Why does everyone hate Freddie now? [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

cassieparis

08-08-2009, 08:20 AM

I was never drawn to him. He permanently irritated Kris Karly Dogface and Lisa with his great need to patronise and seek attention at the beginning of the show. Other H/ms also suffered this irrritation and nominated him but it is only some that seem to get the blame for him being up so many times.

I agree his isolation and being ostrasised has triggered alot of compassion and pity and it must of been horrible but the space it gave him allowed us to see how controlling and snobbish he really is.

Vladimir

08-08-2009, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I'm glad he didn't got a lot of cheers last night and boos instead. It was so good.

:cheer2:

xmynxiex

08-08-2009, 08:27 AM

Freddie is brill, :bigsmile: Its true he wont win Charlies won this :cloud:

Jackie

08-08-2009, 08:32 AM

Hes got abit smug especially when he said the public like him but i still think he has a chance of winning still.

rsefitpro2009

08-08-2009, 08:37 AM

I wouldnt rule him out yet, the dynamics change instantly this year, Siavash wasnt liked with this Noirin thing now he seems to have recovered.

Charlie won't win i don't see him as a winner, nor do i see him picking enough votes up.

I still say the key is to evict Bea and then we shall see what happens!

virtuoso88

08-08-2009, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by rsefitpro2009
I wouldnt rule him out yet, the dynamics change instantly this year, Siavash wasnt liked with this Noirin thing now he seems to have recovered.

Charlie won't win i don't see him as a winner, nor do i see him picking enough votes up.

I still say the key is to evict Bea and then we shall see what happens!

I tend to agree with your points.

dogonfire

08-08-2009, 08:43 AM

Freddie is the bomb... sadly, the little slut vixen bea hasn't helped him. BB put her in there because they knew she would ravitate to him and he would like her.. She needs to go, she is dead weight and dragging him down.

Love Freddie, bitch bea to go... then rodrigo that pansy ass little fag

dizzy bint

08-08-2009, 08:47 AM

Still loving Freddie. He's been the subject of a series of bad edits recently and on the spin off shows they take every opportunity to have a dig at him and the audience are very fickle.

Charlie starts being aggressive on the highlights show and he shoots up in the betting. What the ... ?

Say what you like about Freddie he's never physically manhandled another housemate.

And what exactly has Siavash done in the past 2 weeks except get all his fellow housemates up for eviction? On the live feed last night he didn't look too unhappy that Hira had gone.

Kazanne

08-08-2009, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by BigDuncsBestMate
he has been acting like a big ******in kid all beacuse the other HM's dont like Bea an nominated her.

Banging on about game plans when he is playing a massive game himself.

Boo Hoo ! its pathetic, grow up you posh w**ker !!!!

Oh you've definately got a touch of the green eyed monster there,lol:dance:

Kazanne

08-08-2009, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by jackie46
Hes got abit smug especially when he said the public like him but i still think he has a chance of winning still.

Have you not cottoned on yet,he said that to wind Lisa up,and he did perfectly,LOL

Nebi

08-08-2009, 09:06 AM

Freddie's true color are out now and I don't like that person.

Marzy

08-08-2009, 09:13 AM

Freddie Marcus and Siavash all talk about gameplans. In fact it was Siavash that said on the hilights last night that there were 3 main players in the house and Marcus said Hira was one.

Becker

08-08-2009, 09:35 AM

Look let's remember that they are ALL on a 'gameplan' of some description because well ... it's a game innit?

Also as far as hated goes ... still second in popularity on this forum at least so wtf :)

Anyways nice try at a let's hate Freddie troll but an epic fail nonetheless ...

Claymores

08-08-2009, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by Becker
Also as far as hated goes ... still second in popularity on this forum at least

But down to 4th in the gambling odds and sinking faster than the Titanic :thumbs:

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/big-brother/win-market

Jordan.

08-08-2009, 09:41 AM

I dont like him hes not the same as he used to be hes to cocky and confident :shocked:

setanta

08-08-2009, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by Becker
Also as far as hated goes ... still second in popularity on this forum at least

But down to 4th in the gambling odds and sinking faster than the Titanic :thumbs:

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/big-brother/win-market

He had it in the bag 2 weeks ago. Mental how much he's blown it.

Marzy

08-08-2009, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by rediscool
Been out of the loop for a while but seriously, what's going on??

Why does everyone hate him?

He was so great!

He has started sticking up for himself towards the other housemates, namely Lisa.

How dare he voice an opinion and laugh in Lisas face the same as she did to him.

My honest opinion is that he is hated far more for his background and his familys wealth.

