GO CHARLIE!!!!!!

[prkp12]

Standing up to freddie, freddie is the bigggest asshole ever!
i agree with charlie
what about you?

[serensilver]

i no go charlie! he has finally spoke his mind! :cheer2:

[Brad.]

freddie isnt an arsehole, i dont know whos side i was on there.

[LaLaLand]

I haven't liked Charlie until THIS. He was spot on to be fair, Freddie's awful

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Charlie is fake? Um......... I know whos side im taking

[Adamw92]

I dont like Charlie but i'm glad someone had a go at Halfwit

[prkp12]

yea but freddie always brings up evictions and how he is so POPULAR

[noobism]

charley is the 2 face arsehole fact

[shash]

Charlie has gone beserk and is making a right fool of himself, rushing into rash judgements. Is he on X2 speed while everyone else is on normal speed? He could be a great horseracing commentator :wink:

[tracy101]

freddie isnt an arsehole , freddie wasnt slaggin off sophie , charlie jus wanted to be centre of attention again x

[Kazanne]

Funny that that tirade of Charlies lost my support,he wasn't listening,he was ranting,because he thinks lisa is popular again.I watched it all last night,Charlie was out of order.

[deeko1973]

I don't know who's to blame in this particular argument... but Charlie didn't even let Freddie speak and explain himself.... just shouted over him before he could finish his sentence... just like his loverboy Rodrigo....

[Jamie.....]

Freddies so stuck up now just because hes survived so many evictions

[andynsteve]

well done to charlie for telling freddie like it is...freddie is the biggest game player in the house along with Bea...bout time someone told him..

freddie is way too cocky!

[cheapbbfan]

Go Charlie indeed!

[oopaloompa]

Originally posted by deeko1973
I don't know who's to blame in this particular argument... but Charlie didn't even let Freddie speak and explain himself.... just shouted over him before he could finish his sentence... just like his loverboy Rodrigo....


Seems to be copying Lisa as well. Refusing to listen to what is said, then just shouting as loud as possible.

[Captain.Remy]

Finally someone who made Freddie shut up once for all. Charlie owned him.

[letmein]

Freddie's whole peace, love, and harmony, crap was just an act. He's a horrid person. Get him out!

[tomsatwat]

i agree all u hear out of halfwits marcus sivash n bea is gameplan charlie saw right threw it all go charlie bout time somone saw the truth

[BB22]

I thought Freddie was about as reasonable as a person could possibly be when faced with a seemingly endless rant full of accusations. I thought Charlie behaved foolishly.

[Combo]

Originally posted by ImDrunkerThenMoses
Charlie is fake? Um......... I know whos side im taking

I totally agree. He has arguments then apologises the day after so then housemates totally forget about him and don't put him up for nomination, clever I think.

He probably apologised to Freddy.

[hennessy]

Charlie has given us the public image of a cheeky chappy who doesn't know when he's being naughty, well that is ruined by that little stunt.
I can't believe a word he says now.
He's mean to Rodders, he stole with Kris and played pranks on HW and that we forgiven him for. Now he showed he's a bald face liar and verbally aggressive.
No respect for the guy

[BB22]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Charlie has given us the public image of a cheeky chappy who doesn't know when he's being naughty, well that is ruined by that little stunt.
I can't believe a word he says now.
He's mean to Rodders, he stole with Kris and played pranks on HW and that we forgiven him for. Now he showed he's a bald face liar and verbally aggressive.
No respect for the guy

I agree. I just hope more people will have seen through him after this latest bizarre rant.

[setanta]

I'm not a Charlie fan: I believe he's one of the biggest gameplayers in there and yet I couldn't help but love watching him try to expose Freddie for the schemer and manipulator that he is.

Ok, Charlie may have come out with some crap statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

There was a level of truth in what Charlie said and Freddie didn't like it- didn't you notice the rage in his face? And I had to laugh when Freddie compared "intelligent" discussion and scheming.... how snobby and arrogant can you get? They had basically put David up for eviction with their scheming earlier on in the show... elitist muppets.

[BB22]

Originally posted by setantaOk, Charlie may have come out with some cr*p statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

Actually, don't think that is quite right. Freddie has certainly become obsessed with scheming and gameplans. But the thing is it is other people's supposed scheming that he talks about all the time. He has certainly become overly paranoid but it is hard to substantiate the charge that he himself is scheming.

