Noirin and Bea - Two Sociopaths in one year.

[InOne]

I posted about this a while back, but it needs to be revisited after Bea just never calms down. So here we go, there qualities seem to sum them both up.

Factor1: Aggressive narcissism

1. Glibness/superficial charm
2. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3. Pathological lying
4. Cunning/manipulative
5. Lack of remorse or guilt
6. Emotionally shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
8. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Factor2: Socially deviant lifestyle

1. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
2. Parasitic lifestyle
3. Poor behavioral control
4. Promiscuous sexual behavior
5. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
6. Impulsivity
7. Irresponsibility
8. Juvenile delinquency
9. Early behavior problems
10. Revocation of conditional release

Traits not correlated with either factor

1. Many short-term marital relationships
2. Criminal versatility


Now Bea seems alot worse and Noirin did warn us. But if Noirin had of stayed in, do you think she would have been worse than Bea? bea clearly had it in for her, would have been quite a battle!

[ange7]

zzz

[InOne]

Originally posted by ange7
zzz


Stick to Oz related topics then.

[philmurph]

Marcus an halftit two pathetic excuses for men in the one year:bigsmile:

[Niamh.]

Noirin & Bea aren't even on the same level!!! I don't think Noirin was purposly nasty, she was selfish and thats about it really!! Bea is whole other kettle of fish!!

[jegmeister]

I was just going to post a thread about this. Don't forget to add to the list Sree the narcissist.

It raises the question I've posed before - what are BB psychologists doing? They have to explain why people like these are allowed on a TV show.

[InOne]

Originally posted by jegmeister
I was just going to post a thread about this. Don't forget to add to the list Sree the narcissist.

It raises the question I've posed before - what are BB psychologists doing? They have to explain why people like these are allowed on a TV show.


Probably because Sociopaths are expert liars and charmers. Like it is easy to be anyone during the audition process. Noirin took a while to settle in, but Bea literally exploded.

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Noirin & Bea aren't even on the same level!!! I don't think Noirin was purposly nasty, she was selfish and thats about it really!! Bea is whole other kettle of fish!!


Still but Noirin did not care one bit and seemed to be enjoying it a little too much.

[Niamh.]

By the way I don't see how any of your Factor 2's describe Noirin??

[masonbason]

Originally posted by InOne
I posted about this a while back, but it needs to be revisited after Bea just never calms down. So here we go, there qualities seem to sum them both up.

Factor1: Aggressive narcissism

1. Glibness/superficial charm
2. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3. Pathological lying
4. Cunning/manipulative
5. Lack of remorse or guilt
6. Emotionally shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
8. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Factor2: Socially deviant lifestyle

1. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
2. Parasitic lifestyle
3. Poor behavioral control
4. Promiscuous sexual behavior
5. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
6. Impulsivity
7. Irresponsibility
8. Juvenile delinquency
9. Early behavior problems
10. Revocation of conditional release

Traits not correlated with either factor

1. Many short-term marital relationships
2. Criminal versatility


Now Bea seems alot worse and Noirin did warn us. But if Noirin had of stayed in, do you think she would have been worse than Bea? bea clearly had it in for her, would have been quite a battle!

I thought i was good at sprouting psychobabble, darn it, you ahve beaten me to it.

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
By the way I don't see how any of your Factor 2's describe Noirin??


Quite a few of them do actually.

[jegmeister]

Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by jegmeister
I was just going to post a thread about this. Don't forget to add to the list Sree the narcissist.

It raises the question I've posed before - what are BB psychologists doing? They have to explain why people like these are allowed on a TV show.


Probably because Sociopaths are expert liars and charmers. Like it is easy to be anyone during the audition process. Noirin took a while to settle in, but Bea literally exploded.

but psychologists are supposed to be looking out for these traits. that's what they are paid for. of course, it's difficult but it's their job

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
By the way I don't see how any of your Factor 2's describe Noirin??


Quite a few of them do actually.

like which ones? The very first one should be struck out cos surely to God all of the HMs are going to be bored being stuck in the house for weeks!!

[philmurph]

love it,:cheer2: people still talking about Noirin

[InOne]

Originally posted by jegmeister
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by jegmeister
I was just going to post a thread about this. Don't forget to add to the list Sree the narcissist.

It raises the question I've posed before - what are BB psychologists doing? They have to explain why people like these are allowed on a TV show.


Probably because Sociopaths are expert liars and charmers. Like it is easy to be anyone during the audition process. Noirin took a while to settle in, but Bea literally exploded.

but psychologists are supposed to be looking out for these traits. that's what they are paid for. of course, it's difficult but it's their job


That is the thing, they are expert at being deceptive. Psychologists are sooooo trusting, they are literally like dancing to their tune, completely entranced.

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
By the way I don't see how any of your Factor 2's describe Noirin??


Quite a few of them do actually.

like which ones? The very first one should be struck out cos surely to God all of the HMs are going to be bored being stuck in the house for weeks!!


Well, 4,6 and 7 do.

[Bombardier]

Yay another medical diagnosis thread! The only thing I think we can diagnose without medical expertise is how David's loud annoying voice has rendered himself deaf.

[InOne]

Originally posted by Bombardier
Yay another medical diagnosis thread! The only thing I think we can diagnose without medical expertise is how David's loud annoying voice has rendered himself deaf.



It is better than most threads atm, talking about whos up, and the shitty get freddie out ones. It is something interesting and a bit more mature.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
By the way I don't see how any of your Factor 2's describe Noirin??


Quite a few of them do actually.

like which ones? The very first one should be struck out cos surely to God all of the HMs are going to be bored being stuck in the house for weeks!!


Well, 4,6 and 7 do.

How is promiscuous?? Snogging someone & flirting makes you promiscuous now???? What does that make Sophie then cos she actually slept with someone????

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
By the way I don't see how any of your Factor 2's describe Noirin??


Quite a few of them do actually.

like which ones? The very first one should be struck out cos surely to God all of the HMs are going to be bored being stuck in the house for weeks!!


Well, 4,6 and 7 do.

How is promiscuous?? Snogging someone & flirting makes you promiscuous now???? What does that make Sophie then cos she actually slept with someone????



I diagnose Sophie a naive idiot. lol

[Niamh.]

as for 6 & 7??? I don't see that either

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
as for 6 & 7??? I don't see that either


Well just think about it. It will come, I have faith in you!!!!

[Niamh.]

How is promiscuous?? Snogging someone & flirting makes you promiscuous now???? What does that make Sophie then cos she actually slept with someone???? [/quote]



I diagnose Sophie a naive idiot. lol [/quote]

Ok, but that still doesn't answer how it makes Noirin promiscuous???? She didn't sleep with anyone in there, I believe you have to sleep with numerous people in order to be promiscuous, or atleast 2 anyway???

[DiamondDogTags]

What about Kenny?

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
as for 6 & 7??? I don't see that either


Well just think about it. It will come, I have faith in you!!!!

come on Doc explain it to me cos I just can't see it!!!!???? LOL (PS. I am enjoying the break from Marcus & Freddie discussions!!)

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
How is promiscuous?? Snogging someone & flirting makes you promiscuous now???? What does that make Sophie then cos she actually slept with someone????



I diagnose Sophie a naive idiot. lol [/quote]

Ok, but that still doesn't answer how it makes Noirin promiscuous???? She didn't sleep with anyone in there, I believe you have to sleep with numerous people in order to be promiscuous, or atleast 2 anyway??? [/quote]


I guess not the sleeping around bit. It's more the way she used her sexuality to get what she wanted. She teased Sree, Marcus and Siavash, and then basically laughed in their face.

[ange7]

Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by ange7
zzz


Stick to Oz related topics then.
nah I'll like rubbish threads best.

go look up sociopath. I counted only two of your points that even matched the definition.

[ange7]

Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
How is promiscuous?? Snogging someone & flirting makes you promiscuous now???? What does that make Sophie then cos she actually slept with someone????



I diagnose Sophie a naive idiot. lol

Ok, but that still doesn't answer how it makes Noirin promiscuous???? She didn't sleep with anyone in there, I believe you have to sleep with numerous people in order to be promiscuous, or atleast 2 anyway??? [/quote]


I guess not the sleeping around bit. It's more the way she used her sexuality to get what she wanted. She teased Sree, Marcus and Siavash, and then basically laughed in their face. [/quote]
rubbish nanna

[InOne]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
How is promiscuous?? Snogging someone & flirting makes you promiscuous now???? What does that make Sophie then cos she actually slept with someone????



I diagnose Sophie a naive idiot. lol

Ok, but that still doesn't answer how it makes Noirin promiscuous???? She didn't sleep with anyone in there, I believe you have to sleep with numerous people in order to be promiscuous, or atleast 2 anyway???


I guess not the sleeping around bit. It's more the way she used her sexuality to get what she wanted. She teased Sree, Marcus and Siavash, and then basically laughed in their face. [/quote]
rubbish nanna [/quote]

Don't insult other members.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
How is promiscuous?? Snogging someone & flirting makes you promiscuous now???? What does that make Sophie then cos she actually slept with someone????



I diagnose Sophie a naive idiot. lol

Ok, but that still doesn't answer how it makes Noirin promiscuous???? She didn't sleep with anyone in there, I believe you have to sleep with numerous people in order to be promiscuous, or atleast 2 anyway??? [/quote]


I guess not the sleeping around bit. It's more the way she used her sexuality to get what she wanted. She teased Sree, Marcus and Siavash, and then basically laughed in their face. [/quote]

Ok but that doesn't make her promiscuous! And she didn't tease Siavash, she was half with him, what she did was drop him when a better option arrived which is selfish not promiscuous!!

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Niamhxo
How is promiscuous?? Snogging someone & flirting makes you promiscuous now???? What does that make Sophie then cos she actually slept with someone????



I diagnose Sophie a naive idiot. lol

Ok, but that still doesn't answer how it makes Noirin promiscuous???? She didn't sleep with anyone in there, I believe you have to sleep with numerous people in order to be promiscuous, or atleast 2 anyway???


I guess not the sleeping around bit. It's more the way she used her sexuality to get what she wanted. She teased Sree, Marcus and Siavash, and then basically laughed in their face. [/quote]

Ok but that doesn't make her promiscuous! And she didn't tease Siavash, she was half with him, what she did was drop him when a better option arrived which is selfish not promiscuous!! [/quote]


She was not half with him at all!!!! She changed her mind like every min. Plus see how cold she was to Sivash when Issac came? That is not selfish, it's just lack of empathy.

[CelticLord]

Noirin was a flirt...Bea's just twisted get real

[InOne]

Originally posted by CelticLord
Noirin was a flirt...Bea's just twisted get real


What is there to "get real" about?

[Chantel]

I think someone just wants to talk about Noirin :laugh:

[Niamh.]

She was not half with him at all!!!! She changed her mind like every min. Plus see how cold she was to Sivash when Issac came? That is not selfish, it's just lack of empathy. [/quote]

Well, she was under the duvet snogging him everyday, that in my eyes is half with him!!! and of course she was being selfish when she dropped him for Isaac, she wanted Isaac so she went with him.

Dictionary def. of Selfish :

devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by Rachel-x
I think someone just wants to talk about Noirin :laugh:

LOL, I just want to talk about anything other than Freddie V's Marcus!!!

[InOne]

I should probably clarify that the list I posted was something called Hare's Checklist. It goes by a point scale, and from that you work out if they are a Psychopath/Sociopath or not. They don't need all the qualities.

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
She was not half with him at all!!!! She changed her mind like every min. Plus see how cold she was to Sivash when Issac came? That is not selfish, it's just lack of empathy.

Well, she was under the duvet snogging him everyday, that in my eyes is half with him!!! and of course she was being selfish when she dropped him for Isaac, she wanted Isaac so she went with him.

Dictionary def. of Selfish :

devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others. [/quote]

Selfish and lack of empathy then!!!! And well Noirin made it clear they weren't together yet kept kissing him and getting cosy all the time.

[InOne]

Originally posted by Rachel-x
I think someone just wants to talk about Noirin :laugh:


I'd prefer to talk about Bea really, i'd say she is alot worse than Noirin lol

[Chantel]

Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Rachel-x
I think someone just wants to talk about Noirin :laugh:


I'd prefer to talk about Bea really, i'd say she is alot worse than Noirin lol

:thumbs: Someone who agrees with me

[Niamh.]

Selfish and lack of empathy then!!!! And well Noirin made it clear they weren't together yet kept kissing him and getting cosy all the time. [/quote]

Yes, so she was half with him - saying she wasn't but acting like she was LOL. I agree with that she has 6/8 of the factor 1 qualities BTW

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Selfish and lack of empathy then!!!! And well Noirin made it clear they weren't together yet kept kissing him and getting cosy all the time.

Yes, so she was half with him - saying she wasn't but acting like she was LOL. I agree with that she has 6/8 of the factor 1 qualities BTW [/quote]


I would say Noirin would rank quite high, but Bea waaaay higher lol Bea is just vicious and does not care who she steps on.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by Rachel-x
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Rachel-x
I think someone just wants to talk about Noirin :laugh:


I'd prefer to talk about Bea really, i'd say she is alot worse than Noirin lol

:thumbs: Someone who agrees with me

No problem!! I could talk about how much I hate Bea all day but I would have had nothing to argue with you about there InOne cos I agree with you :wink:

[InOne]

Originally posted by Rachel-x
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Rachel-x
I think someone just wants to talk about Noirin :laugh:


I'd prefer to talk about Bea really, i'd say she is alot worse than Noirin lol

:thumbs: Someone who agrees with me


Bea is almost a textbook Soicopath really, I can't believe BB had no idea.

[InOne]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by Rachel-x
Originally posted by InOne
Originally posted by Rachel-x
I think someone just wants to talk about Noirin :laugh:


I'd prefer to talk about Bea really, i'd say she is alot worse than Noirin lol

:thumbs: Someone who agrees with me

No problem!! I could talk about how much I hate Bea all day but I would have had nothing to argue with you about there InOne cos I agree with you :wink:


haha yeah, well I don't hate either of them, im just looking at it from a psychological point of view.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I have to be honest here, i actually like Bea, i though Noirin was a bit of a pain in the end.

[Niamh.]

haha yeah, well I don't hate either of them, im just looking at it from a psychological point of view. [/quote]

LOL, Ok, I suppose I can't really hate someone I've never even met.......let me rephrase......dislike with a passion!!!!:joker:

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by BigBrotherfan4ever
I have to be honest here, i actually like Bea, i though Noirin was a bit of a pain in the end.

Oh God!! What on earth do you like about Bea??? Please tell???

[InOne]

Originally posted by BigBrotherfan4ever
I have to be honest here, i actually like Bea, i though Noirin was a bit of a pain in the end.



What do you like about Bea???? Please don't tell me she reminds you of yourself lol

[InOne]

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/bb10-Noirin2-431x300.jpg
http://www.smeggys.co.uk/smeggy_images/big_brother/bb10/pics_inset/bb10_2009_bea_inset.jpg


Look into the eyes of the Sociopaths!!!!!! You would not think there was anything wrong with them, but you would not believe what they are capeable of!!!!!!!!!! :tongue:

[InOne]

Just thinking about Bea, BB must know lol She is just absolutely off her head!!!

[Chantel]

Originally posted by InOne
Just thinking about Bea, BB must know lol She is just absolutely off her head!!!

Maybe thats why they put her in ;)

[InOne]

Originally posted by Rachel-x
Originally posted by InOne
Just thinking about Bea, BB must know lol She is just absolutely off her head!!!

Maybe thats why they put her in ;)



Most likely yes. She has stirred up some real sh!t.