Last night- proof in favour of the vote to save

[Tom]

Works so much better. I wanted Hira to stay but she'll be no real loss to the house. If it was a vote to evict we would've lost Bea who is far more entertaining and central within the house

[President]

Yeah, I'd agree. But I think in a 2 person eviction, Vote to Save wouldn't make a difference.

You'd need at least 3 up to make a difference.

But yeah, even though I thought Hira was a sweetheart, her eviction will have no impact on the series.

A Vote to Evict would have meant Lisa or Bea going and that definitely would have affected the series, probably for the worse.

[Brad.]

I agree tom

[Vicky.]

Agree totally.

it should always be vote to save.

And the 3 people with the most noms go up, rather than 2

[28thapril]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Agree totally.

it should always be vote to save.

And the 3 people with the most noms go up, rather than 2

I agree with this 2 up is not enough you need 3 better compertition then:thumbs:

[Beso]

I have always thought it would be better having the public vote for thier favourites from the end of the eviction show all the way through the following week until the following eviction night.


The housemates would then have to chose who they want to be evicted in a live face to face wekkly friday night eviction show, from the two who have the least amount of votes. IE the two less popular with the public.

It makes sense to me but ah don't know if ah've explained it well enough.:love:

[bananarama]

I agree with those saying a vote to save and a minimum of three up would be a better option......Anything that can help negate the effect of hate merchants ruining story lines can only be of benefit....

If BB 11 be the last BB ever I hope they adopt a vote to save and a compulsary minimum of three up for eviction.......Along with no eviction at all for the first two weeks at least so that housemates and viewer alike can get to know housemates better before drawing conclusions......

Hasty conclusions from both public and housemates leads to the early loss of potentialy interesting and entertaining characters

[bananarama]

Originally posted by beso
I have always thought it would be better having the public vote for thier favourites from the end of the eviction show all the way through the following week until the following eviction night.


The housemates would then have to chose who they want to be evicted in a live face to face wekkly friday night eviction show, from the two who have the least amount of votes. IE the two less popular with the public.

It makes sense to me but ah don't know if ah've explained it well enough.:love:


Interesting idea but I personally would only like to see that as a possible twist and not a regular feature......Good valid suggestion none the less.......

[Beso]

thanks bananaramma..nice pic..good laugh her.

Anhother thing that bugs me has to do with nominations and the reasons for them.

Just about every week there have been many housemates using reasons that they themselves have been guilty of as well.

things like dogface saying marcus swears a lot when she has one of the worst mouths in the place...

If I was bb i would just tell nthem straight in the diary room.


Eh hud oan a minute darlin...yer jist the same yersel eh !..try again will ye.:tongue:

[setanta]

I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

[setanta]

Obviously throw it in from time to time. Plus they wont get half as many voters on the lines each week if its just a vote to save.

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta
I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

[setanta]

Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by beso
thanks bananaramma..nice pic..good laugh her.

Anhother thing that bugs me has to do with nominations and the reasons for them.

Just about every week there have been many housemates using reasons that they themselves have been guilty of as well.

things like dogface saying marcus swears a lot when she has one of the worst mouths in the place...

If I was bb i would just tell nthem straight in the diary room.


Eh hud oan a minute darlin...yer jist the same yersel eh !..try again will ye.:tongue:

:laugh: Yeah. There is a lot of double standards when nominating.....However the poor things sometimes do have to select someone perhaps they don'y really dislike all that much and have to clutch at straws to satisfy BB......

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

Would make them more money IMO. 3 people are up, 2 are your faves, you would vote to save both. If it was vote to evict, they would only get one vote to evict the other person.

[mike888]

A vote to save would have an enormous inpact on the whole outcome of a series. Rachel wouldn't have even made it to halfway if it had been positive rather than negative voting last year. The question should be though do you break a Big Brother tradition and have a vote to save throughout the series or leave it as it has been since BB1? What must not happen is BB changing the rules halfway through to suit themselves in order to keep more interesting housemates in and kick the boring non entities out. If it does change to positive voting how far do you take it? Why not make nominations positive too so that housemates choose who they want to stay rather than evict? The 3 people with the most nominations would be immune from eviction and the rest of the house would face the public vote everyweek. That would be taking it to the extreme but it would make eviction nights a damn sight less predictable than what they are at the moment, last night proved that! It breaks completely with tradition but would it work and would the BB fans be for or against it?