[setanta]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setantaOk, Charlie may have come out with some cr*p statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

Actually, don't think that is quite right. Freddie has certainly become obsessed with scheming and gameplans. But the thing is it is other people's supposed scheming that he talks about all the time. He has certainly become overly paranoid but it is hard to substantiate the charge that he himself is scheming.

You can see it that way if you like but I see a guy who's fascinated with the game and loves to highlight other peoples supposed tactics in front of anyone who will listen, in the obvious hope that it will sway their judgements. Just because he does it with a smile and articulate discourse doesn't mean that there's any less of a sinister motivation behind it.

It's all he does in that house and I don't for one moment believe that theres no intent in this approach. He realises what he's doing; nodding in agreement with Bea when they crazily attacked David's character..... it's one rule for him and another for the rest? Rubbish, he's one of the worst in there for scheming.

[BB22]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setantaOk, Charlie may have come out with some cr*p statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

Actually, don't think that is quite right. Freddie has certainly become obsessed with scheming and gameplans. But the thing is it is other people's supposed scheming that he talks about all the time. He has certainly become overly paranoid but it is hard to substantiate the charge that he himself is scheming.

You can see it that way if you like but I see a guy who's fascinated with the game and loves to highlight other peoples supposed tactics in front of anyone who will listen, in the obvious hope that it will sway their judgements. Just because he does it with a smile and articulate discourse doesn't mean that there's any less of a sinister motivation behind it.

It's all he does in that house and I don't for one moment believe that theres no intent in this approach. He realises what he's doing; nodding in agreement with Bea when they crazily attacked David's character..... it's one rule for him and another for the rest? Rubbish, he's one of the worst in there for scheming.

Then we obviously see it differently. :whistle:

I actually think Freddie's paranoia about schemes and plots is fairly easy to understand given the events of the first few weeks. Of course, he has gone too far with his obsession now but there you go. It is not unintelligible.

[setanta]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setantaOk, Charlie may have come out with some cr*p statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

Actually, don't think that is quite right. Freddie has certainly become obsessed with scheming and gameplans. But the thing is it is other people's supposed scheming that he talks about all the time. He has certainly become overly paranoid but it is hard to substantiate the charge that he himself is scheming.

You can see it that way if you like but I see a guy who's fascinated with the game and loves to highlight other peoples supposed tactics in front of anyone who will listen, in the obvious hope that it will sway their judgements. Just because he does it with a smile and articulate discourse doesn't mean that there's any less of a sinister motivation behind it.

It's all he does in that house and I don't for one moment believe that theres no intent in this approach. He realises what he's doing; nodding in agreement with Bea when they crazily attacked David's character..... it's one rule for him and another for the rest? Rubbish, he's one of the worst in there for scheming.

Then we obviously see it differently. :whistle:

I actually think Freddie's paranoia about schemes and plots is fairly easy to understand given the events of the first few weeks. Of course, he has gone too far with his obsession now but there you go. It is not unintelligible.

Of course it's not unintelligible - that's why he's so deluded in his views. At this stage he actually believes every theory has a solid foundation in truth and is basically gospel. I can't tolerate that kinda cockiness.

Just notice how much he smiles when he's denouncing others behaviour..... it's stealth bombing baby. He disarms them with his smiles and assured, delicate speech while he sews his seeds of discontent and paranoia. It's classic stuff.

[BB22]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setantaOk, Charlie may have come out with some cr*p statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

Actually, don't think that is quite right. Freddie has certainly become obsessed with scheming and gameplans. But the thing is it is other people's supposed scheming that he talks about all the time. He has certainly become overly paranoid but it is hard to substantiate the charge that he himself is scheming.

You can see it that way if you like but I see a guy who's fascinated with the game and loves to highlight other peoples supposed tactics in front of anyone who will listen, in the obvious hope that it will sway their judgements. Just because he does it with a smile and articulate discourse doesn't mean that there's any less of a sinister motivation behind it.

It's all he does in that house and I don't for one moment believe that theres no intent in this approach. He realises what he's doing; nodding in agreement with Bea when they crazily attacked David's character..... it's one rule for him and another for the rest? Rubbish, he's one of the worst in there for scheming.

Then we obviously see it differently. :whistle:

I actually think Freddie's paranoia about schemes and plots is fairly easy to understand given the events of the first few weeks. Of course, he has gone too far with his obsession now but there you go. It is not unintelligible.

