No-one can have enjoyed watching that, can they?

[shash]

What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

[*mazedsalv**]

Apart from the comebacks that Freddie said with the "voice giving me a panis attack", yes it was very uncomfortable, it seemed he actually was having a panic attack and was having a breakdown, reminded me a bit like Shahbaz in BB7.

[mist]

It was bad to watch. He was a broken man.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Horrible to watch, it actually made me really upset seeing Freddie like that.

I suffer with panic attacks myself and he was visibly suffering, no way could he have been putting that on. The poor guy was emotionally exhausted after another totally vindictive attack by that vile bitch.

[Vladimir]

I feel sorry for him, but it's his fault.

[Vicky.]

The few FMs who hate freddie will do.

They will say bea was fantastic.

The sane ones among us, with a little empathy will not have enjoyed it.

[Kazanne]

i don't know about Freddie being upset,I was watching it,she was cruel and Bea sunk to a new low tonight

[MeMyselfAndI]

I was so upset, I'm really liking Freddie now.

[liv_xo]

yes it was. i've always loved freddie. and tonight i seriously felt more him, more than ever. even back in the beginning where he was constantly picked on by others, he seemed to stay strong through and rise above it. but with bea, it's like, he's continuously admitted how he fancies her, so obviously he's trying not see her in a bad way, and doesn't want to talk back to her. which she's taking full advantage of.

i can officially say that bea is the nastiest housemate i've ever come across. i said the same about sophia, then noirin, and grace back in the day. but bea beats them all. pure bitch.

[alchemists1]

Bea is a witch and has used and abused Freddy and was totally outta order tonight,she is vile the worst kinda female,and Freddy was genuinley upset and Bea jumped on it to try and inflict even more pain on him,fair enough Freddy shouldnt have let it get to him as much as it has but it did seem like he had no control over it.
Bea mashed his head to a point where he couldnt defend himself and she manipulated it all to make him doubt himself when in fact he had done nothing wrong,it seems he got all this cause he tried to help Bea by telling her the truth that she can be negative alotta the time.
It really annoyed me when she even turned that to accuse Freddy of being negative lol what a bitch.

[shash]

It is good we feel the empathy and understanding. He has remained strong through so much, but these words coming from someone he had real feelings must have cut him to the core, and I could barely watch. She is worse than I ever imagined, she knows that Freddie is a man of great integrity, peace and will to get on with people (generally, putting aside the buttergate thing) and she smashed all the things he prided himself on, positivity, friendship etc. For her to go on about negativity, his bad aura, move bed to be as far away as possible, and to top it all, claim she was the hurt party and ridicule his voice. She is too much. I now don't believe she is a mole anymore as they would have withdrawn her then. He is a sensitive man and she knows this, there is no way she could be as baffled and innocent looking if she was the kind person she makes herself out to be.

[deeko1973]

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[NolasGirl]

I really really really don't like this woman. Not just in a Big Brother light- the way I feel about Dave for example. But on a real level. I wouldn't like to cross paths with her in real life. She almost seems to have something wrong in the head.

Yes, it was uncomfortable to watch. Why don't they do something about it and put the bitch up for eviction?

Passive aggressive bullies are the worst kinds of people.

[NolasGirl]

I really really really don't like this woman. Not just in a Big Brother light- the way I feel about Dave for example. But on a real level. I wouldn't like to cross paths with her in real life. She almost seems to have something wrong in the head.

Yes, it was uncomfortable to watch. Why don't they do something about it and put the bitch up for eviction?

Passive aggressive bullies are the worst kinds of people.

[NolasGirl]

I really really really don't like this woman. Not just in a Big Brother light- the way I feel about Dave for example. But on a real level. I wouldn't like to cross paths with her in real life. She almost seems to have something wrong in the head.

Yes, it was uncomfortable to watch. Why don't they do something about it and put the bitch up for eviction?

Passive aggressive bullies are the worst kinds of people.

[NolasGirl]

I really really really don't like this woman. Not just in a Big Brother light- the way I feel about Dave for example. But on a real level. I wouldn't like to cross paths with her in real life. She almost seems to have something wrong in the head.

Yes, it was uncomfortable to watch. Why don't they do something about it and put the bitch up for eviction?

Passive aggressive bullies are the worst kinds of people.

[NolasGirl]

I really really really don't like this woman. Not just in a Big Brother light- the way I feel about Dave for example. But on a real level. I wouldn't like to cross paths with her in real life. She almost seems to have something wrong in the head.

Yes, it was uncomfortable to watch. Why don't they do something about it and put the bitch up for eviction?

Passive aggressive bullies are the worst kinds of people.

[NolasGirl]

I really really really don't like this woman. Not just in a Big Brother light- the way I feel about Dave for example. But on a real level. I wouldn't like to cross paths with her in real life. She almost seems to have something wrong in the head.

Yes, it was uncomfortable to watch. Why don't they do something about it and put the bitch up for eviction?

Passive aggressive bullies are the worst kinds of people.

[Stephanie]

i feel sorry for him, but he was so dramatic when he was speaking that i burst out laughing.

