Why did they cut freddie having a panic attack out of the repeat? [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Why is everyone saying Freddie had a panic attack?

I don't believe he had a panic attack - he was just very upset - they are not the same thing!

I think everyone is being very dramatic!!

We believe he did. Thats why.

Only people who dont like freddie are doubting that it was a panic attack.:rolleyes: Wonder why that is...

Certainly seemed like a panic attack. Maybe a mild one, but still a panic attack.

If he didnt, they wouldnt have cut it out this morning would they? Surely they are allowed to show someone being upset. they already had...

Actually I am not speaking as a Freddie 'hater' - I am speaking as a nurse!

Funny how all these nurses etc. come crawling out of the woodwork now isnt it? The amount of qualified psychologists/doctors/nurses etc we have had on here since last night is unbelievable :rolleyes:

Happigail

12-08-2009, 08:48 AM

I cant believe anyone would doubt that he had a panic attack, or that people can have grown so cynical about someone else obviously in distress :(

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Happigail
I cant believe anyone would doubt that he had a panic attack, or that people can have grown so cynical about someone else obviously in distress :(

Ridiculous isnt it?

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by xmynxiex
I think they got flooded with complaints.

I thought this might be the reason.

Or it was classed as distressing to watch, but I think the whole arguement was quite distressing.

To the people who said he was faking it, do you really think they would cut out an 'obviously fake panic attack'?

Sorry Vicky, a non convincing arguement, they would cut a fake panic attack if they thought it would stress or upset younger members of the audience. Even if they knew it was fake, they have even cut arguements where voices were raised before.

I meant to the people who were saying it was so obviously fake it was laughable...surely if anyone could laugh at it, it wouldnt be distressing...plus they showed quite a lot of the whole thing, except him actually saying her voice was stressing him...was well weird...

rhijack

12-08-2009, 08:57 AM

Panic attacks are subjective and individual to the person it is happening to - if he felt like he was panicking it was REAL for him - irrespective of whether it fits someone elses very rigid view of what a panic attack entails!

Shasown

12-08-2009, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by Happigail
I cant believe anyone would doubt that he had a panic attack, or that people can have grown so cynical about someone else obviously in distress :(

Is it possible that someone can pretend to have a panic attack?

Is it possible that Freddie has seen someone suffering a panic attack and decided to play for sympathy?

Is it possible that Freddie has simply fooled a lot of people?

I am not saying he has or he hasn't

I seem to recall him saying something about not wanting her even in the same room as her voice would cause him to have panic attacks.

WOMBAI

12-08-2009, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Why is everyone saying Freddie had a panic attack?

I don't believe he had a panic attack - he was just very upset - they are not the same thing!

I think everyone is being very dramatic!!

We believe he did. Thats why.

Only people who dont like freddie are doubting that it was a panic attack.:rolleyes: Wonder why that is...

Certainly seemed like a panic attack. Maybe a mild one, but still a panic attack.

If he didnt, they wouldnt have cut it out this morning would they? Surely they are allowed to show someone being upset. they already had...

Actually I am not speaking as a Freddie 'hater' - I am speaking as a nurse!

Funny how all these nurses etc. come crawling out of the woodwork now isnt it? The amount of qualified psychologists/doctors/nurses etc we have had on here since last night is unbelievable :rolleyes:

If I wanted to 'show-off' or something - I would of said that I am a doctor - but I am actually a nurse - I have mentioned it before on a thread!

Think what you like - but from my knowledge and experience on the subject - I do not believe he had a panic attack!

I don't think he was acting - he was very upset - although Freddie does have a tendency to overreact! He often takes deep breaths before he speaks and has difficulty getting the words out - they do not mean he was having a panic attack!

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by Happigail
I cant believe anyone would doubt that he had a panic attack, or that people can have grown so cynical about someone else obviously in distress :(

Is it possible that someone can pretend to have a panic attack?

Is it possible that Freddie has seen someone suffering a panic attack and decided to play for sympathy?

Is it possible that Freddie has simply fooled a lot of people?

I am not saying he has or he hasn't

I seem to recall him saying something about not wanting her even in the same room as her voice would cause him to have panic attacks.

It is possible but ridiculously unlikely that someone would go to those extremes to win an arguement.

Or as people claim, to win the sympathy vote. He has no reason to try and do this anyway, he already believes he is winning the show(after being told this), as his cocky behaviour has proved on numerous occasions.

Plus he was a damn good actor if how he was behaving was faked, he should be a movie star, seriously.

davidalbert

12-08-2009, 09:03 AM

...the morning BB repeat is on at childrens tv time..the night one after the 9pm watershed....so they have to cut the morning one for children alot.......

WAYNEEBRUM

12-08-2009, 09:20 AM

i didnt watch the repeat i felt really bad for him.Bea really is a hurtful,heartless person.

Adamw92

12-08-2009, 09:22 AM

Most likely the distressing explaination you said....I actually felt like turning off the TV, it was not good to watch

Shasown

12-08-2009, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ

It is possible but ridiculously unlikely that someone would go to those extremes to win an arguement.