Of course it's not unintelligible - that's why he's so deluded in his views. At this stage he actually believes every theory has a solid foundation in truth and is basically gospel. I can't tolerate that kinda cockiness.

Ummm.... well obviously he would be more deluded if it was unintelligible, that was kind of the point I was making.

Earlier on there was a lot of scheming and plotting, as has been extensively documented and discussed on this forum. I am just pointing out that his paranoia is intelligible in light of earlier events. It is simply that he has carried it too far and it has become a kind of obsession with him. But it is not as if it has come out of nowhere.

[setanta]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setantaOk, Charlie may have come out with some cr*p statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

Actually, don't think that is quite right. Freddie has certainly become obsessed with scheming and gameplans. But the thing is it is other people's supposed scheming that he talks about all the time. He has certainly become overly paranoid but it is hard to substantiate the charge that he himself is scheming.

You can see it that way if you like but I see a guy who's fascinated with the game and loves to highlight other peoples supposed tactics in front of anyone who will listen, in the obvious hope that it will sway their judgements. Just because he does it with a smile and articulate discourse doesn't mean that there's any less of a sinister motivation behind it.

It's all he does in that house and I don't for one moment believe that theres no intent in this approach. He realises what he's doing; nodding in agreement with Bea when they crazily attacked David's character..... it's one rule for him and another for the rest? Rubbish, he's one of the worst in there for scheming.

Then we obviously see it differently. :whistle:

I actually think Freddie's paranoia about schemes and plots is fairly easy to understand given the events of the first few weeks. Of course, he has gone too far with his obsession now but there you go. It is not unintelligible.

Of course it's not unintelligible - that's why he's so deluded in his views. At this stage he actually believes every theory has a solid foundation in truth and is basically gospel. I can't tolerate that kinda cockiness.

Ummm.... well obviously he would be more deluded if it was unintelligible, that was kind of the point I was making.

Earlier on there was a lot of scheming and plotting, as has been extensively documented and discussed on this forum. I am just pointing out that his paranoia is intelligible in light of earlier events. It is simply that he has carried it too far and it has become a kind of obsession with him. But it is not as if it has come out of nowhere.

He's even more deluded because he actually believes everything he says at this point and he articulates to any housemate who'll listen and, of course, with us in the diary room. Really, how often does he come in to diary room now? Give it a rest Freddie.

It has come from nowhere.... his misgivings now are completely unfounded usually, the whole David scenario being a typical example of his flights of fancy.

But that's not what I'm taking issue with here- I have an issue with anyone who abandons what I had initially thought they had stood for and goes on the all out offensive. Lisa was dead in the water and yet he decides to continue with his speculations and analysis of her.

Everything he's done in last two weeks flies in the face of what I believed his true character to be, and you can't but the blame on Lisa at this stage. I believe the influx of new housemates has put him on the offensive..... he thought he had the game won and now David has thrown a spanner in the works.

[troy4783]

well done charlie someone had to stand up to him

[Prole]

Originally posted by serensilver
i no go charlie! he has finally spoke his mind! :cheer2:

Jeez... that wouldn't take long.

[Tulip]

Originally posted by Prole
Originally posted by serensilver
i no go charlie! he has finally spoke his mind! :cheer2:

Jeez... that wouldn't take long.

Hear hear! And regarding the title of this post - I sincerely hope Charlie DOES go - and well before the end - a forlorn hope, I suspect!

[BB22]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setantaOk, Charlie may have come out with some cr*p statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

Actually, don't think that is quite right. Freddie has certainly become obsessed with scheming and gameplans. But the thing is it is other people's supposed scheming that he talks about all the time. He has certainly become overly paranoid but it is hard to substantiate the charge that he himself is scheming.

You can see it that way if you like but I see a guy who's fascinated with the game and loves to highlight other peoples supposed tactics in front of anyone who will listen, in the obvious hope that it will sway their judgements. Just because he does it with a smile and articulate discourse doesn't mean that there's any less of a sinister motivation behind it.

It's all he does in that house and I don't for one moment believe that theres no intent in this approach. He realises what he's doing; nodding in agreement with Bea when they crazily attacked David's character..... it's one rule for him and another for the rest? Rubbish, he's one of the worst in there for scheming.

