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loomy

07-08-2009, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by Jonnii
It is always predictable from about this stage. Don't worry about it!

Not this predictable - can't believe people are so short sighted in keeping Lisa in
Have you thought that some people don't actually like the terrible trio of Marcus-Siavash-Freddie and would like to see them split up before the final?

kellybsblover

07-08-2009, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by Jonnii
It is always predictable from about this stage. Don't worry about it!

Not this predictable - can't believe people are so short sighted in keeping Lisa in
Have you thought that some people don't actually like the terrible trio of Marcus-Siavash-Freddie and would like to see them split up before the final?
Amen to this post! I can't stand these three...

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 01:41 PM

kellybsblover

07-08-2009, 01:43 PM

Is the bitch number 1?

Niamh.

07-08-2009, 01:43 PM

Wildcat!

07-08-2009, 01:44 PM

Regardless of who you are a fan of, I think most people didnt like the way they are acting right now, and being so smug. This will continue, till the end of the series, unless, BEa, or Marcus gets evited. Of course Marcus wont be. HE is pretty popular imo. SO the only thing that would be a good result, is if BEa goes tonight! So vote to save Hira. She is the only one n danger of going over BEa.

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper
I'm gutted. Thats BB10 runied now

Evictions for the next 3 weeks are completely predictable and we'll have boring finalists :mad:
What are you basing this on?

Chels

07-08-2009, 01:48 PM

We'll have a final of David, Lisa, Rodrigo, Hira and Charlie. :bored:
i like charlie though.

jet

07-08-2009, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by Jonnii
It is always predictable from about this stage. Don't worry about it!

Not this predictable - can't believe people are so short sighted in keeping Lisa in
Have you thought that some people don't actually like the terrible trio of Marcus-Siavash-Freddie and would like to see them split up before the final?

I like Siavash but I hate Marcus & Freddie. Siavash doesn't seem to be as Clanish with them now since "Noiringate" so I'm glad about that. Would like to see him in there without Marcus & Freddie!!

Siavash has a great chance if they go! :dance2:

loomy

07-08-2009, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by Jonnii
It is always predictable from about this stage. Don't worry about it!

Not this predictable - can't believe people are so short sighted in keeping Lisa in
Have you thought that some people don't actually like the terrible trio of Marcus-Siavash-Freddie and would like to see them split up before the final?

Of course, but firstly I doubt fans want the show to be predictable even if they dont like those 3, and secondly the vast majority are a fan of at least one of them
It's been predictable all the way through!! People weren't complaining when we knew Freddie was going to beat everyone in eviction!

Claymores

07-08-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by kellybsblover
Is the bitch number 1?

Yes, but only narrowly ahead of Hira - if gamblers are to be believed, it'll effectively a direct shoot-out between Queen Bea and Hira:

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/big-brother/next-eviction

kellybsblover

07-08-2009, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by Chels.x
We'll have a final of David, Lisa, Rodrigo, Hira and Charlie. :bored:
i like charlie though.
I can't tell you how happy I would be specially is Rodrigo won!:elephant:

ange7

07-08-2009, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Showstopper
I'm gutted. Thats BB10 runied now

Evictions for the next 3 weeks are completely predictable and we'll have boring finalists :mad:
What are you basing this on?

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/events/2009/big-brother-10/blog/images//2009/06/lisa500.jpg

=-Incognito-=

07-08-2009, 01:56 PM

If Lisa isn't going, the top priority for almost everybody else should be to save Bea.

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 01:59 PM

I don't understand, why do the odds keep changing all the time, based on what exactly? I don't know where they get their info from?

Why is Bea last, for instance? What info do they base this on?

All rather puzzling, because at 3 am last night, they changed it back to Lisa being fave to go.

=-Incognito-=

07-08-2009, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Regardless of who you are a fan of, I think most people didnt like the way they are acting right now, and being so smug. This will continue, till the end of the series, unless, BEa, or Marcus gets evited. Of course Marcus wont be. HE is pretty popular imo. SO the only thing that would be a good result, is if BEa goes tonight! So vote to save Hira. She is the only one n danger of going over BEa.

Bea needs to stay tonight in order to keep the balance of power, if she goes it'll be back to the first five weeks of the show. She's a cert to be up next week so there's no rush.

luminoussun

07-08-2009, 02:09 PM

Bea 6/4
Hira 2/1
David 4/1
Lisa 4/1

Marcus and freddie and bea fans only have bea to vote...bea haters need to vote for 3 of them I think david will go

=-Incognito-=

07-08-2009, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
I don't understand, why do the odds keep changing all the time, based on what exactly? I don't know where they get their info from?

