he didn't need it.
Whilst smiling and laughing about it, with David.
Funny how Lisa haters criticize her for being on the dole; when she's poor and has worked hard for years and years before being unemployed.
I hope his precious Bea gets evicted, Lisa and David stay, and that smug, vile, grin vanishes! His face if they announce Bea is evicted ... AWESOME! :thumbs2:
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Yes, the billionaire comes out with the fact that he screwed hard-earned taxpayers by stealing their money when he didn't need it.
Whilst smiling and laughing about it, with David.
Funny how Lisa haters criticize her for being on the dole; when she's poor and has worked hard for years and years before being unemployed.
I hope his precious Bea gets evicted, Lisa and David stay, and that smug, vile, grin vanishes! His face if they announce Bea is evicted ... AWESOME! :thumbs2: :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
zukhov
06-08-2009, 11:38 PM
LoL at you peopole thinking Halfwits parents pay proper tax. Toffs like that know every loophole there is and then some. Its probably us paying them.
For info lisa has only been on the dole for four months and has worked the rest of her life, both in a factory and a dogs home.
Halfwit on the other hand has had an incredibly privliged life, rich titled parents, a verry expensive school which gave him a free pass to Oxbridge to study some airy fairy subject, then gets to play at business man with his parents money.
Prejudice on this forum is really bad, Lisa looks rough and is common, is on the dole through no fault of her own, but is consistantly labeled a scrounger through no fault of her own.
oopaloompa
06-08-2009, 11:38 PM
Since when has Freddie been a billionaire:shrug:
Vicky.
06-08-2009, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by oopaloompa
Since when has Freddie been a billionaire:shrug:
His parents have money (or if not, they have a big house)
People just assume he has access to their money.
Ignorance on their part really.
keithafc
06-08-2009, 11:42 PM
It's a system which is abused all over the country. People doing the double, no doubt have been doing the double (job and dole) for YEARS and still getting away with it. People claiming benifits for injury when they are faking it.
The country is in a mess and is broken as far as im concerned. No doubt the people who will take a pop at freddie are most likely on the dole themselves.
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by zukhov
LoL at you peopole thinking Halfwits parents pay proper tax. Toffs like that know every loophole there is and then some. Its probably us paying them.
For info lisa has only been on the dole for four months and has worked the rest of her life, both in a factory and a dogs home.
Halfwit on the other hand has had an incredibly privliged life, rich titled parents, a verry expensive school which gave him a free pass to Oxbridge to study some airy fairy subject, then gets to play at business man with his parents money.
Prejudice on this forum is really bad, Lisa looks rough and is common, is on the dole through no fault of her own, but is consistantly labeled a scrounger through no fault of her own. And Lisa doesnt hire out other young lad arses !!
Prole
06-08-2009, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by zukhov
LoL at you peopole thinking Halfwits parents pay proper tax. Toffs like that know every loophole there is and then some. Its probably us paying them.
For info lisa has only been on the dole for four months and has worked the rest of her life, both in a factory and a dogs home.
Halfwit on the other hand has had an incredibly privliged life, rich titled parents, a verry expensive school which gave him a free pass to Oxbridge to study some airy fairy subject, then gets to play at business man with his parents money.
Prejudice on this forum is really bad, Lisa looks rough and is common, is on the dole through no fault of her own, but is consistantly labeled a scrounger through no fault of her own.
You say prejudice on this forum is bad, and your post proves your own point.
Firstly, going to a good school does not give you a "free pass" to Oxbridge. You need excellent grades. And the "airy fairy" subject he studied was Politics, Philosophy and Economics. Not Media Studies.
If you think Freddie's parents wouldn't pay tax because of loopholes, then you're dreaming.
Lisa has been on the dole for years by her own admission. She's a layabout and it is her own fault. Yet you're defending her while slating Freddie. The prejudice, I suggest, is all your own.
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 11:49 PM
VIa ,if you call 4 months years ,then your right
Prole
06-08-2009, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
VIa ,if you call 4 months years ,then your right
Didn't Lisa say that her last "proper job" was when she was 21?