[bananarama]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.


I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.


I can't agree with the logic that it would be more boring with a vote to save......On the contrary it would be more difficult for public and bookies to predict.....Creating a better cliffhanger and consequently far more interest.....

[setanta]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

Would make them more money IMO. 3 people are up, 2 are your faves, you would vote to save both. If it was vote to evict, they would only get one vote to evict the other person.

Think about it for a second though.... you have your 1 or 2 favourites and really don't give a toss about the rest. This applies to most people. Are you really going to bother voting to save on friday night if your fav isn't involved? I think there's many people out there who'd just give it a miss that week.

You're cutting voting figures down dramatically, I feel, if you just have it as a vote to save instead of evict all the time.

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

Sorry but i dont know what you mean? surely losing the best housemates will make the programme get stale quicker then big brother tinkering with the voting system?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by setanta


Think about it for a second though.... you have your 1 or 2 favourites and really don't give a toss about the rest. This applies to most people. Are you really going to bother voting to save on friday night if your fav isn't involved? I think there's many people out there who'd just give it a miss that week.

You're cutting voting figures down dramatically, I feel, if you just have it as a vote to save instead of evict all the time.

Hmm well I personally would vote for the most entertainging out of the three to stay if none of my favourites were up. Dont know about other people though...i may just be weird :tongue:

[Z]

A vote to save is the way to go! In the recent history of BB, there have been so many occasions where you think "if only it had been a vote to save", because of the number of love/hate housemates that seem to emerge. You'd need at least 3 people up to make it a bit unpredictable, but that shouldn't be too hard to fix. Big Brother should definitely adopt the vote to save; I think it would give the format a huge shake up and would make them a lot of money and earn more viewers!

[setanta]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta


Think about it for a second though.... you have your 1 or 2 favourites and really don't give a toss about the rest. This applies to most people. Are you really going to bother voting to save on friday night if your fav isn't involved? I think there's many people out there who'd just give it a miss that week.

You're cutting voting figures down dramatically, I feel, if you just have it as a vote to save instead of evict all the time.

Hmm well I personally would vote for the most entertainging out of the three to stay if none of my favourites were up. Dont know about other people though...i may just be weird :tongue:

You're a big brother fanatic like us all. I just don't see the average punter racing to their phones every week if it doesn't involve their favourite. That'll have a huge effect on revenue for the show. Don't think they'll ever abandon the vote to evict.

[Cristina]

Originally posted by Tom
Works so much better. I wanted Hira to stay but she'll be no real loss to the house. If it was a vote to evict we would've lost Bea who is far more entertaining and central within the house

Wrong, its was between Lisa and Hira, Lisa would have gone if it was to evict.

[setanta]

Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.


I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.


I can't agree with the logic that it would be more boring with a vote to save......On the contrary it would be more difficult for public and bookies to predict.....Creating a better cliffhanger and consequently far more interest.....

I think it would be easier for bookies to predict it each week if it was a vote to safe. Like I said, the majority of us are fickle when it concerns are favs, and remember we'll just be voting to save our favs for the most part. The bookies will review the trends and have a better idea of who'll stay or go.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta


Think about it for a second though.... you have your 1 or 2 favourites and really don't give a toss about the rest. This applies to most people. Are you really going to bother voting to save on friday night if your fav isn't involved? I think there's many people out there who'd just give it a miss that week.

You're cutting voting figures down dramatically, I feel, if you just have it as a vote to save instead of evict all the time.

Hmm well I personally would vote for the most entertainging out of the three to stay if none of my favourites were up. Dont know about other people though...i may just be weird :tongue:


No that's not weird. Even if favourite housemates have gone and one is still watching it then it is obvious that one would vote to save remaining housemates giving off entertainment........I think BB should be petitioned to adopt a vote to "save"......

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta


Think about it for a second though.... you have your 1 or 2 favourites and really don't give a toss about the rest. This applies to most people. Are you really going to bother voting to save on friday night if your fav isn't involved? I think there's many people out there who'd just give it a miss that week.