Or as people claim, to win the sympathy vote. He has no reason to try and do this anyway, he already believes he is winning the show(after being told this), as his cocky behaviour has proved on numerous occasions.

Plus he was a damn good actor if how he was behaving was faked, he should be a movie star, seriously.

Extremes? Isnt going into the BB house for 3 months to win 100 grand an extreme?

He doesnt know he is winning the popular vote, he assumes, some of Beas words will have struck true she told him he was fake, he has at times been fake so if Bea can see it he may assume the public may have seen through it, she did say she thought he was nice when she came into the house but her eyes had been opened to the real him.

What acting, hiding under a duvet having tears in red rimmed eyes and panting in a dramatic way.

Sorry what Bea did and say to him, was quite nasty but I believe he was faking it.

What about his dramatic portrayal of the words she used on him when she went back into the bedroom to see how he was after Rodders had asked her to?

"YOU so did ,YOU called me a negative little man"

And why say "her voice WILL give me panic attacks" as opposed to "she IS giving me panic attacks"

At times of high emotions, be they forced or real the truth is often let out. I have three children the oldest is now in his twenties and Freddie acted like a teenager running on emotions when told something they didnt want to hear.

maggiepip

12-08-2009, 09:23 AM

Anyone who says freddie was acting a panic attack or other people are being dramatic should be ashamed of themselves and obviously lack emotional intelligence.

What happened last night to freddie is an absolute disgrace and anyone with an ounce of empathy would be able to see how she was driving him to crack.

She manipulated everything she said (she also completely projects as what she says about freddie discribes herself perfectly) to strip freddie and everytime he tried to talk she continued to bring up things in a way which totally confused him.

He wanted to speak reasonably about one issue and she goes back to a different issue with her same cruel terrorising language. She deliberately confused his head and rendered him to a point he couldnt even think never mind fight back and defend himself.

This is a method of mind control and designed deliberately to kill someones spirit and completely scramble thier head to break them. She knew exactly what she was doing.

She should have been removed from the house. This woman is a very dangerous person.

I have had an experience like freddie last night, and believe me a panic attack is the minimum result.

This person should be ordered to leave the house.

charmingmissc

12-08-2009, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by WAYNEEBRUM
i didnt watch the repeat i felt really bad for him.Bea really is a hurtful,heartless person.

i agree.

:thumbs:

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by VickyJ

It is possible but ridiculously unlikely that someone would go to those extremes to win an arguement.

Or as people claim, to win the sympathy vote. He has no reason to try and do this anyway, he already believes he is winning the show(after being told this), as his cocky behaviour has proved on numerous occasions.

Plus he was a damn good actor if how he was behaving was faked, he should be a movie star, seriously.

Extremes? Isnt going into the BB house for 3 months to win 100 grand an extreme?

He doesnt know he is winning the popular vote, he assumes, some of Beas words will have struck true she told him he was fake, he has at times been fake so if Bea can see it he may assume the public may have seen through it, she did say she thought he was nice when she came into the house but her eyes had been opened to the real him.

What acting, hiding under a duvet having tears in red rimmed eyes and panting in a dramatic way.

Sorry what Bea did and say to him, was quite nasty but I believe he was faking it.

What about his dramatic portrayal of the words she used on him when she went back into the bedroom to see how he was after Rodders had asked her to?

"YOU so did ,YOU called me a negative little man"

And why say "her voice WILL give me panic attacks" as opposed to "she IS giving me panic attacks"

There was a lot cut out inbetween shots, I thought he had said your voice IS giving me panic attacks...guess I misheard. I actually believe he was getting over the panic attack during that shot...and was resting when Bea reentered the room.

At times of high emotions, be they forced or real the truth is often let out. I have three children the oldest is now in his twenties and Freddie acted like a teenager running on emotions when told something they didnt want to hear.

I dont know, he can be overdramatic at times...I know.

I believe though that the reason he did this was because he couldnt believe how she was trying to twist everything AGAIN...trying to take back things that she had indeed said. She didnt say the exact words 'negative little man', she just said he was negative, but she did say the rest of the stuff that she was denying...

You know when he firmly believes something he goes into full shakespearian mode...for reasons unknown, he is a bit weird in that way.

If someone was blatantly lying in my face, i would find it extremely hard not to jump up and knock them out to be honest...so it is possible he was feeling slightly like that...he was trying not to scream at her, would make sense, he was talking through gritted teeth...

WOMBAI

12-08-2009, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by maggiepip
Anyone who says freddie was acting a panic attack or other people are being dramatic should be ashamed of themselves and obviously lack emotional intelligence.

What happened last night to freddie is an absolute disgrace and anyone with an ounce of empathy would be able to see how she was driving him to crack.

She manipulated everything she said (she also completely projects as what she says about freddie discribes herself perfectly) to strip freddie and everytime he tried to talk she continued to bring up things in a way which totally confused him.

He wanted to speak reasonably about one issue and she goes back to a different issue with her same cruel terrorising language. She deliberately confused his head and rendered him to a point he couldnt even think never mind fight back and defend himself.

This is a method of mind control and designed deliberately to kill someones spirit and completely scramble thier head to break them. She knew exactly what she was doing.