Claymores

08-08-2009, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Marzy
Originally posted by rediscool
Been out of the loop for a while but seriously, what's going on??

Why does everyone hate him?

He was so great!

He has started sticking up for himself towards the other housemates, namely Lisa.

How dare he voice an opinion and laugh in Lisas face the same as she did to him.

That is some wierd kind of inverse logic you employ.

Surely if Lisa is one on the public's most hated housemates, then attacking her and David should make him more admired rather than the reverse.

Vicky.

08-08-2009, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by Marzy
Originally posted by rediscool
Been out of the loop for a while but seriously, what's going on??

Why does everyone hate him?

He was so great!

He has started sticking up for himself towards the other housemates, namely Lisa.

How dare he voice an opinion and laugh in Lisas face the same as she did to him.

That is some wierd kind of inverse logic you employ.

Surely if Lisa is one on the public's most hated housemates, then attacking her and David should make him more admired rather than the reverse.

Its the fact that david was brought into it I think.

Also the very childish and smug way he went about it.

If he had just appeared a bit more sane, and attacked lisa only...he would have gained more support...i think anyway.

Libra

08-08-2009, 09:53 AM

My opinion is that Freddy was artificially popular and is now finding his true level.

He was liked early on because of the angry mob ganging up on him, it was a sympathetic popularity that he enjoyed. And there's nothing wrong with that in many ways, to feel sorry and root for someone who is getting a harder time than they deserve is natural.

Since than though it has become more and more obvious that he doesn't actually have much to give and is no less bitchy than anyone else.

The problem with Freddy lovers is that they are a bit delusional and tend to blame Bea for Freddy's behaviour.

At least when Siavash made a prat of himself with Noirin he was big enough to admit it.

Bea going isn't the answer, because as much as Freddy's slavish devotion to her makes him look bad, she also enpowers him and gives him confidence.

Without her, his shallowness would show up even more.

But then no doubt, that would be somebody elses fault as well.

28thapril

08-08-2009, 09:53 AM

I don't:thumbs::kiss::flowers:

They just don't want him to get the money coz they say he doesn't need it, well maybe he don't but it's not an excuse at the end of the day it's his parents that are rich NOT him:flowers:

=-Incognito-=

08-08-2009, 09:56 AM

He's still got the biggest positive (well technically negative because it's largely based on sympathy) vote fan-base but, as predicted, his detractors are growing as people get involved in the series and find other favourites to latch onto.

It's our build them up then knock them down culture.

Vicky.

08-08-2009, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by 28thapril
I don't:thumbs::kiss::flowers:

They just don't want him to get the money coz they say he doesn't need it, well maybe he don't but it's not an excuse at the end of the day it's his parents that are rich NOT him:flowers:

People seem unable to understand this.

This goes for the ones kicking off about him being on the dole for 2 whole weeks also. The whole £100 he claimed really got to the haters :laugh:

He paints peoples faces for beer money when he goes out.

Everytime I think of this I picture him as one of those 'toilet attendants' who squirt you with perfume, then try to charge you 2 quid, for some reason.

His parents obviously dont give him anything or he wouldnt need to do this. Plus his parents may not be rich, they have a big estate, but that doesnt mean they have cash.

Visage

08-08-2009, 10:08 AM

I liked Freddie at first, I thought he was different and pretty funny. When Lisa & Kris started picking fights with him, I felt it was more like they were bullying him.

As each week as gone by, his confidence as grown, to a point where I think he comes across to smug, and thought this could lead to his demise.

Bring Bea into the picture, and the knowledge he's very popular on the outside has really changed Freddie. His latest arguments with David & Lisa (which I believe they were Bea's arguments, and he joined in) have been a main factor in my total dislike to him.

Moaning to Lisa that her argument was making him cum was the last straw for me.

Sadly the funny and a little different as to what his character was about has been destroyed (for me) & I know longer enjoy watching him.

|Besides I would like to see the prize money go to someone who would really appreciate it

halfacrown

08-08-2009, 10:25 AM

I'm not convinced that his popularity has dropped in the way some people are describing. Firstly he has remained at the top of the polls over the last couple of weeks, arguments notwithstanding, and he will probably move ahead of everyone on this website's favourite pole at some point today. There is a difference in the perception of people voting for him and some of the active anti-Freddie posters.

The odds have flipped about a lot lately and betting companies like this, as it keeps interest high

'Conor

08-08-2009, 10:30 AM

they hate him because he stood up to lisa... i no it dosnet make any sense

rediscool

10-08-2009, 07:05 AM

I don't understand why people keeping bringing up Freddie's background. At this stage it's completely irrelevant. It really just highlights how resentful and begrudging the British public are.