Then we obviously see it differently. :whistle:

I actually think Freddie's paranoia about schemes and plots is fairly easy to understand given the events of the first few weeks. Of course, he has gone too far with his obsession now but there you go. It is not unintelligible.

Of course it's not unintelligible - that's why he's so deluded in his views. At this stage he actually believes every theory has a solid foundation in truth and is basically gospel. I can't tolerate that kinda cockiness.

Ummm.... well obviously he would be more deluded if it was unintelligible, that was kind of the point I was making.

Earlier on there was a lot of scheming and plotting, as has been extensively documented and discussed on this forum. I am just pointing out that his paranoia is intelligible in light of earlier events. It is simply that he has carried it too far and it has become a kind of obsession with him. But it is not as if it has come out of nowhere.

He's even more deluded because he actually believes everything he says at this point and he articulates to any housemate who'll listen and, of course, with us in the diary room. Really, how often does he come in to diary room now? Give it a rest Freddie.

It has come from nowhere.... his misgivings now are completely unfounded usually, the whole David scenario being a typical example of his flights of fancy.

More deluded than what? More deluded than earlier? Of course he is because his earlier intuitions about what was going on were pretty much spot on, as is a matter of record.

But it certainly hasn't come from nowhere. It may be pretty much unfounded now, but that is a different point, of course. We do not even disagree on that.

[setanta]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setantaOk, Charlie may have come out with some cr*p statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

Actually, don't think that is quite right. Freddie has certainly become obsessed with scheming and gameplans. But the thing is it is other people's supposed scheming that he talks about all the time. He has certainly become overly paranoid but it is hard to substantiate the charge that he himself is scheming.

You can see it that way if you like but I see a guy who's fascinated with the game and loves to highlight other peoples supposed tactics in front of anyone who will listen, in the obvious hope that it will sway their judgements. Just because he does it with a smile and articulate discourse doesn't mean that there's any less of a sinister motivation behind it.

It's all he does in that house and I don't for one moment believe that theres no intent in this approach. He realises what he's doing; nodding in agreement with Bea when they crazily attacked David's character..... it's one rule for him and another for the rest? Rubbish, he's one of the worst in there for scheming.

Then we obviously see it differently. :whistle:

I actually think Freddie's paranoia about schemes and plots is fairly easy to understand given the events of the first few weeks. Of course, he has gone too far with his obsession now but there you go. It is not unintelligible.

Of course it's not unintelligible - that's why he's so deluded in his views. At this stage he actually believes every theory has a solid foundation in truth and is basically gospel. I can't tolerate that kinda cockiness.

Ummm.... well obviously he would be more deluded if it was unintelligible, that was kind of the point I was making.

Earlier on there was a lot of scheming and plotting, as has been extensively documented and discussed on this forum. I am just pointing out that his paranoia is intelligible in light of earlier events. It is simply that he has carried it too far and it has become a kind of obsession with him. But it is not as if it has come out of nowhere.

He's even more deluded because he actually believes everything he says at this point and he articulates to any housemate who'll listen and, of course, with us in the diary room. Really, how often does he come in to diary room now? Give it a rest Freddie.

It has come from nowhere.... his misgivings now are completely unfounded usually, the whole David scenario being a typical example of his flights of fancy.

More deluded than what? More deluded than earlier? Of course he is because his earlier intuitions about what was going on were pretty much spot on, as is a matter of record.

But it certainly hasn't come from nowhere. It may be pretty much unfounded now, but that is a different point, of course. We do not even disagree on that.

That is the point..... he's lost the plot completely and his true nature is emerging- he has a superiority complex and highly competitive streak. I loved Freddie 2 weeks ago but he's let me down so badly with this madness.

The whole situation with Lisa was long over and these latest outbursts are a symptom of his need to win. His delusions are of his own making.... nobody else to blame for them at this stage. Granted Bea has acted as a lynchpin in this whole situation for him but he's a big boy now, and has his own mind on matters.

[Patricia4]

I was hoping you wanted him to go home because I do he's a nasty two faced creep.

[BB22]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by setantaOk, Charlie may have come out with some cr*p statements regarding Lisa's innocence but the truth is, Freddie and his group discuss tactics on a far more regular basis...... it's all they do for f£cks sake; I'd lose the head with them too eventually if I was in there.