You're cutting voting figures down dramatically, I feel, if you just have it as a vote to save instead of evict all the time.

Hmm well I personally would vote for the most entertainging out of the three to stay if none of my favourites were up. Dont know about other people though...i may just be weird :tongue:

You're a big brother fanatic like us all. I just don't see the average punter racing to their phones every week if it doesn't involve their favourite. That'll have a huge effect on revenue for the show. Don't think they'll ever abandon the vote to evict.

I dont think they will ban the vote to evict i just would rather be watching lisa and marcus rather then hira beinazir. Make for a more entertaining show.

[Vicky.]

Hmm...maybe they could do something where it was vote to evict AND save.

Like 2 seperate lines for each housemate.

That way they could take evict votes away from the save votes, and whoever has the lowest, goes. This way people can chose to vote for their favourite OR who they want to go.

:cheer:

[setanta]

Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that pisses them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.


Don't think so......House mates that P*ss people off are the entertainers......BB wants to keep them. Indeed BB must get very P****d of when vierwer keep on removing housemates that have gone through a long check list of accepting as suitable for the show...

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

Check out my post above yours.


This way people can vote out if people piss them off, but also fans of the person who has done wrong, get a say.

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

So explain to me why the only eviction with a surprise outcome was last nights? Every other week was dull and predictable. The bookies dont have a clue as when its vote to evict a housemate like noirin who has a cult following will have no chance. (not that she had a chance anyway lol)

[setanta]

Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.


Don't think so......House mates that P*ss people off are the entertainers......BB wants to keep them. Indeed BB must get very P****d of when vierwer keep on removing housemates that have gone through a long check list of accepting as suitable for the show...

I know that a good majority of them are entertaining. I'm just saying that you'll get more viewers off their arses to vote if it's to evict- most people watch the show outta morbid curiousity and to ridicule the housemates. They love the expectation of seeing them walking out to a chorus of boos.

Even the two words have a different feel and context you know? I just dont see as many people voting to save. Big Brother are trying to make money at the end of the day.

[setanta]

Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

So explain to me why the only eviction with a surprise outcome was last nights? Every other week was dull and predictable. The bookies dont have a clue as when its vote to evict a housemate like noirin who has a cult following will have no chance. (not that she had a chance anyway lol)

That's probably becuz it was the first one of that nature involving these housemates. Always hard to predict, especially with ten up. But I do feel that patterns would eventually emerge.

Hey, but my main argument is they'll lose votes with it as a vote to save. Don't lynch me girls lol. Just my opinion.

[Tom]

Originally posted by bananarama
I agree with those saying a vote to save and a minimum of three up would be a better option......Anything that can help negate the effect of hate merchants ruining story lines can only be of benefit....

If BB 11 be the last BB ever I hope they adopt a vote to save and a compulsary minimum of three up for eviction.......Along with no eviction at all for the first two weeks at least so that housemates and viewer alike can get to know housemates better before drawing conclusions......

Hasty conclusions from both public and housemates leads to the early loss of potentialy interesting and entertaining characters

They kind of did vote to save in Celeb BB3 when they had a vote to win and took a few vote counts over a number of days to evict people. If CBB returns next year I'd like to see them trial vote to save to see if it actually does work once and for all and then see if its worth doing on BB11.

About voting to evict- yes, people do like to vote to kick them out but equally people like to save their favourites and if their least favourites get saved it only fuels their hate. Hence the success of shows such as X Factor where you vote for your favourite and not who you think is the worst. It makes it a bit more unpredictable at times too.

It is a BB tradition but one that has run its course and one which is now ruining the show. But maybe using the Australian system (vote to save AND evict) would be better than both

[setanta]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

Check out my post above yours.


This way people can vote out if people p**s them off, but also fans of the person who has done wrong, get a say.

Yeah, that could possibly work. Interesting idea. I'm not trying to start an argument here.... just think they'll lose voting figures, that's all.

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

So explain to me why the only eviction with a surprise outcome was last nights? Every other week was dull and predictable. The bookies dont have a clue as when its vote to evict a housemate like noirin who has a cult following will have no chance. (not that she had a chance anyway lol)

That's probably becuz it was the first one of that nature involving these housemates. Always hard to predict, especially with ten up. But I do feel that patterns would eventually emerge.