Also, do you SERIOUSLY think that people are in Big Brother for the prize money? Seriously. They stand to gain much more just featuring on the show than they do with the final prize. Frankly when I'm thinking about who I want to win etc the fact that a certain sum on money goes out to the winner at the end doesn't even cross my mind. To be honest I don't really think that it matters who gets it. I think that most people are in it for the experience, if I were in there I wouldn't care less about the prize money and I'm hardly well-off.

BB22

10-08-2009, 07:12 AM

A significant part of it is the great British tradition of building someone up and then knocking them down and taking delight in seeing them crash and burn. This tendency has been well documented over the years.

Freddie was so popular in the early part of the show, some people have just got bored and were vulnerable to flipping when the Anti-Freddie bandwagon finally started rolling.

noobism

10-08-2009, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by rediscool
Been out of the loop for a while but seriously, what's going on??

Why does everyone hate him?

He was so great!

because he has always been a twat, but more so because everyone has there head up Charlies arse

rediscool

10-08-2009, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by noobism

because he has always been a t***, but more so because everyone has there head up Charlies arse

Do they though?

Marzy

10-08-2009, 07:24 AM

I still love him and so do people on DS, if you look at the favourite housemate poll he is still way ahead and has been every week.

Love Freddie!!! :hug:

camertone

10-08-2009, 07:50 AM

freddie is two faced arrogant weirdo!

Combo

10-08-2009, 07:56 AM

I still like Freddie. He's finally found himself a backbone with Lisa. It makes Lisa shut the **** up when he mentions about surviving 5 evictions on the spot. He's so funny.

He needs to get a back bone with Bea and forget about her. The sooner Bea goes the better Freddie will be. Everyone seems to be calling him a game player because he makes intelligent observations on game players. Other HM's are worried because they know Freddie is right and try to turn the game planning on Freddie, especially Lisa and Charlie. Freddie probably doesn't need to win Big Brother, he has a large career ahead of him anyway.

I still like Freddie and I think he's cool, he knows how to think and he is entertaining. Shame that other housemates are having an effect on what the public think which I think is bull ****. He's finally grown a backbone.

Charlie is a game player, he does something wrong then apologises the day after and acts a little angel so then he won't get nominated. I don't think Halfwit will nominate Charlie because they sorted it all out.

Who's up for eviction should be cool this week. I have a feeling it may actually be Freddie.

rsefitpro2009

10-08-2009, 08:23 AM

Dont rule him out! i think he will win still! maybe im daft saying that!, but i cant see any better option in their at the moment!

ManicWolf

10-08-2009, 08:28 AM

Simple reason: people are fickle.

The whole first few weeks people were calling for Freddie to stand up against Lisa's gang, and now he finally has he's suddenly the devil?!

Of course befriending bitchy Bea certainly didn't help anything.

setanta

10-08-2009, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by ManicWolf
Simple reason: people are fickle.

The whole girst few weeks people were calling for Freddie to stand up against Lisa's gang, and now he finally has he's suddenly the devil?!

Of course befriending bitchy Bea certainly didn't help anything.

But that's the whole problem I have with it.... why finally stand up to her and in such an overt manner? He'd already taken his stand and won over me and basically everyone else with his integrity and ability to maintain compassion and empathy for others.

The moral battle was over and he had one hands down. Lisa was finished.... so why now this madness? It flies in the face of everything he stood for and built for himself in the earlier weeks and he has basically turned into the manipulator and bully of the house because of his perceived power now. He's lost the head completely.

=-Incognito-=

10-08-2009, 08:35 AM

It's the same Freddy we've seen for weeks but now that he's got the confidence to stand up to the remaining people who treated him so poorly the sympathy vote has evaporated and those same sympathy voters are angry at him for embarassing them for a day or two. 'How dare he not be the perfect saintly victim who I can champion to make me look good!' they declared.

They'll be back when Bea goes and it's team dumb vs socially-crushed Freddy again.

ManicWolf

10-08-2009, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by ManicWolf
Simple reason: people are fickle.

The whole girst few weeks people were calling for Freddie to stand up against Lisa's gang, and now he finally has he's suddenly the devil?!

Of course befriending bitchy Bea certainly didn't help anything.

But that's the whole problem I have with it.... why finally stand up to her and in such an overt manner? He'd already taken his stand and won over me and basically everyone else with his integrity and ability to maintain compassion and empathy for others.

The moral battle was over and he had one hands down. Lisa was finished.... so why now this madness? It flies in the face of everything he stood for and built for himself in the earlier weeks and he has basically turned into the manipulator and bully of the house because of his perceived power now. He's lost the head completely.

So you're basically saying that Freddie is being a bad winner, and that is what has soured people? Because frankly I don't see it. Lisa's group may have diminished a little, but she's got David now, along with Charlie, and they're still giving Freddie some stick. Personally I don't think people should have to keep quiet about that, and let it happen, I respect Freddie for standing up for himself.

setanta

10-08-2009, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by ManicWolf
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by ManicWolf
Simple reason: people are fickle.

The whole girst few weeks people were calling for Freddie to stand up against Lisa's gang, and now he finally has he's suddenly the devil?!

Of course befriending bitchy Bea certainly didn't help anything.

But that's the whole problem I have with it.... why finally stand up to her and in such an overt manner? He'd already taken his stand and won over me and basically everyone else with his integrity and ability to maintain compassion and empathy for others.

The moral battle was over and he had one hands down. Lisa was finished.... so why now this madness? It flies in the face of everything he stood for and built for himself in the earlier weeks and he has basically turned into the manipulator and bully of the house because of his perceived power now. He's lost the head completely.

So you're basically saying that Freddie is being a bad winner, and that is what has soured people? Because frankly I don't see it. Lisa's group may have diminished a little, but she's got David now, along with Charlie, and they're still giving Freddie some stick. Personally I don't think people should have to keep quiet about that, and let it happen, I respect Freddie for standing up for himself.

You honestly think that they've been having pops at Freddie all the time? If you compare their behaviour to that of his within the last two weeks there's really no evidence to suggest that they've been the more calculated and scheming.
They have just reacted to the other groups plots and character assassinations.

Hey, I don't like Lisa, but I hate this defence of Freddie and his group now when they are quite obviously doing to David and Lisa exactly what was done to Freddie earlier in the show. The similarity is as plain as day here.

troy4783

10-08-2009, 08:51 AM

i used to like him but now he is so smug and cocky

ManicWolf

10-08-2009, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by ManicWolf
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by ManicWolf
Simple reason: people are fickle.

The whole girst few weeks people were calling for Freddie to stand up against Lisa's gang, and now he finally has he's suddenly the devil?!

Of course befriending bitchy Bea certainly didn't help anything.

But that's the whole problem I have with it.... why finally stand up to her and in such an overt manner? He'd already taken his stand and won over me and basically everyone else with his integrity and ability to maintain compassion and empathy for others.

The moral battle was over and he had one hands down. Lisa was finished.... so why now this madness? It flies in the face of everything he stood for and built for himself in the earlier weeks and he has basically turned into the manipulator and bully of the house because of his perceived power now. He's lost the head completely.

So you're basically saying that Freddie is being a bad winner, and that is what has soured people? Because frankly I don't see it. Lisa's group may have diminished a little, but she's got David now, along with Charlie, and they're still giving Freddie some stick. Personally I don't think people should have to keep quiet about that, and let it happen, I respect Freddie for standing up for himself.

You honestly think that they've been having pops at Freddie all the time? If you compare their behaviour to that of his within the last two weeks there's really no evidence to suggest that they've been the more calculated and scheming.
They have just reacted to the other groups plots and character assassinations.

Hey, I don't like Lisa, but I hate this defence of Freddie and his group now when they are quite obviously doing to David and Lisa exactly what was done to Freddie earlier in the show. The similarity is as plain as day here.

Freddie has only ever really been vocal when arguments have kicked off naturally. It's not like in the early days when Lisa's gang singled out Freddie and instigated arguments with him just to shout him down. Charlie was bang of of order last night.

krug3r

10-08-2009, 08:57 AM

I was rooting for him in the beginning..because he was humble and everyone was beeing mean at him...and I'm sure the public wanted to protect him like people want to protect a hurt puppy.

But now, he lost the "hurt puppy" image he had and I'm starting to dislike him very much. He has a way with him that is really disrespectful, Happened with lisa and Charlie, he puts the fakest laugh and a stupid face on in front of people's face. He is doing now what the people in the beginning were doing to him.

setanta

10-08-2009, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by ManicWolf
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by ManicWolf
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by ManicWolf
Simple reason: people are fickle.

The whole girst few weeks people were calling for Freddie to stand up against Lisa's gang, and now he finally has he's suddenly the devil?!

Of course befriending bitchy Bea certainly didn't help anything.

But that's the whole problem I have with it.... why finally stand up to her and in such an overt manner? He'd already taken his stand and won over me and basically everyone else with his integrity and ability to maintain compassion and empathy for others.