She should have been removed from the house. This woman is a very dangerous person.

I have had an experience like freddie last night, and believe me a panic attack is the minimum result.

This person should be ordered to leave the house.

Who are you to say people who disagree with you should be ashamed of themselves and lack emotional intelligence?

Maybe your blind hate of Bea is clouding your judgement?

She may not be the most likeable person - but Freddie is a very emotionally demanding person and would emotionally drain anyone!

She is not 'dangerous' - don't get so carried away - it is a gameshow afterall!

maggiepip

12-08-2009, 09:53 AM

To COMMONSENSE - my hatred to bea is not clouding my judgement, and I have eveery right to say "people who think freddie is acting" should be ashamed of themselves.

What I watched last night was no "game show" and anyway the whole programme is designed to bring out the true colours in people.

The_Long_Run

12-08-2009, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

If I wanted to 'show-off' or something - I would of said that I am a doctor - but I am actually a nurse - I have mentioned it before on a thread!

Think what you like - but from my knowledge and experience on the subject - I do not believe he had a panic attack!

I don't think he was acting - he was very upset - although Freddie does have a tendency to overreact! He often takes deep breaths before he speaks and has difficulty getting the words out - they do not mean he was having a panic attack!

No they mean he has been taught how to cope with or avoid panic attacks. The taught techniques is given the acronym WASP (Wait, Absorb, Slowly Proceed). This is part of a coping strategy called Neuro-Linguistic Programming, often used to help dylexics deal with their problem.

It was very unfortunate that Rodrigo, well meaning as he was, sent Bea back in to Freddie when he was in the ABSORB phase, trying to regain control of a developing panic attack. Bea did not intend to provoke Freddie, she was herself trying to deal with heightened anxiety.

Freddie was in a panic attack episode but was coping with it. Clearly it presented as distress, which is why the producers decided it was not suitable for broadcast on early morning television when children would be watching.

WOMBAI

12-08-2009, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

If I wanted to 'show-off' or something - I would of said that I am a doctor - but I am actually a nurse - I have mentioned it before on a thread!

Think what you like - but from my knowledge and experience on the subject - I do not believe he had a panic attack!

I don't think he was acting - he was very upset - although Freddie does have a tendency to overreact! He often takes deep breaths before he speaks and has difficulty getting the words out - they do not mean he was having a panic attack!

No they mean he has been taught how to cope with or avoid panic attacks. The taught techniques is given the acronym WASP (Wait, Absorb, Slowly Proceed). This is part of a coping strategy called Neuro-Linguistic Programming, often used to help dylexics deal with their problem.

It was very unfortunate that Rodrigo, well meaning as he was, sent Bea back in to Freddie when he was in the ABSORB phase, trying to regain control of a developing panic attack. Bea did not intend to provoke Freddie, she was herself trying to deal with heightened anxiety.

Freddie was in a panic attack episode but was coping with it. Clearly it presented as distress, which is why the producers decided it was not suitable for broadcast on early morning television when children would be watching.

You may or may not be right about Freddie trying to
pre-empt an attack - but neither you or I - or indeed anyone else on this forum - are qualified to say that!

The only person who knows the answer to that is his doctor!

For all any of us know he has never been diagnosed with panic attacks - who are you or anyone, other than a doctor - to say he had a panic attack!! People are speaking as if that is a fact - it is not a fact!

Even those who have been diagnosed with panic attacks or have children who have been diagnosed - cannot make a diagnosis on Freddie because he had similar symptoms!

There are always other possibilities - it requires a proper medical diagnosis from the relevant qualified professional!

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

If I wanted to 'show-off' or something - I would of said that I am a doctor - but I am actually a nurse - I have mentioned it before on a thread!

Think what you like - but from my knowledge and experience on the subject - I do not believe he had a panic attack!

I don't think he was acting - he was very upset - although Freddie does have a tendency to overreact! He often takes deep breaths before he speaks and has difficulty getting the words out - they do not mean he was having a panic attack!

No they mean he has been taught how to cope with or avoid panic attacks. The taught techniques is given the acronym WASP (Wait, Absorb, Slowly Proceed). This is part of a coping strategy called Neuro-Linguistic Programming, often used to help dylexics deal with their problem.

It was very unfortunate that Rodrigo, well meaning as he was, sent Bea back in to Freddie when he was in the ABSORB phase, trying to regain control of a developing panic attack. Bea did not intend to provoke Freddie, she was herself trying to deal with heightened anxiety.

Freddie was in a panic attack episode but was coping with it. Clearly it presented as distress, which is why the producers decided it was not suitable for broadcast on early morning television when children would be watching.

You may or may not be right about Freddie trying to
pre-empt an attack - but neither you or I - or indeed anyone else on this forum - are qualified to say that!

The only person who knows the answer to that is his doctor!

For all any of us know he has never been diagnosed with panic attacks - who are you or anyone, other than a doctor - to say he had a panic attack!! People are speaking as if that is a fact - it is not a fact!

Even those who have been diagnosed with panic attacks or have children who have been diagnosed - cannot make a diagnosis on Freddie because he had similar symptoms!

