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delta
13-08-2009, 02:27 PM
Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily
delta
13-08-2009, 02:31 PM
Well 98% of that is Bea down to a tee.
The other 2% no doubt we will find out when she exits the BB house.
The_Long_Run
13-08-2009, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by delta
Well 98% of that is Bea down to a tee.
The other 2% no doubt we will find out when she exits the BB house.
All a matter of perspective then. I can't see it.
It is a complex diagnosis and the term is often used simply as a term of abuse.
delta
13-08-2009, 02:37 PM
All a matter of perspective then. I can't see it.
It is a complex diagnosis and the term is often used simply as a term of abuse.
When is the next feeding of your labrador?
bigmalky
13-08-2009, 02:38 PM
Narcissism is a more probable concept. A bit like Noirin...
ElProximo
13-08-2009, 02:43 PM
I cant think of any left in the house.
Noirin was what I described as something 'borderline Sociopath' and Kenneth is just a full-on classic Sociopath if there ever was one.
I know people are saying Bea fits the bill but I have to tell you that the magic of Bea is that she is some sort of fantastic chimera that you almost love to see baffling the professionals with what can only be classified as 'WTFism'.
Its like wondering what would happen if a sociopath was also schizophrenic and also narcissistic but had a high IQ and...
.. I suppose BB Psychology staff members are still standing around wondering what the hell they are going to make of this.
I just call it 'Harpy Syndrome'.
bigmalky
13-08-2009, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by ElProximo
I cant think of any left in the house.
Noirin was what I described as something 'borderline Sociopath' and Kenneth is just a full-on classic Sociopath if there ever was one.
I know people are saying Bea fits the bill but I have to tell you that the magic of Bea is that she is some sort of fantastic chimera that you almost love to see baffling the professionals with what can only be classified as 'WTFism'.
Its like wondering what would happen if a sociopath was also schizophrenic and also narcissistic but had a high IQ and...
.. I suppose BB Psychology staff members are still standing around wondering what the hell they are going to make of this.
I just call it 'Harpy Syndrome'.
Sociopaths and Narcissists usually do have a very high IQ, it's one of their features.
Originally posted by bigmalky
Originally posted by ElProximo
I cant think of any left in the house.
Noirin was what I described as something 'borderline Sociopath' and Kenneth is just a full-on classic Sociopath if there ever was one.
I know people are saying Bea fits the bill but I have to tell you that the magic of Bea is that she is some sort of fantastic chimera that you almost love to see baffling the professionals with what can only be classified as 'WTFism'.
Its like wondering what would happen if a sociopath was also schizophrenic and also narcissistic but had a high IQ and...
.. I suppose BB Psychology staff members are still standing around wondering what the hell they are going to make of this.
I just call it 'Harpy Syndrome'.
Sociopaths and Narcissists usually do have a very high IQ, it's one of their features.
Stop it, I've got quite a high IQ and some of those descriptions fit me :sad:
WOMBAI
13-08-2009, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by delta
Well 98% of that is Bea down to a tee.
The other 2% no doubt we will find out when she exits the BB house.
Sounds more like Marcus to me!!
Stupid thread!
InOne
13-08-2009, 03:08 PM
Kenny for me was not a Sociopath, he was just blinded by money. Yes he may have had some of the traits, but he let something like contraceptive pills drive him crazy. Even make him cry, he was weak in the end and just put on an act, plus he even admitted women were his weakness.
WOMBAI
13-08-2009, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by InOne
Kenny for me was not a Sociopath, he was just blinded by money. Yes he may have had some of the traits, but he let something like contraceptive pills drive him crazy. Even make him cry, he was weak in the end and just put on an act, plus he even admitted women were his weakness.
Someone was saying something on here a while back that Kenny had a history of threatening people and beating up his girlfriends!
If true - then that would pretty much make him a sociopath!
TrafficoneMan
13-08-2009, 03:18 PM
that realy does sound like Bea
BigBrotherfan4ever
13-08-2009, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by delta
Well 98% of that is Bea down to a tee.
The other 2% no doubt we will find out when she exits the BB house.
Sounds more like Marcus to me!!
Stupid thread! Would totally agree with that COMMONSENSE:thumbs:
bigmalky
13-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by bigmalky
Originally posted by ElProximo
I cant think of any left in the house.
Noirin was what I described as something 'borderline Sociopath' and Kenneth is just a full-on classic Sociopath if there ever was one.
I know people are saying Bea fits the bill but I have to tell you that the magic of Bea is that she is some sort of fantastic chimera that you almost love to see baffling the professionals with what can only be classified as 'WTFism'.
Its like wondering what would happen if a sociopath was also schizophrenic and also narcissistic but had a high IQ and...
.. I suppose BB Psychology staff members are still standing around wondering what the hell they are going to make of this.
I just call it 'Harpy Syndrome'.
Sociopaths and Narcissists usually do have a very high IQ, it's one of their features.
Stop it, I've got quite a high IQ and some of those descriptions fit me :sad:
You're alright mate, I have a high IQ and display one or two but that's normal for every human being, we're allowed to have the concept of pride or strong opinion.
Just worry if you have 4 or more dude :thumbs:
halfacrown
13-08-2009, 03:39 PM
I thought the term was used for characters like Hannibal Lecter. The description is interesting though. I'm guessing that Bea has been allowed to get away with her behaviour all her life (notwithstanding the sackings and exclusion from schools we hear about). I'd look at mum and dad, if I were looking for clues.
Prole
13-08-2009, 03:45 PM
Ahhh... another amateur psychology thread. Excellent... it's been hours.
InOne
13-08-2009, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by InOne
Kenny for me was not a Sociopath, he was just blinded by money. Yes he may have had some of the traits, but he let something like contraceptive pills drive him crazy. Even make him cry, he was weak in the end and just put on an act, plus he even admitted women were his weakness.
Someone was saying something on here a while back that Kenny had a history of threatening people and beating up his girlfriends!
If true - then that would pretty much make him a sociopath!
In that case then maybe yeah lol but still we don't have proof.
masonbason
13-08-2009, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by delta
Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily
I have gone fed up of reading threads of he\she is a sociopath.
I have also been guilty of doing this, i admit.
Join the overcrowded room of BB psychologists specialised in sociopathy.
InOne
13-08-2009, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by masonbason
Originally posted by delta
Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily
I have gone fed up of reading threads of he\she is a sociopath.
I have also been guilty of doing this, i admit.
Join the overcrowded room of BB psychologists specialised in sociopathy.
I would prefer to talk about Sociopaths rather than half the garbage that is posted on here.
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