Why is Bea last, for instance? What info do they base this on?

All rather puzzling, because at 3 am last night, they changed it back to Lisa being fave to go.

It's only betting odds, they change depending on who people put money on. The best indicator by far is still an up to date poll.

loomy

07-08-2009, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by luminoussun
Bea 6/4
Hira 2/1
David 4/1
Lisa 4/1

Marcus and freddie and bea fans only have bea to vote...bea haters need to vote for 3 of them I think david will go
Most Freddie fans will be wanting Bea out ASAP

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by luminoussun
Bea 6/4
Hira 2/1
David 4/1
Lisa 4/1

Marcus and freddie and bea fans only have bea to vote...bea haters need to vote for 3 of them I think david will go
Freddie fans will not be saving Bea, lol. Moreso the opposite, trying to get her out.

Hira is a single entity pretty much, unfortunately.

Tons of Halfwit/Marcus/Bea haters will be saving Lisa and David.

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:11 PM

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by jet
Siavash has a great chance if they go! :dance2:

No - he will be up against Freddie for eviction in two weeks

HayleyLeigh

07-08-2009, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by kellybsblover
Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by Jonnii
It is always predictable from about this stage. Don't worry about it!

Not this predictable - can't believe people are so short sighted in keeping Lisa in
Have you thought that some people don't actually like the terrible trio of Marcus-Siavash-Freddie and would like to see them split up before the final?
Amen to this post! I can't stand these three...

:thumbs2: cant stand them either

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

It's only betting odds, they change depending on who people put money on. The best indicator by far is still an up to date poll.
It just seems bizarre, they must have reliable sources, I don't think they look at internet polls; or do they?

Do you think the TiBB poll is reliable? That would mean David might well go.

loomy

07-08-2009, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by jet
Siavash has a great chance if they go! :dance2:

No - he will be up against Freddie for eviction in two weeks
... and he'll probably win

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper

No - he will be up against Freddie for eviction in two weeks
Freddie is very vulnerable in vote to evict now, very.

HayleyLeigh

07-08-2009, 02:14 PM

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
I don't understand, why do the odds keep changing all the time, based on what exactly? I don't know where they get their info from?

Why is Bea last, for instance? What info do they base this on?

All rather puzzling, because at 3 am last night, they changed it back to Lisa being fave to go.

Its based on betting patterns, public opinion, and expert advice

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by kellybsblover
Is the bitch number 1?

Yes, but only narrowly ahead of Hira - if gamblers are to be believed, it'll effectively a direct shoot-out between Queen Bea and Hira:

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/big-brother/next-eviction

Do you believe them ?

I still think its close enough for a flurry to bring Lisa back into it

=-Incognito-=

07-08-2009, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by luminoussun
Bea 6/4
Hira 2/1
David 4/1
Lisa 4/1

Marcus and freddie and bea fans only have bea to vote...bea haters need to vote for 3 of them I think david will go
Most Freddie fans will be wanting Bea out ASAP

Ironic isn't it! Halfwit still needs Bea's voting power even though his fans know she's dragging him down. Simple maths shows that if Bea goes (therefore Lisa stays) there's an insurmountable voting gap for noms. Anyone who's voted...unwisely faces a very expensive bill to rectify the situation.

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

Ironic isn't it! Halfwit still needs Bea's voting power even though his fans know she's dragging him down. Simple maths shows that if Bea goes (therefore Lisa stays) there's an insurmountable voting gap for noms.
That's true, but Bea is ruining him far moreso than any worries of being up. He's survived like 6/7 evictions, so Bea aside, that's no issue.

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by luminoussun
Bea 6/4
Hira 2/1
David 4/1
Lisa 4/1

Marcus and freddie and bea fans only have bea to vote...bea haters need to vote for 3 of them I think david will go
Freddie fans will not be saving Bea, lol. Moreso the opposite, trying to get her out.

Hira is a single entity pretty much, unfortunately.

Tons of Halfwit/Marcus/Bea haters will be saving Lisa and David.