The moral battle was over and he had one hands down. Lisa was finished.... so why now this madness? It flies in the face of everything he stood for and built for himself in the earlier weeks and he has basically turned into the manipulator and bully of the house because of his perceived power now. He's lost the head completely.

So you're basically saying that Freddie is being a bad winner, and that is what has soured people? Because frankly I don't see it. Lisa's group may have diminished a little, but she's got David now, along with Charlie, and they're still giving Freddie some stick. Personally I don't think people should have to keep quiet about that, and let it happen, I respect Freddie for standing up for himself.

You honestly think that they've been having pops at Freddie all the time? If you compare their behaviour to that of his within the last two weeks there's really no evidence to suggest that they've been the more calculated and scheming.
They have just reacted to the other groups plots and character assassinations.

Hey, I don't like Lisa, but I hate this defence of Freddie and his group now when they are quite obviously doing to David and Lisa exactly what was done to Freddie earlier in the show. The similarity is as plain as day here.

Freddie has only ever really been vocal when arguments have kicked off naturally. It's not like in the early days when Lisa's gang singled out Freddie and instigated arguments with him just to shout him down. Charlie was bang of of order last night.

But sure he's doing the very thing that Karly and Kris were condemned for earlier on in the show- flying off the handle and involving himself in others arguments when he believes he has the support of the majority. It echos so much of what has happened before in the show.

ManicWolf

10-08-2009, 09:07 AM

I'd hardly call it exactly the same. Freddie only mouths off in arguments, which is different from purposely approaching someone to start an argument, which is what Kris and Karly and Lisa did in the first few weeks.

setanta

10-08-2009, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by ManicWolf
I'd hardly call it exactly the same. Freddie only mouths off in arguments, which is different from purposely approaching someone to start an argument, which is what Kris and Karly and Lisa did in the first few weeks.

Lisa approached him but usually Karly and Kris just reacted to him.

There's definitely similarities though and a marked change in Freddies character and demeanour over the last 2 weeks. No denying that and it's terrible to see....

He never reacted so crazily earlier on and with such careless abandon and obvious lack of empathy with others. Where's his humilty and integrity gone?

ManicWolf

10-08-2009, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by ManicWolf
I'd hardly call it exactly the same. Freddie only mouths off in arguments, which is different from purposely approaching someone to start an argument, which is what Kris and Karly and Lisa did in the first few weeks.

Lisa approached him but usually Karly and Kris just reacted to him.

There's definitely similarities though and a marked change in Freddies character and demeanour over the last 2 weeks. No denying that and it's terrible to see....

He never reacted so crazily earlier on and with such careless abandon and obvioul lack of empathy with others. Where's his humilty and integrity gone?

While I will agree that he has started to act differently, a little cocky maybe, I really believe that is just a front to keep Lisa off his back. He's almost certainly using the "the public loves me" stuff to try get Lisa to lose a little of that cock sure confidence she's always held over Freddie. And he only uses it in arguments, he doesn't purposely start arguments with it, or use it as a general bragging tool. I'm just baffled by such a drastic public opinion change. I'd expect him to maybe lose a few supporters, but he seems to have lost nearly all of them!

setanta

10-08-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by ManicWolf
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by ManicWolf
I'd hardly call it exactly the same. Freddie only mouths off in arguments, which is different from purposely approaching someone to start an argument, which is what Kris and Karly and Lisa did in the first few weeks.

Lisa approached him but usually Karly and Kris just reacted to him.

There's definitely similarities though and a marked change in Freddies character and demeanour over the last 2 weeks. No denying that and it's terrible to see....

He never reacted so crazily earlier on and with such careless abandon and obvioul lack of empathy with others. Where's his humilty and integrity gone?

While I will agree that he has started to act differently, a little cocky maybe, I really believe that is just a front to keep Lisa off his back. He's almost certainly using the "the public loves me" stuff to try get Lisa to lose a little of that cock sure confidence she's always held over Freddie. And he only uses it in arguments, he doesn't purposely start arguments with it, or use it as a general bragging tool. I'm just baffled by such a drastic public opinion change. I'd expect him to maybe lose a few supporters, but he seems to have lost nearly all of them!

He hasn't helped himself at all in the last 2 weeks. Sure Lisa had disappeared really at this stage... she knew her number was up. Freddie's paranoia and need to win have kept her in this show.

He doesn't only use his cockiness and self assured manner in arguments. Watch him when he talks with others- he truly believes in everything he says.... he's not helped by Bea that's for sure but I honestly think he's exposed a part of himself that we were never privy to earlier on.