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by ViaVerde
Originally posted by BBmassive
VIa ,if you call 4 months years ,then your right
Didn't Lisa say that her last "proper job" was when she was 21? No she didnt ,she said 4 months ago
Prole
06-08-2009, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by ViaVerde
Originally posted by BBmassive
VIa ,if you call 4 months years ,then your right
Didn't Lisa say that her last "proper job" was when she was 21? No she didnt ,she said 4 months ago
If that's true I stand corrected. But I stick by everything I said about Freddie. Like him or hate him, he's taken a lot of abuse on here simply because of his background.
AhmedFan2004
06-08-2009, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by ViaVerde
Firstly, going to a good school does not give you a "free pass" to Oxbridge. You need excellent grades. And the "airy fairy" subject he studied was Politics, Philosophy and Economics. Not Media Studies.
If you think Freddie's parents wouldn't pay tax because of loopholes, then you're dreaming.
Lisa has been on the dole for years by her own admission. She's a layabout and it is her own fault. Yet you're defending her while slating Freddie. The prejudice, I suggest, is all your own.
Lisa said she's worked hard in factories for years. When did she say she was on the dole for years and years? Lies, nonsense.
I agree that getting into Oxford for PPE is a very impressive achievement. That's really a side tangent to the thread, and of course it's VERY HARD to get in, no matter what school you go to, agreed.
Lisa has worked hard for most of her life, and you/we/I don't know her life and why she was unemployed upon entry.
What we do know, is that Freddie screwed tax-payers money whilst laughing to David about it, DESPITE being a millionaire with a good life.
BBmassive
06-08-2009, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by ViaVerde
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by ViaVerde
Originally posted by BBmassive
VIa ,if you call 4 months years ,then your right
Didn't Lisa say that her last "proper job" was when she was 21? No she didnt ,she said 4 months ago
If that's true I stand corrected. But I stick by everything I said about Freddie. Like him or hate him, he's taken a lot of abuse on here simply because of his background. I dont hate him because of his background ,its the hm8 i have watched over the last few weeks
AhmedFan2004
07-08-2009, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by ViaVerde
If that's true I stand corrected. But I stick by everything I said about Freddie. Like him or hate him, he's taken a lot of abuse on here simply because of his background.
To be fair, he's got off lightly. We both know that there's been some majorly derogative remarks aimed at various HMs, including racism and various other prejudices. Sree was hammered to death. Lisa has been abused badly, yet nobody knows jack about her.
BBmassive
07-08-2009, 12:00 AM
Lets not forget Hira is on the dole too
Prole
07-08-2009, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by ViaVerde
Firstly, going to a good school does not give you a "free pass" to Oxbridge. You need excellent grades. And the "airy fairy" subject he studied was Politics, Philosophy and Economics. Not Media Studies.
If you think Freddie's parents wouldn't pay tax because of loopholes, then you're dreaming.
Lisa has been on the dole for years by her own admission. She's a layabout and it is her own fault. Yet you're defending her while slating Freddie. The prejudice, I suggest, is all your own.
Lisa said she's worked hard in factories for years. When did she say she was on the dole for years and years? Lies, nonsense.
I agree that getting into Oxford for PPE is a very impressive achievement. That's really a side tangent to the thread, and of course it's VERY HARD to get in, no matter what school you go to, agreed.
Lisa has worked hard for most of her life, and you/we/I don't know her life and why she was unemployed upon entry.
What we do know, is that Freddie screwed tax-payers money whilst laughing to David about it, DESPITE being a millionaire with a good life.
You say we don't know Lisa's life, and it's true, we don't But we don't know Freddie's either. Because he parents have money though, suddenly everyone is an expert on what he should have claimed legally and morally. Freddie was as entitled to claim it as anyone. He didn't "screw" anybody. He is not a millionaire, his parents are wealthy. It seems to be a real thorn in the side of some people, but that's just how life is. Some are haves, some are have nots. The bottom line is, he as entitled to claim the dole, and he did.
AhmedFan2004
07-08-2009, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Lets not forget Hira is on the dole too
It's not something I have a problem with. I just found it interesting that a millionaire decides to laugh about the fact that he was unecessarily on the dole, as if it's something admirable. But hey, this completely fits with how he's been of late, so no surprises. :rolleyes:
Vicky.
07-08-2009, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
What we do know, is that Freddie screwed tax-payers money whilst laughing to David about it, DESPITE being a millionaire with a good life.