Smart Freddie Fans WILL save Bea as without her, he will be up every week for eviction (Marcus, Siavash and Freddie need her as she will not nominate them)

This has been explained numerous times

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper

Its based on betting patterns, public opinion, and expert advice
Interesting, it's just that what I've seen on the internet doesn't quite agree with their odds, but we shall see. Hira seems safer.

I guess I'm comparing the odds mainly to the TiBB and DS Polls.

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

Ironic isn't it! Halfwit still needs Bea's voting power even though his fans know she's dragging him down. Simple maths shows that if Bea goes (therefore Lisa stays) there's an insurmountable voting gap for noms.
That's true, but Bea is ruining him far moreso than any worries of being up. He's survived like 6/7 evictions, so Bea aside, that's no issue.

Yes but when he keeps getting put up against his friends he will take it out on the rest of the house particularly Lisa. That is going to make him look far worse then Bea would

Think about it

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper

Smart Freddie Fans WILL save Bea as without her, he will be up every week for eviction (Marcus, Siavash and Freddie need her as she will not nominate them)

This has been explained numerous times
But with Bea he won't win, and will continue to decline in popularity, so what use is getting to the final and finishing 4th or something?

He was dead set on 1st without Bea, and may still win if she leaves.

sl3ptsolong

07-08-2009, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper
I'm gutted. Thats BB10 runied now

Evictions for the next 3 weeks are completely predictable and we'll have boring finalists :mad:

You want a dummy?

loomy

07-08-2009, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by luminoussun
Bea 6/4
Hira 2/1
David 4/1
Lisa 4/1

Marcus and freddie and bea fans only have bea to vote...bea haters need to vote for 3 of them I think david will go
Freddie fans will not be saving Bea, lol. Moreso the opposite, trying to get her out.

Hira is a single entity pretty much, unfortunately.

Tons of Halfwit/Marcus/Bea haters will be saving Lisa and David.

Smart Freddie Fans WILL save Bea as without her, he will be up every week for eviction (Marcus, Siavash and Freddie need her as she will not nominate them)

This has been explained numerous times
But if Bea is saved it's more than likely that Freddie's support will continue to decline. If she leaves now there is a small chance he could redeem himself and win. It's better to nip it in the bud. Only one of them can win; Freddie fan would be better taking their chances and hoping that he beats Siavash in an eviction (I think he's easily beat Marcus). The only difference is that they will face each other a couple of weeks earlier than if they had been in the finals together.

Claymores

07-08-2009, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by kellybsblover
Is the bitch number 1?

Yes, but only narrowly ahead of Hira - if gamblers are to be believed, it'll effectively a direct shoot-out between Queen Bea and Hira:

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/big-brother/next-eviction

Do you believe them ?

I still think its close enough for a flurry to bring Lisa back into it

The money has simply followed the online polls which have been influenced by this week events.

However, those polls are skewed by forumites talking of tactically voting to get rid of Bea to stick 2 fingers up at Halfarse.

It is still unclear whether the public at large will be thinking as deeply about tactical voting.

It's not really worth a punt this time IMHO.

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by sl3ptsolong
Originally posted by Showstopper
I'm gutted. Thats BB10 runied now

Evictions for the next 3 weeks are completely predictable and we'll have boring finalists :mad:

You want a dummy?

No I have no use for you and am currently not hiring

Thank you for expressing an interest however :pat:

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:24 PM

I have to agree Claymores, and it seems to be changing every hour anyway. I really think it'll be tight between Lisa/Bea/David/Hira and perhaps Charlie/Rodrigo. All to play for!

=-Incognito-=

07-08-2009, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Showstopper

Smart Freddie Fans WILL save Bea as without her, he will be up every week for eviction (Marcus, Siavash and Freddie need her as she will not nominate them)

This has been explained numerous times
But with Bea he won't win, and will continue to decline in popularity, so what use is getting to the final and finishing 4th or something?

He was dead set on 1st without Bea, and may still win if she leaves.

Who says he or we have to take Bea to the final? Only two opposing voters need to go (or 1 Lisa) before Bea can be swiftly dispatched.

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=

Who says he or we have to take Bea to the final? Only two opposing voters need to go (or 1 Lisa) before Bea can be swiftly dispatched.
So next week when Bea is put up, are you gonna evict her? Seems pointless, it's just another week for Freddie to dig himself a deeper hole, or for Bea to dig Freddie a deeper hole.

Nip it in the bud now, as another poster said.