There are always other possibilities - it requires a proper medical diagnosis from the relevant qualified professional!

Yet YOU were qualified enough to say that he definately hadnt had a panic attack? :rolleyes:

The_Long_Run

12-08-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

If I wanted to 'show-off' or something - I would of said that I am a doctor - but I am actually a nurse - I have mentioned it before on a thread!

Think what you like - but from my knowledge and experience on the subject - I do not believe he had a panic attack!

I don't think he was acting - he was very upset - although Freddie does have a tendency to overreact! He often takes deep breaths before he speaks and has difficulty getting the words out - they do not mean he was having a panic attack!

No they mean he has been taught how to cope with or avoid panic attacks. The taught techniques is given the acronym WASP (Wait, Absorb, Slowly Proceed). This is part of a coping strategy called Neuro-Linguistic Programming, often used to help dylexics deal with their problem.

It was very unfortunate that Rodrigo, well meaning as he was, sent Bea back in to Freddie when he was in the ABSORB phase, trying to regain control of a developing panic attack. Bea did not intend to provoke Freddie, she was herself trying to deal with heightened anxiety.

Freddie was in a panic attack episode but was coping with it. Clearly it presented as distress, which is why the producers decided it was not suitable for broadcast on early morning television when children would be watching.

You may or may not be right about Freddie trying to
pre-empt an attack - but neither you or I - or indeed anyone else on this forum - are qualified to say that!

The only person who knows the answer to that is his doctor!

For all any of us know he has never been diagnosed with panic attacks - who are you or anyone, other than a doctor - to say he had a panic attack!! People are speaking as if that is a fact - it is not a fact!

Even those who have been diagnosed with panic attacks or have children who have been diagnosed - cannot make a diagnosis on Freddie because he had similar symptoms!

There are always other possibilities - it requires a proper medical diagnosis from the relevant qualified professional!

Next time I see someone knocked down by a car, before I offer any evidence as a witness to the police, I shall ask the person's doctor whether that is what happened shall I? If I see someone with a nose bleed, I'll ring their doctor and tell him/her that there is blood coming out of the person's nose, could he come and diagnose whether the person is having a nose bleed?

Freddie was in an elevated anxiety episode which is diagnosed as an 'anxiety attack' based upon the presenting symptoms. I stand by my diagnosis and I also saw some of the classic taught responses being exhibitted. The vocalisations often emitted by Freddie the 'ooohs, aaahs, mmmms' are also typical taught responses for those suffering from dyslexia which compromises cognitive precessing. The downside is that it makes them appear somewhat eccentric to judgemental observers but it allows them to function.

muchadoaboutnothing

12-08-2009, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Why is everyone saying Freddie had a panic attack?

I don't believe he had a panic attack - he was just very upset - they are not the same thing!

I think everyone is being very dramatic!!

That deffinately was a panic attack of sorts. I have had, unfortunately, many of them and they are one of the worst thing anyone can experience. Freddie didn't have a full blown one but the signs were there add to the fact that there was no escape. Trapped in the bedroom in the house with all sorts of things going through your head and feeling isolated and alone are all part of a panic attack. And they can happen at any moment, anywhere, with the click of a finger. Recovering from them is also a very daunting experience. Yes he was very upset which is why he had the attack.

WOMBAI

12-08-2009, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

If I wanted to 'show-off' or something - I would of said that I am a doctor - but I am actually a nurse - I have mentioned it before on a thread!

Think what you like - but from my knowledge and experience on the subject - I do not believe he had a panic attack!

I don't think he was acting - he was very upset - although Freddie does have a tendency to overreact! He often takes deep breaths before he speaks and has difficulty getting the words out - they do not mean he was having a panic attack!

No they mean he has been taught how to cope with or avoid panic attacks. The taught techniques is given the acronym WASP (Wait, Absorb, Slowly Proceed). This is part of a coping strategy called Neuro-Linguistic Programming, often used to help dylexics deal with their problem.

It was very unfortunate that Rodrigo, well meaning as he was, sent Bea back in to Freddie when he was in the ABSORB phase, trying to regain control of a developing panic attack. Bea did not intend to provoke Freddie, she was herself trying to deal with heightened anxiety.

Freddie was in a panic attack episode but was coping with it. Clearly it presented as distress, which is why the producers decided it was not suitable for broadcast on early morning television when children would be watching.

You may or may not be right about Freddie trying to
pre-empt an attack - but neither you or I - or indeed anyone else on this forum - are qualified to say that!

The only person who knows the answer to that is his doctor!

For all any of us know he has never been diagnosed with panic attacks - who are you or anyone, other than a doctor - to say he had a panic attack!! People are speaking as if that is a fact - it is not a fact!

Even those who have been diagnosed with panic attacks or have children who have been diagnosed - cannot make a diagnosis on Freddie because he had similar symptoms!

There are always other possibilities - it requires a proper medical diagnosis from the relevant qualified professional!