Freddie is not a millionaire. his parents have a big posh house, yeah...but he obviously does not get anything off them.
When he goes out drinking, he paints peoples faces for drink money. Why would he chose to do this?
He has also said on several occasions that though he doesnt pay rent, he has to have his own spending money.
Plus 2 weeks of signing on would equal about £100 ish...not much to be fussing about IMO.
He was actively seeking a job, and the jobcentre also check your bank account statements etc. to check you do nor have any savings over £6000 (not too sure of the actual amount, it is close to this though, if this is not correct)
So if he was a millionaire, he would never have been allowed to sign on.
I find it hilarious that people can make excuses for lisa being on the dole, yet have such a problem with freddie doing the same, just because his PARENTS have money.
BBmassive
07-08-2009, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by BBmassive
Lets not forget Hira is on the dole too
It's not something I have a problem with. I just found it interesting that a millionaire decides to laugh about the fact that he was unecessarily on the dole, as if it's something admirable. But hey, this completely fits with how he's been of late, so no surprises. :rolleyes: I am saying it is double standards ,its ok for Freddie the freak and Hira to be scrounger ,but wrong for lisa
Prole
07-08-2009, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by ViaVerde
If that's true I stand corrected. But I stick by everything I said about Freddie. Like him or hate him, he's taken a lot of abuse on here simply because of his background.
To be fair, he's got off lightly. We both know that there's been some majorly derogative remarks aimed at various HMs, including racism and various other prejudices. Sree was hammered to death. Lisa has been abused badly, yet nobody knows jack about her.
It housemates have been abused on the grounds of race, then the people who made the comments are idiots. We all know that.
No one know's jack about any of them really. But everyone seems to be a Freddie expert.
AhmedFan2004
07-08-2009, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by ViaVerde
You say we don't know Lisa's life, and it's true, we don't But we don't know Freddie's either. Because he parents have money though, suddenly everyone is an expert on what he should have claimed legally and morally. Freddie was as entitled to claim it as anyone. He didn't "screw" anybody. He is not a millionaire, his parents are wealthy. It seems to be a real thorn in the side of some people, but that's just how life is. Some are haves, some are have nots. The bottom line is, he as entitled to claim the dole, and he did.
But he's a millionaire, so it's wrong in most people's opinions, or at least more unjust than a poor person claiming the dole. Nobody has said he frauded anyone, we understand he technically could. But we think it's pretty poor, and it shows more of his greedy, sniding character.
All whilst laughing to David about it. Lisa never laughs about these matters, which probably is an indicator to her hard life and low income.
Prole
07-08-2009, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
But he's a millionaire,
It's his parents who are wealthy.
Vicky.
07-08-2009, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Prole
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
But he's a millionaire,
It's his parents who are wealthy.
This is what people cant seem to grasp...
AhmedFan2004
07-08-2009, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Prole
It's his parents who are wealthy.
This is being very naive now, and the fact he referred to it as 'pocket money' really blows away any remote doubt that he actually needed the money. The possibility that millionaire parents would be so stingy as to cause their son to be forced to go on the dole, is ludicrous. Sorry, very few will believe that.
Vicky.
07-08-2009, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Prole
It's his parents who are wealthy.
This is being very naive now, and the fact he referred to it as 'pocket money' really blows away any remote doubt that he actually needed the money. The possibility that millionaire parents would be so stingy as to cause their son to be forced to go on the dole, is ludicrous. Sorry, very few will believe that.
Only small-minded people wont I think you mean.
All families are different you know, maybe they are doing the right thing in making him fend for himself? Fair enough, he doesnt pay rent, but other people his age dont pay rent in their parents homest either. It just seems to be that it is such a big house that people have a problem with.
Do we even know his parents HAVE money? They may just have the estate...
keithafc
07-08-2009, 12:14 AM
You would need some sort of cash to keep that place running surely. Freddie FTW.
Shasown
07-08-2009, 12:26 AM
Lets get things in perspective, his parents may own the land and the house, they may on paper actually be millionaires(ie taking into account the value of the house and land) however you are making a very big assumption with the extremely wealthy bit.