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by loomy

But if Bea is saved it's more than likely that Freddie's support will continue to decline. If she leaves now there is a small chance he could redeem himself and win. It's better to nip it in the bud. Only one of them can win; Freddie fan would be better taking their chances and hoping that he beats Siavash in an eviction (I think he's easily beat Marcus). The only difference is that they will face each other a couple of weeks earlier than if they had been in the finals together.

Disagree

Firstly Siavash is now the overall favourite to win, so at the time of writing he would be evicted more then likely

Also Freddie has more chance of returning to his old self with his friends around him then being targeted each week and have his friends leave

Its a real possibility that if Bea is voted out he could be evicted in two weeks when he comes up against Siavash

If Bea is kept in he is almost guarenteed a final spot

Claymores

07-08-2009, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
I have to agree Claymores, and it seems to be changing every hour anyway. I really think it'll be tight between Lisa/Bea/David/Hira and perhaps Charlie/Rodrigo. All to play for!

When you're talking a few percent each for the bottom 4, that translates into very few votes - the margins between the actual votes cast will be tiny and a few votes could swing it any way I think.

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Claymores

The money has simply followed the online polls which have been influenced by this week events.

However, those polls are scewed by forumites talking of tactically voting to get rid of Bea to stick 2 fingers up at Halfarse.

It is still unclear whether the public at large will be thinking as deeply about tactical voting.

It's not really worth a punt this time IMHO.

Interesting, I bet on Lisa at the earliest possible oppertunity, as I thought her odds would drift to a point which would make it not worth it to bet. how wrong I was

It dosent look good for that bet now but I just can't see people voting in their droves to save her

The others are love/hate type housemates, but to me and anyone I've talked to she is just a non entity

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
I have to agree Claymores, and it seems to be changing every hour anyway. I really think it'll be tight between Lisa/Bea/David/Hira and perhaps Charlie/Rodrigo. All to play for!

When you're talking a few percent each for the bottom 4, that translates into very few votes - the margins between the actual votes cast will be tiny and a few votes could swing it any way I think.

It must be like Xmas at channel 4 at the moment :bored:

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Claymores
When you're talking a few percent each for the bottom 4, that translates into very few votes - the margins between the actual votes cast will be tiny and a few votes could swing it any way I think.
Yep, and the way I see it, each vote this week is like worth 5 VOTES relative to normal weeks. Because there's far more competition for each vote cast by a BB fan, they have 10 HMs to pick rather than 2.

It really could come down to something like 50-100 votes deciding the differences between the bottom 3 or so.

SO OUR VOTES REALLY COUNT FOR ONCE! :spin:

PooBay

07-08-2009, 02:36 PM

Looks like the gay community may have given her a stay of execution this week. Shame.

Claymores

07-08-2009, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by Claymores

The money has simply followed the online polls which have been influenced by this week events.

However, those polls are scewed by forumites talking of tactically voting to get rid of Bea to stick 2 fingers up at Halfarse.

It is still unclear whether the public at large will be thinking as deeply about tactical voting.

It's not really worth a punt this time IMHO.

Interesting, I bet on Lisa at the earliest possible oppertunity, as I thought her odds would drift to a point which would make it not worth it to bet. how wrong I was

It dosent look good for that bet now but I just can't see people voting in their droves to save her

The others are love/hate type housemates, but to me and anyone I've talked to she is just a non entity

I put a whole £10 on David as soon as the markets opened LOL - but circumstances have changed big time and I actually believe the current odds are probably a fair reflection.

But I say once again, the margins between the bottom 4 will be very few votes indeed in murerical terms so it could swing any way.

That's why I haven't bothered betting serious amounts this week!!!!!

Blueisthecolour

07-08-2009, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Showstopper
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Showstopper
I'm gutted. Thats BB10 runied now

Evictions for the next 3 weeks are completely predictable and we'll have boring finalists :mad:
What are you basing this on?

Maths and Logic

It's pretty obvious to be fair.

If Bea goes tonight, next week will be Marcus and Freddy for eviction. The only question being whether Siavash will join them.

Lisa's gang will all vote for Marcus and Freddy, whilst the floaters like Rodders and maybe Hira will vote for Siavash because of his part in the nominations this week.

The voting will be something like Marcus 5, Freddy 5, Siavash 4.

Lisa will not get more than three votes - Freddy, Marcus and MAYBE Rodrigo but more likely Siavash.

The week after that there will be even fewer people to vote against Lisa as one of Marcus, Freddy and The Vash will be gone.