Hey, but my main argument is they'll lose votes with it as a vote to save. Don't lynch me girls lol. Just my opinion.

Well I've been commenting on how you said it would become dull and boring.

[billybu]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

Check out my post above yours.


This way people can vote out if people p**s them off, but also fans of the person who has done wrong, get a say.

Yeah, that could possibly work. Interesting idea. I'm not trying to start an argument here.... just think they'll lose voting figures, that's all.


i dont think they will tho because its nore interesting when you have to vote to save your favourite because when its a large group like last night if it had have been a vote to evict it would have been just boring and kind of predictable

[mike888]

I really can't agree that having a vote to save would lose BB money. The chances are that if only 2 housemates were up and it was a vote to evict neither of them wouldn't be your favourite, whereas last night one had to be your favourite. If the system changed so that more housemates faced the public vote everyweek one of them would be highly likely to be your favourite therefore it gives people more incentive to vote, not less. Even I broke with tradition and voted last night whereas I wouldn't have done normally if my favourite wasn't involved. With regard to a petition word has it that there is going to be one and positive voting might, and I stress might, be tried out on the next CBB.

[mike888]

I really can't agree that having a vote to save would lose BB money. The chances are that if only 2 housemates were up and it was a vote to evict neither of them wouldn't be your favourite, whereas last night one had to be your favourite. If the system changed so that more housemates faced the public vote everyweek one of them would be highly likely to be your favourite therefore it gives people more incentive to vote, not less. Even I broke with tradition and voted last night whereas I wouldn't have done normally if my favourite wasn't involved. With regard to a petition word has it that there is going to be one and positive voting might, and I stress might, be tried out on the next CBB.

[setanta]

Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

So explain to me why the only eviction with a surprise outcome was last nights? Every other week was dull and predictable. The bookies dont have a clue as when its vote to evict a housemate like noirin who has a cult following will have no chance. (not that she had a chance anyway lol)

That's probably becuz it was the first one of that nature involving these housemates. Always hard to predict, especially with ten up. But I do feel that patterns would eventually emerge.

Hey, but my main argument is they'll lose votes with it as a vote to save. Don't lynch me girls lol. Just my opinion.

Well I've been commenting on how you said it would become dull and boring.

Oh, I just think you wont see any really huge fluctuations in voting trends, like you do with a vote to evict show. You'll have people sticking with their favs and bookies will have more of an idea of where the votes will go.

My dull comment really centred on the all up for eviction process but I also think it would be easier to predict the outcome of many evictions this way.

[Tom]

Originally posted by setanta

Oh, I just think you wont see any really huge fluctuations in voting trends, like you do with a vote to evict show. You'll have people sticking with their favs and bookies will have more of an idea of where the votes will go.

My dull comment really centred on the all up for eviction process but I also think it would be easier to predict the outcome of many evictions this way.

I think the evictions since BB7 have been very predictable mainly due to the bookies and vote to save would make it less predictable. The only flawed thing about a vote to save would be that we could lose characters at the start who aren't so interesting but eventually develop into a huge one. For example in week 1 of BB9 in a vote to save we would have probably lost Luke or Lisa.

[billybu]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
Think about it though.... people pick up the phones more readily when it's to do with something that p****s them off...... like nasty housemates. Big Brother wants those calls, they need those calls. They'll never change that trend.

So explain to me why the only eviction with a surprise outcome was last nights? Every other week was dull and predictable. The bookies dont have a clue as when its vote to evict a housemate like noirin who has a cult following will have no chance. (not that she had a chance anyway lol)

That's probably becuz it was the first one of that nature involving these housemates. Always hard to predict, especially with ten up. But I do feel that patterns would eventually emerge.

Hey, but my main argument is they'll lose votes with it as a vote to save. Don't lynch me girls lol. Just my opinion.

Well I've been commenting on how you said it would become dull and boring.

Oh, I just think you wont see any really huge fluctuations in voting trends, like you do with a vote to evict show. You'll have people sticking with their favs and bookies will have more of an idea of where the votes will go.

My dull comment really centred on the all up for eviction process but I also think it would be easier to predict the outcome of many evictions this way.

