Housemate IQs ... Strategy potential

[InOne]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Hre are the reported IQ scores of original housemates. Given that strategy (for which read 'game planning') requires intelligence, who do we think is planning their game? (Remember the IQ test was not under controlled condiions and some HMs are not operating in native language).

128 Sophia
125 Freddie
122 Marcus
94 Angel
99 Siavash
97 Charlie
92 Kris
92 Cairon
80 Noirin
89 Rodrigo
79 Karly
74 Sree
69 Saffia
60 Sophie
55 Lisa

It seems to me Freddie and Marcus are well capable of game planning (evident from watching their performances), whilst Lisa is less capable. She reacts to circumstances as they unfold before her. There is no plan.


What about the new lot? Where you get these from?

[BB_Eye]

Lots of double figures in that house.

Still better than last year where 1st evictee Stephanie was the only person to pass the 120+ mark.

[TurtleSoup]

Isn't the average IQ 100?
Lisa's pretty retarded.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by InOne

What about the new lot? Where you get these from?

BBLB 11 June 2009. Don't think we have been old the new ones.

[Prole]

I keep seeing these "IQ results". When they first talked about them on BBLB it was made clear they were for fun and not done under clinical conditions. Gawd knows which test they were given and the circumstances under which they were taken. Like all IQ tests, I don't think you should read too deeply into them.

[BB_Eye]

Originally posted by TurtleSoup
Isn't the average IQ 100?
Lisa's pretty retarded.

Almost there anyway. I remember Shabnam's IQ being something like 49 which is technically borderline retarded. :joker:

[BB_Eye]

Originally posted by Prole
I keep seeing these "IQ results". When they first talked about them on BBLB it was made clear they were for fun and not done under clinical conditions. Gawd knows which test they were given and the circumstances under which they were taken. Like all IQ tests, I don't think you should read too deeply into them.

This is true. Personally, I wish they would give the housemates EQ tests before they go in.

I have a pretty good feeling Noirin and Marcus would have done terribly.

[aiv]

Profound mental retardation Below 20
Severe mental retardation 20–34
Moderate mental retardation 35–49
Mild mental retardation 50–69
Borderline intellectual functioning 70–79


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation#IQ_below_70

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by TurtleSoup
Isn't the average IQ 100?
Lisa's pretty retarded.

Yes 100 is he norm (average). IQ test measures are not precise and usually quote +/- 3% so Siavash and Charlie would both be termed average. One is a non-native speaker, the other had special educational needs at school which were not delivered so both would probably be upwardly corrected.

Freddie also had special educational needs, but these were delivered so he has probably been coached in IQ tests.

The term retarded is unacceptable in my view, but yes, it would appear that she has lower intelligence. (as measured by IQ tests)

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by Prole
I keep seeing these "IQ results". When they first talked about them on BBLB it was made clear they were for fun and not done under clinical conditions. Gawd knows which test they were given and the circumstances under which they were taken. Like all IQ tests, I don't think you should read too deeply into them.
(NOTE: These reservations were made clear in the original post.)

[Nebi]

Real IQ tests takes hours to make, I doubt those numbers are close to the real thing.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by Nebi
Real IQ tests takes hours to make, I doubt those numbers are close to the real thing.

Insofar as there is a real thing

The issue is, Freddie and Marcus are the gameplanners, NOT Lisa!

[Prole]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Prole
I keep seeing these "IQ results". When they first talked about them on BBLB it was made clear they were for fun and not done under clinical conditions. Gawd knows which test they were given and the circumstances under which they were taken. Like all IQ tests, I don't think you should read too deeply into them.
(NOTE: These reservations were made clear in the original post.)

So why are you all taking the result so seriously?

[DiamondDogTags]

Anybody got the new HM's IQs?

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by Prole
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by Prole
I keep seeing these "IQ results". When they first talked about them on BBLB it was made clear they were for fun and not done under clinical conditions. Gawd knows which test they were given and the circumstances under which they were taken. Like all IQ tests, I don't think you should read too deeply into them.
(NOTE: These reservations were made clear in the original post.)

So why are you all taking the result so seriously?

One takes the available evidence and looks for consistency. There is a lot of game-planning going on (as when Marcus and Freddie talk about having their "BB Brain on" and others NOT having their "BB Brain" on). Having one's "BB Brain on" can only be synonymus with employing strategy. Hence they condemn themselves out of their own mouths.

At the same time they tell Sophie that she doesn't have her "BB Brain on", but somewhat in contradiction accuse her of planning her game! This might seen to contradict the view that they are intelligent, but of course it is part of their strategy to belittle their 'opponents'. Many of the HMs are there simply for the experience and any winnings would be a vey pleasant sideline, but not the main objective for being there.

[HuxleyPig]

128 Sophia
125 Freddie
122 Marcus
94 Angel
99 Siavash
97 Charlie
92 Kris
92 Cairon
80 Noirin
89 Rodrigo
79 Karly
74 Sree
69 Saffia
60 Sophie
55 Lisa

Ironic, given the discussion, but how is 89 less than 80? =P

[Beastie]

Originally posted by BB_Eye
Lots of double figures in that house.

Still better than last year where 1st evictee Stephanie was the only person to pass the 120+ mark.

so steph had the highest iq.. and was evicted 1st last year..

and this year sophia first to be evicted and she had the highest iq!!

lol!!

if you are really intelligent you dont stand a chance lasting long!! JOKE lol

nah.. just because you have a large iq.. doesnt mean you are the biggest game player!

[Beastie]

i wonder what hiras, beas, kenneths, toms and davids IQ is?

[bansheewails]

My eleven year old has a higher IQ than them all, and he seems moe savvy!

[Nebi]

*

Over 140 - Genius or near genius
*

120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence
*

110 - 119 - Superior intelligence
*

90 - 109 - Normal or average intelligence
*

80 - 89 - Dullness
*

70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency
*

Under 70 - Definite feeble-mindedness



As you can see, the numbers listed as what the HM's have is just BS.

[AhmedFan2004]

Hahaha, Lisa's IQ is the lowest, but she's the best tactician in there. Hahaha. :thumbs:

[Beastie]

sophia had the highest IQ and was evicted first.. lmao!! and sophia definately didnt think before she reacted!! she has no game plan at all!!

and maybe the iq test was a short one? who knows!! it doesnt mean at all that if you have the highest IQ you have the biggest gameplan and if you have the lowest IQ you have the least game plan.. thats a load of BS!! lol

[Beastie]

i think i would score between 90-109!

[AhmedFan2004]

I think the IQ test they took was quite an academic one.

Lisa isn't educated, so sucked at it, but is the best gameplanner and schemer in there.

Freddie is a poor schemer, but does try to, and has a high IQ, academically anyway.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Nebi
*

Over 140 - Genius or near genius
*

120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence
*

110 - 119 - Superior intelligence
*

90 - 109 - Normal or average intelligence
*

80 - 89 - Dullness
*

70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency
*

Under 70 - Definite feeble-mindedness



As you can see, the numbers listed as what the HM's have is just BS.

I never thought of myself as having very superior intelligence before! :laugh:

Woo! Go me! :thumbs2:

[*mazedsalv**]

Im an average. I can be VERY dumb at some things, but for others i am really clued up and intelligent.

When i take internet IQ tests, i always come between 97-103, so smack down in the middle of average intelligence.

[bronaaaa]

Ohh I'm superior intelligence

[RCW1945]

The_Long_Run
My interpretation of "BB brain on " is somewhat different to yours.
I think it is based on the fact that in the house, due to the strange, alien circumstances and the control exercised by BB HMs must get used to thinking differently. They must forget what life outside was like.
I don't think it is necessarily connected to "game plans" although they could be a small part of the BB thinking mode.

[Indierock&roll]

the results do seem like they are right going along how people have been in the house

[IsleOfWeather]

According to the Daily Mail

David 88
Bea 101
Kenneth the twat 82
Tom 79
Hira 132

[Braden]

Shabnam was pretty mental

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
According to the Daily Mail

David 88
Bea 101
Kenneth the t*** 82
Tom 79
Hira 132

Thats really random, you would think that Kenneth would be at around 120+, Hira i think thats too high for not knowing what a keyhole is, and thats too low for Tom. I heard that Bea, Kenneth and Tom were all over 105.
The only believable one there is David, and maybe Bea.

[Moses1]

Total nonsense IQ test. Look at Charlie's score. Fact of life, he is not in the 'average' bracket, and if he is, we have become thicker as a nation.

[Moses1]

HIRA 132????? That is clear nonsense!!!! Proves it is rubbish. She shows signs of retardation the way she acts. 132 is almost enough for Mensa!!

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally posted by Moses1
HIRA 132????? That is clear nonsense!!!! Proves it is rubbish. She shows signs of retardation the way she acts. 132 is almost enough for Mensa!!

I know, nice girl, but there are many moments that proved that she should be below the average mark.

[luminoussun]

I been calling lisa a ****** for weeks but no one believed me:laugh3:
She went to special school :laugh2:

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by luminoussun
I been calling lisa a ****** for weeks but no one believed me:laugh3:
She went to special school :laugh2:

Calling someone 'a ******' is unacceptable. WHEN are moderators going to get a grip of this sort of language?

[Kazanne]

Originally posted by luminoussun
I been calling lisa a ****** for weeks but no one believed me:laugh3:
She went to special school :laugh2:

I don't like Lisa at all but that remark is NOT funny:mad:

[Shasown]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Hahaha, Lisa's IQ is the lowest, but she's the best tactician in there. Hahaha. :thumbs:

Hardly the best tactician as she has failed in her objective totally. Oh unless of course to get rid of her friends and make freddie popular was her objective, in that case yes masterly tactics.

[golden]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by TurtleSoup
Isn't the average IQ 100?
Lisa's pretty retarded.

Yes 100 is he norm (average). IQ test measures are not precise and usually quote +/- 3% so Siavash and Charlie would both be termed average. One is a non-native speaker, the other had special educational needs at school which were not delivered so both would probably be upwardly corrected.

Freddie also had special educational needs, but these were delivered so he has probably been coached in IQ tests.

The term retarded is unacceptable in my view, but yes, it would appear that she has lower intelligence. (as measured by IQ tests)

Well said Long_Run...I hate the use of the term 'retarded' when describing people who maybe slower learners than average.

[RCW1945]

To repeat myself:
I think it is a very dubious practice of the producers to year after year choose people of lower and lower intelligence.
I'm sure that, on average, the HMs in BB1 were more intelligent.
I suppose that as it becomes more apparent what the show consists of fewer intelligent folks will apply.
While those of low intelligence might be more malleable and entertaining I do wonder what the long term effect is.

[Nebi]

Originally posted by RCW1945
To repeat myself:
I think it is a very dubious practice of the producers to year after year choose people of lower and lower intelligence.
I'm sure that, on average, the HMs in BB1 were more intelligent.
I suppose that as it becomes more apparent what the show consists of fewer intelligent folks will apply.
While those of low intelligence might be more malleable and entertaining I do wonder what the long term effect is.

Normally a show like BB would reflect some persona into today's society but with those ******* I sure hope that its not a average because the world is doom doom doom.

Here's the doom doom song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcn_TPu4qQ