Next time I see someone knocked down by a car, before I offer any evidence as a witness to the police, I shall ask the person's doctor whether that is what happened shall I? If I see someone with a nose bleed, I'll ring their doctor and tell him/her that there is blood coming out of the person's nose, could he come and diagnose whether the person is having a nose bleed?

Freddie was in an elevated anxiety episode which is diagnosed as an 'anxiety attack' based upon the presenting symptoms. I stand by my diagnosis and I also saw some of the classic taught responses being exhibitted. The vocalisations often emitted by Freddie the 'ooohs, aaahs, mmmms' are also typical taught responses for those suffering from dyslexia which compromises cognitive precessing. The downside is that it makes them appear somewhat eccentric to judgemental observers but it allows them to function.

Ridiculous analogy - knocked down by a car, nose bleed - hardly the same!

As I said - I deal in facts - if bb say, that after consultation with a doctor - they can confirm he had a 'panic attack' - then he had a panic attack! Until then - the jury is out as far as I am concerned!

BBmassive

12-08-2009, 10:32 AM

Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

WOMBAI

12-08-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

If I wanted to 'show-off' or something - I would of said that I am a doctor - but I am actually a nurse - I have mentioned it before on a thread!

Think what you like - but from my knowledge and experience on the subject - I do not believe he had a panic attack!

I don't think he was acting - he was very upset - although Freddie does have a tendency to overreact! He often takes deep breaths before he speaks and has difficulty getting the words out - they do not mean he was having a panic attack!

No they mean he has been taught how to cope with or avoid panic attacks. The taught techniques is given the acronym WASP (Wait, Absorb, Slowly Proceed). This is part of a coping strategy called Neuro-Linguistic Programming, often used to help dylexics deal with their problem.

It was very unfortunate that Rodrigo, well meaning as he was, sent Bea back in to Freddie when he was in the ABSORB phase, trying to regain control of a developing panic attack. Bea did not intend to provoke Freddie, she was herself trying to deal with heightened anxiety.

Freddie was in a panic attack episode but was coping with it. Clearly it presented as distress, which is why the producers decided it was not suitable for broadcast on early morning television when children would be watching.

You may or may not be right about Freddie trying to
pre-empt an attack - but neither you or I - or indeed anyone else on this forum - are qualified to say that!

The only person who knows the answer to that is his doctor!

For all any of us know he has never been diagnosed with panic attacks - who are you or anyone, other than a doctor - to say he had a panic attack!! People are speaking as if that is a fact - it is not a fact!

Even those who have been diagnosed with panic attacks or have children who have been diagnosed - cannot make a diagnosis on Freddie because he had similar symptoms!

There are always other possibilities - it requires a proper medical diagnosis from the relevant qualified professional!

Yet YOU were qualified enough to say that he definately hadnt had a panic attack? :rolleyes:

Don't put words in my mouth - read the post properly!

I did not say he definitely had NOT had a panic attack - I said - I did not believe he had had a panic attack!!

You are the one making assumptions - not me!

shash

12-08-2009, 10:37 AM

It was quite disturbing last night, and genuinely uncomfortable to watch, so that, coupled with the near certainty that they'd have had a lot of complaints about it yesterday, was probably the reason.
First time I've ever felt like complaining about a tv show, they let Bea continue too long and should at the very least have ordered her into another room. Neglect of housemates welfare some could call it.

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh:

nickc25

12-08-2009, 10:42 AM

They have recieved 90,000 complaints so that is probably the reason for it!!

BBmassive

12-08-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by nickc25
They have recieved 90,000 complaints so that is probably the reason for it!!

LOL I highly doubt that.

Dare I ask...source?:rolleyes:

BBmassive

12-08-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by nickc25
They have recieved 90,000 complaints so that is probably the reason for it!! source ?

BBmassive

12-08-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by nickc25
They have recieved 90,000 complaints so that is probably the reason for it!!

LOL I highly doubt that.

Dare I ask...source?:rolleyes: 90,000 ?:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:: laugh3::laugh3:

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

The difference being though, that there is much more likely to be a lot of 'panic attackers' on the forum than qualified doctors etc.

Plus im sure I recall you saying you suffered panic attacks also...:conf:

The_Long_Run

12-08-2009, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

As I said - I deal in facts - if bb say, that after consultation with a doctor - they can confirm he had a 'panic attack' - then he had a panic attack! Until then - the jury is out as far as I am concerned!

Doctors collect a set of symptoms and then come to a view (NOT a fact) that what they are seeing is a panic attack. Sufficent presenting symptoms lead them to believe (on the balance of probability they are dealing with a panic attack.

What a wonderful black and white world you must live in where there are only facts. You must NEVER have to make a difficult decision, weighing the competing evidence.

As Nietsche said "There are no facts only perpectives".

BBmassive

12-08-2009, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

The difference being though, that there is much more likely to be a lot of 'panic attackers' on the forum than qualified doctors etc.

Plus im sure I recall you saying you suffered panic attacks also...:conf: I had one ,when i got on a plane for the first time ,i ended up getting off and have not been on one since !! but last night it just got a tad silly on here

setanta

12-08-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

The difference being though, that there is much more likely to be a lot of 'panic attackers' on the forum than qualified doctors etc.