The final five WILL be David, Lisa, Sophie, Charlie and Rodders.

The only thing that can stop that is if Freddy's support mobilises to keep him. The only vulnerable one would Rodrigo.

David, Lisa, Sophie and Charlie are shoe-ins to the final week if Lisa stays and Bea goes tonight.

loomy

07-08-2009, 02:53 PM

I don't think that it's a clear cut as marcus vs freddie and siavash vs freddie because I'm not sure people are going to revert to voting Freddie. No one has nommed him for a few weeks now I can't see them suddenly switching back to voting for him. I think it's much moe likely we'll have a couple of 3 way votes e.g. Marcus vs Freddy (maybe) or Siavash vs Lisa with Lisa going. Then after that I can't say how people will vote.

After this week I think Siavash vs Marcus is the most likely outcome next week regardless of whether or not Bea stays

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Claymores

But I say once again, the margins between the bottom 4 will be very few votes indeed in murerical terms so it could swing any way.

That's why I haven't bothered betting serious amounts this week!!!!!
How tight do you reckon it will be? 200 votes or so between them?

Claymores

07-08-2009, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Claymores

But I say once again, the margins between the bottom 4 will be very few votes indeed in murerical terms so it could swing any way.

That's why I haven't bothered betting serious amounts this week!!!!!
How tight do you reckon it will be? 200 votes or so between them?

Anybody's guess!

When Kara-Louse was voted out over Jonty as second evictee in that double-eviction, they were shown as having exactly the same percentage.

it must literally have been in the 10s!!!!!

AhmedFan2004

07-08-2009, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Claymores

Anybody's guess!

When Kara-Louse was voted out over Jonty as second evictee in that double-eviction, they were shown as having exactly the same percentage.

it must literally have been in the 10s!!!!!
Interesting, in your opinion if I want to get Bea out, should I split my votes up more between Lisa/David (and maybe Hira?)

I was going to just put them all on Lisa to ensure the worst outcome is least likely to occur (her going), but I may split them up.

If it's going to be close ...

Claymores

07-08-2009, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Interesting, in your opinion if I want to get Bea out, should I split my votes up more between Lisa/David (and maybe Hira?)

I was going to just put them all on Lisa to ensure the worst outcome is least likely to occur (her going), but I may split them up.

If it's going to be close ...

I just voted Lisa lots of times up to now, but now I'm panicking and thinking of voting a few Hira and David each!!!!!

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by loomy
I don't think that it's a clear cut as marcus vs freddie and siavash vs freddie because I'm not sure people are going to revert to voting Freddie. No one has nommed him for a few weeks now I can't see them suddenly switching back to voting for him. I think it's much moe likely we'll have a couple of 3 way votes e.g. Marcus vs Freddy (maybe) or Siavash vs Lisa with Lisa going. Then after that I can't say how people will vote.

After this week I think Siavash vs Marcus is the most likely outcome next week regardless of whether or not Bea stays

Um were you watching last week? He got nominated (obviously nominations didnt count cause of Siavash and Marcus)

Are you telling me for one second that after the fights of this week with Bea gone, that there is any chance of Lisa and David not nominating him ???

Sophie will nominate him again, and so will Rodrigo

Thats 4 votes already which will see him up

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Claymores

Anybody's guess!

When Kara-Louse was voted out over Jonty as second evictee in that double-eviction, they were shown as having exactly the same percentage.

it must literally have been in the 10s!!!!!
Interesting, in your opinion if I want to get Bea out, should I split my votes up more between Lisa/David (and maybe Hira?)

I was going to just put them all on Lisa to ensure the worst outcome is least likely to occur (her going), but I may split them up.

If it's going to be close ...

Its pointless to vote for Lisa now. She is only 4th fav to go. IF you want Bea out (which I still feel is a mistake if you support Fred, marcus, or Siavash but how and ever) you should be voting for Hira and David

Showstopper

07-08-2009, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Interesting, in your opinion if I want to get Bea out, should I split my votes up more between Lisa/David (and maybe Hira?)

I was going to just put them all on Lisa to ensure the worst outcome is least likely to occur (her going), but I may split them up.

If it's going to be close ...

I just voted Lisa lots of times up to now, but now I'm panicking and thinking of voting a few Hira and David each!!!!!

Why were you voting for Lisa if you had money on David????

Surely you should have been voting for Bea as she is fav to go