What has Bea actually done wrong?

[Nikkos]

I always seem to be a week behind you lot.

If you suddenly really like or really dislike a HM, it takes me about a week to see why.

But I'm failing to see where Bea has gone wrong?

I don't want to see 'she's this or that...' I've read it several times. I want examples please :D

I'm NOT defending her by the way, just need to be shown the errors of my ways.

[MaratSafinForever]

I've hated her since the first minute and it's became increasingly worse, the lot on this forum liked her the first week and now I'm sitting here laughing with all you that I argued with. I ****ING TOLD YOU SO.

[aoq2008]

Shes not done much, but she needs to go to give that rat Halfwit a slap on the face. Then him next week.

[Nikkos]

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
I've hated her since the first minute and it's became increasingly worse, the lot on this forum liked her the first week and now I'm sitting here laughing with all you that I argued with. I ****ing TOLD YOU SO.

yeah like I said, any specific reasons? Being the first to dislike someone isn't an achievement by the way, it's not as if everyone agreed with you.

[paulie57]

Well for a start she just lied to Freddie saying she hasn't been really, really really two faced. That is one of the nicer things she has said/done over the last two weeks. Awful woman!

[Nikkos]

Originally posted by paulie57
Well for a start she just lied to Freddie saying she hasn't been really, really really two faced. That is one of the nicer things she has said/done over the last two weeks. Awful woman!

example of her being two-faced?

[ohflip]

Bea
Hmmm
Lovely :flowers:

time to phone again:flowers:

[Sir_Diary_of_Roomus]

She bitches about people behind their back, and sh*t stirs all the time. When her victim finds out about it and tries to make sense of it, Bea pretty much plays an oscar winning victim and villanizes the other person. That and she's arrogant.

[ohflip]

arrogant:laugh2:from someone with Science in their handle..ow no stop:laugh2:

another 2 votes:flowers:

[quietman1963]

She accused/implied that David had stolen butter, but then denied it when David asked her about it. She acted all innocent and accused David of shouting at her(which he did Not) and being aggresive. She then tried to tell the whole household how nasty David was.

[ohflip]

Originally posted by quietman1963
She accused/implied that David had stolen butter, but then denied it when David asked her about it. She acted all innocent and accused David of shouting at her(which he did Not) and being aggresive. She then tried to tell the whole household how nasty David was.

she simply asked him about the butter after marcus had told her 'he had half inched it'

she accused David of being a Bully(he was cetainely not nice )which she later mused on and said she had used the wrong word and even said to David that was the wrong word

But hey,lets not let the facts get in the way :rolleyes:

[Frankly_Mr_Shankly]

Originally posted by Sir_Diary_of_Roomus
She bitches about people behind their back, and sh*t stirs all the time. When her victim finds out about it and tries to make sense of it, Bea pretty much plays an oscar winning victim and villanizes the other person. That and she's arrogant.

Absolute nonsense. She's the most forthcoming and direct housemate. Please provide examples. This anti Bea thing is completely delusional.

[Frankly_Mr_Shankly]

Originally posted by Nikkos
I always seem to be a week behind you lot.

If you suddenly really like or really dislike a HM, it takes me about a week to see why.

But I'm failing to see where Bea has gone wrong?

I don't want to see 'she's this or that...' I've read it several times. I want examples please :D

I'm NOT defending her by the way, just need to be shown the errors of my ways.

I'm as baffled as you are. It's incredible how blinkered some people can be. Many made their mind up as soon as Bea made a bee line for their beloved Freddie. The ironic thing is that Bea decided to put herself up for eviction in her 1st week rather than backstab Freddie. No one wants to acknowledge this of course.

[spitfire]

She's a good HM,far more entertaing than Hira,Sophie and Lisa.

[Vicky.]

I dont mind her really.

But last night she came across as using freddie because she is up for eviction...she didnt fancy him, he was sleazy, he gave her unwanted attention, then she just decides to jump in his bed with him? Sounds a bit weird...hes just as bad though, he should be able to see through it.