Actually, don't think that is quite right. Freddie has certainly become obsessed with scheming and gameplans. But the thing is it is other people's supposed scheming that he talks about all the time. He has certainly become overly paranoid but it is hard to substantiate the charge that he himself is scheming.

You can see it that way if you like but I see a guy who's fascinated with the game and loves to highlight other peoples supposed tactics in front of anyone who will listen, in the obvious hope that it will sway their judgements. Just because he does it with a smile and articulate discourse doesn't mean that there's any less of a sinister motivation behind it.

It's all he does in that house and I don't for one moment believe that theres no intent in this approach. He realises what he's doing; nodding in agreement with Bea when they crazily attacked David's character..... it's one rule for him and another for the rest? Rubbish, he's one of the worst in there for scheming.

Then we obviously see it differently. :whistle:

I actually think Freddie's paranoia about schemes and plots is fairly easy to understand given the events of the first few weeks. Of course, he has gone too far with his obsession now but there you go. It is not unintelligible.

Of course it's not unintelligible - that's why he's so deluded in his views. At this stage he actually believes every theory has a solid foundation in truth and is basically gospel. I can't tolerate that kinda cockiness.

Ummm.... well obviously he would be more deluded if it was unintelligible, that was kind of the point I was making.

Earlier on there was a lot of scheming and plotting, as has been extensively documented and discussed on this forum. I am just pointing out that his paranoia is intelligible in light of earlier events. It is simply that he has carried it too far and it has become a kind of obsession with him. But it is not as if it has come out of nowhere.

He's even more deluded because he actually believes everything he says at this point and he articulates to any housemate who'll listen and, of course, with us in the diary room. Really, how often does he come in to diary room now? Give it a rest Freddie.

It has come from nowhere.... his misgivings now are completely unfounded usually, the whole David scenario being a typical example of his flights of fancy.

More deluded than what? More deluded than earlier? Of course he is because his earlier intuitions about what was going on were pretty much spot on, as is a matter of record.

But it certainly hasn't come from nowhere. It may be pretty much unfounded now, but that is a different point, of course. We do not even disagree on that.

That is the point..... he's lost the plot completely and his true nature is emerging- he has a superiority complex and highly competitive streak. I loved Freddie 2 weeks ago but he's let me down so badly with this madness.

The whole situation with Lisa was long over and these latest outbursts are a symptom of his need to win. His delusions are of his own making.... nobody else to blame for them at this stage. Granted Bea has acted as a lynchpin in this whole situation for him but he's a big boy now, and has his own mind on matters.

Well I am not sure I agree with some of that but the conversation is moving on to a different topic now and I have nothing more I particularly want to say on the other points you are raising. It will be interesting to see how Freddie reacts to some of the events I am hearing about from last night's live feed.

[camertone]

charlie exposed who freddie really is! nasty and fake!!
charlie is brilliant!
freddie thinks he already won bb, get him out! he is too arrogant!

[BJ]

Originally posted by Patricia4
I was hoping you wanted him to go home because I do he's a nasty two faced creep.

:thumbs:

"I know the words but I can't put them together like you" (Charlie to Bea in the kitchen rant) :laugh2:

Charlie and David are both trying to playing the village idiot card

[Chels]

Originally posted by tracy101
freddie isnt an arsehole , freddie wasnt slaggin off sophie , charlie jus wanted to be centre of attention again x
this.
charlie's sinking down my estimations like the titanic.

[karezza]

Charlie is a scheming plonker.
He does Lisa's dirty work.
He lurks in the background and listens to conversations.
He hates Siavash & Freddie because he thinks they are his biggest rivals.

[luminoussun]

Just go!!! home please

[EmptySouls]

Poor old Charlie totally lost the plot on this one. Halfwit mentioned Sophie's part in how the argument developed and Charlie just went off on one...'Don't bring Sophie into this.'

Er...it was Sophie who started it all which is all Halfwit was saying.

Then we see two minutes of the most vile tirade by anybody so far in the house rivaling even Lisa.

Anybody that can say 'Well done Charlie' for that must have some strange ideas on acceptable behaviour. It makes me wonder how some people live their lives.