Plus im sure I recall you saying you suffered panic attacks also...:conf:

You're still going on and on about panic attacks when it was just a guy getting upset and angry over the betrayal of a woman and from seeing his position within the house diminish as a result. That's all it was..... you're letting hatred of Bea persuade you into thinking that everything Freddie said was truth.

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

The difference being though, that there is much more likely to be a lot of 'panic attackers' on the forum than qualified doctors etc.

Plus im sure I recall you saying you suffered panic attacks also...:conf:

You're still going on and on about panic attacks when it was just a guy getting upset and angry over the betrayal of a woman and from seeing his position within the house diminish as a result. That's all it was..... you're letting hatred of Bea persuade you into thinking that everything Freddie said was truth.

You have just proved my point.

And I dont hate bea at all.

CaudleHalbard

12-08-2009, 10:55 AM

Why did they cut freddie having a panic attack out of the repeat?

Because the sponsors (Lucozade) probably complained!

Cynical? Moi? :bigsmile:

setanta

12-08-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

The difference being though, that there is much more likely to be a lot of 'panic attackers' on the forum than qualified doctors etc.

Plus im sure I recall you saying you suffered panic attacks also...:conf:

You're still going on and on about panic attacks when it was just a guy getting upset and angry over the betrayal of a woman and from seeing his position within the house diminish as a result. That's all it was..... you're letting hatred of Bea persuade you into thinking that everything Freddie said was truth.

You have just proved my point.

And I dont hate bea at all.

Ah, you don't like her though... fairly obvious from past posts. And the guy was just upset but was still coherent and functioning. His power of influence is gone now and that drove him to self pity and anger..... sure look at the anger in his face when he spoke to her on the last occassion. It's like this forum has turned into a crisis hotline or something.... absolutely mental.

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

The difference being though, that there is much more likely to be a lot of 'panic attackers' on the forum than qualified doctors etc.

Plus im sure I recall you saying you suffered panic attacks also...:conf:

You're still going on and on about panic attacks when it was just a guy getting upset and angry over the betrayal of a woman and from seeing his position within the house diminish as a result. That's all it was..... you're letting hatred of Bea persuade you into thinking that everything Freddie said was truth.

You have just proved my point.

And I dont hate bea at all.

Ah, you don't like her though... fairly obvious from past posts. And the guy was just upset but was still coherent and functioning. His power of influence is gone now and that drove him to self pity and anger..... sure look at the anger in his face when he spoke to her on the last occassion. It's like this forum has turned into a crisis hotline or something.... absolutely mental.
Well I cant reply because apparently me discussing my opinion is me trying to force my views on others...this is apparently the new logic applied to this forum :rolleyes:

And no i dont particularly like her recently...but i certainly dont hate her.

setanta

12-08-2009, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

The difference being though, that there is much more likely to be a lot of 'panic attackers' on the forum than qualified doctors etc.

Plus im sure I recall you saying you suffered panic attacks also...:conf:

You're still going on and on about panic attacks when it was just a guy getting upset and angry over the betrayal of a woman and from seeing his position within the house diminish as a result. That's all it was..... you're letting hatred of Bea persuade you into thinking that everything Freddie said was truth.

You have just proved my point.

And I dont hate bea at all.

Ah, you don't like her though... fairly obvious from past posts. And the guy was just upset but was still coherent and functioning. His power of influence is gone now and that drove him to self pity and anger..... sure look at the anger in his face when he spoke to her on the last occassion. It's like this forum has turned into a crisis hotline or something.... absolutely mental.
Well I cant reply because apparently me discussing my opinion is me trying to force my views on others...this is apparently the new logic applied to this forum :rolleyes:

And no i dont particularly like her recently...but i certainly dont hate her.

Come on Vicky, you can be very strongly opionated and are quick to react to anyone right now who suggests that this was nothing more than an angry and frustrated young man who's seen his main ally switch sides, thereby shifting the balance of power within the house.

Freddie is a bright guy and he knows what's just occured. She's a crazy and vindictive young lady who would stab anyone in the back to get into the final..... think that was fairly evident 2 or 3 days ago for the viewers and for Freddie. This is just Freddies growing realisation that Lisa's back.

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

The difference being though, that there is much more likely to be a lot of 'panic attackers' on the forum than qualified doctors etc.

Plus im sure I recall you saying you suffered panic attacks also...:conf:

You're still going on and on about panic attacks when it was just a guy getting upset and angry over the betrayal of a woman and from seeing his position within the house diminish as a result. That's all it was..... you're letting hatred of Bea persuade you into thinking that everything Freddie said was truth.

You have just proved my point.

And I dont hate bea at all.

Ah, you don't like her though... fairly obvious from past posts. And the guy was just upset but was still coherent and functioning. His power of influence is gone now and that drove him to self pity and anger..... sure look at the anger in his face when he spoke to her on the last occassion. It's like this forum has turned into a crisis hotline or something.... absolutely mental.
Well I cant reply because apparently me discussing my opinion is me trying to force my views on others...this is apparently the new logic applied to this forum :rolleyes:

And no i dont particularly like her recently...but i certainly dont hate her.