I think loads of the bea hate is unfounded. A few People have just jumped on the bandwagon with hating her, same as a lot of people have done with freddie since yesterday. Its nothing personal, they just need someone to hate...since lots of people are buttlicking lisa now.

[Johann]

She's done nothing wrong - people just make up bullshit reasons to hate her.

[Frankly_Mr_Shankly]

Originally posted by jt89
She's done nothing wrong - people just make up bullshit reasons to hate her.

Too right. It's time to fight back. Viva Bea!:flower:

[quietman1963]

Originally posted by ohflip
Originally posted by quietman1963
She accused/implied that David had stolen butter, but then denied it when David asked her about it. She acted all innocent and accused David of shouting at her(which he did Not) and being aggresive. She then tried to tell the whole household how nasty David was.

she simply asked him about the butter after marcus had told her 'he had half inched it'

she accused David of being a Bully(he was cetainely not nice )which she later mused on and said she had used the wrong word and even said to David that was the wrong word

But hey,lets not let the facts get in the way :rolleyes:

Yeah, so accusing somebody of being a bully(when David was not) and lying that she had been shouted at is ok ? Bea was obviously implying that the butter David was using was not his.

[jgfrise]

Giving Halfwit a handjob last night on Life Feed, in such an obvious way had put the final nail in the coffin for me:mad:

[IheartBB]

She's had the opposite effect on me. I didn't like her at first, now I'm loving her more and more. No doubt she'll be out soon though (if not next week), the voting public baffle me at times.

[Shasown]

Oh come on she may have seen more cock ends than weekends and she may be ginger, but she must have some redeeming features.

[ohflip]

Originally posted by jgfrise
Giving Halfwit a handjob last night on Life Feed, in such an obvious way had put the final nail in the coffin for me:mad:

its getting silly with these type of allegations...could you post the x-ray camera used please as most of us watching last night were restricted to normal T.V.:rolleyes:

[JustKaz]

Originally posted by ohflip
Originally posted by quietman1963
She accused/implied that David had stolen butter, but then denied it when David asked her about it. She acted all innocent and accused David of shouting at her(which he did Not) and being aggresive. She then tried to tell the whole household how nasty David was.

she simply asked him about the butter after marcus had told her 'he had half inched it'

she accused David of being a Bully(he was cetainely not nice )which she later mused on and said she had used the wrong word and even said to David that was the wrong word

But hey,lets not let the facts get in the way :rolleyes:


Ok bea suppose to be very articulate ? How many times has she caused a bicker, and when these people speak back to her with their opionion, Bea has then turned round and said ' oh perhaps that was wrong word???......

she has already casued the upset, gets the attention casued the atmosphere, ( to help along noms for that person)and then makes the apols about her ' wrong choice of words' to them.

very clever

[h33]

I haven't been watching enough lf to be able to give a well evidenced argument, but here's my opinion...:

When Bea came in I thought she was a breath of fresh air. She seemed honest, straight forward, a bit of fun and kooky.

I had been a fan of Noirin's, but found it increasingly hard to accept the way she was with Siavash when he so obviously (well, as far as the hl show showed) was on a different page to her. But Bea took this on as a personal affront, launching off about her - poisoning the well - at any opportunity with any housemate who seemed open to listening to it. Noirin's cold and quite male response to her (no offence lads) made the others balk and Bea supplemented the ill-feeling with "reasons" to be suspicious of her.

She has fawned on Marcus, who was in prime position for new alliances given Noirin's rejection of him. And been pretty inappropriate with Siavash, albeit "jokingly", since entry.

But worse, and worst of all, is how she's played Freddie. She knew his type before she went in, was aware of his massive external support, and had some clues about a possible condition somewhere within the realms of dyslexia/ dispraxia/ autistic spectra. Within moments of entry she and he had attached to each other and she nurtured this.

She was aware of his very strong physical attraction to her from the get go and while maintaining to the others that it simply wasn't reciprocated, she actually sought him out to keep the pilot light going. She was familar enough with him early on to question what he was looking for or the obvious innuendo he came out with, yet it took her till the last few days...was it after evictions?!

She is now - since nominations - working really hard at reestablishing the Freddie pedestal on which she stood. One of my delights with tonight show was him being more frank and like the Freddie I saw before I lost all respect for him....kind but brutal responses to questions like "am I a moany whingebag?"

I want her out, but tonights show made me understand why I want her out so much. I hate people like her. People who define themselves by who they are around, tweaking themselves to what they think the others think is cool. Living their life by trying to manipulate their fortune and that of those around them .

This is all, of course, in my own honest opinion.

[Jezzy]

I still haven't lost respect for Bea. I don't particularly like her, but she is creating a lot of what is keeping the show interesting.

She IS a psychologist. I actually like that she went into the house as a psychologist, but is slowly becoming herself and losing the professional control. Keep her.

She's a BB plant who was given the task of creating conflict, and she's done it well. She knows she'll never win. Actually my respect for her grows :thumbs:

[ohflip]

Originally posted by JustKaz
Originally posted by ohflip
Originally posted by quietman1963
She accused/implied that David had stolen butter, but then denied it when David asked her about it. She acted all innocent and accused David of shouting at her(which he did Not) and being aggresive. She then tried to tell the whole household how nasty David was.

she simply asked him about the butter after marcus had told her 'he had half inched it'

she accused David of being a Bully(he was cetainely not nice )which she later mused on and said she had used the wrong word and even said to David that was the wrong word

But hey,lets not let the facts get in the way :rolleyes:


Ok bea suppose to be very articulate ? How many times has she caused a bicker, and when these people speak back to his with their opionion, Bea has then turned round and said ' oh perhaps that was wrong word???......

she has already casued the upset, gets the attention casued the atmosphere, ( to help along noms for that person)and then makes the apols about her ' wrong choice of words' to them.

very clever

Articulte doesnt stop you from using a wrong word in a heated sitution.....shes a normal women not a politition..as i pointed out she simply asked a question in a polite fashion but David if you remember had been primed earlier by Lisa and he jumped straight at Bea.So lets use facts and not the way some people think it was construed


ADD NOTE
I am very articulate within my sphere of operation at work but away from that environment if some one upset me you would think Marcus was Eloquent with his speech

[godfather545]

Originally posted by VickyJ
I dont mind her really.

But last night she came across as using freddie because she is up for eviction...she didnt fancy him, he was sleazy, he gave her unwanted attention, then she just decides to jump in his bed with him? Sounds a bit weird...hes just as bad though, he should be able to see through it.

I think loads of the bea hate is unfounded. A few People have just jumped on the bandwagon with hating her, same as a lot of people have done with freddie since yesterday. Its nothing personal, they just need someone to hate...since lots of people are buttlicking lisa now.

Poor poor analysis.....

There is no bandwagon hopping. People who have social awareness and a certain level of intellegence can see exactly what Bea is up to. She completly manipulated the david situation where she bitched behind his back and called him all kind of names. when he cottoned on to her she then tried to turn it round because she knew she had been caught. she tried to become the victim. she did it in a very subtle clever way which is why quite a few people on the outside worlld have been fooled.

Freddie has lost fans in last couple of days because even semi intellegent child can see he is just blinded by his infactuation of bea and thus is sticking up for anything she does, to the point where he has become a nasty piece of work. he thinks lisa has turned house against bea, when really everyone nom'd her because they can see what a nasty piece of work she is. one of freddies weaknesses is his unyeilding confidence in his own theories. half of them are completly of the mark, but he arrogantly thinks he is right all the time, leading to a lot of deluded behaviour.

[squinky]

why is it just assumed that she only befriended freddie because of his popularity,isnt that a very narrow minded veiw.has it not occured to anyone,that,maybe she likes him...it is a possibility.

