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Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 09:41 AM
Its coming in four 15 minutes segments heres the first one just up.

http://www.mrmarky.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=113:day-71-overnight-clips-shortly&catid=35:big-brother-over-night&Itemid=90

Appearance_Of_A_Junky
13-08-2009, 09:46 AM
Cheers for the link, even if so far the first 5 mins is just Marcus and Charlie just nattering.

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky
Cheers for the link, even if so far the first 5 mins is just Marcus and Charlie just nattering.

Thats the lead up so you can understand what the row is about by the way an hour earlier Bea and Charlie had nicked Freddies booze took it out too the Bus Stop then felt guilty and put it back.

BB22
13-08-2009, 09:51 AM
Thank you very much for taking the trouble to post the link.

Vladimir
13-08-2009, 09:52 AM
Marcus the king! :dance:

Appearance_Of_A_Junky
13-08-2009, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Mickey2009
Originally posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky
Cheers for the link, even if so far the first 5 mins is just Marcus and Charlie just nattering.

Thats the lead up so you can understand what the row is about by the way an hour earlier Bea and Charlie had nicked Freddies booze took it out too the Bus Stop then felt guilty and put it back.

Oh sorry, I hope you don't think I was being critical, I watched it all as it happened (well with +1). I turned off originally when Marcus and Charlie were listing the Girls Aloud singles. Thought I had to watch that again for a bit.

I didn't mean to imply that its not needed, just ahh the 20 people killed comment made me laugh last night, and then again. But the GA bit was torture and caused me to play Fallout3 for a while.

Slothy
13-08-2009, 10:04 AM
Thanks for this, just from this first clip her level of arrogance is astounding. Marcus is spot on. When she gets a dislike for someone she goes on and on and on about every negative thing about them. She did the same thing with David. Can't wait to see how this progresses. Does Marcus get the better of her? Please say its so (:

Appearance_Of_A_Junky
13-08-2009, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Slothy
Thanks for this, just from this first clip her level of arrogance is astounding. Marcus is spot on. When she gets a dislike for someone she goes on and on and on about every negative thing about them. She did the same thing with David. Can't wait to see how this progresses. Does Marcus get the better of her? Please say its so (:

Get some popcorn :thumbs:

ElProximo
13-08-2009, 10:07 AM
Huge thanks for posting the link and after watching 'Part 1':
Absolutely amazing anyone has described this as any sort of 'row' between Marcus and Bea.
I am just saying on Part One here (I'm sure more to follow) but this is actually some funny banter and Bea is just stirring it good.
So far.. she is NOT in any sort of 'fight' with Marcus and despite that her and Marcus are 'play insulting' as they go along they are not themselves having any fight.
Charlie is not 'instigating' anything either and is 'in on it' with Marcus and Bea.

*Duly noted - Marcus the intellectual hypocrite says at one point about people who say they 'dont care what the public thinks' he says "Thats exactly what people who DO care always say".
Yeah.
Like you Marcus who has spent most of your time going off about how you don't care, don't give a damn lol.

Anyways.. Bea is pure evil. Just a nightmare lol.. cant wait for 'Part Two'.

Cody™
13-08-2009, 10:08 AM
OMG Bea is the most evil beatch EVER! I do hope they show all of that tonight!

Daffodil
13-08-2009, 10:09 AM
That woman is obnoxious.

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 10:10 AM
Marcus got a bit carried away tho..... 4 million watching :spin:

BB22
13-08-2009, 10:13 AM
In Part One, Marcus makes some very good points. Bea certainly does speak her mind, but that by itself does not make her a "positive person". I mean, I think a lot of people on here would agree that much of her "speaking her mind" is like a torrent of negativity.

Also, Marcus seems to have a very accurate insight into how Bea is viewed on the outside. He makes at least two comments which indicate that he has a strong intuition that there is a an overwhelmingly negative reaction waiting for her when she exits the House.

Good on you, Marcus.

Nebi
13-08-2009, 10:15 AM
Thank you for the videos!

Slothy
13-08-2009, 10:16 AM
Haha, yeah he did inflate the figures. I loved how Charlie was cackling at what Bea was saying, but I'm sure even he was thinking how naive she was thinking viewers wouldn't find her negative, and what she was saying wasn't just mean. Has she never watched BB before??

I now have popcorn at the ready waiting for part 2. I knew Bea would pull out the 'crying' card & try to flip it around. In the morning she'll be with her gang trying to make them believe it was a marcus attack on her. Grrr.

ElProximo
13-08-2009, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by BB22

Also, Marcus seems to have a very accurate insight into how Bea is viewed on the outside. He makes at least two comments which indicate that he has a strong intuition that there is a an overwhelmingly negative reaction waiting for her when she exits the House.

Good on you, Marcus.

Yes wow.. Captain Observation!
He has figured out, within 90% certainty that Bea will be booed out of the house.
How insightful!
Knowing Freddy (was) the most popular HM and figuring out the new HM being bitchy might be unpopular. Genius Marcus!
Yet,
he does not seem to be aware he is a laughingstock outside the house who will be booed and hissed and then laughed at for an hour and regarded as a moron.

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 10:20 AM
for those who haven't seen this yet they are in for quite a treat,however bea's constant interuptions of marcus will probably make this unbearable for marcus fans.he does however handle bea in quite an admirable way..

much apreciated for the links brother...

setanta
13-08-2009, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by BB22
In Part One, Marcus makes some very good points. Bea certainly does speak her mind, but that by itself does not make her a "positive person". I mean, I think a lot of people on here would agree that much of her "speaking her mind" is like a torrent of negativity.

Also, Marcus seems to have a very accurate insight into how Bea is viewed on the outside. He makes at least two comments which indicate that he has a strong intuition that there is a an overwhelmingly negative reaction waiting for her when she exits the House.

Good on you, Marcus.

That's what I find so thoroughly engaging about Marcus: he is very perceptive when it concerns others within the house but once he has invested emotionally in any scenario, his ability to rationalize diminishes. His powers of observation extend outwardly; there's no internal analysis going on. That's what frustrates me about him but it also makes him so watchable.

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by BB22

Also, Marcus seems to have a very accurate insight into how Bea is viewed on the outside. He makes at least two comments which indicate that he has a strong intuition that there is a an overwhelmingly negative reaction waiting for her when she exits the House.

Good on you, Marcus.

Yes wow.. Captain Observation!
He has figured out, within 90% certainty that Bea will be booed out of the house.
How insightful!
Knowing Freddy (was) the most popular HM and figuring out the new HM being bitchy might be unpopular. Genius Marcus!
Yet,
he does not seem to be aware he is a laughingstock outside the house who will be booed and hissed and then laughed at for an hour and regarded as a moron.
a moron who actually speaks to be with a great deal of respect,so yes captain observation did ever so well on this occasion..

Appearance_Of_A_Junky
13-08-2009, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Slothy
Haha, yeah he did inflate the figures. I loved how Charlie was cackling at what Bea was saying, but I'm sure even he was thinking how naive she was thinking viewers wouldn't find her negative, and what she was saying wasn't just mean. Has she never watched BB before??

I now have popcorn at the ready waiting for part 2. I knew Bea would pull out the 'crying' card & try to flip it around. In the morning she'll be with her gang trying to make them believe it was a marcus attack on her. Grrr.

Your in for a treat!

Slothy
13-08-2009, 10:24 AM
Its made me kind of sad because I'd love Marcus to stay just because he is the only one who stands up to Bea now, but on the flip side I'd hate Freddy to go because then Queen Bea will really think she knows it all. My ideal end to her bb experience would be her up with freddy with her getting 97% of the vote to leave..and Davina making that very clear in the interview show, lol.

Prole
13-08-2009, 10:25 AM
She is sooooooooooooooooooooo smug! I hate people who bang on about speaking their mind, like that's always a good thing. Tact, Bea. It's something you need to learn before you flap your gob and someone pops you in it.

Thanks for the link Mickey2009.

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 10:33 AM
yeah need to see part 2, going to work soon lol :spin:

InOne
13-08-2009, 10:33 AM
Hope part 2 will hurry up!!!!

Marc
13-08-2009, 10:34 AM
oh christ she's pinched GM's arse? she is fully of it

Marcus is a legend makes me LOL

BB22
13-08-2009, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by BB22

Also, Marcus seems to have a very accurate insight into how Bea is viewed on the outside. He makes at least two comments which indicate that he has a strong intuition that there is a an overwhelmingly negative reaction waiting for her when she exits the House.

Good on you, Marcus.

Yes wow.. Captain Observation!
He has figured out, within 90% certainty that Bea will be booed out of the house.
How insightful!
Knowing Freddy (was) the most popular HM and figuring out the new HM being bitchy might be unpopular. Genius Marcus!
Yet,
he does not seem to be aware he is a laughingstock outside the house who will be booed and hissed and then laughed at for an hour and regarded as a moron.

And yet Bea plainly has absolutely no idea. :rolleyes:

Do you ever post without sarcasm?

shash
13-08-2009, 10:35 AM
Thank you for posting this.

I agree that speaking one's mind does not make one a positive person, particularly when that person is always highlighting negative things. A positive person is more likely to to have the mindset of "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"

She speaks with next to no sensitivity for people's feelings and is actually rather confrontational.

Marcus is so right, and good on him for also correcting her on "Fontleroy"

Bea you absolutely are a negative person being happy being negative does not make you a positive person, and nor does being happy at the expense of other people. Deluded woman.

The one who comes out of this extremely well is Marcus. Perceptive, insightful and calm, with enough strength to raise these points. He genuinely does seem a housemate who does not care if he stays or goes, although I d now believe he is preferring to go.

Daffodil
13-08-2009, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Marcjswp
oh christ she's pinched GM's arse? she is fully of it

Marcus is a legend makes me LOL

I thought she said Boy George's arse.

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 10:39 AM
i did to. lol but , then i always get them the wrong way round..:laugh2:

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 10:41 AM
Part Two now up http://www.mrmarky.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=113

Marc
13-08-2009, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Daffodil
Originally posted by Marcjswp
oh christ she's pinched GM's arse? she is fully of it

Marcus is a legend makes me LOL

I thought she said Boy George's arse.

