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jet
12-08-2009, 12:10 AM
My honest opinion is that I think Freddie thought he could go into the house and use his ‘superior’ intelligence to outwit fellow HM’s and put in a running commentary of his ‘observations’ of them and their actions to influence the public. He wants to go into politics - what better way to show he was astute, on - the - ball intellectually and a good candidate for a political career?
He under - estimated the down to earth and street wise smarts of the HM’s who hadn’t experienced the benefits of his superior education and privileged lifestyle.
What we are seeing is Freddie’s value system and belief in it being peeled away, layer by layer. It started a long time before Bea came in. His condescension and arrogance were all too apparent, and it got the backs up of most of the HM’s who were nominating him week after week. He managed to take on board how he was irritating people and cranked it back a notch, but he couldn’t let go of his ‘game plan’ and feelings of being cleverer than the rest of them. But by this stage he was getting paranoid, and paranoia has been a large part of his downfall in the house. He managed to co - exist with everyone though, because in his mind the people who didn’t ‘get him’ were inferior to him.
Then, when Bea arrived, and he thought he had found an ‘ally’ in her, his cockiness once again rose to the surface. The night he mocked and taunted Lisa and tried to degrade David was a glimpse of a Freddie that people didn’t recognize - and many didn’t like it. Then when someone of his own class and on an intellectual par with him (Bea) showed her disdain of him, this was the final blow. He could accept disdain and maybe even what he seen as envy from people he regarded as below him in social status, but not from someone who he considered as his equal. That was too much for him to take.

The bottom line is I don’t think Freddie was ever a confident, positive or happy person. I think he felt that he was a fish out of water because his upbringing gave him a certain protection and he wanted to ‘mix’ with the ‘common people’ to give him an insight into their lives to further his ‘political aspirations’. (Which were doomed from the start).
Well, he’s mixed with them now, and I think he will come out of the BB house liking the common people more than when he went in. It will be good for him.

ANTCOLONY
12-08-2009, 12:15 AM
freddy is a ****
like him to stay but
marcus is more important to the show:elephant:

arsenalforever
12-08-2009, 12:17 AM
:joker: Freddie is staying now and might even win it thanks to Bea

siavashmmm
12-08-2009, 12:18 AM
your essay is more boring than Beas haircut and less original than sophies twins.

HarryRag
12-08-2009, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by jet
My honest opinion is that I think Freddie thought he could go into the house and use his ‘superior’ intelligence to outwit fellow HM’s and put in a running commentary of his ‘observations’ of them and their actions to influence the public. He wants to go into politics - what better way to show he was astute, on - the - ball intellectually and a good candidate for a political career?
He under - estimated the down to earth and street wise smarts of the HM’s who hadn’t experienced the benefits of his superior education and privileged lifestyle.
What we are seeing is Freddie’s value system and belief in it being peeled away, layer by layer. It started a long time before Bea came in. His condescension and arrogance were all too apparent, and it got the backs up of most of the HM’s who were nominating him week after week. He managed to take on board how he was irritating people and cranked it back a notch, but he couldn’t let go of his ‘game plan’ and feelings of being cleverer than the rest of them. But by this stage he was getting paranoid, and paranoia has been a large part of his downfall in the house. He managed to co - exist with everyone though, because in his mind the people who didn’t ‘get him’ were inferior to him.
Then, when Bea arrived, and he thought he had found an ‘ally’ in her, his cockiness once again rose to the surface. The night he mocked and taunted Lisa and tried to degrade David was a glimpse of a Freddie that people didn’t recognize - and many didn’t like it. Then when someone of his own class and on an intellectual par with him (Bea) showed her disdain of him, this was the final blow. He could accept disdain and maybe even what he seen as envy from people he regarded as below him in social status, but not from someone who he considered as his equal. That was too much for him to take.