Come on Vicky, you can be very strongly opionated and are quick to react to anyone right now who suggests that this was nothing more than an angry and frustrated young man who's seen his main ally switch sides, thereby shifting the balance of power within the house.

Freddie is a bright guy and he knows what's just occured. She's a crazy and vindictive young lady who would stab anyone in the back to get into the final..... think that was fairly evident 2 or 3 days ago for the viewers and for Freddie. This is just Freddies growing realisation that Lisa's back.

Whatever...Im sick of arguing with people who cant see the wood for the trees to be honest.

If you dont believe it, you dont believe it, but that doesnt say it didnt happen.

BBmassive

12-08-2009, 11:08 AM

spot on setanta :xyxwave:

WOMBAI

12-08-2009, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

As I said - I deal in facts - if bb say, that after consultation with a doctor - they can confirm he had a 'panic attack' - then he had a panic attack! Until then - the jury is out as far as I am concerned!

Doctors collect a set of symptoms and then come to a view (NOT a fact) that what they are seeing is a panic attack. Sufficent presenting symptoms lead them to believe (on the balance of probability they are dealing with a panic attack.

What a wonderful black and white world you must live in where there are only facts. You must NEVER have to make a difficult decision, weighing the competing evidence.

As Nietsche said "There are no facts only perpectives".

It is not me living in a 'black and white' world - it is others on this forum! I am the one saying that there are other possibilities - not just that he has or he hasn't!

So if a person is diagnosed as having say cancer and they have chemotherapy in an attempt to kill the cancer cells - that is not fact! You talk rubbish!

Freddie's dyslexia can't be fact then!

Forum members' diagnosed panic attacks are not fact!

A diagnosis - after all relevant tests and examinations have been made - is understood to be fact!

Don't play with words - we all know what is meant by fact!

CaudleHalbard

12-08-2009, 11:10 AM

Freddie's main panic is that he has lost popularity as a result of joining the Rebel Crew.

If he hadn't actually said he was having a panic attack one can easily imagine that people on here would be saying he's an "overacting tosser" - or words to that effect. :laugh:

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by BBmassive
spot on setanta :xyxwave:

I take it then, that basically everyone except me can bleat their views around then...however when I do it I am trying to force my views on others? I get it now. Cheers.

It is a case of anyone who agrees with you is right and 'allowed' to post their views, anyone who disagrees should just accept that others have an opinion.

I did have respect for you as a poster. Clearly I was wrong.

minx36

12-08-2009, 11:10 AM

Heck I only watched the repeat, I was appauled at what I saw!

Speachless...

bluehill

12-08-2009, 11:12 AM

i found it quite enjoyable. i mean it is bad to see someone brakedown, but its the bb house what do you expect. :tongue:

muchadoaboutnothing

12-08-2009, 11:16 AM

I agree with you VickyJ.

Tom

12-08-2009, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by xmynxiex
I think they got flooded with complaints.

I thought this might be the reason.

Or it was classed as distressing to watch, but I think the whole arguement was quite distressing.

To the people who said he was faking it, do you really think they would cut out an 'obviously fake panic attack'?

So they'll cut it out of the repeat because its distressing but they'll poke fun at it on BBLB? OK then.

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by xmynxiex
I think they got flooded with complaints.

I thought this might be the reason.

Or it was classed as distressing to watch, but I think the whole arguement was quite distressing.

To the people who said he was faking it, do you really think they would cut out an 'obviously fake panic attack'?

So they'll cut it out of the repeat because its distressing but they'll poke fun at it on BBLB? OK then.

What reason do you suggest?

I seriously made this thread because I didnt know why they would cut it...

setanta

12-08-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Same goes for vice versa. Others seem very set in the fact that he DID NOT have a panic attack of any form. This is why I feel the need to defend my views.

Plus, you would be amazed how many people have 'come out' as doctors and psychologists over the past 24 hours. :laugh: Unreal :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk: I was ready for ringing the Samaritians last night ,we had "panic attackers" coming out of the woodwrok,I felt quite left out ,NONE of us KNOW what did really happen ,but we all have our own ideas

The difference being though, that there is much more likely to be a lot of 'panic attackers' on the forum than qualified doctors etc.

Plus im sure I recall you saying you suffered panic attacks also...:conf:

You're still going on and on about panic attacks when it was just a guy getting upset and angry over the betrayal of a woman and from seeing his position within the house diminish as a result. That's all it was..... you're letting hatred of Bea persuade you into thinking that everything Freddie said was truth.

You have just proved my point.

And I dont hate bea at all.

Ah, you don't like her though... fairly obvious from past posts. And the guy was just upset but was still coherent and functioning. His power of influence is gone now and that drove him to self pity and anger..... sure look at the anger in his face when he spoke to her on the last occassion. It's like this forum has turned into a crisis hotline or something.... absolutely mental.
Well I cant reply because apparently me discussing my opinion is me trying to force my views on others...this is apparently the new logic applied to this forum :rolleyes:

And no i dont particularly like her recently...but i certainly dont hate her.