[XxkellzxbellzxX]

as a halfwit/charlie fan i think it's hard to pick who was in the right at the end of the day its gettin pointless people trying to make any excuse not to like freddie/Halfwit when they want him out hears a really cookie crazy idea next time he's up vote for him to be a evicted you think you could get your heads around that concept

[Blink_Me]

As soon as Freddie mentioned Sophie's name, Charlie immediately jumped on Freddie. He thought Freddie was saying bad things about Sophie, when obviously he wasn't. Charlie is just too stupid to even discuss anything. He didn't even let Freddie try to explain what he meant by saying he had bad vibes from Sophie.

[shash]

Yes Charlie, please, please, please GO!

[BB22]

Originally posted by EmptySouls
Poor old Charlie totally lost the plot on this one. Halfwit mentioned Sophie's part in how the argument developed and Charlie just went off on one...'Don't bring Sophie into this.'

Er...it was Sophie who started it all which is all Halfwit was saying.

Then we see two minutes of the most vile tirade by anybody so far in the house rivaling even Lisa.

Anybody that can say 'Well done Charlie' for that must have some strange ideas on acceptable behaviour. It makes me wonder how some people live their lives.

This is absolutely right. Charlie interrupted one of Freddie's very first sentences on the subject. It was quite plain to me that Freddie was making a comment which was not even intended to be a criticism of Sophie yet as soon as he heard her name, Charlie just exploded into a rant. It was quite laughable really.

[britannia]

Yes go Charlie right out the door on eviction night, he made a complete idiot of himself last night, and the sooner he goes the better.

[nataliee_]

woooow! go charlie!
freddy, bea and marcus always goes on about game plans that lisa has and how horriable she is whenever she hardly does anything to them.
Charlie was spot on! Glad someone stould up to him!

rodrigo or charlie to win <33

[nataliee_]

woooow! go charlie!
freddy, bea and marcus always goes on about game plans that lisa has and how horriable she is whenever she hardly does anything to them.
Charlie was spot on! Glad someone stould up to him!

rodrigo or charlie to win <33

[nickc25]

Originally posted by prkp12
Standing up to freddie, freddie is the bigggest asshole ever!
i agree with charlie
what about you?

Charlie can just speak faster than others and that is it. He did not let Freddie explain at all and then just said he did not want to hear anymore of it, which is pathetic thing to do. Sorry excuse for a man.

Freddie just said he got the bad vibe from sophie and charlie immediately jumped on him without letting freddie finish. All he was trying to say was he got the vibe from sophie that she felt it was wrong of marcus to do that and charlie has to twist things!!

He knows that freddie is his biggest threat and has suddenly turned on him. If he had seen all the things lisa has done and said he would not have anything to do with her. I am glad though he will not win because people know he is a two faced **** stirrer who's only hope of winning is a sympathy vote which our great british public seems to fall for quite often.

[nanaimo]

Go Charlie alright, out the front door, what an a-hole, saying don't bring sophie into it (fag-gate), she started it you idiot :rolleyes:

[kathypink]

Originally posted by prkp12
yea but freddie always brings up evictions and how he is so POPULAR

Because Freddie wasn't voted out by the public when he was nominated, he sure does think he's never going to be voted out. But I don't think he's as popular as he was - he's just Bea's lightweight sheep and agrees with EVERYTHING Bea says.

It was so good to see Charlie telling Freddie how he sees him. Go Charlie go :thumbs

[nanaimo]

charlie is biggest gameplayer and very aggresive, get him out fast as false as sophies breasts tbh

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by nickc25
Originally posted by prkp12
Standing up to freddie, freddie is the bigggest asshole ever!
i agree with charlie
what about you?

Charlie can just speak faster than others and that is it. He did not let Freddie explain at all and then just said he did not want to hear anymore of it, which is pathetic thing to do. Sorry excuse for a man.

Freddie just said he got the bad vibe from sophie and charlie immediately jumped on him without letting freddie finish. All he was trying to say was he got the vibe from sophie that she felt it was wrong of marcus to do that and charlie has to twist things!!

He knows that freddie is his biggest threat and has suddenly turned on him. If he had seen all the things lisa has done and said he would not have anything to do with her. I am glad though he will not win because people know he is a two faced **** stirrer who's only hope of winning is a sympathy vote which our great british public seems to fall for quite often.