The bottom line is I don’t think Freddie was ever a confident, positive or happy person. I think he felt that he was a fish out of water because his upbringing gave him a certain protection and he wanted to ‘mix’ with the ‘common people’ to give him an insight into their lives to further his ‘political aspirations’. (Which were doomed from the start).
Well, he’s mixed with them now, and I think he will come out of the BB house liking the common people more than when he went in. It will be good for him.

and you can stick that "essay" on your arse. now ****' off, and bye.

jet
12-08-2009, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by HarryRag
Originally posted by jet
My honest opinion is that I think Freddie thought he could go into the house and use his ‘superior’ intelligence to outwit fellow HM’s and put in a running commentary of his ‘observations’ of them and their actions to influence the public. He wants to go into politics - what better way to show he was astute, on - the - ball intellectually and a good candidate for a political career?
He under - estimated the down to earth and street wise smarts of the HM’s who hadn’t experienced the benefits of his superior education and privileged lifestyle.
What we are seeing is Freddie’s value system and belief in it being peeled away, layer by layer. It started a long time before Bea came in. His condescension and arrogance were all too apparent, and it got the backs up of most of the HM’s who were nominating him week after week. He managed to take on board how he was irritating people and cranked it back a notch, but he couldn’t let go of his ‘game plan’ and feelings of being cleverer than the rest of them. But by this stage he was getting paranoid, and paranoia has been a large part of his downfall in the house. He managed to co - exist with everyone though, because in his mind the people who didn’t ‘get him’ were inferior to him.
Then, when Bea arrived, and he thought he had found an ‘ally’ in her, his cockiness once again rose to the surface. The night he mocked and taunted Lisa and tried to degrade David was a glimpse of a Freddie that people didn’t recognize - and many didn’t like it. Then when someone of his own class and on an intellectual par with him (Bea) showed her disdain of him, this was the final blow. He could accept disdain and maybe even what he seen as envy from people he regarded as below him in social status, but not from someone who he considered as his equal. That was too much for him to take.

The bottom line is I don’t think Freddie was ever a confident, positive or happy person. I think he felt that he was a fish out of water because his upbringing gave him a certain protection and he wanted to ‘mix’ with the ‘common people’ to give him an insight into their lives to further his ‘political aspirations’. (Which were doomed from the start).
Well, he’s mixed with them now, and I think he will come out of the BB house liking the common people more than when he went in. It will be good for him.

and you can stick that "essay" on your arse. now ****' off, and bye.

Hit a nerve, did I? :whistle:

ANTCOLONY
12-08-2009, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by HarryRag
Originally posted by jet
My honest opinion is that I think Freddie thought he could go into the house and use his ‘superior’ intelligence to outwit fellow HM’s and put in a running commentary of his ‘observations’ of them and their actions to influence the public. He wants to go into politics - what better way to show he was astute, on - the - ball intellectually and a good candidate for a political career?
He under - estimated the down to earth and street wise smarts of the HM’s who hadn’t experienced the benefits of his superior education and privileged lifestyle.
What we are seeing is Freddie’s value system and belief in it being peeled away, layer by layer. It started a long time before Bea came in. His condescension and arrogance were all too apparent, and it got the backs up of most of the HM’s who were nominating him week after week. He managed to take on board how he was irritating people and cranked it back a notch, but he couldn’t let go of his ‘game plan’ and feelings of being cleverer than the rest of them. But by this stage he was getting paranoid, and paranoia has been a large part of his downfall in the house. He managed to co - exist with everyone though, because in his mind the people who didn’t ‘get him’ were inferior to him.
Then, when Bea arrived, and he thought he had found an ‘ally’ in her, his cockiness once again rose to the surface. The night he mocked and taunted Lisa and tried to degrade David was a glimpse of a Freddie that people didn’t recognize - and many didn’t like it. Then when someone of his own class and on an intellectual par with him (Bea) showed her disdain of him, this was the final blow. He could accept disdain and maybe even what he seen as envy from people he regarded as below him in social status, but not from someone who he considered as his equal. That was too much for him to take.

The bottom line is I don’t think Freddie was ever a confident, positive or happy person. I think he felt that he was a fish out of water because his upbringing gave him a certain protection and he wanted to ‘mix’ with the ‘common people’ to give him an insight into their lives to further his ‘political aspirations’. (Which were doomed from the start).
Well, he’s mixed with them now, and I think he will come out of the BB house liking the common people more than when he went in. It will be good for him.

and you can stick that "essay" on your arse. now ****' off, and bye.

HES ON YOUR SIDE, HARRY :rolleyes:

zukhov
12-08-2009, 12:23 AM
Pretty good opinion.

It is pretty obvious that Halfwit is totally self deluded, for example he genuinley thinks that he is musical and a good singer and that he is very attractive to women.

I think over this week we have seen the reason that Lisa and co disliked him. Halfwit is showing his frustrated side at the moment and I don't think he can handle it very well.

JustSkipIt
12-08-2009, 12:25 AM
I didn't agree with every point but, on the whole, I thought the OP was rather astute

Don't know what Harry's problem is though :conf:

zukhov
12-08-2009, 12:26 AM
Harry is an internet tough guy!

Twiggy
12-08-2009, 12:28 AM
I think that was a well thought out and balanced view.
Can you do one on Marcus now please, being as both are up for eviction.

LisaFan!
12-08-2009, 12:32 AM
I do think that any 24 year old man who bursts into a fit of tears, proclaims a panic attack and goes on and on about a trivial issue to the point of really irritating and distressing someone, indeed a woman, does have issues that need to be dealt with.

Yes he was upset at the end and I do think he was upset and in a bad head space. But it's his fault for over-analysing, irritating other HMs, bringing up the same topic over and over and not letting it go.

Bea only said he was negative and moved beds, hardly a death threat. And his diary room tears seemed very contrived to me.

I'm not one for sob stories, sympathy cards and playing the victim in front of a national audience though, so it depends what you're into.

Just IMO. :thumbs:

Tenantry
12-08-2009, 12:33 AM
I like Freddy but it was a good read of someones opinion. Could be right but Bea is a total bitch end of.

HarryRag
12-08-2009, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by zukhov
Harry is an internet tough guy!

oh, how many other accounts you have Dennissabre? i bet that you are using at least 5-7 of em right now. but dennis, when your dad ****ed you in the ass, did he say "i love you?"

HarryRag
12-08-2009, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by LisaFan!
I do think that any 24 year old man who bursts into a fit of tears, proclaims a panic attack and goes on and on about a trivial issue to the point of really irritating and distressing someone, indeed a woman, does have issues that need to be dealt with.

Yes he was upset at the end and I do think he was upset and in a bad head space. But it's his fault for over-analysing, irritating other HMs, bringing up the same topic over and over and not letting it go.

Bea only said he was negative and moved beds, hardly a death threat. And his diary room tears seemed very contrived to me.

I'm not one for sob stories, sympathy cards and playing the victim in front of a national audience though, so it depends what you're into.

Just IMO. :thumbs:

first post?

DrTheKay
12-08-2009, 12:37 AM
Your an imbecile and your 'opinion' is flawd. Freddie is Freddie, he likes to observe and make comments. Hes not doing it to be smart or anything, its just what he is interested in

Just like how Lisa is interested in causing a divide

Just like how Charlie likes to be two-faced

Just like how Bea likes to be a *****

If anything, Freddie has the best trait.

jet
12-08-2009, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by Twiggy
I think that was a well thought out and balanced view.
Can you do one on Marcus now please, being as both are up for eviction.


:xyxwave: Hi Twiggy!
Maybe I will tomorrow. I'm knackered! :bigsmile:

tutifruti
12-08-2009, 01:01 AM
Well thought out OP. I agree with most of your post.

Twiggy
12-08-2009, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by Twiggy
I think that was a well thought out and balanced view.
Can you do one on Marcus now please, being as both are up for eviction.


:xyxwave: Hi Twiggy!
Maybe I will tomorrow. I'm knackered! :bigsmile: Thanks Hunni :thumbs2: Have a good rest.

jet
12-08-2009, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by LisaFan!
I do think that any 24 year old man who bursts into a fit of tears, proclaims a panic attack and goes on and on about a trivial issue to the point of really irritating and distressing someone, indeed a woman, does have issues that need to be dealt with.

Yes he was upset at the end and I do think he was upset and in a bad head space. But it's his fault for over-analysing, irritating other HMs, bringing up the same topic over and over and not letting it go.

Bea only said he was negative and moved beds, hardly a death threat. And his diary room tears seemed very contrived to me.

I'm not one for sob stories, sympathy cards and playing the victim in front of a national audience though, so it depends what you're into.

Just IMO. :thumbs:

I am a Lisa fan too - I love her! :thumbs2:
Some people say that Lisa bullied Freddie, but I don't go along with that. I think she is just a down - to - earth, no nonsense Northern lass who couldn't tolerate his arrogance and posturing and playing the victim. .
Bea is a different story....she is innately cruel and is the type who worms her way into people's affections for her own gratification and benefit just to knock them down when they are no longer useful to her. She is so cruel that another person's vulnerability makes her smell blood and she tears them apart as as some kind of sinister hobby.

Was Freddie being over - dramatic? I don't know. I don't care. If he was it would still not excuse Bea from being so horrific.
Get that awful Bea person out of the house, pronto!

a_2009
12-08-2009, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by jet
My honest opinion is that I think Freddie thought he could go into the house and use his ‘superior’ intelligence to outwit fellow HM’s and put in a running commentary of his ‘observations’ of them and their actions to influence the public. He wants to go into politics - what better way to show he was astute, on - the - ball intellectually and a good candidate for a political career?
He under - estimated the down to earth and street wise smarts of the HM’s who hadn’t experienced the benefits of his superior education and privileged lifestyle.
What we are seeing is Freddie’s value system and belief in it being peeled away, layer by layer. It started a long time before Bea came in. His condescension and arrogance were all too apparent, and it got the backs up of most of the HM’s who were nominating him week after week. He managed to take on board how he was irritating people and cranked it back a notch, but he couldn’t let go of his ‘game plan’ and feelings of being cleverer than the rest of them. But by this stage he was getting paranoid, and paranoia has been a large part of his downfall in the house. He managed to co - exist with everyone though, because in his mind the people who didn’t ‘get him’ were inferior to him.
Then, when Bea arrived, and he thought he had found an ‘ally’ in her, his cockiness once again rose to the surface. The night he mocked and taunted Lisa and tried to degrade David was a glimpse of a Freddie that people didn’t recognize - and many didn’t like it. Then when someone of his own class and on an intellectual par with him (Bea) showed her disdain of him, this was the final blow. He could accept disdain and maybe even what he seen as envy from people he regarded as below him in social status, but not from someone who he considered as his equal. That was too much for him to take.

The bottom line is I don’t think Freddie was ever a confident, positive or happy person. I think he felt that he was a fish out of water because his upbringing gave him a certain protection and he wanted to ‘mix’ with the ‘common people’ to give him an insight into their lives to further his ‘political aspirations’. (Which were doomed from the start).
Well, he’s mixed with them now, and I think he will come out of the BB house liking the common people more than when he went in. It will be good for him.

good post mate, agree with some of what yer saying. :thumbs:

jet
12-08-2009, 01:22 AM
Thanks to those who gave me positive feedback and not insults! :kiss:

LisaFan!
12-08-2009, 01:26 AM
I wouldn't worry Jet. The forums attract the nerds and weirdos in the main, so expect them to like the nerds/weirdos/fakers/losers, because they are clinging on for dear life.

Charlie's 40, 000 + facebook fans vs 100 TiBB fans and 200 DS fans.

Hahahaha, I love the general wider vote and chav vote, always makes the legit people win. If they're popular generally, they're popular on BB.

Halfwit/Marcus/Siavash are a joke. They are short, ugly, hairy, pervy men who are nerdy, weird, obsessive and analyse EVERYTHING.

Nobody cares for them in real life, these types are laughed at by regular folk.

Charlie and Sophie are popular generally, they are the types people love to hang and chill with. In a nightclub, people go towards these. Because they are part of the cool gang, and always will be.

Nerds tend to run online, because they are ostracized from society, and smaller in number.

kisywisy
12-08-2009, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by jet
Thanks to those who gave me positive feedback and not insults! :kiss:

must be the least amount of insults you've had for a post jet!!:hugesmile:

i think your op was really good. might not have agreed on every single point, but the general idea i do. well done!! :thumbs2:

jet
12-08-2009, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by kisywisy
Originally posted by jet
Thanks to those who gave me positive feedback and not insults! :kiss:

must be the least amount of insults you've had for a post jet!!:hugesmile:

i think your op was really good. might not have agreed on every single point, but the general idea i do. well done!! :thumbs2:

Thanks! :xyxwave:

RCW1945
12-08-2009, 01:45 AM
Your "essay" was well constucted, fine for spelling and grammar but failed to recognize one very important fact.
Freddie has been, and it would seem remains, very popular with the viewers. These folk must contain a high proportion of the lower intelligence and social class than Freddie which you refer to amongst the HMs.
You make no attempt to analyse why this much larger sample have not reacted in the same way as the small sample in the house.

kisywisy
12-08-2009, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by RCW1945
Your "essay" was well constucted, fine for spelling and grammar but failed to recognize one very important fact.
Freddie has been, and it would seem remains, very popular with the viewers. These folk must contain a high proportion of the lower intelligence and social class than Freddie which you refer to amongst the HMs.
You make no attempt to analyse why this much larger sample have not reacted in the same way as the small sample in the house.

he's not that popular outside compaired to other hm

jet
12-08-2009, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by RCW1945
Your "essay" was well constucted, fine for spelling and grammar but failed to recognize one very important fact.
Freddie has been, and it would seem remains, very popular with the viewers. These folk must contain a high proportion of the lower intelligence and social class than Freddie which you refer to amongst the HMs.
You make no attempt to analyse why this much larger sample have not reacted in the same way as the small sample in the house.

Good point. I think initially he was popular with the public because he was so 'different' and a natural target for the others because of his privileged background - which he played on to the hilt as a 'victim', I believe.
He put on a 'laid back' and gentle front which was his suit of amour to shield himself from criticism, which we now know he can't handle well.
Many people like to root for the 'underdog' - and Freddie got it hard in the house because the people there were actually LIVING with him 24/7 and they were the ones who had to put up with his infuriating condescending and irritating manner - not the public.
I do think that the public now understand how the other HM's viewed him....but Bea has gone beyond the limits with her cruel exposure of his insecurities, to such an extent that it will maybe work in his favour.

moonballoon
12-08-2009, 04:55 AM
Brilliant thread ...

BB is now fascinating viewing, (I think) ... and thanks Jet for putting more articulately than I could many of my own views.

ange7
12-08-2009, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
:joker: Freddie is staying now and might even win it thanks to Bea
lol so Bea is responsible for his fall from grace and now is responsible for a boost in his popularity?

Love how Freddie fans pin the blame on everyone but Freddie.
"oooooo evil bea" lol

fallenkal
12-08-2009, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by jet
My honest opinion is that I think Freddie thought he could go into the house and use his ‘superior’ intelligence to outwit fellow HM’s and put in a running commentary of his ‘observations’ of them and their actions to influence the public. He wants to go into politics - what better way to show he was astute, on - the - ball intellectually and a good candidate for a political career?
He under - estimated the down to earth and street wise smarts of the HM’s who hadn’t experienced the benefits of his superior education and privileged lifestyle.
What we are seeing is Freddie’s value system and belief in it being peeled away, layer by layer. It started a long time before Bea came in. His condescension and arrogance were all too apparent, and it got the backs up of most of the HM’s who were nominating him week after week. He managed to take on board how he was irritating people and cranked it back a notch, but he couldn’t let go of his ‘game plan’ and feelings of being cleverer than the rest of them. But by this stage he was getting paranoid, and paranoia has been a large part of his downfall in the house. He managed to co - exist with everyone though, because in his mind the people who didn’t ‘get him’ were inferior to him.
Then, when Bea arrived, and he thought he had found an ‘ally’ in her, his cockiness once again rose to the surface. The night he mocked and taunted Lisa and tried to degrade David was a glimpse of a Freddie that people didn’t recognize - and many didn’t like it. Then when someone of his own class and on an intellectual par with him (Bea) showed her disdain of him, this was the final blow. He could accept disdain and maybe even what he seen as envy from people he regarded as below him in social status, but not from someone who he considered as his equal. That was too much for him to take.

The bottom line is I don’t think Freddie was ever a confident, positive or happy person. I think he felt that he was a fish out of water because his upbringing gave him a certain protection and he wanted to ‘mix’ with the ‘common people’ to give him an insight into their lives to further his ‘political aspirations’. (Which were doomed from the start).
Well, he’s mixed with them now, and I think he will come out of the BB house liking the common people more than when he went in. It will be good for him.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. Although I think the show will give a nice boost to his political career.

MrGaryy
12-08-2009, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by ANTCOLONY
Originally posted by HarryRag
Originally posted by jet
My honest opinion is that I think Freddie thought he could go into the house and use his ‘superior’ intelligence to outwit fellow HM’s and put in a running commentary of his ‘observations’ of them and their actions to influence the public. He wants to go into politics - what better way to show he was astute, on - the - ball intellectually and a good candidate for a political career?
He under - estimated the down to earth and street wise smarts of the HM’s who hadn’t experienced the benefits of his superior education and privileged lifestyle.
What we are seeing is Freddie’s value system and belief in it being peeled away, layer by layer. It started a long time before Bea came in. His condescension and arrogance were all too apparent, and it got the backs up of most of the HM’s who were nominating him week after week. He managed to take on board how he was irritating people and cranked it back a notch, but he couldn’t let go of his ‘game plan’ and feelings of being cleverer than the rest of them. But by this stage he was getting paranoid, and paranoia has been a large part of his downfall in the house. He managed to co - exist with everyone though, because in his mind the people who didn’t ‘get him’ were inferior to him.
Then, when Bea arrived, and he thought he had found an ‘ally’ in her, his cockiness once again rose to the surface. The night he mocked and taunted Lisa and tried to degrade David was a glimpse of a Freddie that people didn’t recognize - and many didn’t like it. Then when someone of his own class and on an intellectual par with him (Bea) showed her disdain of him, this was the final blow. He could accept disdain and maybe even what he seen as envy from people he regarded as below him in social status, but not from someone who he considered as his equal. That was too much for him to take.

The bottom line is I don’t think Freddie was ever a confident, positive or happy person. I think he felt that he was a fish out of water because his upbringing gave him a certain protection and he wanted to ‘mix’ with the ‘common people’ to give him an insight into their lives to further his ‘political aspirations’. (Which were doomed from the start).
Well, he’s mixed with them now, and I think he will come out of the BB house liking the common people more than when he went in. It will be good for him.

and you can stick that "essay" on your arse. now ****' off, and bye.

HES ON YOUR SIDE, HARRY :rolleyes:

ahahaha. this is precisely the reason tibb is so tremendously **** for BB discussion as it is peppered with immature twats with poor grammar and a tendency to get so involved with the housemates that they create a divide with people who disagree with them

zukhov
12-08-2009, 06:58 AM
BB is more likley to kill his political carreer than to enhance it.

mother6
12-08-2009, 07:46 AM
Agree with your observations Jet.

WOMBAI
12-08-2009, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by jet
My honest opinion is that I think Freddie thought he could go into the house and use his ‘superior’ intelligence to outwit fellow HM’s and put in a running commentary of his ‘observations’ of them and their actions to influence the public. He wants to go into politics - what better way to show he was astute, on - the - ball intellectually and a good candidate for a political career?
He under - estimated the down to earth and street wise smarts of the HM’s who hadn’t experienced the benefits of his superior education and privileged lifestyle.
What we are seeing is Freddie’s value system and belief in it being peeled away, layer by layer. It started a long time before Bea came in. His condescension and arrogance were all too apparent, and it got the backs up of most of the HM’s who were nominating him week after week. He managed to take on board how he was irritating people and cranked it back a notch, but he couldn’t let go of his ‘game plan’ and feelings of being cleverer than the rest of them. But by this stage he was getting paranoid, and paranoia has been a large part of his downfall in the house. He managed to co - exist with everyone though, because in his mind the people who didn’t ‘get him’ were inferior to him.
Then, when Bea arrived, and he thought he had found an ‘ally’ in her, his cockiness once again rose to the surface. The night he mocked and taunted Lisa and tried to degrade David was a glimpse of a Freddie that people didn’t recognize - and many didn’t like it. Then when someone of his own class and on an intellectual par with him (Bea) showed her disdain of him, this was the final blow. He could accept disdain and maybe even what he seen as envy from people he regarded as below him in social status, but not from someone who he considered as his equal. That was too much for him to take.

The bottom line is I don’t think Freddie was ever a confident, positive or happy person. I think he felt that he was a fish out of water because his upbringing gave him a certain protection and he wanted to ‘mix’ with the ‘common people’ to give him an insight into their lives to further his ‘political aspirations’. (Which were doomed from the start).
Well, he’s mixed with them now, and I think he will come out of the BB house liking the common people more than when he went in. It will be good for him.

Well said! I have said much the same in other threads and agree with every word you say!!:thumbs:

HERBERTSTOWN
12-08-2009, 07:56 AM
VERY GOOD OP, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, DO ONE ON MARCUS NOW.
THERE'S AN OLD SAYING, IF YOU WANT TO GET TO KNOW ME COME AND LIVE WITH ME,WELL THANKS BUT NO THANKS FREDDIE, NOT IN THE BB HOUSE, OR THE OUTSIDE WORLD
:thumbs:::thumbs:

WOMBAI
12-08-2009, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by jet
My honest opinion is that I think Freddie thought he could go into the house and use his ‘superior’ intelligence to outwit fellow HM’s and put in a running commentary of his ‘observations’ of them and their actions to influence the public. He wants to go into politics - what better way to show he was astute, on - the - ball intellectually and a good candidate for a political career?
He under - estimated the down to earth and street wise smarts of the HM’s who hadn’t experienced the benefits of his superior education and privileged lifestyle.
What we are seeing is Freddie’s value system and belief in it being peeled away, layer by layer. It started a long time before Bea came in. His condescension and arrogance were all too apparent, and it got the backs up of most of the HM’s who were nominating him week after week. He managed to take on board how he was irritating people and cranked it back a notch, but he couldn’t let go of his ‘game plan’ and feelings of being cleverer than the rest of them. But by this stage he was getting paranoid, and paranoia has been a large part of his downfall in the house. He managed to co - exist with everyone though, because in his mind the people who didn’t ‘get him’ were inferior to him.
Then, when Bea arrived, and he thought he had found an ‘ally’ in her, his cockiness once again rose to the surface. The night he mocked and taunted Lisa and tried to degrade David was a glimpse of a Freddie that people didn’t recognize - and many didn’t like it. Then when someone of his own class and on an intellectual par with him (Bea) showed her disdain of him, this was the final blow. He could accept disdain and maybe even what he seen as envy from people he regarded as below him in social status, but not from someone who he considered as his equal. That was too much for him to take.

The bottom line is I don’t think Freddie was ever a confident, positive or happy person. I think he felt that he was a fish out of water because his upbringing gave him a certain protection and he wanted to ‘mix’ with the ‘common people’ to give him an insight into their lives to further his ‘political aspirations’. (Which were doomed from the start).
Well, he’s mixed with them now, and I think he will come out of the BB house liking the common people more than when he went in. It will be good for him.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. Although I think the show will give a nice boost to his political career.

What political career? Don't get me wrong - I do feel for Freddie - he isn't a bad person - but he has been arrogant!

He simply doesn't have what it takes to be a successful politician - it is one of the bitchiest and most back-stabbing of professions - he would never survive!!

Excellent communication skills are essential for politicians - as is the ability to remain calm and think quickly!

He needs to re-think his future plans!

WOMBAI
12-08-2009, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by LisaFan!
I wouldn't worry Jet. The forums attract the nerds and weirdos in the main, so expect them to like the nerds/weirdos/fakers/losers, because they are clinging on for dear life.

Charlie's 40, 000 + facebook fans vs 100 TiBB fans and 200 DS fans.

Hahahaha, I love the general wider vote and chav vote, always makes the legit people win. If they're popular generally, they're popular on BB.

Halfwit/Marcus/Siavash are a joke. They are short, ugly, hairy, pervy men who are nerdy, weird, obsessive and analyse EVERYTHING.

Nobody cares for them in real life, these types are laughed at by regular folk.

Charlie and Sophie are popular generally, they are the types people love to hang and chill with. In a nightclub, people go towards these. Because they are part of the cool gang, and always will be.

Nerds tend to run online, because they are ostracized from society, and smaller in number.

Very good! You took the words from my mouth - and probably many others!:thumbs:

Except do like Siavash - although disappointed in some of his behaviour! Still trying to give him the benefit of the doubt!

Entervoice
12-08-2009, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by siavashmmm
your essay is more boring than Beas haircut and less original than sophies twins. lol

RCW1945
13-08-2009, 12:30 PM
Jet
I have to say that I admire your writing style and the cool reasoned points you put forward, a charateristic sadly lacking on this board.
However, that does not stop me disagreeing with your interpretation of the Freddie situation.
"Many people like to root for the 'underdog' - and Freddie got it hard in the house because the people there were actually LIVING with him 24/7 and they were the ones who had to put up with his infuriating condescending and irritating manner - not the public."
This assumes that he was "infuriating......." rather than the others found him so because they were bewildered and overawed by a person who was outside their usual experience. Their only reaction to this stressful situation was to attack his person.
I did not find his behaviour during the first five weeks to involve any of the faults which you listed. Furthermore the public votes would suggest that my view is the one supported by the majority.
By the way, as I explained on another thread (Why do I like Freddie?), Freddie's background etc makes him a very unlikely recipient of my support.