[Tom]

Not uncomfortable and part of his game plan

[setanta]

It was uncomfortable viewing for me..... this woman sank to a new low. This was a completely calculated attack on Freddie, and it angers me even more that Big Brother didn't do the right thing this week and have her and Sophie up for eviction. It was mental torture really.

I'll have to watch it again tomorrow when I'm less tired cuz I honestly wasn't paying attention too much to what was being said; rather I was hearing the tone of their voices and facial expressions. She was trying to intimidate and break Freddie... certainly looked that way anyway. Did you notice her suddenly shutting the waterworks off when he moved out of the room?

[setanta]

Originally posted by stefani
i feel sorry for him, but he was so dramatic when he was speaking that i burst out laughing.

He did overdo it a tad.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Tom
Not uncomfortable and part of his game plan

No way was he faking that reaction, he was on the verge of a panic attack, trust me I know what one looks and feels like and there is NO WAY he could fake that.

You must have a heart of stone if you think that was all a manipulation.

Look at Bea for crocodile tears and false reactions, not Freddie in this case.

[u_drunk]

i only laughed because of the way he talked...i dont like bea but i do belive she is smarter than halfwit!

[Myammy]

Originally posted by shash
What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

I have watched every BB since day one, and never , ever, have I felt so sickened , and near to tears as I have tonight.
For days now, Bea has been verbally abusing Halfwit, all, I think, just to prove that she has, what she considers to be , the superior intelligence.
Tonight showed just what a vile young woman she is,
no remorse , sympathy or empathy.
When she came into the house, she attached herself to Halfwit , knowing that he had been the favourite to win for weeks, now that she has settled in, she is treating him as dispensable.
And such an easy liar, one minute in the bedroom, she is saying that no one would nominate David, asking why would anyone nominate him, the next minute she is in the diary room nominating him.
I hope her family are proud of what they produced, if she was my daughter, I would be ashamed.

[Stardoll]

It was truly terrible. Watching him struggle for words, I suggested to my mum and stepdad, "It's almost like he's having a panic attack," and lo and behold, a few minutes later that's exactly what happened.

(I have suffered with extreme panic attacks before that rendered me mute, so that's why I made the connection.)

[jet]

I am disgusted at Bea. Her emotional bullying of Halfwit and his reaction to it made for the most painful viewing of the series. I dislike Halfwit, as you all know HA! but it is not pleasant to see anyone hurting like that. I was going to vote for him loads to leave this week, but now I won't be voting at all.
I'll be waiting for Bea....then I'm gonna pounce!

[shash]

there is no way Freddie was faking that, and I say this totally objectively. And one look at his eyes will tell you the stress he is under.

we all have fun on the forums with our favourites and our least favourites but I like to think that the majority of people do not feel total hate for anyone and it is just game show panto and banter, to use Davina's and kris' terms. But tonight's show transcended all of this and watching Bea I felt disgust, and huge compassion for Freddie. I often have C4+1 on in the background as I browse the forum after an episode, but tonight I do not have the strength to endure it again.

BB saw all this take place before nomination results were announced. They could have used whatever pretext they liked, a twist or whatever, to do the right thing and remove this deeply cruel and unpleasant woman. I now believe there may have been some truth in that rumour of BB staff walking out in disgust at what the housemates are going through. And these were just the highlights! It will take me a long time to erase the memory of her sneering in his face and saying: "why-are-you-talking-like-that?", so I can only imagine how this poor young man must be feeling. He went into that house a confident, positive and happy man and is being taken apart in there.

It's gone beyond a game show now :sad:

[Yorkyboy]

Tonight reinforced the fact that I hope freddie goes on friday.

In reality I dont but if he doesn't and Marcus does, then Freddie is ****ed. They will be like vultures round him and after tonight its debatable whether he could cope.

[tutifruti]

It was very hard to watch and I did feel for him, no one should be made feel that low, but Bea has been outspoken to a few in there infront of everybody and all of the others including Freddie chose to ignore it, instead of pulling her up on it. But I am sure he wont want to be kept in on a sympathy vote. Also I think BB edits miss out bits and join things together to suit who they want to favour.

[aremjay]

I'm absolutely speechless after Beas horrorshow. Surely she's acting? If she isn't then all I can say is RUN, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

[eezamana]

Originally posted by Tom
Not uncomfortable and part of his game plan

No way Tom, this was a man in genuine distress who was hyperventilating & having a panic attack, he wasn't "a bit over the top" he had no control over how his body was reacting.
I know this, because like Kitty, I know what panic attacks are like & I know what having 1 in very similiar circumstances is like. Obviously not in BB house in case you feel like coming back with a smarmy comment.
I found it very uncomfortable to watch tonight & I'm disgusted that Big Brother didn't intervene because if that had been a male housemate who relentlessly emotionally bullied a female housemate till they got into that state they would have been strung up.
I hate her, I wish she were up for eviction with Freddie & Marcus, then she would definitely be evicted & the crowd will be baying, genuinely. Not the usual pantomime boos.
In a way I think it may be better for Freddie if he did get evicted on Friday, Marcus is better equipped to handle the bullies in there & Siovash is too laid back to notice much, he reminds me of the rabbit from The magic roundabout, can't remember his name though, he was always stoned. I lovved that show. And I lovved Dolly Pond. Good times.

[Tom]

Originally posted by eezamana
Originally posted by Tom
Not uncomfortable and part of his game plan

No way Tom, this was a man in genuine distress who was hyperventilating & having a panic attack, he wasn't "a bit over the top" he had no control over how his body was reacting. I know this, because like Kitty, I know what panic attacks are like & I know what having 1 in very similiar circumstances is like. Obviously not in BB house in case you feel like coming back with a smarmy comment. I found it very uncomfortable to watch tonight & I'm disgusted that Big Brother didn't intervene because if that had been a male housemate who relentlessly emotionally bullied a female housemate till they got into that state they would have been strung up. I hate her, I wish she were up for eviction with Freddie & Marcus, then she would definitely be evicted & the crowd will be baying, genuinely. Not the usual pantmime boos.

I'm not saying he faked it, he just played on it ... a lot. And please don't get on your high horse and tell me about panic attacks without knowing anything about me. I know for a fact (what I have seen and what I have experienced) panic attacks are much worse than that and he was merely very upset and frustrated.

[PaulyJ]

Freddie's biggest problem is not that she out-argued him which makes it painful for him, but that he thinks she is actually being genuine in her anger. If he realised, i mean really realised she was not being genuine he would of knocked her for six.

[delta]

As much as everyone loathes Bea.

If you sit back and analyse what she has done, then you have to admit, that she has done well.

1) First of all, she will have known that all the newbies will have been up against it from the moment they walked in there, if you are not in that initial bonding period, then odds say that you are going to get booted out early.

2) First strategy, drape yourself over the person that you know is a clear favourite; Tom knew exactly what she was doing. Pretend to be on Freddies level, free loving etc, etc....

3) Agitate the group, always portraying yourself as a victim to gain sympathy, make sure it's done in private and there are no other housemate witness's ( Your word against theirs)

4) Realise you made a mistake in getting close to the three musketeers, do the sums 6 against 4, think fcukk this, I am jumping sh!p, How can I do this.


5) She knows Freddie has enemies in the house, so seizes the opportunity and goes for the jugular by publicly ( in BB house terms) humiliating him, absolve yourself from all the criticism from the previous weeks by blaming the perceived plotter and schemer of the BB house and proclaim in a loud voice that you were put up to all the nastiness etc by the arch villain, and self proclaimed brain bonce of the house.

6) Humiliation achieved, transfer from one group to another goes through swimmingly, she is accepted with open arms ( at least for now)

7) The 4 have now become 3 and look decidely vulnerable - viewed from the inside of the house.

8) The Bealzebub is now potentially in charge of a much weaker group, okay, she has Lisa to contend with, but if she could see off her, then it's quite possible that they won't put her up for nomination and she will make the final week. I believe that is her objective. There is no way she can win this.


I still think she is a manipulitive biatch, with sociapathic tendices and what she is doing in the BB house comes natural. She will have played out all these scenarious in her adult life time and time again.

[dannythehoofe]

I laughed at it all... Quite pathetic of him in my opinion...

Bea is a cow... But Halfwit's reaction was such Drama...

He knew he was likely to be up so he is winning the sympathy vote early! Just as he blinded us all in the first few weeks of BB 10!

Don't be fooled by it all! Evict the big headed fool!

[eezamana]

Originally posted by Tom


I'm not saying he faked it, he just played on it ... a lot. And please don't get on your high horse and tell me about panic attacks without knowing anything about me. I know for a fact (what I have seen and what I have experienced) panic attacks are much worse than that and he was merely very upset and frustrated.


Calm doon Tom, I don't have a horse:wink:

[mist]

Originally posted by shash
What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

It was so upsetting to watch.

[shash]

I think what the cynics need to remember is that Freddie is a very sensitive guy, and his BB universe was crashing around him, he was just told about Siavash possibly using him, then Bea moved beds, mocked his speech, and attacked his integrity which I think was the fatal blow. Some of us are more sensitive than others, and these words from someone he had feelings for were shattering. He was not faking, no way.

[jegmeister]

Originally posted by jet
I am disgusted at Bea. Her emotional bullying of Halfwit and his reaction to it made for the most painful viewing of the series. I dislike Halfwit, as you all know HA! but it is not pleasant to see anyone hurting like that. I was going to vote for him loads to leave this week, but now I won't be voting at all.
I'll be waiting for Bea....then I'm gonna pounce!

wow - jet - there's hope for you after all:thumbs:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by jet
I am disgusted at Bea. Her emotional bullying of Halfwit and his reaction to it made for the most painful viewing of the series. I dislike Halfwit, as you all know HA! but it is not pleasant to see anyone hurting like that. I was going to vote for him loads to leave this week, but now I won't be voting at all.
I'll be waiting for Bea....then I'm gonna pounce!

Wow jet did I just see that :wink::tongue:

But in all seriousness, I am so glad you did not let your dislike of freddie stand in the way of rational judgement like many on here. people are actually applauding bea for breaking him down like that...its very sad to see. Thanks for having a very unbiaserd opinion :hug:

[shash]

Originally posted by jet
I am disgusted at Bea. Her emotional bullying of Halfwit and his reaction to it made for the most painful viewing of the series. I dislike Halfwit, as you all know HA! but it is not pleasant to see anyone hurting like that. I was going to vote for him loads to leave this week, but now I won't be voting at all.
I'll be waiting for Bea....then I'm gonna pounce!


this is precisely the sort of humane and empathetic response I was hoping we would see tonight, where it does not matter who we like or dislike, when a fellow human is in distress we all feel it and I don't want to know anyone that enjoys seeing someone suffer to that extent.
So good on you, jet :thumbs: respect!
and to everyone else that was bigger than the rivalries and felt someone's pain. :thumbs: I would not want to see anyone suffer to that extent in the house, but Bea getting a sound putting in her place, well maybe :wink: The cruelty with her is she did not stop and then made out she was the one suffering ...

[tremault]

this is the first time such a show has actually brought me to tears. I have been in a similar situation and I really felt for him.
i hope bea is made to be very miserable very soon.

[discotheque]

I so want Freddie or someone to hit back at her. Would be great if House mates could see footage of what shes been up to. A thoroughly awful human being.

[boomoo]

Bea is one long piece of jealousy.

She is jealous of the fact that Freddie went to Oxford. Well she could have gone if she had worked and co-operated with her teachers. As she said she was thrown out of one of the best schools in the country ( above the school Freddie went to). She had not even sat her GCSEs.

If she thinks she made herself look intelligent by knocking someone down in the way she did she did not. I am fed up with her use of the word duplicitous and negative. The words weren't mentioned until she arrived.

Anyone can browbeat another person especially if they have a speech problem.
I live with a person with speech problems and when they are tired they just cannot explain at all.

Really cruel to do what she did. We have not seen such a thing in 10 BBs.

[shash]

Originally posted by dannythehoofe
I laughed at it all... Quite pathetic of him in my opinion...

Bea is a cow... But Halfwit's reaction was such Drama...

He knew he was likely to be up so he is winning the sympathy vote early! Just as he blinded us all in the first few weeks of BB 10!

Don't be fooled by it all! Evict the big headed fool!


I don't think he is the one showing himself as pathetic here :rolleyes:

[jimmymckooel]

these things happen on big bro. If Freddie wants to be a politician he'll have to take an attack now and then. I think freddie overreacted.

[shash]

Originally posted by jimmymckooel
these things happen on big bro. If Freddie wants to be a politician he'll have to take an attack now and then. I think freddie overreacted.


the point is, this was not a deliberate reaction, over or otherwise, it was an involuntary reflex over which he had no control, and Bea exacerbated the situation with her in-your-face, "why-are-you-talking-like-that?" scene.

[LisaFan!]

He's a pathetic man who needs to grow up and stop trying to fool the public, he has no shame and dignity at all, it's disturbing.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bea had to endure 3 days of her mind being utterly fcuked over by Halfwit, who has pounded her to death with the same topic over and over, and the same over-analysing babble.

He's refused to leave her alone upon kind request, and in the end she had no choice but to get totally infuriated and distressed by it.

His solution was his crocodile tears in the DR and his 'panic attack' for being called negative.

If he can't hack it, why dish it out?

And Bea doesn't get sympathy because she's not crazy and doesn't have a 'panic attack'?

BS, he's an utter joke and cretin. :nono:

[MissKittyFantastico]

OMG LisaFan/AhmedFan will you please stop posting the same spam posts all over the bloody place!

You've made your point once, and don't actually respond to anyone who disagrees with you, so you're basically trolling!

[IheartBB]

If I believed for a second that Freddie wasn't 100% faking it all, I probably would have only laughed half as hard as I did.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by IheartBB
If I believed for a second that Freddie wasn't 100% faking it all, I probably would have only laughed half as hard as I did.

But you still would have laughed? :rolleyes:

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by shash
What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

I did not enjoy it in the slightest for either of them. I consider it absolutely unforgivable that the have been put in this position. Hopefully after tha agent provocateur leaves in Friday they can restore some degree of civil harmony and sit down and have a proper talk, withou outside interference.

Pity that Rodrigo had to be his helpful self and send Bea back in, just as things might have calmed down. I know he was doing it with the very best of intentions, but I could see it was going to be a train-wreck.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by boomoo
Bea is one long piece of jealousy.

She is jealous of the fact that Freddie went to Oxford. Well she could have gone if she had worked and co-operated with her teachers. As she said she was thrown out of one of the best schools in the country ( above the school Freddie went to). She had not even sat her GCSEs.

If she thinks she made herself look intelligent by knocking someone down in the way she did she did not. I am fed up with her use of the word duplicitous and negative. The words weren't mentioned until she arrived.

Anyone can browbeat another person especially if they have a speech problem.
I live with a person with speech problems and when they are tired they just cannot explain at all.

Really cruel to do what she did. We have not seen such a thing in 10 BBs.

I think you will find that Marcus was the person introduced the term negative with reference to Bea's influence on Freddie. Freddie then used it to Bea and she has understandably reacted to that charge by reflecting it onto the person who used it against her. She does not know that it was a seed planted by the duplicitous Marcus who tells Freddie not to trust Siavash immediately after Freddie has thanked him heartily for his sage advice!

[moonballoon]

Originally posted by shash
What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

Well said.

Poor Freddie. But he'll get over it, and she'll still be a bitch in the morning.

[Captain.Remy]

I LOVED it ! I love Bea from now on, I'm glad she stood up against Freddie, it was needed.
It was the Freddie show last night, that was pure fake and comedy, it was dreadful but at the same time hilarious because I can't stand him at ALL.

[fitz2k2]

she hit freddie in the nuts and no one was there to help him,well maybe sivash but he didnt do much,if marcus was there he would of done something

[BB22]

Originally posted by shash
What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

I agree entirely, shash. My views on Freddie have gone up and down a little over the course of the show but that was just painful to watch. Nobody has had to put up with more in that House and just as it seemed he had come through it not only have things turned against him but he has been knifed in the back by Bea.

It really was cruel.

[BB22]

Originally posted by jet
I am disgusted at Bea. Her emotional bullying of Halfwit and his reaction to it made for the most painful viewing of the series. I dislike Halfwit, as you all know HA! but it is not pleasant to see anyone hurting like that. I was going to vote for him loads to leave this week, but now I won't be voting at all.
I'll be waiting for Bea....then I'm gonna pounce!

I think that was a post of some considerable integrity. Good on you.

[charmingmissc]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by shash
What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

I agree entirely, shash. My views on Freddie have gone up and down a little over the course of the show but that was just painful to watch. Nobody has had to put up with more in that House and just as it seemed he had come through it not only have things turned against him but he has been knifed in the back by Bea.


:thumbs:

i partly want him to go , to get him away from bea.

then he can step back and see for himself what she is like.

but then i want him to stay, so that the others will realise he

still has support from us.

i also want marcus to stay :conf2:


what a shite choice to make.

:puzzled:

It really was cruel.

[mcka]

Bea is also a liar... she tried to deny she had said all those nasty things... absolutely lied straight to his face :rolleyes:

[HBB1508]

Originally posted by shash
What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

This is exactly how I felt - that was truely awful and if that's what passes for entertainment then I don't know what the world is coming to. As for George Lamb saying it was funny - that was equally disgusting. BB has sunk to an all time low in my opinion.

[fitz2k2]

i looked up negativity and i found a picture of bea lol

[Jintyrocks]

What it DID show apart from her vindictiveness and lies was the compassion Marcus showed, and how astute he was when talking to Bea about it.

Do they forget that cameras record everything?

[BB22]

Originally posted by Jintyrocks
What it DID show apart from her vindictiveness and lies was the compassion Marcus showed, and how astute he was when talking to Bea about it.

Do they forget that cameras record everything?

Very true. Although obviously Bea does not care. In fact it was interesting to observe how self-centred her reactions were even as Marcus tried to reason with her.

[rapunzal77]

She is such a nasty vile woman as I said yesterday!

I hope everyone in the house shuns the bint.


........how upset was I when I switched on she is cutting sbout in my favourite tshirt :(
Beeeeeatch

[Combo]

Originally posted by shash
What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

Agreed, totally.

[PooBay]

Watching Bea stick the boot into Freddie wasn't very pleasant at all - she's a thoroughly vile individual.

The sooner that muntering ***** is out, the better.

[HERBERTSTOWN]

Yes is was uncomfortable to see this on our TV'S, But Freedie is no Saint when it come's to Insulting People, He has done the same to Lisa & David many times before, Because he had back up from Marcus.

He claims to be on the verge of panic attack one minute, And the next minute, He his laughing with Marcus when BB spoke to the HM'S about the freedom of speaking openly about nomination's :angel: Don't think so

[Absolutely_Silly]

I agree with this post. I found it horrible to watch and found Bea to be vile and crewl. In the beginning I liked her, but over the past few days and last night I now really dislike her and find her very calculating.

[fix]

freddie is weak bea and is a *****g b!tch. i hope the other morons realze they have the plague among them before it's too late.

[Kazanne]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
I LOVED it ! I love Bea from now on, I'm glad she stood up against Freddie, it was needed.
It was the Freddie show last night, that was pure fake and comedy, it was dreadful but at the same time hilarious because I can't stand him at ALL.

Would you laugh if a member of YOUR family was on the end of that cruel tirade......mmmmm looking at some of your posts,you probably would:yuk: You and Bea sound like a match made in heaven

[hennessy]

Bea has got me raging and I hope she gets the biggest boos in BB history

[albie]

IT WAS EFFING HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bouncy:

IS there someway I can hear it again? His tone of voice was rib crackingly funny. I was in stitches. He sounded like Miss Marple on helium.

He lived in Camp Bea for long enough and now he got burned. He deserves it. I bet all the Freddie Bea fans are becoming anti Bea now. HAHAH. Now you see her as we do.

[BBBabe]

[BBBabe]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Bea has got me raging and I hope she gets the biggest boos in BB history

I agree and maybe a placard or two thrown at her:hugesmile:

[Slothy]

It was so uncomfortable to watch. Mainly because up until the end of the show Halfwit was still trying to apologize to the cow; which he had no reason to do, his thoughts about her are totally correct. I want Freddie to stay this week now, and then be up next week against this bitch. Her patronizing tone, the way she is so judgmental and hates negativity, yet every conversation is her pointing out flaws in others, be it Lisa to start with then David and now Halfwit. Her game plan is to play up to the majority group and reinforce their negative thoughts about one of the outsiders to that group, making sure she is safe from nomination. I just want someone to stand up to the bitch, she is controlling the place.

And she totally did say everything freddie said, he had it right word for word. I do think she could be up next week if Marcus goes. Maybe Siavash with freddie, but I've got everything crossed its her v Freddie.. and then in the interview show get someone on with Davina who will put her in her place. Meh, I'd rather have a sniper waiting on the BB house roof, but thats a tad extreme, just a tad, mind (:

[hotspur95]

anyone who didn't feel sorry for Freddy must have a heart of steel!
He's a bit weird but his reaction looked genuine to me.

It reminds me a bit of Ashleyne a few years ago. Spent a lot time in tears and divided opinion on the forums

[rsefitpro2009]

Bea was a disgrace last night, she is nasty and vile, and even though Freddie has his faults in some of his behaviour in the house, nobody deserves to be treated like that.

What alarms me the most is how BB are really letting this go on, i think they need to take action and deal with this, as this isn't pleasent viewing, viewers don't want too see that!

[albie]

I start to feel sorry then I hear him saying "DUUUDE!" to Charlie and saying"I'm not being voted out, I'm safe, DUUUDE!" And I see him laughing idiotically in Lisa and Dave's faces.

He's a bully. Feck him. I hope he does have a total mental breakdown. Save us from this twat of a potential politician.

[albie]

HAHAHHA. That black glittery scarf on his face. HAHAHAHAHHA! What a funny prick.

[loomy]

Where can I watch this? Is it that clip on the website where he's in bed and trying to talk to Bea?

Because that was quite funny. But I'm getting from these posts that it was worse than that?

[Hedgie]

I know i'm a Marcus fan, and obviously i want him to stay, but i do mean this sympathetically, and not from a Marcus to gain perspective. Is Freddie well enough to stay in there? BB are editing the program in Freddies favour and i wonder if that is very responsible of them. Surely he should leave, or even more idealistically, they should boot Beatch out on her arse, the vile cow. To keep Freddie in the house with such a harpy is irresponsible and cruel.

[Slothy]

He did suffer worse when it was Karrly, Kris and Lisa bullying him, but this time it is from someone who he did see as a friend. Bea doesn't care for anyone in there, that shows from how quick she'll jump into team Lisa after saying how much she disliked her. To be honest, for me, bea has taken the crown for most hated BB contestant ever. Its at the stage where I'm too angry to watch. Send Tom back in, he was the only person who called her out and was spot on with his evaluation.

[Marc]

Originally posted by shash
What a truly uncomfortable highlights that was to watch, I hope that whoever we like and dislike in the house, that we all felt some genuine sympathy for Freddie tonight. I found it truly disturbing to watch his near breakdown, and then Bea cold-hearted enough to mock his speech after attacking all the core values he holds dear :sad:

It was cruel. Nobody should have to endure that on tv.
I would feel the same whichever housemate this was.

I found Freddie's "break down" very uncomfortable to watch... how fake can one person be

[Twilight]

I was upset,you could tell it wasn't fake, you can't fake something like that.
People that will have said hes faking it are sick he looked like he was having breakdown PEOPLE! and she just acted like a stuck up little bitch:bored:

[Slothy]

The thing that got me was when she went back in to talk to him, she wasn't doing it for freddie, it was to make sure she covered herself as she knew that would probably make the h/l show.

[maggiepip]

What that cow in there is using on freddie is a form of mind control, the most dangerous psycological bullying tool you can use on someone.

The manipulative way she argues her point renders the brain too confused and stressed to fight back until the spirit is broken completely and the victim submits into believing they are wrong all the time.

Thank god he seemed to start realising SHE was wrong just in time.

Last night was the grand finale with freddie, she has been working on him for days with this method.

[Slothy]

Originally posted by maggiepip
What that cow in there is using on freddie is a form of mind control, the most dangerous psycological bullying tool you can use on someone.

The manipulative way she argues her point renders the brain too confused and stressed to fight back until the spirit is broken completely and the victim submits into believing they are wrong all the time.

Thank god he seemed to start realising SHE was wrong just in time.

Last night was the grand finale with freddie, she has been working on him for days with this method.

Spot on, my friend. You've nailed it. That type of intelligent bullying is enough to take anyone down. I'd rather take a full on punch to the face than have that sort of focused, mental beat down.

[p7ped]

He got what was coming to him.
remember last week when he thought he was untouchable and the arrogant way he spoke to Lisa and Charlie.

The friends he chose will quickly turn against him now.

[maggiepip]

Thanks slothy ---- and he did not get what was coming to him p7ped.

Freddie isnt perfect like all human beings and he can be a bit of an idiot sometime s but he does not set out to destroy people. And please cast your mind back to the way Lisa treated him for weeks, or have you forgotton?

[Phymo9]

Originally posted by Tom
Not uncomfortable and part of his game plan


What? You obviously have the same mind set as Bea. Get treatment quickly.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by Phymo9
Originally posted by Tom
Not uncomfortable and part of his game plan


What? You obviously have the same mind set as Bea. Get treatment quickly.

That statement doesn't make sense!

If the poster believes that it was all an act and just part of a gameplan - then they would have no reason to be upset would they? And therefore not require any 'treatment'!

[BB22]

Some people will think he was faking.

Some people simply like watching people suffer.

Some people like watching people suffer but will say they thought he was faking because they do not want to admit they like watching people suffer.

Such is the way of the world.

[stickydatepudding]

It was horrible to watch. Had me in tears for the second night running. Maybe I'm too emotionally involved, but I really don't like seeing someone being broken and trodden on like that. Do they really think that's good viewing?

[fredrica]

Originally posted by BB22
Some people will think he was faking.

Some people simply like watching people suffer.

Some people like watching people suffer but will say they thought he was faking because they do not want to admit they like watching people suffer.

Such is the way of the world.

I know some people make me wonder. However Freddie has people crying they have complained to C4 about it and OFCOM apparently.

Some have even complained about George and Opik too.

As you say such is the world.

[loomy]

Originally posted by stickydatepudding
It was horrible to watch. Had me in tears for the second night running. Maybe I'm too emotionally involved, but I really don't like seeing someone being broken and trodden on like that. Do they really think that's good viewing?
Oh come on; broken and trodden on? He got rejected by some girl he's known like 3 weeks. He clearly hasn't faced much adversity in his life if that's all it takes to 'break' him.

Bea has been unfairly dehumanised on these boards. She's not actually the evil incarnation of satan she just prefers not to spend time with Freddie anymore because he's annoying. It's not her fault he totally overreated, she didn't know he would react that way and even went back to say she hadn't meant to upset him so much. And tbf I wouldn't expect anyone to react that way either unless something really bad had happened

[setanta]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by stickydatepudding
It was horrible to watch. Had me in tears for the second night running. Maybe I'm too emotionally involved, but I really don't like seeing someone being broken and trodden on like that. Do they really think that's good viewing?
Oh come on; broken and trodden on? He got rejected by some girl he's known like 3 weeks. He clearly hasn't faced much adversity in his life if that's all it takes to 'break' him.

Bea has been unfairly dehumanised on these boards. She's not actually the evil incarnation of satan she just prefers not to spend time with Freddie anymore because he's annoying. It's not her fault he totally overreated, she didn't know he would react that way and even went back to say she hadn't meant to upset him so much. And tbf I wouldn't expect anyone to react that way either unless something really bad had happened

He's reacting to the fact that he's lost an ally and his power has slowly diminished. She's played him and he's now angry and sad over the whole affair because it puts him in a weakened position in terms of the game. That's the crux of the matter and that's what led to the overreaction on his part.

[fredrica]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by stickydatepudding
It was horrible to watch. Had me in tears for the second night running. Maybe I'm too emotionally involved, but I really don't like seeing someone being broken and trodden on like that. Do they really think that's good viewing?
Oh come on; broken and trodden on? He got rejected by some girl he's known like 3 weeks. He clearly hasn't faced much adversity in his life if that's all it takes to 'break' him.

Bea has been unfairly dehumanised on these boards. She's not actually the evil incarnation of satan she just prefers not to spend time with Freddie anymore because he's annoying. It's not her fault he totally overreated, she didn't know he would react that way and even went back to say she hadn't meant to upset him so much. And tbf I wouldn't expect anyone to react that way either unless something really bad had happened

If you knew what he had faced then you would not have said that.

Bea knows from watching the show which buttons to push.
Bea has a qulification in Psychology so she is really playing him.
What we saw was someone laughing at someone who was stuttering which is an extension of his probs., when under pressure.

Bea knows this yet she went ahead and systematically continued with her nastiness.

I feel sorry for Bea sad woman.

[Prole]

Originally posted by albie
I start to feel sorry then I hear him saying "DUUUDE!" to Charlie and saying"I'm not being voted out, I'm safe, DUUUDE!" And I see him laughing idiotically in Lisa and Dave's faces.

He's a bully. Feck him. I hope he does have a total mental breakdown. Save us from this t*** of a potential politician.

So the five weeks of relentless singling-out he went through at the start is just forgotten because he laughed in the face of Lisa. LISA! The woman who has been back-stabbing him since the start? The woman who loomed over him with her finger in his face telling him to stay away from her then sang really loudly over him while he was trying to get her to talk through things like an adult. THAT Lisa?

And to say you hope he hase a total mental breakdown makes you look sound like a monster or a kid... the jury's out as to which.

[loomy]

Originally posted by fredrica
Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by stickydatepudding
It was horrible to watch. Had me in tears for the second night running. Maybe I'm too emotionally involved, but I really don't like seeing someone being broken and trodden on like that. Do they really think that's good viewing?
Oh come on; broken and trodden on? He got rejected by some girl he's known like 3 weeks. He clearly hasn't faced much adversity in his life if that's all it takes to 'break' him.

Bea has been unfairly dehumanised on these boards. She's not actually the evil incarnation of satan she just prefers not to spend time with Freddie anymore because he's annoying. It's not her fault he totally overreated, she didn't know he would react that way and even went back to say she hadn't meant to upset him so much. And tbf I wouldn't expect anyone to react that way either unless something really bad had happened

If you knew what he had faced then you would not have said that.

Bea knows from watching the show which buttons to push.
Bea has a qulification in Psychology so she is really playing him.
What we saw was someone laughing at someone who was stuttering which is an extension of his probs., when under pressure.

Bea knows this yet she went ahead and systematically continued with her nastiness.

I feel sorry for Bea sad woman.
Oh jesus, having a pyschology degree does not make you into some mastermind of manipulation and torture. Most of it is just theories and history of pyschology. She's just born that way she didn't learn how to act this way and she certainly isn't employing any emotional bullying techniques that she will have learned in her university days.

[Diiiiiiiinamite]

I felt quite uncomfortable watching last night, it took me back a few weeks when the other h/mates were ganging up mercilessly on Halfwit and I don't think he was upset because Bea had rejected him, I think it was because of the way she has twisted recent conversations and situations regarding him to her own advantage and to be honest she could probably do it to any h/mate of her choosing, but its his turn to be singled out by her. She is very very articulate and she really has made Halfwit look like a halfwit. Each time he tried to defend his words and actions she shot him down in flames, she was not at all interested in what he was trying to say.

[BBmassive]

I feel another "pity winner"coming on ....how sad and how predictable :sleep::sleep:

[fredrica]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by fredrica
Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by stickydatepudding
It was horrible to watch. Had me in tears for the second night running. Maybe I'm too emotionally involved, but I really don't like seeing someone being broken and trodden on like that. Do they really think that's good viewing?
Oh come on; broken and trodden on? He got rejected by some girl he's known like 3 weeks. He clearly hasn't faced much adversity in his life if that's all it takes to 'break' him.

Bea has been unfairly dehumanised on these boards. She's not actually the evil incarnation of satan she just prefers not to spend time with Freddie anymore because he's annoying. It's not her fault he totally overreated, she didn't know he would react that way and even went back to say she hadn't meant to upset him so much. And tbf I wouldn't expect anyone to react that way either unless something really bad had happened

If you knew what he had faced then you would not have said that.

Bea knows from watching the show which buttons to push.
Bea has a qulification in Psychology so she is really playing him.
What we saw was someone laughing at someone who was stuttering which is an extension of his probs., when under pressure.

Bea knows this yet she went ahead and systematically continued with her nastiness.

I feel sorry for Bea sad woman.
Oh jesus, having a pyschology degree does not make you into some mastermind of manipulation and torture. Most of it is just theories and history of pyschology. She's just born that way she didn't learn how to act this way and she certainly isn't employing any emotional bullying techniques that she will have learned in her university days.

YOU are right it does not make you a psychologist and that is my point she thinks she is.
Her behaviour has been learnt in early childhood habituation.
I was watching her talking to Lisa last night and she said hen at work she would tell people exactly what she thought of them which resulting in her being given her cards.

Thank your for your post.:wink:

[shash]

Originally posted by BB22
Some people will think he was faking.

Some people simply like watching people suffer.

Some people like watching people suffer but will say they thought he was faking because they do not want to admit they like watching people suffer.

Such is the way of the world.

Sadly this is very true. And interestingly, one or two in the faker camp come across as rather cruel and spiteful, going so much further than simply offering their thoughts that he was faking.

[fredrica]

Originally posted by shash
Originally posted by BB22
Some people will think he was faking.

Some people simply like watching people suffer.

Some people like watching people suffer but will say they thought he was faking because they do not want to admit they like watching people suffer.

Such is the way of the world.

Sadly this is very true. And interestingly, one or two in the faker camp come across as rather cruel and spiteful, going so much further than simply offering their thoughts that he was faking.

I agree this their way of oking it with themselves.

Still we cannot all be th e same.:hello:

[h33]

I agree with most of the anti-Bea sentiment here but the one thing I have an issue with is reference to her intelligence. I don't actually think she's that intelligent..she talks a load of ar$e as far as I'm concerned. But I do think she's devious and cunning and there's little else to her.

[shash]

Originally posted by h33
I agree with most of the anti-Bea sentiment here but the one thing I have an issue with is reference to her intelligence. I don't actually think she's that intelligent..she talks a load of ar$e as far as I'm concerned. But I do think she's devious and cunning and there's little else to her.

Agreed! :thumbs: Not only does she spout some utter rubbish but she is very closed in her opinions, not receptive to different views at all. Witness her conversation with Marcus about the internet. Sweeping generalisations and dismissiveness is not a sign of high intellect, nor is it a sign of a hippy or a bohemian life. She appears to only like to hear the same views and thoughts that she herself shares. Still, she does talk with an air of great confidence and that has obviously served her well, even if it is nonsense that she speaks with confidence.