Oh how stupid of me, I had forgotten how sensitive Fredde was to Sophie's vibes! :puzzled::puzzled::puzzled:

Freddie was clearly trying to divert Marcus' heat away from Bea. But even worse, why was Freddie's shocked and disturbed expression ANYONE else's fault but his own. Cast out first the beam from thine own eye!!! Marcus was manipulating Freddie by suggesting he saw it as Bea's fault that Freddie was appalled! SO transparent the lot of them, so much so that even Charlie could see it.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by nanaimo
Go Charlie alright, out the front door, what an a-hole, saying don't bring sophie into it (fag-gate), she started it you idiot :rolleyes:
Lets step back to the beginning to see who started it, rather than starting several steps down the story. Marcus took the cigarettes and hid them. He then put them where Sophie would find them when he sent her to get a can of lager out of his drawer. He deliberately triggered the whole thing.

[HBB1508]

Originally posted by EmptySouls
Poor old Charlie totally lost the plot on this one. Halfwit mentioned Sophie's part in how the argument developed and Charlie just went off on one...'Don't bring Sophie into this.'

Er...it was Sophie who started it all which is all Halfwit was saying.

Then we see two minutes of the most vile tirade by anybody so far in the house rivaling even Lisa.

Anybody that can say 'Well done Charlie' for that must have some strange ideas on acceptable behaviour. It makes me wonder how some people live their lives.

:thumbs: I found it quite hard to watch as it wasn't a constructive argument just Charlie shouting and not listening as per normal - and later when Charlie was talking to Freddie about it in the sitting room - the moment Freddie made a salient point Charlie just put his hand up and told Freddie to drop the subject. Awful Charlie really needs to go now.

[shash]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by nanaimo
Go Charlie alright, out the front door, what an a-hole, saying don't bring sophie into it (fag-gate), she started it you idiot :rolleyes:
Lets step back to the beginning to see who started it, rather than starting several steps down the story. Marcus took the cigarettes and hid them. He then put them where Sophie would find them when he sent her to get a can of lager out of his drawer. He deliberately triggered the whole thing.

I don't buy this at all. Whatever his reasons for taking the cigarettes, the dramas of the night were instigated by Sophie and Charlie.

[BB22]

I think people are letting their imaginations run away with them with this whole "Marcus wanted her to find the cigarettes" nonsense. Still, people are fond of such unlikely theories on this forum.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by HBB1508
Originally posted by EmptySouls
Poor old Charlie totally lost the plot on this one. Halfwit mentioned Sophie's part in how the argument developed and Charlie just went off on one...'Don't bring Sophie into this.'

Er...it was Sophie who started it all which is all Halfwit was saying.

Then we see two minutes of the most vile tirade by anybody so far in the house rivaling even Lisa.

Anybody that can say 'Well done Charlie' for that must have some strange ideas on acceptable behaviour. It makes me wonder how some people live their lives.

:thumbs: I found it quite hard to watch as it wasn't a constructive argument just Charlie shouting and not listening as per normal - and later when Charlie was talking to Freddie about it in the sitting room - the moment Freddie made a salient point Charlie just put his hand up and told Freddie to drop the subject. Awful Charlie really needs to go now.

But Charlie was fairly spot on in what he was saying, imo, Freddie does go on loads about Lisas "gameplan" when tbh I really don't think she has one, all she's doing is hanging around with the people she likes and giving out about people she doesn't, thats not a gameplan thats human nature. Freddie & co do exactely the same thing infact lately Freddie and Bea have been the main culprits for looking like they have some sort of gameplan, if your ask me I reckon Bea is the only one in there with a gameplan!!

[nickc25]

He also said to drop the subject but then was happy to go and chat to anyone who would listen about it which was again pathetic. If he is like that in real life god help him.

[modena]

Originally posted by shash
Charlie has gone beserk and is making a right fool of himself, rushing into rash judgements. Is he on X2 speed while everyone else is on normal speed? He could be a great horseracing commentator :wink:

Yep, since Hira was booted.

His little mind has been doing overtime thinking the quiet and nice people aren't so popular as he once thought. Big change of gameplan there.:whistle:

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by shash
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by nanaimo
Go Charlie alright, out the front door, what an a-hole, saying don't bring sophie into it (fag-gate), she started it you idiot :rolleyes:
Lets step back to the beginning to see who started it, rather than starting several steps down the story. Marcus took the cigarettes and hid them. He then put them where Sophie would find them when he sent her to get a can of lager out of his drawer. He deliberately triggered the whole thing.