All the evictions this year have been boring tho because there all predictable apart from last nights it was the best 1 yet

[setanta]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by bananarama
I agree with those saying a vote to save and a minimum of three up would be a better option......Anything that can help negate the effect of hate merchants ruining story lines can only be of benefit....

If BB 11 be the last BB ever I hope they adopt a vote to save and a compulsary minimum of three up for eviction.......Along with no eviction at all for the first two weeks at least so that housemates and viewer alike can get to know housemates better before drawing conclusions......

Hasty conclusions from both public and housemates leads to the early loss of potentialy interesting and entertaining characters

They kind of did vote to save in Celeb BB3 when they had a vote to win and took a few vote counts over a number of days to evict people. If CBB returns next year I'd like to see them trial vote to save to see if it actually does work once and for all and then see if its worth doing on BB11.

About voting to evict- yes, people do like to vote to kick them out but equally people like to save their favourites and if their least favourites get saved it only fuels their hate. Hence the success of shows such as X Factor where you vote for your favourite and not who you think is the worst. It makes it a bit more unpredictable at times too.

It is a BB tradition but one that has run its course and one which is now ruining the show. But maybe using the Australian system (vote to save AND evict) would be better than both

I understand where you're coming from with regard to X factor but I feel voters do pick up the phones to genuinely vote for their favourites on a given night. It's more of a talent competition rather than well, lets face it, a bit of a freak show.

Most people who vote on Big Brother do so out of anger rather than praise. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I see it. Sure look at the receptions that the majority of Big Brother contestants are exposed to. That gives you some kind of illustration of the type of show we follow.

[AhmedFan2004]

From a TV perspective it was a success. A bore goes and they make tons of money.

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by bananarama
I agree with those saying a vote to save and a minimum of three up would be a better option......Anything that can help negate the effect of hate merchants ruining story lines can only be of benefit....

If BB 11 be the last BB ever I hope they adopt a vote to save and a compulsary minimum of three up for eviction.......Along with no eviction at all for the first two weeks at least so that housemates and viewer alike can get to know housemates better before drawing conclusions......

Hasty conclusions from both public and housemates leads to the early loss of potentialy interesting and entertaining characters

They kind of did vote to save in Celeb BB3 when they had a vote to win and took a few vote counts over a number of days to evict people. If CBB returns next year I'd like to see them trial vote to save to see if it actually does work once and for all and then see if its worth doing on BB11.

About voting to evict- yes, people do like to vote to kick them out but equally people like to save their favourites and if their least favourites get saved it only fuels their hate. Hence the success of shows such as X Factor where you vote for your favourite and not who you think is the worst. It makes it a bit more unpredictable at times too.

It is a BB tradition but one that has run its course and one which is now ruining the show. But maybe using the Australian system (vote to save AND evict) would be better than both

I understand where you're coming from with regard to X factor but I feel voters do pick up the phones to genuinely vote for their favourites on it. It's more of a talent competition rather than well, lets face it, a bit of a freak show.

Most people who vote on Big Brother do so out of anger rather than praise. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I see it. Sure look at the receptions that the majority of Big Brother contestants are exposed to. That gives you some kind of illustration of the type of show we follow.

Almost every Big brother gets dull going into the last week and i just see this added system as a way of keeping the most the show relevant.

[shash]

should always be vote to save imho, too many big and interesting entertainers get lost to the bland ones (and this is not a criticism of Hira) and it would make the whole show a bit more positive. They could just throw in a surprise vote to evict from time to time perhaps, but I prefer this format.

[setanta]

Originally posted by noirin4eva
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by bananarama
I agree with those saying a vote to save and a minimum of three up would be a better option......Anything that can help negate the effect of hate merchants ruining story lines can only be of benefit....

If BB 11 be the last BB ever I hope they adopt a vote to save and a compulsary minimum of three up for eviction.......Along with no eviction at all for the first two weeks at least so that housemates and viewer alike can get to know housemates better before drawing conclusions......

Hasty conclusions from both public and housemates leads to the early loss of potentialy interesting and entertaining characters

They kind of did vote to save in Celeb BB3 when they had a vote to win and took a few vote counts over a number of days to evict people. If CBB returns next year I'd like to see them trial vote to save to see if it actually does work once and for all and then see if its worth doing on BB11.