Come on Vicky, you can be very strongly opionated and are quick to react to anyone right now who suggests that this was nothing more than an angry and frustrated young man who's seen his main ally switch sides, thereby shifting the balance of power within the house.

Freddie is a bright guy and he knows what's just occured. She's a crazy and vindictive young lady who would stab anyone in the back to get into the final..... think that was fairly evident 2 or 3 days ago for the viewers and for Freddie. This is just Freddies growing realisation that Lisa's back.

Whatever...Im sick of arguing with people who cant see the wood for the trees to be honest.

If you dont believe it, you dont believe it, but that doesnt say it didnt happen.

Yes, what happened was Bea had a go at him but sure she's been doing this for a few days now... why has it suddenly affected him so much when clearly she was just as bad the night before? Think it was her moving bed that finalised the whole shift of power in the house and that's what led to Freddies rage and sadness.

She's a calculated and hateful young lady and I don't for one minute condone her behaviour in any of this; my problem is the reference to panic attacks thats grown like wild fire on this forum, which I can't see in anything that transpired last night.

WOMBAI

12-08-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
spot on setanta :xyxwave:

I take it then, that basically everyone except me can bleat their views around then...however when I do it I am trying to force my views on others? I get it now. Cheers.

It is a case of anyone who agrees with you is right and 'allowed' to post their views, anyone who disagrees should just accept that others have an opinion.

I did have respect for you as a poster. Clearly I was wrong.

You were speaking as if Freddie definitely had had a panic attack - people were just pointing out that you could not know that as a fact! Of course, you can have an opinion and believe that he probably had an attack - but you could not state it as a fact!

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
spot on setanta :xyxwave:

I take it then, that basically everyone except me can bleat their views around then...however when I do it I am trying to force my views on others? I get it now. Cheers.

It is a case of anyone who agrees with you is right and 'allowed' to post their views, anyone who disagrees should just accept that others have an opinion.

I did have respect for you as a poster. Clearly I was wrong.

You were speaking as if Freddie definitely had had a panic attack - people were just pointing out that you could not know that as a fact! Of course, you can have an opinion and believe that he probably had an attack - but you could not state it as a fact!

Was I quoting you?

The same people have also stated it as fact that freddie did not have a panic attack. My view is as valid as theirs and they are only saying what they said because they disagree with me. Fact.

Tom

12-08-2009, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by xmynxiex
I think they got flooded with complaints.

I thought this might be the reason.

Or it was classed as distressing to watch, but I think the whole arguement was quite distressing.

To the people who said he was faking it, do you really think they would cut out an 'obviously fake panic attack'?

So they'll cut it out of the repeat because its distressing but they'll poke fun at it on BBLB? OK then.

What reason do you suggest?

I seriously made this thread because I didnt know why they would cut it...

I don't know but if they genuinely found it that distressing they wouldn't have had George encouraging the audience to laugh at it

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Tom

I don't know but if they genuinely found it that distressing they wouldn't have had George encouraging the audience to laugh at it

Very true.

Its very confusing why they would do this...

Tom

12-08-2009, 11:31 AM

Was anything else missed out? I mean there was a lot of swearing so it might have just been easier to cut the whole bits out rather than going mad with the bleep machine

ElProximo

12-08-2009, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Tom

I don't know but if they genuinely found it that distressing they wouldn't have had George encouraging the audience to laugh at it

Very true.

Its very confusing why they would do this...

I suppose you find a lot of things in life to be confusing.
Often you find yourself thinking situations and things said are 'stupid' and 'don't make any sense'.
Much of the time you try and solve these with a sort of questioning line:
"So if __ is __ then why is __ like this or that?"
Many things you read 'make no sense whatsoever'.
About right?

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Tom

I don't know but if they genuinely found it that distressing they wouldn't have had George encouraging the audience to laugh at it

Very true.

Its very confusing why they would do this...

I suppose you find a lot of things in life to be confusing.
Often you find yourself thinking situations and things said are 'stupid' and 'don't make any sense'.
Much of the time you try and solve these with a sort of questioning line:
"So if __ is __ then why is __ like this or that?"
Many things you read 'make no sense whatsoever'.
About right?

Why do you feel they cut this particular part out then?

And no, I dont often find myself thinking things dont make sense. However since they showed this on BBLB which is before the watershead, i can find no reasoning as to cut if out this morning.

Vicky.

12-08-2009, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Tom
Was anything else missed out? I mean there was a lot of swearing so it might have just been easier to cut the whole bits out rather than going mad with the bleep machine

No there wasnt swearing that I remember...

BBmassive

12-08-2009, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
spot on setanta :xyxwave:

I take it then, that basically everyone except me can bleat their views around then...however when I do it I am trying to force my views on others? I get it now. Cheers.

It is a case of anyone who agrees with you is right and 'allowed' to post their views, anyone who disagrees should just accept that others have an opinion.

I did have respect for you as a poster. Clearly I was wrong. Vicky i agreed with what setanta said ,there is nothing wrong with that ,i respect your points and are always fair ,but in this case we ALL have different views we ALL deserve to get our points across ,but we should not expect everyone to agree with them :flowers: