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dnt1234
07-08-2009, 12:02 PM
Lets help get rid of bea. shes turning him into something hes not. Hes a lover not a fighter.

Besides shes only with him coz she knows the public like him.
I hate the fact she thinks shes too good for him. shes believes shes can do better.
Actually when you think about it, if freddie wasnt a hippy like whatever. he wd be very attractive. actually betterlooking than bea.
What really pissed me off, was that **** about her being well known in her circles. feativals, ibiza, all that. BULLLLLSHHIIIITTTT.
shes using him like a dog.


So anyway listen up, almost half the british public is saving freddie already.
We need to get rid of bea.
Shes the favourite to bea but very closely followed by hira and david.
So please just save david and hira. 09016 16 16 18, 09016 16 16 19. its only a £1
then beas a goner

karezza
07-08-2009, 12:04 PM
If Bea goes then Freddie will be up against Marcus next week.

Is this what you want? Is it? Is it? Is it?

dnt1234
07-08-2009, 12:05 PM
if bea goes, lisa will be up with marcus or david.
thats alright

=-Incognito-=
07-08-2009, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by dnt1234
if bea goes, lisa will be up with marcus or david.
thats alright

Where's the votes going to come from for Lisa and David?

Bea needs to stay this week regardless, once Lisa is gone it's safe to lose Bea.

Shasown
07-08-2009, 12:19 PM
You are all forgetting the wild cards, Siavash or Marcus can and will put the boot in to the nomination procedure. Marcus knows his punishment was BS, it was a smoke screen to keep the heat off Siavash.

If Marcus' name hadnt been mentioned next week most of the housemates would nominate Siavash in retaliation, that way he gets his wish and gets put up for eviction and nominates as normal. Now he has to refuse to nominate or loose face.

Marcus on the other hand loves the chaos and worry produced in all the other housemates caused by the having everyone up so next week he will probably refuse to nominate as well.***EDIT*** Plus he knows its the best way to get rid of those the public dislike as opposed to factional nomination, in his mind its fairer and hopefully Lisa will get evicted.

If you think BB will sanction them individually think again, the reason for that is they can use their behaviour as an excuse to run another money spinning eviction as "punishment". the only people being punished are the public, forking over more money in a vote to save.

Showstopper
07-08-2009, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by karezza
If Bea goes then Freddie will be up against Marcus next week.

Is this what you want? Is it? Is it? Is it?

100% correct and Siavash the week after

setanta
07-08-2009, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Shasown
You are all forgetting the wild cards, Siavash or Marcus can and will put the boot in to the nomination procedure. Marcus knows his punishment was BS, it was a smoke screen to keep the heat off Siavash.

If Marcus' name hadnt been mentioned next week most of the housemates would nominate Siavash in retaliation, that way he gets his wish and gets put up for eviction and nominates as normal. Now he has to refuse to nominate or loose face.

Marcus on the other hand loves the chaos and worry produced in all the other housemates caused by the having everyone up so next week he will probably refuse to nominate as well.

If you think BB will sanction them individually think again, the reason for that is they can use their behaviour as an excuse to run another money spinning eviction as "punishment". the only people being punished are the public, forking over more money in a vote to save.

Well thought out and controlled piece of writing and I agree with everything you've spoken of. They're playing into the hands of these two guys and making a mockery of their own show in the process. I wonder now if a line will be drawn eventually..... interesting to see how it develops anyway.

Showstopper
07-08-2009, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by dnt1234
if bea goes, lisa will be up with marcus or david.
thats alright

No if Bea goes Lisa and David will only get 3 nominations

Marcus will get 6 or at least 5 (Lisa, David, Sophie, Hira, Rodrigo, Charlie)

Freddie will get at least 4 ( Lisa, David, Sophie, Rodrigo )

Do the maths. If Lisa stays its Freddie v Marcus (and Freddie v Siavash the next week)

If Lisa goes David will get at least 4 nominations, go up against marcus and be evicted.

andyman
07-08-2009, 12:26 PM
When Hira nominates, is it really valid? Are her views valid given that she does sweet FA.

Showstopper
07-08-2009, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Shasown
You are all forgetting the wild cards, Siavash or Marcus can and will put the boot in to the nomination procedure. Marcus knows his punishment was BS, it was a smoke screen to keep the heat off Siavash.

If Marcus' name hadnt been mentioned next week most of the housemates would nominate Siavash in retaliation, that way he gets his wish and gets put up for eviction and nominates as normal. Now he has to refuse to nominate or loose face.

Marcus on the other hand loves the chaos and worry produced in all the other housemates caused by the having everyone up so next week he will probably refuse to nominate as well.***EDIT*** Plus he knows its the best way to get rid of those the public dislike as opposed to factional nomination, in his mind its fairer and hopefully Lisa will get evicted.

If you think BB will sanction them individually think again, the reason for that is they can use their behaviour as an excuse to run another money spinning eviction as "punishment". the only people being punished are the public, forking over more money in a vote to save.

Siavash will nominate as he has already apologised for what had happened. If he had been given the oppertunity this week to nominate once he discovered everyone would be punished. he would have

Marcus loves breaking the rules yes, but he also loves nominating. He's a competitor plain and simple, he would not willingly give up the chance to nominate

28thapril
07-08-2009, 12:28 PM
Sorry i've been voting for freddie,marcus and now bea just coz i DISLIKE lisa that much :thumbs::thumbs2:

And i've decided going by the floating odds that Lisa has to go:xyxwave::xyxwave:

So by the afternoon i could be adding Hira too hang the expense hubby won't know till the end of the month:joker:

Shasown
07-08-2009, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by dnt1234
if bea goes, lisa will be up with marcus or david.
thats alright

No if Bea goes Lisa and David will only get 3 nominations

Marcus will get 6 or at least 5 (Lisa, David, Sophie, Hira, Rodrigo, Charlie)

Freddie will get at least 4 ( Lisa, David, Sophie, Rodrigo )

Do the maths. If Lisa stays its Freddie v Marcus (and Freddie v Siavash the next week)

If Lisa goes David will get at least 4 nominations, go up against marcus and be evicted.

And as if to further compound the nomination fiasco if Bea gets evicted next week Freddie will probably refuse to nominate, he isnt stupid he will realise all the possible variations of the way the nominations can go and realise his best chance to survive and get Lisa out is another vote with all housemates up

setanta
07-08-2009, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by Shasown
You are all forgetting the wild cards, Siavash or Marcus can and will put the boot in to the nomination procedure. Marcus knows his punishment was BS, it was a smoke screen to keep the heat off Siavash.

If Marcus' name hadnt been mentioned next week most of the housemates would nominate Siavash in retaliation, that way he gets his wish and gets put up for eviction and nominates as normal. Now he has to refuse to nominate or loose face.

Marcus on the other hand loves the chaos and worry produced in all the other housemates caused by the having everyone up so next week he will probably refuse to nominate as well.***EDIT*** Plus he knows its the best way to get rid of those the public dislike as opposed to factional nomination, in his mind its fairer and hopefully Lisa will get evicted.

If you think BB will sanction them individually think again, the reason for that is they can use their behaviour as an excuse to run another money spinning eviction as "punishment". the only people being punished are the public, forking over more money in a vote to save.

Siavash will nominate as he has already apologised for what had happened. If he had been given the oppertunity this week to nominate once he discovered everyone would be punished. he would have

Marcus loves breaking the rules yes, but he also loves nominating. He's a competitor plain and simple, he would not willingly give up the chance to nominate

I think their gameplaying and posturings will all depend on how this eviction goes. If its in favour of their group I'd say there'll be more disruptive behaviour but sure you never really know.

Big Brother do have to step up to the plate and take proper action eventually.

Shasown
07-08-2009, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Showstopper

Marcus loves breaking the rules yes, but he also loves nominating. He's a competitor plain and simple, he would not willingly give up the chance to nominate

Marcus likes bucking the system, and coming out on top, he isnt a competitor he is a player, and he likes to break rules.

He also has a winners mindset and if Bea is out it will occur to him he will probably be up against Freddie. therefore he foregoes the pleasure of nominations to get one over not only Lisa and co but BB as well.

Showstopper
07-08-2009, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by dnt1234
if bea goes, lisa will be up with marcus or david.
thats alright

No if Bea goes Lisa and David will only get 3 nominations

Marcus will get 6 or at least 5 (Lisa, David, Sophie, Hira, Rodrigo, Charlie)

Freddie will get at least 4 ( Lisa, David, Sophie, Rodrigo )

Do the maths. If Lisa stays its Freddie v Marcus (and Freddie v Siavash the next week)

If Lisa goes David will get at least 4 nominations, go up against marcus and be evicted.

And as if to further compound the nomination fiasco if Bea gets evicted next week Freddie will probably refuse to nominate, he isnt stupid he will realise all the possible variations of the way the nominations can go and realise his best chance to survive and get Lisa out is another vote with all housemates up

I disagree - he will not risk getting chucked out knowing how popular he is

also BB wont let people continuously break this rule - they will not keep issuing the same punishment

If Marcus tries to bypass the Nomination process BB will see it and step in

Otherwise they risk the future of the show

Theres no getting around it - Bea needs to be saved

dnt1234
07-08-2009, 03:59 PM
You guys dont understand that as long as bea is in the house, freddie isnt the underdog. last weeks odds showed freddie was favourite to win closely followed by sophie and charlie. that was b4 this weeks bad freddie footage.
People aint feeling sorry for freddie no more.
Truth be told hes getting bad editing of late.
If bea stays in, sophie is winning.

chris1232
07-08-2009, 04:01 PM
He will win Dw :D