They may have very limited funds in the way of real money. That may be the reason they have the house as a venue for weddings and conferences, if you were absolitely loaded with bags of cash, would you want all and sundry trooping through the house on a weekend?
Vicky.
07-08-2009, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Shasown
Lets get things in perspective, his parents may own the land and the house, they may on paper actually be millionaires(ie taking into account the value of the house and land) however you are making a very big assumption with the extremely wealthy bit.
They may have very limited funds in the way of real money. That may be the reason they have the house as a venue for weddings and conferences, if you were absolitely loaded with bags of cash, would you want all and sundry trooping through the house on a weekend?
Exactly. Plus also jumping to assumptions that freddies parents just give him what he wants. Which is clearly not the case .
Shasown
07-08-2009, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Shasown
Lets get things in perspective, his parents may own the land and the house, they may on paper actually be millionaires(ie taking into account the value of the house and land) however you are making a very big assumption with the extremely wealthy bit.
They may have very limited funds in the way of real money. That may be the reason they have the house as a venue for weddings and conferences, if you were absolitely loaded with bags of cash, would you want all and sundry trooping through the house on a weekend?
Exactly. Plus also jumping to assumptions that freddies parents just give him what he wants. Which is clearly not the case .
Freddies parents have my respect for making him earn his own money.
golden
07-08-2009, 12:31 AM
Ok so Freddie was on the dole...Why bring Lisa into it & make up lies that she has been claiming for years..
Vicky.
07-08-2009, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by golden
Ok so Freddie was on the dole...Why bring Lisa into it & make up lies that she has been claiming for years..
I think lisa was brought into it to rationalise peoples thinking. Apparently it is fine for lisa (and hira has been brought into it also) to claim dole, but not freddie.
They were both out of work. And both entitled. Simple.
AhmedFan2004
07-08-2009, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by VickyJ
They were both out of work. And both entitled. Simple.
Yes, that part is simple. That means none of the 3 broke any laws.
But is is justified, morally correct, virtuous and good natured? Is it good to call it 'pocket money' and laugh about it? Is it good that he claimed it despite having supportive millionaire parents? They obviously funded his uni education at Oxford, provided a home, food, clothes, money for his projects, etc.
The last paragraph isn't as 'simple'. So this 'he can claim' technicality means zilch.
oopaloompa
07-08-2009, 12:35 AM
whos to say Freddie does not help his parents out by waiting on tables etc, when they have a wedding on.
Jezzy
07-08-2009, 12:36 AM
Freddie is neither entitled by contribution or income grounds. Lisa has been on JSA for 4 months.
Wow big scrounge scandal.
golden
07-08-2009, 12:41 AM
Wasn't Freddie in the states for a couple of years...since college till recently? Did I hear that right?
Shasown
07-08-2009, 12:48 AM
I dont understand why people have dragged Hira into this, she is a resident of Ireland, therefore her means claims or whatever do not impact on UK taxpayers
ElProximo
07-08-2009, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Nikkos
Makes me sick!
If that is true then this disturbing little fukk is now that much worse a human being.
Does he use the money to pay some sicko fetish man to shove replica handguns in his mouth so he can moan 'mmmmm.... oh IM CUMMING"?
What a sick little ****.
Shasown
07-08-2009, 12:53 AM
http://www.oxfordstudent.com/tt2006wk4/News/oxford_boy_for_hire_on_internet
PMSL real or faked?
Vicky.
07-08-2009, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ
They were both out of work. And both entitled. Simple.
Yes, that part is simple. That means none of the 3 broke any laws.
But is is justified, morally correct, virtuous and good natured? Is it good to call it 'pocket money' and laugh about it? Is it good that he claimed it despite having supportive millionaire parents? They obviously funded his uni education at Oxford, provided a home, food, clothes, money for his projects, etc.
The last paragraph isn't as 'simple'. So this 'he can claim' technicality means zilch.
No, I think that was a bit insensitive, but it could be construed many ways, one being that it is such a paltry amount. Something like a hundred quid a fortnight isnt it? Insensitive, but not necessarily a badnatured comment.
And because his parents have provided for him in the past does not mean they do now. By the sounds of it, he gets no allowance or anything from them, they are getting him to make his own money, which is a good thing, otherwise he would be just another spoilt little rich kid.