Oh maybe.. sorry I get my gays mixed up :blush2:

BB22
13-08-2009, 10:43 AM
Yes, it was Boy George.

mcka
13-08-2009, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Daffodil
Originally posted by Marcjswp
oh christ she's pinched GM's arse? she is fully of it

Marcus is a legend makes me LOL

I thought she said Boy George's arse.

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

mcka
13-08-2009, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Mickey2009
Its coming in four 15 minutes segments heres the first one just up.

http://www.mrmarky.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=113:day-71-overnight-clips-shortly&catid=35:big-brother-over-night&Itemid=90

Thank you how interesting can't wait to see part 2 :hello:

Marc
13-08-2009, 10:44 AM
I doubt this argument will get shown much, it'll miss out big parts

BB22
13-08-2009, 10:48 AM
Part Two is now up.

Marc
13-08-2009, 10:49 AM
WTF its weird how she's speaking as if she's crying yet there are no tears in those eyes... hmmmmmm

Prole
13-08-2009, 10:50 AM
Am I the only one having problems viewing part 2? It's kind of FFing on its own...

Nebi
13-08-2009, 10:51 AM
Part 2 is weird, skip all the time lol

Marc
13-08-2009, 10:53 AM
OMG Bea I hate you! Your not even crying...

InOne
13-08-2009, 10:53 AM
yeah i noticed that??????????? Whats up with it :S

ElProximo
13-08-2009, 10:58 AM
Problems here too - at exactly the part where it seems Bea gets upset.. it 'fast forwards' and slows to normal for a bit then fast forwards seemingly high speed..
BOOOOOO

Marc
13-08-2009, 11:00 AM
Mine was fine?

Striptease
13-08-2009, 11:00 AM
I'm sick of the "being negative" thing

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 11:02 AM
omg part two, was unbelievable :sad: what is Bea like, she starts the argument, and just twists everything..poor Marcus hasn't a chance :shrug:

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Problems here too - at exactly the part where it seems Bea gets upset.. it 'fast forwards' and slows to normal for a bit then fast forwards seemingly high speed..
BOOOOOO
it does ajust itself eventually, and plays normal :thumbs:

karezza
13-08-2009, 11:03 AM
Charlie bullied Freddie again.:sad:

Prole
13-08-2009, 11:03 AM
Yeah.... boo fecking hoo b1tch.

setanta
13-08-2009, 11:03 AM
This girl is an absolute nightmare..... really- driving me mad watching her.

Prole
13-08-2009, 11:05 AM
She's doing a lot of crying for someone who "doesn't give a sh1t".

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 11:06 AM
Do you think she has problems??? because she ain't normal in the way she approaches and says things..

mcka
13-08-2009, 11:06 AM
Bea likes the sound of her own voice

BBmassive
13-08-2009, 11:09 AM
wheres part 3 ?

DrunkerThanMoses
13-08-2009, 11:10 AM
This changes averything...... ah gooo marcus, if freddie goes, and he will im telling you, i msupporting him 100% then...


and **** off charlie....... hahahahahahaha i find it funny, well your the only one you stupid ****!

Slothy
13-08-2009, 11:10 AM
She is totally an actress. She was losing that exchange so had to resort to the 'I'm really upset now' spew. She totally contradicts herself, she says what 'she' sees and thats why she keeps going on about Freddy, yet when Marcus says what he sees about her, she goes over the top to try and make it seem like he was bullying her, when he didn't even raise his voice once, and was very calm - it was a normal frikking conversation.

setanta
13-08-2009, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by sophie1955
Do you think she has problems??? because she ain't normal in the way she approaches and says things..

Yep, there's an underlying problem with her.

bigmalky
13-08-2009, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Slothy
Thanks for this, just from this first clip her level of arrogance is astounding. Marcus is spot on. When she gets a dislike for someone she goes on and on and on about every negative thing about them. She did the same thing with David. Can't wait to see how this progresses. Does Marcus get the better of her? Please say its so (:

Marcus got her to the point of going to the diary room and threatening to say he was bullying her... which was wrong, he was merely telling her if she did not change, people will hate her.

They went out into the garden afterward where Bea continued her broken record "I am deeply offended, you see me as negative rant"... Marcuse basically told her, that she was negative and had a horrible way of treating people and she'd know about it.

Charlie had a petty little girl rant about how he did not want to hear it anymore, but seemed to favour Bea as the snide little tw@ always does with his group.

If they don't show the proper argument tonight, I'm boycotting BB fro bad editing in favour of the most hated woman on television.

:banana::dance2::banana:

InOne
13-08-2009, 11:11 AM
HAHA loved it, Bea can't handle it at all so she tunrs on the tears! Hope she ends up leaving.

Slothy
13-08-2009, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by ImDrunkerThenMoses
This changes averything...... ah gooo marcus, if freddie goes, and he will im telling you, i msupporting him 100% then...


and **** off charlie....... hahahahahahaha i find it funny, well your the only one you stupid ****!

Ya know, if this is shown it could really keep Marcus in - he was like the viewers voice lol

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by sophie1955
Originally posted by ElProximo
Problems here too - at exactly the part where it seems Bea gets upset.. it 'fast forwards' and slows to normal for a bit then fast forwards seemingly high speed..
BOOOOOO
it does ajust itself eventually, and plays normal :thumbs:


Part 2 Is Raw Footage Please fast forward 2 Minutes !

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Slothy
She is totally an actress. She was losing that exchange so had to resort to the 'I'm really upset now' spew. She totally contradicts herself, she says what 'she' sees and thats why she keeps going on about Freddy, yet when Marcus says what he sees about her, she goes over the top to try and make it seem like he was bullying her, when he didn't even raise his voice once, and was very calm - it was a normal frikking conversation.

^^ this.. also im not sure if shes cottoned on to that fact she started the conversation,yet she tells marcus she had a wonderful day until marcus brought on the negativity..

i cant see why charlie hasnt seen through her yet has a problem with freddie and his "game planning" ...

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 11:15 AM
Mickey, have you got part 3 ready please, just can't wait :thumbs:

aiv
13-08-2009, 11:16 AM
I'm watching it now - LOL, Marcus to Bea: '(that hat) makes your head look like a teapot.'

bigmalky
13-08-2009, 11:18 AM
I feel this is the reason why she's lost nearly every job she's had... I wonder how long she's been using this negative/deeply hurt tantrum through her life...

discotheque
13-08-2009, 11:18 AM
MY GOD, what a drama queen !!!!!!!!!!!

Go on Marcus !!!!!

mcka
13-08-2009, 11:20 AM
omg Bea works herself into a frenzy of crocodile tears... blames the person she's talking to then gets someone to feel sorry for her... What a bad actress.. boo hoo

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 11:21 AM
Marcus a bully lol

She picked on the wrong one to start an argument, he destroyed her hands down so instead of saying yep you might be right she calls him a bully.. . .

aiv
13-08-2009, 11:23 AM
woo Marcus!

!

'Bea, you won't like what happens when you get out of here.'

shash
13-08-2009, 11:25 AM
Halfway through the second part but Marcus is playing a blinder! :thumbs:

And Bea is one of those people who under the guise of "I say it as it is" gets it completely wrong and does nothing of the sort. She says what she wants to say to influence people negatively. That is not the same things at all, Bea.

DrunkerThanMoses
13-08-2009, 11:26 AM
I didnt think it was possible but i hate bea and Charlie even more now! :wink:

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 11:26 AM
oh my i am quite the idiot,i just watched the part 1 clip again thinking it was part two,realised it was the same before scrolling down to see part 2 below it....

lol i need a ban for pure foolishness

mcka
13-08-2009, 11:27 AM
I won't apologise for laughing at Bea through that lol....

Where the fark did they find this alien :tongue:

shaz20
13-08-2009, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
oh my i am quite the idiot,i just watched the part 1 clip again thinking it was part two,realised it was the same before scrolling down to see part 2 below it....

lol i need a ban for pure foolishness Nope I did the same:laugh3:

ElProximo
13-08-2009, 11:28 AM
Here again in Part Two:
There is (so far) no real row between Marcus and Bea. Marcus is more of an innocent bystander.
You can give him credit for really just trying to keep it level and not getting baited into an actual emotional row like Freddy did.
but,
No there is not an 'argument' and no Marcus is not 'telling her off' or 'putting her in her place' and is really just trying to balance it without making too many stupid comments.

The real story (so far in Part two) isn't really anything to do with Marcus or Charlie at all.
Its simply Bea just mind-fukking out-loud and really just baffling Marcus and Charlie who, if anything, are slightly confused and end giving each other 'what the hell was that??' looks.

The stupid thing is that many of you just do not understand that this is only another 'win' for Bea.
This is only more payload for her.
Not AS MUCH great payload as she would have liked since Freddy did not come out like he was supposed to,
but,
Its only more for Bea at the end of it all.

It didn't really affect Marcus or Charlie much (so far) anyways. You could almost say they have nothing to do with it.
Other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

shaz20
13-08-2009, 11:29 AM
Waiting anxiously for part 3 where is it???:colour:

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by shash
She says what she wants to say to influence people negatively. That is not the same things at all, Bea.

which is ironically what she was accusing marcus/freddie and siavash of doing..

so what we have so far is david telling bea its good that she is being honest,and she considers that being mean and horrible to her?freddie thinks bea's negative and thats seen as freddie being horrible and mean,marcus tells her not to be so negative and thats seen as him bullying her,but bea calling freddie a twat,a pensioner and a nuisance is fine even when the guy is not there to defend himself?


k i just needed that clearing,what was i thinking,ofcourse bea is this big ball of positivity and marcus/freddie have her all wrong... :rolleyes:

shaz20
13-08-2009, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by shash
She says what she wants to say to influence people negatively. That is not the same things at all, Bea.

which is ironically what she was accusing marcus/freddie and siavash of doing..

so what we have so far is david telling bea its good that she is being honest,and she considers that being mean and horrible to her?freddie thinks bea's negative and thats seen as freddie being horrible and mean,marcus tells her not to be so negative and thats seen as him bullying her,but bea calling freddie a t***,a pensioner and a nuisance is fine even when the guy is not there to defend himself?


k i just needed that clearing,what was i thinking,ofcourse bea is this big ball of positivity and marcus/freddie have her all wrong... :rolleyes: :thumbs: :hello:

halfacrown
13-08-2009, 11:32 AM
Thing is, Marcus could have said so much more about how she used to slag off her new friends Lisa and Davis. I hope this is coming in part 3.

Charlie thinks this is going to be shown and wants some highlights action. Bea and Charlie are as phoney as it's possible to be. She can’t squeeze a tear out

mcka
13-08-2009, 11:33 AM
I don't think Bea had a 'win' ... she did the tear thing 'en queue' though.

I'll give her 10 for effort lol

bigmalky
13-08-2009, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by BB22

Also, Marcus seems to have a very accurate insight into how Bea is viewed on the outside. He makes at least two comments which indicate that he has a strong intuition that there is a an overwhelmingly negative reaction waiting for her when she exits the House.

Good on you, Marcus.

Yes wow.. Captain Observation!
He has figured out, within 90% certainty that Bea will be booed out of the house.
How insightful!
Knowing Freddy (was) the most popular HM and figuring out the new HM being bitchy might be unpopular. Genius Marcus!
Yet,
he does not seem to be aware he is a laughingstock outside the house who will be booed and hissed and then laughed at for an hour and regarded as a moron.

Difference is... he won't give a ****, Bea does. You're a very negative person proximo... are you related to Bea?

SDAS
13-08-2009, 11:34 AM
Just watched part 2 and OMG that woman is horrible, I hope Marcus stays because like him or not (and up to now I didnt like him) he tells it like it is

shaz20
13-08-2009, 11:35 AM
Yes I thought she was a good actress but can't do the basic cry scene properly. All she is doing is screwing her face up and dabbing with her tissue! She is the fake:conf2:

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 11:35 AM
PART 3 http://www.mrmarky.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=113

bigmalky
13-08-2009, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Mickey2009
PART 3 http://www.mrmarky.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=113

Oh you're all going to love Marcus by the end... :hello:

shash
13-08-2009, 11:37 AM
LOL very "strong and intelligent" she does not like what she hears so she turns on the tears and calls it bullying?? Marcus was calm, his body language was passive, his voice not raised and he said absolutely nothing offensive. She simply did not like what he said. He was spot on with his observation about her self-image being cast in stone, and no evidence to the contrary will be noticed by her. She calls herself a positive person and so whatever she does she will believe it by telling everyone including herself. That is self-delusion.

Slothy
13-08-2009, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by shash
She says what she wants to say to influence people negatively. That is not the same things at all, Bea.

which is ironically what she was accusing marcus/freddie and siavash of doing..

so what we have so far is david telling bea its good that she is being honest,and she considers that being mean and horrible to her?freddie thinks bea's negative and thats seen as freddie being horrible and mean,marcus tells her not to be so negative and thats seen as him bullying her,but bea calling freddie a t***,a pensioner and a nuisance is fine even when the guy is not there to defend himself?


k i just needed that clearing,what was i thinking,ofcourse bea is this big ball of positivity and marcus/freddie have her all wrong... :rolleyes:

Spot on, dudey. She is just a giant ball of contradiction wrapped in a human looking shell. The only way Marcus could've improved his analysis would've been to bring up how she did the exact same thing she did to him then (calling him out for bullying) as she did to David. When she doesn't like what people are saying this seems to be her escape clause.

DrunkerThanMoses
13-08-2009, 11:38 AM
At the end of part 2 when bea went "are you happy now", to marcus, did anyone want him to say yes?

Indierock&roll
13-08-2009, 11:39 AM
i think freddie is definatly going now :sad:

BB22
13-08-2009, 11:41 AM
If I hear Bea say the word "negativity" again...

shash
13-08-2009, 11:42 AM
Oh this is amazing! She is in floods of crocodile tears (invisible ones at that) and says to Marcus "If you can't take it, don't give it out" !! The gall of the woman!

BTW - Many, many thanks to the OP for posting this, it is hugely appreciated. It seems I switched off just a few minutes too soon last night and missed all this.

Good work! :thumbs:

setanta
13-08-2009, 11:42 AM
Ok, while I feel that Charlie has a blatant agenda in his attack of Freddie, I do understand slightly where he's coming from. What did Freddie think would come of him getting involved? Silly move.

shash
13-08-2009, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by BB22
If I hear Bea say the word "negativity" again...

same here, and "I'm really, really upset!"

BB22
13-08-2009, 11:44 AM
"Mindlessly horrible to people", sounds like a fairly accurate characterisation.

And what the hell is it with Bea saying, "If you can't take it then don't dish it out"? She's got a brass neck, I'll say that.

InOne
13-08-2009, 11:47 AM
Charlie playing the mum card once again............

Marc
13-08-2009, 11:50 AM
Charlie's voice... :bored:

BB22
13-08-2009, 11:51 AM
Charlie is driving me crazy. He never stops trying to talk over the top of people.

setanta
13-08-2009, 11:52 AM

setanta
13-08-2009, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by setanta
Charlie is an absolute tit, but I don't really know what Freddie thought he would achieve from coming out.

BB22
13-08-2009, 11:55 AM
Freddie should have stayed well out of it. However, I can sort of understand why he might react to the line "If you can't take it then don't dish it out".

shash
13-08-2009, 11:55 AM
what a nasty piece of work Charlie is too

he picks one word and then launches an attack based on assumptions ... and now he is saying he is "really, really upset"!

Marc
13-08-2009, 11:56 AM
Why did Freddie get out of bed though? just to argue? it seems a little childish of him. I hate everyone in there!!1 arrrghhhh

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 11:57 AM
The final clip...PART 4 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa5f7a_day71pt4_shortfilms

Faded
13-08-2009, 11:58 AM
Marcus destroyed her last night without even trying.

discotheque
13-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Charlie and Bea, somebody pass the sick bucket, I can't take much more !!

mcka
13-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Marcus will win this year

shaz20
13-08-2009, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by setanta
Ok, while I feel that Charlie has a blatant agenda in his attack of Freddie, I do understand slightly where he's coming from. What did Freddie think would come of him getting involved? Silly move. :thumbs:

Indierock&roll
13-08-2009, 12:02 PM
hahaha how dramatic was the "do you feel better now!?"
and all freddie laughed at was "If you cant take it dont gie it out" not particularly laughing at her crying or anything

charlie really annoys me in this

Faded
13-08-2009, 12:03 PM
Freddie was laughing at the situation and how big of a hypocrite Bea really is, not at her directly being upset.

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by setanta
Ok, while I feel that Charlie has a blatant agenda in his attack of Freddie, I do understand slightly where he's coming from. What did Freddie think would come of him getting involved? Silly move.

well as much as i see your point,freddie's "silly move" was on impulse,so to jump on a knee jerk reaction is a little mean anyway,but heres the truth,why is it okay for bea to completely character assasinate freddie calling him a twat and what not,yet freddie scoffs at one comment and he gets bombarded with abuse and guilt trips?

i found it funny myself on so many levels,bea not thinking the comments made about freddie were mindlessly horrible as marcus put it,charlie having a go at freddie for "ganging up" on bea yet he had no issue with it when his little clique did much the same to freddie (the night when noirin was debating whether to starve herself) infact that night,charlie got stuck in himself while kris told freddie to shut the **** up and lisa ripped a few chunks out of him..

im just hoping this gets shown tonight with no sense of bias on any side,hopefully this will be aired tonight for what it is,bea's amatuer dramatics and charlies knight in shining armour routine..

Indierock&roll
13-08-2009, 12:05 PM
um what does it ALWAYS turn to freddies fault for eerything!? he didnt do anything really

Caramel77
13-08-2009, 12:06 PM
Bea is ridiculous and her tears are becoming annoying and predictable :rolleyes:

shash
13-08-2009, 12:07 PM
why does charlie talk so fast and over people? he doesn't listen at all.

BB22
13-08-2009, 12:07 PM
Apparently, Charlie has never seen Bea being negative. Astounding. I think he must be walking around the House with a bag over his head and a pair of ear-muffs on.

halfacrown
13-08-2009, 12:07 PM
I must be watching different footage. I'm glad that Marcus challenged Bea but he should never have apologised to her.

Why didn't Marcus challenge Charlie when he was attacking Freddie, as he said he would do? Only the other day he criticised Siavash for not speaking up for Freddie when Bea was going at him when they were both in bed. Charlie had to mention Freddie being a favourite because it's driving him mad.

I thought Marcus was going to put her in her place; it's all a little mealy mouthed so far. Let's see what happens in part 4...

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Marcjswp
Why did Freddie get out of bed though? just to argue? it seems a little childish of him. I hate everyone in there!!1 arrrghhhh
this is what is being misunderstood by most,he did not get out of bed to argue,infact he simply laughed at something bea had said as he saw the hypocrisy in it just as we do,when charlie began barking at him he riled freddie up,so freddie jumped out to speak about it..

charlie was relentless until freddie got out of bed saying "go to bed freddie,you idiot" and what not,then when freddie came to defend himself as to why he laughed,charlie ripped chunks out of him and would not let him get a word in edge ways..

be under no illusions,charlie was the reason freddie got up.nothing more

SDAS
13-08-2009, 12:08 PM
Before this I wanted Charlie to win but not now, while I was watching that I was shouting "shut up Charlie"

shash
13-08-2009, 12:11 PM
Bea to Marcus: "If you want to talk about negativity maybe you should look at yourself. I've been a really good friend to you" says she who nominated Marcus.

delta
13-08-2009, 12:12 PM
I told you, front her out and she crumbles the woman is abhorrent.


How the fcukk he didn't tw@t Charlie and drown the biatch is beyond me.


Major Props to Marcus !!!!

halfacrown
13-08-2009, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by Marcjswp
Why did Freddie get out of bed though? just to argue? it seems a little childish of him. I hate everyone in there!!1 arrrghhhh
this is what is being misunderstood by most,he did not get out of bed to argue,infact he simply laughed at something bea had said as he saw the hypocrisy in it just as we do,when charlie began barking at him he riled freddie up,so freddie jumped out to speak about it..

charlie was relentless until freddie got out of bed saying "go to bed freddie,you idiot" and what not,then when freddie came to defend himself as to why he laughed,charlie ripped chunks out of him and would not let him get a word in edge ways..

be under no illusions,charlie was the reason freddie got up.nothing more

Exactly! Why has Freddie got to do what other people tell him and why has he got to be a punch bag in order for people to like him? Charlie's behaviour was disgusting and I would have liked Marcus to have said something to him, even if it was after Freddie went to bed.

setanta
13-08-2009, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
Ok, while I feel that Charlie has a blatant agenda in his attack of Freddie, I do understand slightly where he's coming from. What did Freddie think would come of him getting involved? Silly move.

well as much as i see your point,freddie's "silly move" was on impulse,so to jump on a knee jerk reaction is a little mean anyway,but heres the truth,why is it okay for bea to completely character assasinate freddie calling him a t*** and what not,yet freddie scoffs at one comment and he gets bombarded with abuse and guilt trips?

i found it funny myself on so many levels,bea not thinking the comments made about freddie were mindlessly horrible as marcus put it,charlie having a go at freddie for "ganging up" on bea yet he had no issue with it when his little clique did much the same to freddie (the night when noirin was debating whether to starve herself) infact that night,charlie got stuck in himself while kris told freddie to shut the **** up and lisa ripped a few chunks out of him..

im just hoping this gets shown tonight with no sense of bias on any side,hopefully this will be aired tonight for what it is,bea's amatuer dramatics and charlies knight in shining armour routine..

I'm not showing any bias in my question.... it's a valid point. Freddie shouldn't have bothered exchanging words with Charlie when it was perfectly clear that it wasn't necessary in this case to involve himself in the argument.

I never drew a comparison between the differing sides; it's a pointless exercise considering that I never suggested that one was worse than the other.

My whole reason for commenting is that Marcus had told Bea that she shouldn't involve Freddie in their argument. It would have been far more prudent for him to just lie back in his bed and smile over the whole spectacle. No value in going out there.

Enid
13-08-2009, 12:15 PM
Argh brilliant! Thanks. Gonna be watching this with my tea. :thumbs:

shash
13-08-2009, 12:17 PM
"Just go away and let me be positive" :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: classic!

Enid
13-08-2009, 12:19 PM
Watching part 1, at around what time does the arguing begin?

BB22
13-08-2009, 12:19 PM
Interesting footage.

It looks to me as if Marcus had no intention of getting into any kind of row with Bea. The conversation kind of ebbed of its own accord in a certain direction and Marcus started telling Bea a few home truths. Pretty much everything Marcus told her was justified.

The row itself, if you can call it that, was a real rope-a-dope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope-a-dope) from Marcus. He was just lying back, fairly relaxed, making one or two comments and letting Bea punch herself out, sending the occasional riposte back at her. It wasn't so much Marcus trying to "defeat" her. He just let herself work herself up into a kind of frenzy.

This incident really provides more evidence to back up my assessment of Bea. She strikes me as someone who has coasted through life with nobody telling her she was doing anything wrong, ever. And now she is here in a completely different environment with some people who are not just going to roll over and let her have her way and she simply cannot handle it. Hence all this talk about how shocked and "upset" she is when someone even hints that she may not be a little rainbow in everyone's dreary lives.

shash
13-08-2009, 12:20 PM
Thanks again for this, Mickey2009 ... +karma for you :thumbs:

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by setanta
I'm not showing any bias in my question.... it's a valid point. Freddie shouldn't have bothered exchanging words with Charlie when it was perfectly clear that it wasn't necessary in this case to involve himself in the argument.

I never drew a comparison between the differing sides; it's a pointless exercise considering that I never suggested that one was worse than the other.

My whole reason for commenting is that Marcus' had told Bea that she shouldn't involve Freddie in their argument. It would have been far more prudent for him to just lie back in his bed and smile over the whole spectacle. No value in going out there.

brother im haven't questioned the validity of what you have said,nor have i stated that you were being bias in any way.infact i see the point your making..

fact remains,while i agree freddie shouldn't have got involved,he found something bea had said as hypocritic so he laughed... now while we can agree there may have been "no value for him going out there" you do realise if that was the reason he stayed out of it,that would be game playing?

so he stayed quiet until charlie got on his back,had that been me i think i would've had to move to him myself,charlies only reason for what he said to freddie was based on knowing how weak freddie is when it comes to settling disputes..

furthermore,charlie didnt see it as ganging up when him and kris had that game of hide and seek with freddie and picked him apart day by day...

anyways brother i understood and agree with what your saying.. so im not sure why you think i was challenging you but lets leave it there as i have to get going anyway...

setanta
13-08-2009, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
I'm not showing any bias in my question.... it's a valid point. Freddie shouldn't have bothered exchanging words with Charlie when it was perfectly clear that it wasn't necessary in this case to involve himself in the argument.

I never drew a comparison between the differing sides; it's a pointless exercise considering that I never suggested that one was worse than the other.

My whole reason for commenting is that Marcus' had told Bea that she shouldn't involve Freddie in their argument. It would have been far more prudent for him to just lie back in his bed and smile over the whole spectacle. No value in going out there.

brother im haven't questioned the validity of what you have said,nor have i stated that you were being bias in any way.infact i see the point your making..

fact remains,while i agree freddie shouldn't have got involved,he found something bea had said as hypocritic so he laughed... now while we can agree there may have been "no value of him going out there" you do realise if that was the reason he stayed out of it,that would be game playing?

so he stayed quite until charlie got on his back,had that been me i think i would've had to move to him myself,charlies only reason for what he said to freddie was based on knowing how weak freddie is when it comes to settling desputes..

furthermore,charlie didnt see it as ganging up when him and kris had that game of hide and seek with freddie and picked him apart day by day...

anyways brother i understood and agree with what your saying.. so im not sure why you think i was challenging you but lets leave it there as i have to get going anyway...

But you didn't read my question properly. I stated that Charlie had an agenda and I called it an attack - I wasn't asking you to compare and contrast everyone. My question was why Freddie had to get involved.

Sure you could hear him talking in the bedroom about it prior to coming out; his words carried into the living room on a number of occassions. As far as I'm concerned there was no value in involving himself in their argument-so yes, on those grounds it was a silly move.

BB22
13-08-2009, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
I'm not showing any bias in my question.... it's a valid point. Freddie shouldn't have bothered exchanging words with Charlie when it was perfectly clear that it wasn't necessary in this case to involve himself in the argument.

I never drew a comparison between the differing sides; it's a pointless exercise considering that I never suggested that one was worse than the other.

My whole reason for commenting is that Marcus' had told Bea that she shouldn't involve Freddie in their argument. It would have been far more prudent for him to just lie back in his bed and smile over the whole spectacle. No value in going out there.

brother im haven't questioned the validity of what you have said,nor have i stated that you were being bias in any way.infact i see the point your making..

fact remains,while i agree freddie shouldn't have got involved,he found something bea had said as hypocritic so he laughed... now while we can agree there may have been "no value for him going out there" you do realise if that was the reason he stayed out of it,that would be game playing?

so he stayed quiet until charlie got on his back,had that been me i think i would've had to move to him myself,charlies only reason for what he said to freddie was based on knowing how weak freddie is when it comes to settling disputes..

furthermore,charlie didnt see it as ganging up when him and kris had that game of hide and seek with freddie and picked him apart day by day...

anyways brother i understood and agree with what your saying.. so im not sure why you think i was challenging you but lets leave it there as i have to get going anyway...

Apparently, Bea had told him off for his reaction the previous night, accused him of "having a tantrum" and said she would never react like that. That certainly helps explain Freddie's strangled laugh.

SDAS
13-08-2009, 12:36 PM
I wish BB would show Charlie when Bea was venting her spleen(sorry having her opinion) about Lisa and then David, she was horrible about them both

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by halfacrown
Exactly! Why has Freddie got to do what other people tell him and why has he got to be a punch bag in order for people to like him? Charlie's behaviour was disgusting and I would have liked Marcus to have said something to him, even if it was after Freddie went to bed.

agreed,charlie seemed to think he was justified calling freddie out,saying what he had to say then dismissing him, charlie was right the night he told freddie of his scheming and plotting theory..

however tonight was just a quick squirmish to tenderise freddie's ego,to top it off he seemed to think wailing "just leave her alone,you got up to argue with her just leave her alone" constantly when it seemed freddie came out to speak to charlie to address the accusation of ganging up on bea..

the thing with this is,charlie may have played apart in this,but when he is evicted his interview will consist of davina gossiping as to the status of his relationship with rodders.. no mention of this shoddy treatment of freddie at any point i gaurantee..

ElProximo
13-08-2009, 12:42 PM
Charlie just owned that entire situation.
Up till now I have had little interest in him other than enjoying some laughs when him and Rodrigo have fights,
but,
Wow. Charlie just came up massive and simply owned that entire night so skillfully, so honestly and his 'undressing' of Freddy has got to be one of the greatest moments of the week!

Marcus gets credit for knowing better than to push a hysterical devil-woman and was as meek as possible despite constantly wanting to veer off about his greatness,
and,
Bea is just an astonishing force of nature/ carnival nightmare / devil-child,
and,
Freddy (who was really the 'fish' to be reeled in by Beazulbub) is possibly the most annoying retarded bad dream,
but,,
Wow.. just massive new admiration for Charlie!
Simply owned that entire situation and handled it with total excellence!

Huge thanks for posting the links - Wow.. I remembered how exciting live-feed really is heh.

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by setanta
But you didn't read my question properly. I stated that Charlie had an agenda and I called it an attack - I wasn't asking you to compare and contrast everyone. My question was why Freddie had to get involved.

Sure you could hear him talking in the bedroom about it prior to coming out; his words carried into the living room on a number of occassions. As far as I'm concerned there was no value in involving himself in their argument-so yes, on those grounds it was a silly move.

i didnt read your question properly?are you joking?actually dont worry..lets make this simple king..

i agree with you,you are right..

and i was not accusing you of bias,i have read back my post to see why you would think i was calling you out for doing so,and the only mention in my post was this "i hope this gets shown with no bias on tonights highlight show" .. i was not refering to you brother..

you raised a good point with it being a silly move on freddies part..perhaps we just have a slightly diffrent take on things,so i shall agree to disagree..


gone

Enid
13-08-2009, 12:43 PM
Bea is really ugly when she "cries"...

halfacrown
13-08-2009, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by halfacrown
Exactly! Why has Freddie got to do what other people tell him and why has he got to be a punch bag in order for people to like him? Charlie's behaviour was disgusting and I would have liked Marcus to have said something to him, even if it was after Freddie went to bed.

agreed,charlie seemed to think he was justified calling freddie out,saying what he had to say then dismissing him, charlie was right the night he told freddie of his scheming and plotting theory..

however tonight was just a quick squirmish to tenderise freddie's ego,to top it off he seemed to think wailing "just leave her alone,you got up to argue with her just leave her alone" constantly when it seemed freddie came out to speak to charlie to address the accusation of ganging up on bea..

the thing with this is,charlie may have played apart in this,but when he is evicted his interview will consist of davina gossiping as to the status of his relationship with rodders.. no mention of this shoddy treatment of freddie at any point i gaurantee..

And Charlie is so out to win. He sees Freddie as a rival but his attacked are having the reverse effect to what he wants: Freddie grow in popularity when he's the underdog.

The scenario you describe with Davina is accurate and depressing.

delta
13-08-2009, 12:46 PM
Charlie knows Freddie is popular and is desperate to win the show that is why at every opportunity he has a pop at Freddie, not saying that some of it is not justified, but the guy is an opportunist.

The other thing, does the **** draw a breath?


As for the arguement, gotta agree with the other poster who likened it to the rope-a-dope, yeah, she defeated herself, with the seed firmly planted that she will be disliked immensely on the outside, her paranoia is only going to get worse. Bea is a very unstable human being.

It was okay for her to tear Freddie to shreds the night previous, but when she gets a mild dose of her own medicine, it's VICTIM time.


I do hope they allow flour and eggs in to her eviction.

setanta
13-08-2009, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
But you didn't read my question properly. I stated that Charlie had an agenda and I called it an attack - I wasn't asking you to compare and contrast everyone. My question was why Freddie had to get involved.

Sure you could hear him talking in the bedroom about it prior to coming out; his words carried into the living room on a number of occassions. As far as I'm concerned there was no value in involving himself in their argument-so yes, on those grounds it was a silly move.

i didnt read your question properly?are you joking?actually dont worry..lets make this simple king..

i agree with you,you are right..

and i was not accusing you of bias,i have read back my post to see why you would think i was calling you out for doing so,and the only mention in my post was this "i hope this gets shown with no bias on tonights highlight show" .. i was not refering to you brother..

you raised a good point with it being a silly move on freddies part..perhaps we just have a slightly diffrent take on things,so i shall agree to disagree..


gone

You were accusing me of bias from your tone and your defense of Freddie-referring to situations that had taken place over a month ago, along with examples from last night, to cement your claims- when I had never even suggested that one side was better or worse than the other.

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
Charlie just owned that entire situation.
Up till now I have had little interest in him other than enjoying some laughs when him and Rodrigo have fights,
but,
Wow. Charlie just came up massive and simply owned that entire night so skillfully, so honestly and his 'undressing' of Freddy has got to be one of the greatest moments of the week!

Marcus gets credit for knowing better than to push a hysterical devil-woman and was as meek as possible despite constantly wanting to veer off about his greatness,
and,
Bea is just an astonishing force of nature/ carnival nightmare / devil-child,
and,
Freddy (who was really the 'fish' to be reeled in by Beazulbub) is possibly the most annoying retarded bad dream,
but,,
Wow.. just massive new admiration for Charlie!
Simply owned that entire situation and handled it with total excellence!

Huge thanks for posting the links - Wow.. I remembered how exciting live-feed really is heh.

lol your enthusiasm is compelling,but charlie owned the night?skillfully?honestly?
we may just be watching diffrent feeds,from where i sat i saw a very hyper ignorant twenty something guy mincing around attention whoring himself for the viewing public while doing nothing productive in the process..

my personal opinion is marcus handled bea with utmost care and respect and still managed to articulate his thoughts without so much of a raised voice or a curse word.. for me.. marcus owned the little witch of ellstreet.

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
But you didn't read my question properly. I stated that Charlie had an agenda and I called it an attack - I wasn't asking you to compare and contrast everyone. My question was why Freddie had to get involved.

Sure you could hear him talking in the bedroom about it prior to coming out; his words carried into the living room on a number of occassions. As far as I'm concerned there was no value in involving himself in their argument-so yes, on those grounds it was a silly move.

i didnt read your question properly?are you joking?actually dont worry..lets make this simple king..

i agree with you,you are right..

and i was not accusing you of bias,i have read back my post to see why you would think i was calling you out for doing so,and the only mention in my post was this "i hope this gets shown with no bias on tonights highlight show" .. i was not refering to you brother..

you raised a good point with it being a silly move on freddies part..perhaps we just have a slightly diffrent take on things,so i shall agree to disagree..


gone

You were accusing me of bias from your tone and your defense of Freddie-referring to situations that had taken place over a month ago, along with examples from last night, to cement your claims- when I had never even suggested that one side was better or worse than the other.

okay lets just assume im not a liar or scared to tell you what i really feel?lets further assume we may not see eye to eye but if i disagree with you i am within my rights to do so right?

now forgive me for being blunt... but king.. i have agreed for the most part with everything you have said,and let me make this clear,I WAS NOT ACCUSING YOU OF FCK ALL..so kindly brother quit trolling as i do not wish to curse in my post again..

if i thought you were being bias,i would've said..i did not,so you can assume,that i was not accusing you of such a thing unless i say otherwise..

once again...





gone

Enid
13-08-2009, 12:56 PM
Okay, so so far from what I've seen of the fight, Marcus says she is negative, Bea is saying she's not (when she clearly is) and Charlie is being a brown-noser and this should be his queue to bugger off somewhere else now. I thought it was hilarious when Freddie taunted her from the bedroom and Charlie decided to be the "big man". Has he forgotten what that bitch did to him the other day??

She's been crying for a good while but I've yet to see any tears. She is so ****ing hypocritical, she described Freddie's panic attack or whatever it was as a tantrum, but look at her now. She's gone off in a huff simply because Marcus did not back down and it is clear she's not getting her own way on this one, but she is expecting sympathy and Charlie is giving it to her. FÚCK OFF CHARLIE!!!

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Indierock&roll
i think freddie is definatly going now :sad:

I feel, although I like freddie and Marcus, it would be best for Freddie to go i think, because they will just make mince of him if Marcus goes, and could even turn to Freddie having enough and just leaving. :sad:

BB22
13-08-2009, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Enid
Okay, so so far from what I've seen of the fight, Marcus says she is negative, Bea is saying she's not (when she clearly is) and Charlie is being a brown-noser and this should be his queue to bugger off somewhere else now. I thought it was hilarious when Freddie taunted her from the bedroom and Charlie decided to be the "big man". Has he forgotten what that bitch did to him the other day??

She's been crying for a good while but I've yet to see any tears. She is so ****ing hypocritical, she described Freddie's panic attack or whatever it was as a tantrum, but look at her now. She's gone off in a huff simply because Marcus did not back down and it is clear she's not getting her own way on this one, but she is expecting sympathy and Charlie is giving it to her. FÚCK OFF CHARLIE!!!

And Marcus was so relaxed about it all. I think he was watching in bemusement as she worked herself up into a frenzy over it.

Faded
13-08-2009, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by Enid
Okay, so so far from what I've seen of the fight, Marcus says she is negative, Bea is saying she's not (when she clearly is) and Charlie is being a brown-noser and this should be his queue to bugger off somewhere else now. I thought it was hilarious when Freddie taunted her from the bedroom and Charlie decided to be the "big man". Has he forgotten what that bitch did to him the other day??

She's been crying for a good while but I've yet to see any tears. She is so ****ing hypocritical, she described Freddie's panic attack or whatever it was as a tantrum, but look at her now. She's gone off in a huff simply because Marcus did not back down and it is clear she's not getting her own way on this one, but she is expecting sympathy and Charlie is giving it to her. FÚCK OFF CHARLIE!!!

And Marcus was so relaxed about it all. I think he was watching in bemusement as she worked herself up into a frenzy over it.
Never been a huge fan of Marcus but that's always one thing I've liked about him he never seems to get heated and lose his cool while trying to talk to someone even if the other person is having a real go.

setanta
13-08-2009, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
But you didn't read my question properly. I stated that Charlie had an agenda and I called it an attack - I wasn't asking you to compare and contrast everyone. My question was why Freddie had to get involved.

Sure you could hear him talking in the bedroom about it prior to coming out; his words carried into the living room on a number of occassions. As far as I'm concerned there was no value in involving himself in their argument-so yes, on those grounds it was a silly move.

i didnt read your question properly?are you joking?actually dont worry..lets make this simple king..

i agree with you,you are right..

and i was not accusing you of bias,i have read back my post to see why you would think i was calling you out for doing so,and the only mention in my post was this "i hope this gets shown with no bias on tonights highlight show" .. i was not refering to you brother..

you raised a good point with it being a silly move on freddies part..perhaps we just have a slightly diffrent take on things,so i shall agree to disagree..


gone

You were accusing me of bias from your tone and your defense of Freddie-referring to situations that had taken place over a month ago, along with examples from last night, to cement your claims- when I had never even suggested that one side was better or worse than the other.

okay lets just assume im not a liar or scared to tell you what i really feel?lets further assume we may not see eye to eye but if i disagree with you i am within my rights to?

now forgive me for being blunt... but king.. i have agreed for the most part with everything you have said,and let me make this clear,I WAS NOT ACCUSING YOU OF FCK ALL..so kindly brother quit trolling as i do not wish to curse in my post again..

if i thought you were being bias,i would've said..i did not,so you can assume,that i was not accusing you of such a thing unless i say otherwise..

once again...
gone

But you obviously didn't read the question I posted intitially; instead you decided to air your own views on the entire topic rather than deal with what I had stated. Don't you see the silliness of that? Why feel the need to give me your interpretation of what transpired when I never said that Charlie was justified in his actions, or that Freddie was abominable?

When you did mention Freddie it was by comparing him to Charlie and Bea which, again, wasn't related to my original question. You also said I was being mean and that it was a knee jerk reaction on my part.... what reaction? What meaness? I was just talking about Freddie in this particular moment, where I do believe he involved himself in an argument that wasn't his own.

I just don't understand the reasoning behind your digressions when I had not asked for them and had really just posed a very innocent and straightforward question, with no trace of bias or aggression.

setanta
13-08-2009, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
But you didn't read my question properly. I stated that Charlie had an agenda and I called it an attack - I wasn't asking you to compare and contrast everyone. My question was why Freddie had to get involved.

Sure you could hear him talking in the bedroom about it prior to coming out; his words carried into the living room on a number of occassions. As far as I'm concerned there was no value in involving himself in their argument-so yes, on those grounds it was a silly move.

i didnt read your question properly?are you joking?actually dont worry..lets make this simple king..

i agree with you,you are right..

and i was not accusing you of bias,i have read back my post to see why you would think i was calling you out for doing so,and the only mention in my post was this "i hope this gets shown with no bias on tonights highlight show" .. i was not refering to you brother..

you raised a good point with it being a silly move on freddies part..perhaps we just have a slightly diffrent take on things,so i shall agree to disagree..


gone

You were accusing me of bias from your tone and your defense of Freddie-referring to situations that had taken place over a month ago, along with examples from last night, to cement your claims- when I had never even suggested that one side was better or worse than the other.

okay lets just assume im not a liar or scared to tell you what i really feel?lets further assume we may not see eye to eye but if i disagree with you i am within my rights to?

now forgive me for being blunt... but king.. i have agreed for the most part with everything you have said,and let me make this clear,I WAS NOT ACCUSING YOU OF FCK ALL..so kindly brother quit trolling as i do not wish to curse in my post again..

if i thought you were being bias,i would've said..i did not,so you can assume,that i was not accusing you of such a thing unless i say otherwise..

once again...
gone

But you obviously didn't read the question I posted intitially; instead you decided to air your own views on the entire topic rather than deal with what I had stated. Don't you see the silliness of that? Why feel the need to give me your interpretation of what transpired when I never said that Charlie was justified in his actions, or that Freddie was abominable?

When you did mention Freddie it was by comparing him to Charlie and Bea which, again, wasn't related to my original question. You also said I was being mean and that it was a knee jerk reaction on my part.... what reaction? What meaness? I was just talking about Freddie in this particular moment, where I do believe he involved himself in an argument that wasn't his own.

I just don't understand the reasoning behind your digressions when I had not asked for them and had really just posed a very innocent and straightforward question, with no trace of bias or aggression.

Jack_
13-08-2009, 01:10 PM
Right just watched most of it and she is a ****ing nasty vile ****. Sorry, but anyone that supports her is a vile human being.

She deserves to get beaten up when she comes out, she's that ****ing evil.

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 01:13 PM
Jack, i feel your frustration, but thats a little strong, I don't like the witch at all, i'm just hoping she don't get any money out of this, because she sure don't deserve anything. Thing is she is going to be in the final week which is :mad:

Faded
13-08-2009, 01:14 PM
No idea how someone could be that much of a hypocrite, it was fine for her to destroy Freddie about the exact same thing but when it happens to her she's being bullied.

Blink_Me
13-08-2009, 01:18 PM
At the end of the day, she started the argument by talking bad about Freddie. She called him a tool and twat during that argument; Freddie wasn't even there to defend himself during when she said that, so she got everything she deserved in my opinion.

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by setanta
But you obviously didn't read the question I posted intitially; instead you decided to air your own views on the entire topic rather than deal with what I had stated. Don't you see the silliness of that? Why feel the need to give me your interpretation of what transpired when I never said that Charlie was justified in his actions, or that Freddie was abominable?

When you did mention Freddie it was by comparing him to Charlie and Bea which, again, wasn't related to my original question. You also said I was being mean and that it was a knee jerk reaction on my part.... what reaction? What meaness? I was just talking about Freddie in this particular moment, where I do believe he involved himself in an argument that wasn't his own.

I just don't understand the reasoning behind your digressions when I had not asked for them and had really just posed a very innocent and straightforward question, with no trace of bias or aggression.

brother you had this issue with me before,not watching a vt you had begged me too,whats it to you?you asked a question,and i read it,however your post was not towards me so i did not feel the need to answer it..

lol ill give you this one for free.. i was refering to charlie having a go at freddie based on his reaction,i was not calling you out as being mean to freddie lmao .. i understand why you may think i was refering to you..

but be clear,as i will not be exchanging wittisms with you in future,my reply to you was in no way meant to frustrate or rile you,infact i agreed with you and simply added a few of my own thoughts..

furthermore,my "tone" in any of my posts were not in any way trying to acuse you of bias.. take what im saying on face value and not on your interpretations of my posts in future..

Chuckyegg
13-08-2009, 01:19 PM
freddie is a d/ck for obvious reasons

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Chuckyegg
freddie is a d/ck for obvious reasons

there not obvious to me???:shrug:

setanta
13-08-2009, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
But you obviously didn't read the question I posted intitially; instead you decided to air your own views on the entire topic rather than deal with what I had stated. Don't you see the silliness of that? Why feel the need to give me your interpretation of what transpired when I never said that Charlie was justified in his actions, or that Freddie was abominable?

When you did mention Freddie it was by comparing him to Charlie and Bea which, again, wasn't related to my original question. You also said I was being mean and that it was a knee jerk reaction on my part.... what reaction? What meaness? I was just talking about Freddie in this particular moment, where I do believe he involved himself in an argument that wasn't his own.

I just don't understand the reasoning behind your digressions when I had not asked for them and had really just posed a very innocent and straightforward question, with no trace of bias or aggression.

brother you had this issue with me before,not watching a vt you had begged me too,whats it to you?you asked a question,and i read it,however your post was not towards me so i did not feel the need to answer it..

lol ill give you this one for free.. i was refering to charlie having a go at freddie based on his reaction,i was not calling you out as being mean to freddie lmao .. i understand why you may think i was refering to you..

but be clear,as i will not be exchanging wittisms with you in future,my reply to you was in no way meant to frustrate or rile you,infact i agreed with you and simply added a few of my own thoughts..

furthermore,my "tone" in any of my posts were not in any way trying to acuse you of bias.. take what im saying on face value and not on your interpretations of my posts in future..

Ah come on Tinted, you meant that my jumping at his knee jerk reaction was mean and then you impressed upon me that his response was nothing compared to the sh£te that Bea and Charlie have been doing throughout the show.

And yeah, you never did watch the vt.

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 01:31 PM
setanta , are you related to Bea?? :whistle:

setanta
13-08-2009, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by sophie1955
setanta , are you related to Bea?? :whistle:

Lol, I hate the woman why?

tintedshadow
13-08-2009, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
But you obviously didn't read the question I posted intitially; instead you decided to air your own views on the entire topic rather than deal with what I had stated. Don't you see the silliness of that? Why feel the need to give me your interpretation of what transpired when I never said that Charlie was justified in his actions, or that Freddie was abominable?

When you did mention Freddie it was by comparing him to Charlie and Bea which, again, wasn't related to my original question. You also said I was being mean and that it was a knee jerk reaction on my part.... what reaction? What meaness? I was just talking about Freddie in this particular moment, where I do believe he involved himself in an argument that wasn't his own.

I just don't understand the reasoning behind your digressions when I had not asked for them and had really just posed a very innocent and straightforward question, with no trace of bias or aggression.

brother you had this issue with me before,not watching a vt you had begged me too,whats it to you?you asked a question,and i read it,however your post was not towards me so i did not feel the need to answer it..

lol ill give you this one for free.. i was refering to charlie having a go at freddie based on his reaction,i was not calling you out as being mean to freddie lmao .. i understand why you may think i was refering to you..

but be clear,as i will not be exchanging wittisms with you in future,my reply to you was in no way meant to frustrate or rile you,infact i agreed with you and simply added a few of my own thoughts..

furthermore,my "tone" in any of my posts were not in any way trying to acuse you of bias.. take what im saying on face value and not on your interpretations of my posts in future..

Ah come on Tinted, you meant that my jumping at his knee jerk reaction was mean and then you impressed upon me that his response was nothing compared to the sh£te that Bea and Charlie have been doing throughout the show.

And yeah, you never did watch the vt.

okay now i have said this once before and shall do so once last time...do not read in to my posts when i am telling you what i meant,theres no need to read between the lines when im being this blunt..

YOU ARE RIGHT,i agree with you.. what i was saying was charlie having a go at freddies knee jerk reaction was mean,that is why freddie was so fired up,nothing more.. do not read in to things anymore king..

im hoping that vt comment was meant in jest,otherwise id be saying brother it really should not be of any concern to you whether i watch noirins vt or not,you have asked others to watch it,and they have,why you feel i must oblige you i dont know,although i explained on many occasions if you wernt trolling i would gladly heed what you had said and watched the vt..

i wont be repeating myself anymore brother as this thread is not about me or your trolling abilities so listen,i was not accusing you of bias in any way,if you saw it that way then i apologise king..

now there really is nothing more to be said..


gone...

sophie1955
13-08-2009, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by sophie1955
setanta , are you related to Bea?? :whistle:

Lol, I hate the woman why?

because to never give up :laugh2:

setanta
13-08-2009, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by setanta
But you obviously didn't read the question I posted intitially; instead you decided to air your own views on the entire topic rather than deal with what I had stated. Don't you see the silliness of that? Why feel the need to give me your interpretation of what transpired when I never said that Charlie was justified in his actions, or that Freddie was abominable?

When you did mention Freddie it was by comparing him to Charlie and Bea which, again, wasn't related to my original question. You also said I was being mean and that it was a knee jerk reaction on my part.... what reaction? What meaness? I was just talking about Freddie in this particular moment, where I do believe he involved himself in an argument that wasn't his own.

I just don't understand the reasoning behind your digressions when I had not asked for them and had really just posed a very innocent and straightforward question, with no trace of bias or aggression.

brother you had this issue with me before,not watching a vt you had begged me too,whats it to you?you asked a question,and i read it,however your post was not towards me so i did not feel the need to answer it..

lol ill give you this one for free.. i was refering to charlie having a go at freddie based on his reaction,i was not calling you out as being mean to freddie lmao .. i understand why you may think i was refering to you..

but be clear,as i will not be exchanging wittisms with you in future,my reply to you was in no way meant to frustrate or rile you,infact i agreed with you and simply added a few of my own thoughts..

furthermore,my "tone" in any of my posts were not in any way trying to acuse you of bias.. take what im saying on face value and not on your interpretations of my posts in future..

Ah come on Tinted, you meant that my jumping at his knee jerk reaction was mean and then you impressed upon me that his response was nothing compared to the sh£te that Bea and Charlie have been doing throughout the show.

And yeah, you never did watch the vt.

okay now i have said this once before and shall do so once last time...do not read in to my posts when i am telling you what i meant,theres no need to read between the lines when im being this blunt..

YOU ARE RIGHT,i agree with you.. what i was saying was charlie having a go at freddies knee jerk reaction was mean,that is why freddie was so fired up,nothing more.. do not read in to things anymore king..

im hoping that vt comment was meant in jest,otherwise id be saying brother it really should not be of any concern to you whether i watch noirins vt or not,you have asked others to watch it,and they have,why you feel i must oblige you i dont know,although i explained on many occasions if you wernt trolling i would gladly heed what you had said and watched the vt..

i wont be repeating myself anymore brother as this thread is not about me or your trolling abilities so listen,i was not accusing you of bias in any way,if you saw it that way then i apologise king..

now there really is nothing more to be said..


gone...

So if you agree with me why go off and one and defend Freddie by comparing him with Bea? Why the lengthy comment and retorts? And I still think the jumping and mean was in reference to me because of the context of the entire comment you posted.

But anyway, yeah, enough of this.

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 01:53 PM
Not a tear to be seen :whistle:

http://www.vol.nl/images/caps/2009/224/9504744244a837e2abf2e5.jpg

BB22
13-08-2009, 02:01 PM
Ok, the video of this is up on the official site now. Although it obviously only covers a small part of what happened it does give some footage from inside the bedroom which confirms that Freddie was reacting specifically to the "If you can't take it, don't dish it out" comment.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/39f44a29b83779a3efdb1a147cc78115/play.c4

Josy
13-08-2009, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Marcjswp
WTF its weird how she's speaking as if she's crying yet there are no tears in those eyes... hmmmmmm

I agree :thumbs: i was just actually going to post what you did lol

Typical Argument with Bea = She says whatever she likes to you then that stupid oh im going to cry now look appears, her voice rises up a few decibels and she tells you how much you have upset her and how negative you are etc, then it just loops and she spews the same **** over and over again :bored:

keyo
13-08-2009, 02:12 PM
Bea maybe its a result of a unstable personality disorder, some clues here? 1. marked tendency to act unexpectedly and without consideration of the consequences; 2. marked tendency to quarrelsome behaviour and to conflicts with others, especially when impulsive acts are thwarted or criticized; 3. liability to outbursts of anger or violence, with inability to control the resulting behavioural explosions; 4. difficulty in maintaining any course of action that offers no immediate reward; 5. unstable and capricious mood.

Also Charlie Snides disturbing hatred of Freddie should be looked into.

bb10fan1
13-08-2009, 02:15 PM
mickey 2009thanks so much for that i wish i had known about this website before

Blink_Me
13-08-2009, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by BB22
Ok, the video of this is up on the official site now. Although it obviously only covers a small part of what happened it does give some footage from inside the bedroom which confirms that Freddie was reacting specifically to the "If you can't take it, don't dish it out" comment.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/39f44a29b83779a3efdb1a147cc78115/play.c4

I hope they use that in the highlight show, because it makes Marcus and Freddie look good and it makes Bea look like a drama queen and a bitch.

cleaner67
13-08-2009, 02:20 PM
A big thank you Mickey2009 for the video`s, couldn`t stay up and watch last night due to early shift at work.

Faded
13-08-2009, 02:22 PM
I LOVE how she said "If someone doesn't want to hear what's true maybe they should change themselves" errr hello earth to Bea practice what you preach.

Benjamin
13-08-2009, 02:26 PM
God I hope Freddie goes tomorrow. He is such a muppet.

Charlie is 100% right about him.

Marcus on the otherhand won me back over the way he handles the situation.

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 02:52 PM
Oh dont be thanking me folks i only put the links up it was all Mr Marky's hard work

http://www.mrmarky.co.uk/

Homogoldfish
13-08-2009, 03:06 PM
CHRIST! I wish she would just shut the **** up about being positive. IT'S SUCH A ****ING FARCE!!!

She and Lisa are the most negative forces in that house!

Adamw92
13-08-2009, 03:07 PM
Let's hope theres more arguements like that to come, preferrably this week

fitz2k2
13-08-2009, 03:11 PM
Bea three favorite words "negaitivity", "victim", "freddie".Notice when she cries a 3rd person always has to be there or she plays up to the camera.Hhahaha bea such a child she going to go tell on marcus when he hasnt dont naything but tell the truth.Charlie soo gullable.Bea did same thing to freddie.when bea fake cries it making me laugh soo hard.I was starting to like charlie ,but not anymore.Hahah charlie doesnt know big words mean lol.Quote marcus "you never see me upset" .Now i hate charlie.

scot
13-08-2009, 03:14 PM
yeah saw this last night...of course it all depends on the edit.

They can edit this and show Marcus as a right c~nt, what with Bea bubbling etc.

Or they can edit it to reflect what actually hapened....i.e. a snidey Bea being put in her place.

oh.really
13-08-2009, 03:16 PM
Who the hell does Charlie think he is 'I don't want to hear another word about it tomorrow coz it's upsets me seeing you upset!'

Did he stick his nose in and get upset when Lisa was poking her finger at Freddies head.

Does he get upset when he knows he's set Rodders off on one again. FAKE FAKE FAKE, I can't wait till he goes. Why can't we have a double eviction for him and Lisa!

He's such an eavesdropping, **** stirring, interfering fanny.

DoM-h
13-08-2009, 04:07 PM
Bea says 'Don't give it out if you can't take it'

She started on Marcus and then started crying when he gave it back.


So who is the one who can't take it?

That's right it's you Bea

modena
13-08-2009, 04:12 PM
Someone needs to gag her!
She never lets up and Charlie's as bad, it's like listening to a pair of broken records.

Yay for Marcus, the only one who spoke ANY sense at all.

andyman
13-08-2009, 04:20 PM
The viewers tonight will see right through her fake crybaby act and will agree with Marcus..

The dumb viewers will only notice the crying after not understanding what Bea and Marcus were saying, then the dumb viewers that use forums will make threads like.. "OMGZ! MARCUS IS A BULLY, GET HIM OUT!"

Yep sh*t like that.

Linto99
13-08-2009, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by BB22
Apparently, Charlie has never seen Bea being negative. Astounding. I think he must be walking around the House with a bag over his head and a pair of ear-muffs on.

That's because he's a tad thick and hears and sees what he wants to!

andyman
13-08-2009, 04:32 PM
Marcus needs to stay tomorrow, if Marcus is evicted then Freddie will only crumble with all sly attacks by other housemates.

If Marcus stays then he will take on the nasties and use Logic to win the day.. If he is evicted then true good logic will also be evicted from the house.

Freddie will be left with the vile wolves.. But whoever stays they will be up for eviction next week with Siavash, week after that up against Bea..

Sophie or Charlie will win BB10.. Victory for the dk heads and worse winner in BB history of all the BB's around the world.

Roll on BB11 (Could be last UK BB)

RexFTW
13-08-2009, 04:41 PM
Bea WAS NOT crying, there were no tears. Fact.

Charlie did his usual attention seeking b*llocks. He is a liar and a Bully. Fact.

Freddie was right to laugh at Bea's "if u cant take it, dont give it" fallacy. Everyone watching had the exact same reaction when hearing Bea's staggering hypocracy. Fact.

Marcus was too nice, he could(and should) have given Bea(and charlie) much worse. Fact.

RexFTW

frigid_slag
13-08-2009, 04:48 PM
So it's ok for Bea to speak her mind but not Marcus, yeah that's fair isn't it Bea. She is going to be crucified when she gets out.

BBmassive
13-08-2009, 04:50 PM
Freddie storming out of the bedroom after laughing at Bea being upset :mad::mad: what a nasty,grotty LITTLE man he is ,God I hope he goes tomorrow

BBmassive
13-08-2009, 04:51 PM
Thats 2 peoples face this wank*r has laughed in in one week I HOPE they laugh in his mush on Friday night

Kazanne
13-08-2009, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Thats 2 peoples face this wank*r has laughed in in one week I HOPE they laugh in his mush on Friday night

You clearly ARE blind where freddie is concerned,this has all been disgussed,do you actually READ any posts.he did not laugh at Bea in tears he laughed at what was said,go look it up but I doubt you'de understand anyway

BBmassive
13-08-2009, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by kazanne
Originally posted by BBmassive
Thats 2 peoples face this wank*r has laughed in in one week I HOPE they laugh in his mush on Friday night

You clearly ARE blind where freddie is concerned,this has all been disgussed,do you actually READ any posts.he did not laugh at Bea in tears he laughed at what was said,go look it up but I doubt you'de understand anyway Is that personal by any chance ? I HAVE watched the tapes ,FREDDIE the young lads bum seller was BANG out of order

sg160187
13-08-2009, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Freddie storming out of the bedroom after laughing at Bea being upset :mad::mad: what a nasty,grotty LITTLE man he is ,God I hope he goes tomorrow

If everytime i read one of your posts you didn't automatically attack captain cool or freddie I'd take you seriously!

Watch the footage you will hear the laughter when Bea shouts
'if you can't take it don't give it'

Pure double standards he had the right to laugh it was charlie who went and got freddie involved and then ripped into him without letting him get a word in.

Get your facts straight next time!

BBmassive
13-08-2009, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by sg160187
Originally posted by BBmassive
Freddie storming out of the bedroom after laughing at Bea being upset :mad::mad: what a nasty,grotty LITTLE man he is ,God I hope he goes tomorrow

If everytime i read one of your posts you didn't automatically attack captain cool or freddie I'd take you seriously!

Watch the footage you will hear the laughter when Bea shouts
'if you can't take it don't give it'

Pure double standards he had the right to laugh it was charlie who went and got freddie involved and then ripped into him without letting him get a word in.

Get your facts straight next time! Why did the pathetic little creep have to even come out of the bedroom ? TO CAUSE TROUBLE ,no other reason

RexFTW
13-08-2009, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Is that personal by any chance ? I HAVE watched the tapes ,FREDDIE the young lads bum seller was BANG out of order

You are clearly blinded by your idotic bias. Are you male? beacause your lack of logical skills is troubling.

sg160187
13-08-2009, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by sg160187
Originally posted by BBmassive
Freddie storming out of the bedroom after laughing at Bea being upset :mad::mad: what a nasty,grotty LITTLE man he is ,God I hope he goes tomorrow

If everytime i read one of your posts you didn't automatically attack captain cool or freddie I'd take you seriously!

Watch the footage you will hear the laughter when Bea shouts
'if you can't take it don't give it'

Pure double standards he had the right to laugh it was charlie who went and got freddie involved and then ripped into him without letting him get a word in.

Get your facts straight next time! Why did the pathetic little creep have to even come out of the bedroom ? TO CAUSE TROUBLE ,no other reason

Because charlie was goading him you numpty! I've already told you go watch the footage again watch it with a neutral bias before you spout off your garbage!

bansheewails
13-08-2009, 05:10 PM
Freddie came out of the bedroom because Charlie woke him and he could hear Bea screeching his name. i would have wanted to hear what was going on. He didn't laugh in Bea's face cause he wasn't in the same room.

Marcus did the right thing in pursauding freddie to go back to bed, because he knew it would decend into a bitch-fest with Charlie and Bea, who had been itching for a go all night.

BBmassive
13-08-2009, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by sg160187
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by sg160187
Originally posted by BBmassive
Freddie storming out of the bedroom after laughing at Bea being upset :mad::mad: what a nasty,grotty LITTLE man he is ,God I hope he goes tomorrow

If everytime i read one of your posts you didn't automatically attack captain cool or freddie I'd take you seriously!

Watch the footage you will hear the laughter when Bea shouts
'if you can't take it don't give it'

Pure double standards he had the right to laugh it was charlie who went and got freddie involved and then ripped into him without letting him get a word in.

Get your facts straight next time! Why did the pathetic little creep have to even come out of the bedroom ? TO CAUSE TROUBLE ,no other reason

Because charlie was goading him you numpty! I've already told you go watch the footage again watch it with a neutral bias before you spout off your garbage! NOTHING to do with Charlie ,Jesus wept :rolleyes::pat:

BBmassive
13-08-2009, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by sg160187
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by sg160187
Originally posted by BBmassive
Freddie storming out of the bedroom after laughing at Bea being upset :mad::mad: what a nasty,grotty LITTLE man he is ,God I hope he goes tomorrow

If everytime i read one of your posts you didn't automatically attack captain cool or freddie I'd take you seriously!

Watch the footage you will hear the laughter when Bea shouts
'if you can't take it don't give it'

Pure double standards he had the right to laugh it was charlie who went and got freddie involved and then ripped into him without letting him get a word in.

Get your facts straight next time! Why did the pathetic little creep have to even come out of the bedroom ? TO CAUSE TROUBLE ,no other reason

Because charlie was goading him you numpty! I've already told you go watch the footage again watch it with a neutral bias before you spout off your garbage! Do NOT call me a numpty ,thank you

sg160187
13-08-2009, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by sg160187
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by sg160187
Originally posted by BBmassive
Freddie storming out of the bedroom after laughing at Bea being upset :mad::mad: what a nasty,grotty LITTLE man he is ,God I hope he goes tomorrow

If everytime i read one of your posts you didn't automatically attack captain cool or freddie I'd take you seriously!

Watch the footage you will hear the laughter when Bea shouts
'if you can't take it don't give it'

Pure double standards he had the right to laugh it was charlie who went and got freddie involved and then ripped into him without letting him get a word in.

Get your facts straight next time! Why did the pathetic little creep have to even come out of the bedroom ? TO CAUSE TROUBLE ,no other reason

Because charlie was goading him you numpty! I've already told you go watch the footage again watch it with a neutral bias before you spout off your garbage! NOTHING to do with Charlie ,Jesus wept :rolleyes::pat:

I'll call you what i like and won't take orders from anyone in an internet chatroom :thumbs: act like a numpty you get called a numpty. Your bias still astounds me how anyone can be so wrong is beyond me I'm off out but after you've watched the footage of charlie getting freddie involved then we can continue

RexFTW
13-08-2009, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Do NOT call me a numpty ,thank you

But you obviously ARE a numpty.

Can't you see it?

I can see why u empathise with Bea.

coolestrocknrollstar
13-08-2009, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by BB22
Interesting footage.

It looks to me as if Marcus had no intention of getting into any kind of row with Bea. The conversation kind of ebbed of its own accord in a certain direction and Marcus started telling Bea a few home truths. Pretty much everything Marcus told her was justified.

The row itself, if you can call it that, was a real rope-a-dope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope-a-dope) from Marcus. He was just lying back, fairly relaxed, making one or two comments and letting Bea punch herself out, sending the occasional riposte back at her. It wasn't so much Marcus trying to "defeat" her. He just let herself work herself up into a kind of frenzy.

This incident really provides more evidence to back up my assessment of Bea. She strikes me as someone who has coasted through life with nobody telling her she was doing anything wrong, ever. And now she is here in a completely different environment with some people who are not just going to roll over and let her have her way and she simply cannot handle it. Hence all this talk about how shocked and "upset" she is when someone even hints that she may not be a little rainbow in everyone's dreary lives.

This is an excellent comment,,,i totally agree with the last bit,,,,all she has heard is ppl telling her she is intelligent,,,however marcus completely out thought her,,,i hope this keeps marcus in imo the show would be poorer without him

BBmassive
13-08-2009, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by RexFTW
Originally posted by BBmassive
Do NOT call me a numpty ,thank you

But you obviously ARE a numpty.

Can't you see it?

I can see why u empathise with Bea. But you are not allowed to make personal slurs on members on this forum ...bye :xyxwave:

phebes
13-08-2009, 05:49 PM
jeeesus, she's one strange bitch...... negative/positive/negative/positive.
needs to widen her vocabulary, silly negative cow...i say that in a positive way though!

coolestrocknrollstar
13-08-2009, 05:58 PM
I actually was watching this when it happened (on holiday from work lo),,,imo marcus was correct in everything he said,,,he never once raised his voiced,,he made his opinions concise and succinct and just because she knew he was right,,,she started corcodile tears and calling him a bully,.

I hope bb do not edit the **** out of this and show it in a fair way,,,i believe marcus really has earnt the right to stay in the house for putting this bitch in her place.

Tenantry
13-08-2009, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by shash
Thanks again for this, Mickey2009 ... +karma for you :thumbs:

Ditto!

Just watched the lot missed BB LF last night as I was out on the lash! Not feeling to good right now though.:whistle:

abrittan
13-08-2009, 06:37 PM
Well the "row" beats watching the sad *********rs smoking at the bustop.
Keep Marcus IN he will have Bea for breakfast!

WOMBAI
13-08-2009, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by frigid_slag
So it's ok for Bea to speak her mind but not Marcus, yeah that's fair isn't it Bea. She is going to be crucified when she gets out.

Sorry - but that attitude makes people no better than she is!

Any attempts to 'crucify' her would simply be the worst kind of bullying!

Sendemolaway
13-08-2009, 06:48 PM
She is an idiot and if she has a Psychology Degree then it must be 2.2 or third class one for she is a thick as a plank.

When she is challenged she struggles to find a decent response related to the point under discussion, rather she tries to make the other person think they are stupid so that she seems to be the one with the brains, when in fact she hasn't got the brains to think through an argument and back it up with facts.

markmarc
13-08-2009, 06:57 PM
ah i love bea so much
marcus and bea are my favourite housemates this year

Lewis.
13-08-2009, 06:57 PM
nice arguement. haha. Freddie only got up to be nosey. :laugh:

Sendemolaway
13-08-2009, 07:02 PM
She keeps playing the ''I am really down'' she is an idiot. The fake tears again, why the hell doesn't she go. The bitch is a loser get her out and take her little gay lapdog with her. When she is losing an argument she puts on the tears and hurt routine then she comes back again to emphsise the point get her out.

She's doing her Bonny Langford act again. Charlie is such a knob.

BB22
13-08-2009, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by BBmassive
Freddie storming out of the bedroom after laughing at Bea being upset

This has been discussed in several threads and basically refuted. The video on the official site makes the sequence of events quite clear.

NolasGirl
13-08-2009, 07:39 PM
This woman is a psycho. She needs to be removed by the men in white coats.

Sendemolaway
13-08-2009, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by NolasGirl
This woman is a psycho. She needs to be removed by the men in white coats.

Yep but it would have to be positive men in white coats otherwise she would spend an entire episode arguing the toss with them and telling them they are bullying her.

Mickey2009
13-08-2009, 08:15 PM
Bea in the Diary Room crying after the row
http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/35b5e2593264f4cf12dde414318e9218/play.c4

Tenantry
13-08-2009, 08:20 PM
Notice how BB laffed when she came into the DR lol

shash
13-08-2009, 10:36 PM
bump