[squinky]

as for freddie defending bea,its called loyalty,which is a rare trait.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by squinky
why is it just assumed that she only befriended freddie because of his popularity,isnt that a very narrow minded veiw.has it not occured to anyone,that,maybe she likes him...it is a possibility.

Yes it is a very cynical view of her, and deep down she may indeed actually like him, however her actions and what she has said seem to prove that view of her is valid

[h33]

I really don't think she does, in fact after the initial glamour of being in there wore off, I think she was quite repulsed by him and his affection for her...

[setanta]

Originally posted by squinky
why is it just assumed that she only befriended freddie because of his popularity,isnt that a very narrow minded veiw.has it not occured to anyone,that,maybe she likes him...it is a possibility.

Rubbish. She was distancing herself from him prior to nominations being announced and now she's worming her way back into his affections, when she had been so quick to criticise his lecherous behaviour to others beforehand.

There's so many more examples of her conniving and duplictious nature but it's just boring repeating it all because she honestly just makes me mad.

[Twiggy]

Originally posted by VickyJ
I dont mind her really.

But last night she came across as using freddie because she is up for eviction...she didnt fancy him, he was sleazy, he gave her unwanted attention, then she just decides to jump in his bed with him? Sounds a bit weird...hes just as bad though, he should be able to see through it.

I think loads of the bea hate is unfounded. A few People have just jumped on the bandwagon with hating her, same as a lot of people have done with freddie since yesterday. Its nothing personal, they just need someone to hate...since lots of people are buttlicking lisa now. Or like they were with Lisa.

[h33]

Originally posted by setanta
There's so many more examples of her conniving and duplictious nature but it's just boring repeating it all because she honestly just makes me mad.

:kiss:

[squinky]

maybe she likes him?,maybe,it was down his public support?but this veiw point was assumed by some, from the moment she walked through the door.its simply an observation.i dont like to make those kind of judgements to quickly,given that i only see an an hour of edited footage a day.it was uncomfortable when she was talking about the fact that he always seemed to be where she was,but,maybe there was some truth,maybe he was shadowing her,like i said,1 hour out of 24,i cant assume to know what happens the rest of the time.

[kma]

Originally posted by Jezzy


She IS a psychologist. I actually like that she went into the house as a psychologist,

creepy Marcus should ask her why he's is such a moron and why he's still dependant on his mother.

[setanta]

Originally posted by squinky
maybe she likes him?,maybe,it was down his public support?but this veiw point was assumed by some, from the moment she walked through the door.its simply an observation.i dont like to make those kind of judgements to quickly,given that i only see an an hour of edited footage a day.it was uncomfortable when she was talking about the fact that he always seemed to be where she was,but,maybe there was some truth,maybe he was shadowing her,like i said,1 hour out of 24,i cant assume to know what happens the rest of the time.

She condemned his behaviour privately to others in the group, even when his alleged indescretions were hardly that bad: not bad enough to go waffling about it. I don't think that's the behaviour of someone who truly cares for Freddie.

[Ham]

She exists... is`nt that enough?

[aborigenie]

its her face ?

someone here described it as slappable ....

then i realised exactly what was the word i was looking for...

[squinky]

fair point setanta,she should have spoken directly to freddie about her feelings.im not defending those particular actions,i agree that she should have been more open(maybe she was and it wasnt shown on the HL).even if people feel their opinions are justified now,by this behaviour,i was simply observing that this judgement was made by some from the moment she went in.

[setanta]

Originally posted by squinky
fair point setanta,she should have spoken directly to freddie about her feelings.im not defending those particular actions,i agree that she should have been more open(maybe she was and it wasnt shown on the HL).even if people feel their opinions are justified now,by this behaviour,i was simply observing that this judgement was made by some from the moment she went in.

I understand, but I haven't liked the woman since she defended herself over the secret task in front of everyone, at the expense of all the other new housemates. She's a duplitious and vindictive young lady. The cosying up to Freddie in bed now is nearly making me vomit.

[squinky]

fair enough.