It isnt a technicality that he can claim at all. He isnt rich. So he can claim.
For all you know lisas parents/uncle/great aunty martha may be rich, would this stop her entitlement to benefit when she is out of work and needs it, in your eyes?
AhmedFan2004
07-08-2009, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by VickyJ
No, I think that was a bit insensitive, but it could be construed many ways, one being that it is such a paltry amount. Something like a hundred quid a fortnight isnt it? Insensitive, but not necessarily a badnatured comment.
Well that's the point, it's disrespectful, and he was laughing, so it came across very pompous. I don't mean badnatured as in evil, but just with a very low regard to those less fortunate than him.
And because his parents have provided for him in the past does not mean they do now. By the sounds of it, he gets no allowance or anything from them, they are getting him to make his own money, which is a good thing, otherwise he would be just another spoilt little rich kid.
I disagree, I think that a millionaire living in his parents house means he gets taken VERY good care of, and lives a great life. He's often said how he's very fortunate, has servants, it's a great house, he has total freedom in there, etc. When lisa enquired him, he didn't seem to have a real job. 'Setting up businesses, launching my political career' - What's that, exactly?
It isnt a technicality that he can claim at all. He isnt rich. So he can claim.
It is a technicality. You are either entitled to claim, or not. The mass topics, debates and opinions on his lifestyle, parents, upbringing, his character, his laughing, 'pocket money' comment etc is the crux of why we're debating the topic. Not about law braking.
For all you know lisas parents/uncle/great aunty martha may be rich, would this stop her entitlement to benefit when she is out of work and needs it, in your eyes?
Again, you're clutching at straws, and not providing arguments that are believable to many, or that address the circumstances surrounding Freddie's claims (his wealth, etc) and his laughing and 'pocket money' comments. It's very easy to make up scenarios.
Shasown
07-08-2009, 01:05 AM
Its also possible that when he said it to Kenneth, it was simply said that way so as to act as a leveller in a social status way.
Funny old thing some rich people do that a lot, a bit like dropping names
Shasown
07-08-2009, 01:08 AM
Ahmedfan once again you conveniently overlook the fact, he isnt a millionaire, his parents may be wealthy but it may be wealth tied up in non liquid assets.
Vicky.
07-08-2009, 01:08 AM
"Again, you're clutching at straws, and not providing arguments that are believable to many, or that address the circumstances surrounding Freddie's claims (his wealth, etc) and his laughing and 'pocket money' comments. It's very easy to make up scenarios. "
I have never at any point in this thread been clutching at straws, so i cannot possibly be 'again, clutching at straws' I was merely saying, if it turned out that lisa had a rich family member would this change your perceptive of things.
HOWEVER.
In the other thread we have now sorted this sort of thing out. I believed you were just saying it all because you hated freddie, and loved lisa, hence the comparison there. This is not the case, you are just in the middle of a campaign to evict bea...good luck :elephant:
Basically the post is a hate post, directed at bea(through freddie), so i will not even attempt to talk sense...as you are clearly not up for reasoning as you are so set on your mission :wink:
golden
07-08-2009, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Shasown
http://www.oxfordstudent.com/tt2006wk4/News/oxford_boy_for_hire_on_internet
PMSL real or faked?
Real....Jorgen lmao:joker::joker:
oopaloompa
07-08-2009, 01:22 AM
It does say it was set up as joke,
Shasown
07-08-2009, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by oopaloompa
It does say it was set up as joke,
Yeah so someone who features on it claims. Mind if someone asked if they were a rent boy while a student, and they had graduated and were now working in a nice job, engaged to be married, what would they reply
"oh yes 3 times a week every week for the full four years I would let old men roger me rigid, couldnt sit down for a few days afterwards, mind it was only in the best hotels, nothing sordid"
golden
07-08-2009, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by oopaloompa
It does say it was set up as joke,
Yeah so someone who features on it claims. Mind if someone asked if they were a rent boy while a student, and they had graduated and were now working in a nice job, engaged to be married, what would they reply
"oh yes 3 times a week every week for the full four years I would let old men roger me rigid, couldnt sit down for a few days afterwards, mind it was only in the best hotels, nothing sordid"
:joker::joker::hello:
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