I don't buy this at all. Whatever his reasons for taking the cigarettes, the dramas of the night were instigated by Sophie and Charlie.

That's OK, I'm not selling it, I give it freely and generously. IMO your argument is ill-founded; simply a view plucked from the air with no evidence offered.

[shash]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by shash
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by nanaimo
Go Charlie alright, out the front door, what an a-hole, saying don't bring sophie into it (fag-gate), she started it you idiot :rolleyes:
Lets step back to the beginning to see who started it, rather than starting several steps down the story. Marcus took the cigarettes and hid them. He then put them where Sophie would find them when he sent her to get a can of lager out of his drawer. He deliberately triggered the whole thing.

I don't buy this at all. Whatever his reasons for taking the cigarettes, the dramas of the night were instigated by Sophie and Charlie.

That's OK, I'm not selling it, I give it freely and generously. IMO your argument is ill-founded; simply a view plucked from the air with no evidence offered.

OK, the evidence is that when Sophie found the cigarettes, instead of questioning Marcus about them, which would have been the logical and reasonable thing to do, she went around to the housemates who were most likely to make a scene about it. She lit the fuse for the night's arguments. Charlie was so fired up and ready for a row that he leaped into a conversation between Freddie and Marcus that had nothing to do with him. He heard Sophie's name mentioned and jumped to entirely the wrong conclusion and behaved like a man possessed, causing trouble for the rest of the night and not allowing Freddie to explain anything. If Sophie has simply spoken to Marcus in the first place then nothing would have happened.

I hope this shows that my comment was not a random thought, ill-founded or without evidence :hugesmile:

What is the evidence for Marcus planting those cigarettes for Sophie to find them? :puzzled:

[BB22]

Personally, if I was in such a situation I would always discuss it privately with the relevant party before deciding how to act for the best.

[AhmedFan2004]

Charlie was legendary last night.

30, 000 fans on facebook, Don't insult members.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by BB22
Personally, if I was in such a situation I would always discuss it privately with the relevant party before deciding how to act for the best.
You are my favourite poster on here, it's a shame I can't keep my calm and post calmly and unbiasedly like you do. It's so easy to get sucked into the petty idiocy and bandwagon mentality on here.

I think most of the hate towards HMs is actually just misdirected hate; because fans rile other fans up. Nothing even to do with HMs!

I do think Charlie was legendary last night, he was spot on IMO and called Freddie out completely.

Notice how Freddie talked about the public loving him again.

[nanaimo]

Lisa Will Reach The Final Baby

Dream on you scree wanna-be

[HayleyLeigh]

go charlie go! i liked the way he handled freddie =]

[bigmalky]

Hmmmm... did you forget the two-faced arse told freddie that Lisa said nothing about him? You're all delusional. More people hate Charlie now than like him.

[h33]

Just caught up with last nights hl show, have to say I think Charlie came out of that pretty well. Yeah, he gets carried away and has to apologise for his behaviour (in part) afterwards but he managed to out talk Freddie which is some achievement. And I think he told Freddie things he needed to hear.

Freddie floundered and it didn't appear as though he was being completely honest in what he was saying to Charlie in the kitchen and seemed to try cover it up with ridiculously lonooooooooooonnnnnnng draaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwn out exclamations. I think it's like he's coming down off Bea and through the series has gone from being the teased kookie boy in the class, to the newly confident and accepted, to thinking Bea really liked him and one of de boys.....to being dropped on his ass by Bea, and exposed and now the lost boy again. Him eplaining intelligence in an argument (I nearly threw the remote at the tv then) and alternating between trying to confound the person he's arguing with then mocking them like a 12 year old just makes him look stupid.

Goddamn it Freddie....I think I want you out!!!

But not before Bea :whistle:

I think its funny when Lisa gets brought up as the gang leader/ mischief merchant...I think she's been relatively quiet since the new hm's were brought in and let it be known that she was widely disliked.

[shams79]

The reason why Chrlie the Saint lol dedcided to have a go art Halfwit, was because Halfwit prediction that Lisa would go on Friday was wrong, so all that time he just wanted to say to Halfwit lokk your wrong you don't know what the public want, I more prefer halfwit than Charlie has he gets on the bang wagon alot and he has these little outburst as it makes him the sentre of attension, look at his behaviour when his up for evction he acts like a desperate animal desperate to stay in the house and he sucks up to everyone.:conf: