why did marcus turn against siavash

[meadow]

why did marcus turn against siavash by telling freddie that siavash was making him (freddie) paronoid and not to listen to his advice. i though they were mates.

[ash1977]

He didn't turn on anyone - he simply said it as he saw it. Siavash was the first of the 3 rebels to say sorry. A calculated action knowing the people can only use 2 votes in the diary room - thus saving his slimy ass yet again.

Marcus is a no bullshit, straight talking kind of guy.

[tas666]

Originally posted by ash1977
He didn't turn on anyone - he simply said it as he saw it. Siavash was the first of the 3 rebels to say sorry. A calculated action knowing the people can only use 2 votes in the diary room - thus saving his slimy ass yet again.

Marcus is a no bullshit, straight talking kind of guy.

I think Marcus has never forgiven Siavash for NorinGate!

[charmingmissc]

Originally posted by ash1977
He didn't turn on anyone - he simply said it as he saw it. Siavash was the first of the 3 rebels to say sorry. A calculated action knowing the people can only use 2 votes in the diary room - thus saving his slimy ass yet again.

Marcus is a no bullshit, straight talking kind of guy.

:thumbs:

[Captain.Remy]

Both my favourites housemates but I didn't get why Marcus would say that. But then, we don't live with them so things may have happened which we haven't seen.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yeh well out of order Im going to vote for him to be evicted now, I wasnt going to bother this week but thats a few times hes tried to turn people against the Vash now!

[Entervoice]

Originally posted by meadow
why did marcus turn against siavash by telling freddie that siavash was making him (freddie) paronoid and not to listen to his advice. i though they were mates. Marcus has lost the plot

[fitz2k2]

everyone bang out of order lol

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by meadow
why did marcus turn against siavash by telling freddie that siavash was making him (freddie) paronoid and not to listen to his advice. i though they were mates.

I think Marcus bears grudges and has been biding his time to get his own back on Siavash for the Noirin business!

He has never forgiven him and probably never will!!

[jadore212]

i think he was mad because siavash say sorry but marcus tell roddie and dogface that it was saivash break the ruke not he by turning down the speaker i think the rest of them have a soft spot for saivash so if he break a rule they will quickly for give him than marcus and marcus dont like that but marcus would of been up this week any way because from last week lisa and david want him to go because they say he is the leader

[BB22]

Not Marcus' finest hour.

[Myammy]

I just saw it, as Marcus giving Halfwit some good advice, watch out for Siavash,
he will appear to be doing and saying the right thing to anyone, but this is not neccessarily so.
He just wants to be seen as the good guy all of the time...
And I like Siavash,
but I can see how he goes from one to the other ar** licking.

[Captain.Remy]

At the end of the day, it's a game and Siavash well understood that. It's everyone for themselves, the finale is near and it's time to play individual. Siavash apologising was maybe not genuine but it was a great move resulting in him not being nominated after what happened last week. He's very clever and knows what to do at what time.

[Caramel77]

Originally posted by meadow
why did marcus turn against siavash by telling freddie that siavash was making him (freddie) paronoid and not to listen to his advice. i though they were mates.

Yeah this surprised me quite a bit too. Especially when Siavash was giving freddie good advice about Bea. Guess Marcus as usual likes being in control and he wants to be in control of Freddie...?:puzzled:

[shaudenfreud]

Its dawned on marcus that siavash could actually win and thats why I reckon. Thats one thing marcus doesnt want........

[Combo]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
At the end of the day, it's a game and Siavash well understood that. It's everyone for themselves, the finale is near and it's time to play individual. Siavash apologising was maybe not genuine but it was a great move resulting in him not being nominated after what happened last week. He's very clever and knows what to do at what time.

Is that not called a game plan?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by BB22
Not Marcus' finest hour.

Agreed...

[stickydatepudding]

I think Marcus was just looking out for Freddie, but I think he's wrong about Siavash. It came from a good place though - wanting to help his friend adjust in the house.

[lawther1979]

I think Marcus has never forgiven Siavash for Norin because he toiled everyone he had a girlfreind and then he dose belive what saivish says

[Kazanne]

Must admit I was a bit bemused at that although I like Siavash ,as a friend I think I would trust Marcus more he seems to genuinely like Freddie

[srsbsns]

I think its because he likes being Freddie's advisor and didn't like it that Sia was giving good advice and after freddie was very appreciative. Marcus is one of my favorite hms but he likes to be in control of the people he likes. Thats why he also said 'im the only one you can trust freddie' at the end.

[luminoussun]

Because he has seen how siavash has gone around behind there backs smoothing it over kissing the gay squad's asses.
If he would of took it on the chin with marcus and freddie he would of split the vote.But he talks rebel in the bedroom and is sorry in the garden 2 seconds later.
He started the jail break and suggested doing it and always tries to get them all not to vote.But all the time kissing bootey and not wanting to go at all...it shows when he is up for eviction...he looks like he is straining for a sh1t he is so worried

[ross-oaft]

I think he's waited to turn against Siavash after the Noirin situation.

[jadore212]

i think it might be a slim chance of a twist because yesterday on bb site they wanted to know wat people think about the new twist and they put the same question again today i think they relise the fans are not happy

[Ham]

Siavash is a shrewd, sly, smarmy, sleazy, soulless, scheming, shifty, slimy, slippery, sneaky, snidey, shady, shallow, s**t-stirring, smuggish, sickeningly self-pitying, slitheringly snake-like scumbag and the scourge of BB10


(and has about as much fashion sense as a primary school for the mentally disadvantage playing dress up)

Hmph :mad:

[tutifruti]

Originally posted by srsbsns
I think its because he likes being Freddie's advisor and didn't like it that Sia was giving good advice and after freddie was very appreciative. Marcus is one of my favorite hms but he likes to be in control of the people he likes. Thats why he also said 'im the only one you can trust freddie' at the end. I agree.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by tas666
Originally posted by ash1977
He didn't turn on anyone - he simply said it as he saw it. Siavash was the first of the 3 rebels to say sorry. A calculated action knowing the people can only use 2 votes in the diary room - thus saving his slimy ass yet again.

Marcus is a no bullshit, straight talking kind of guy.

I think Marcus has never forgiven Siavash for NorinGate!

Thats what I think as well. Marcus does seem to speak alot of sense and to be fair alot of the time he is spot on but I think his judgement is clouded on Siavash over the Noirin fiasco!!

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by tutifruti
Originally posted by srsbsns
I think its because he likes being Freddie's advisor and didn't like it that Sia was giving good advice and after freddie was very appreciative. Marcus is one of my favorite hms but he likes to be in control of the people he likes. Thats why he also said 'im the only one you can trust freddie' at the end. I agree.

LOL, yeah, He jumped up and stormed after Freddie the minute he finished his conversation with Siavash didn't he haha!!

[nickc25]

Marcus just says things how he sees them and 99% the time he is spot on too.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by luminoussun
Because he has seen how siavash has gone around behind there backs smoothing it over kissing the gay squad's asses.
If he would of took it on the chin with marcus and freddie he would of split the vote.But he talks rebel in the bedroom and is sorry in the garden 2 seconds later.
He started the jail break and suggested doing it and always tries to get them all not to vote.But all the time kissing bootey and not wanting to go at all...it shows when he is up for eviction...he looks like he is straining for a sh1t he is so worried

I don't see why Siavsah apologising to people for getting their food taken away is "Kissing their asses" I think he was dead right to do that and Marcus should have as well. Freddie also apologised for it!

[camaleon]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
At the end of the day, it's a game and Siavash well understood that. It's everyone for themselves, the finale is near and it's time to play individual. Siavash apologising was maybe not genuine but it was a great move resulting in him not being nominated after what happened last week. He's very clever and knows what to do at what time.

The HM also asked F and M to apologise but they didn't, they took a nasty aptitude, so it was a choice that everybody had...

[shaz20]

Originally posted by Caramel77
Originally posted by meadow
why did marcus turn against siavash by telling freddie that siavash was making him (freddie) paronoid and not to listen to his advice. i though they were mates.

Yeah this surprised me quite a bit too. Especially when Siavash was giving freddie good advice about Bea. Guess Marcus as usual likes being in control and he wants to be in control of Freddie...?:puzzled:
Yep "trust no one but me" yeh he said that to another housemate if I recall. Control freak.:shrug:

[cassieparis]

Revenge (Siavash) and to isolate Freddie.
Marcus needs to feel in charge of both of them.
Power hunger is a massive motivation for him hence the superheroe nonsense that fans regard humorously.
I now think his initial attack on Lisa was because she made him feel inadequate and powerless with her supposed influence over others.

[BBAroudtheGlobe]

I certainly thought he turned on him and I was a big shocked by it. I understand it was just Marcus' opinion, but it was a wrong one.

[h33]

I was wondering was it maybe part of his plot to get turfed out this week. I might be just looking for the best in him....I don't want him to turn on Siavash...
:conf:

[ziltan]

As Marcus said about Siavash "he wants to please everyone", and he does! Siavash is a snake but he isn't as bad as those in the other group. Like roddy, dogface, charlie, lisa and david aka "the double-cross group".

[Lowkey]

Because marcus is a hater, he cant handle the s-man gets chicks.