About voting to evict- yes, people do like to vote to kick them out but equally people like to save their favourites and if their least favourites get saved it only fuels their hate. Hence the success of shows such as X Factor where you vote for your favourite and not who you think is the worst. It makes it a bit more unpredictable at times too.

It is a BB tradition but one that has run its course and one which is now ruining the show. But maybe using the Australian system (vote to save AND evict) would be better than both

I understand where you're coming from with regard to X factor but I feel voters do pick up the phones to genuinely vote for their favourites on it. It's more of a talent competition rather than well, lets face it, a bit of a freak show.

Most people who vote on Big Brother do so out of anger rather than praise. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I see it. Sure look at the receptions that the majority of Big Brother contestants are exposed to. That gives you some kind of illustration of the type of show we follow.

Almost every Big brother gets dull going into the last week and i just see this added system as a way of keeping the most the show relevant.

I agree. It's always good to mix it up from time to time. Just wouldn't agree with changing it completely to a vote to save format.

[AhmedFan2004]

They must have made a bomb, Vote to Save with 10 HMs, crikey.

[shash]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
They must have made a bomb, Vote to Save with 10 HMs, crikey.

if they did make significantly more money then I think there is a high chance of them adopting this ... :wink:

[BB22]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
They must have made a bomb, Vote to Save with 10 HMs, crikey.

Indeed. They must have coined it in last night.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by BB22

Indeed. They must have coined it in last night.
They've killed me so far, 100 votes to evict Halfwit vs Sree, 50 votes to get Noirin out against Marcus, 75 votes for Lisa and 10 for Hira last night.

[RCW1945]

"But I think in a 2 person eviction, Vote to Save wouldn't make a difference."
Perceptive, President, very perceptive.

[BB22]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by BB22

Indeed. They must have coined it in last night.
They've killed me so far, 100 votes to evict Halfwit vs Sree, 50 votes to get Noirin out against Marcus, 75 votes for Lisa and 10 for Hira last night.

Wowzers!

[RCW1945]

£82.25, congratulations, keep going, you'll get it right eventually.

[Nemo123]

Siavash should have been chucked out.

[billybu]

i think marcus should have been because he has done so much and hasn't properly been punished

[Shasown]

If people feel they are paying over the odds for the entertainment they receive, or they feel they are not getting value for money they will stop voting, so vote to save regularly would be counter productive. they should use vote to save every now and again just to keep both the viewers and the housemates on their toes. The random factor last night of Hira getting evicted certainly shook up the housemates.

Last weeks eviction vote was a real money spinner for BB as all housemates were up and while a lot of people had favourites, they also have people who they actively dislike and just want to see that person evicted consequently I am sure a lot of people voted tactically, (everyone but the one they hate, oh and another one for their favourite just to make sure).

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by BB22

Indeed. They must have coined it in last night.
They've killed me so far, 100 votes to evict Halfwit vs Sree, 50 votes to get Noirin out against Marcus, 75 votes for Lisa and 10 for Hira last night.

I think you take BB way too seriously.

Unless you also have bets on that you stand to make a lot from.

35 quid to save sree...and he left anyway, mustve been painful...

[delta]

Originally posted by Tom
Works so much better. I wanted Hira to stay but she'll be no real loss to the house. If it was a vote to evict we would've lost Bea who is far more entertaining and central within the house

Who is to say that Hira or anyone else is not going to step up to the plate and fill the gap when a house mate leaves.

So are we saying that Hira would have been evicted if she would have been up against Marcus or Bea.


I say leave it as it is and see what happens- Marcus or Bea should have been booted last night.


Marcus goes = Power vacuum

Bea goes = Lisa v Freddie ratches up a notch.

[Angus]

Originally posted by Tom
Works so much better. I wanted Hira to stay but she'll be no real loss to the house. If it was a vote to evict we would've lost Bea who is far more entertaining and central within the house

Agree that Vote to Save is much fairer for the public - the fans that don't like it are usually the ones who support the nastier HMs. I'm sorry Hira went, but to be honest she won't be missed.