Is Lisa as bad as she is made out to be?!

[Cody™]

I detested Lisa up until last week. I now think that Lisa isnt clever enough to be manipulative like people say. I just think she just wants to stay clear of people she dislikes to avoid arguments [cos she is aware of her temper] and just enjoy smoking away lol. I thought this since Bea has entered her camp cos she could have easily used Bea to make things worse for Freddie and even for Marcus but she didnt. Infact she told David to be careful. That made me think that she genuinely isnt looking for trouble.

Im not saying i like her. I dont. But i dont think she is evil or manipulative any more.

What dyu think?

[Beastie]

yes

[aoq2008]

i wud fuk lisa

[SurferJay]

she was drunk and shouting last night when poor roddy was trying to sleep.

just when i was started to warm up to her

[amy-jayne]

People on this forum are blinded by what happened at the start of the show. Lisa has been nice and friendly these past few weeks, shes had good chats with the other HM's, like Marcus by the pool the other night, shes quite understanding.
She wants to mind her own business, thats it, the only arguments that happened the past few weeks have been provoked by freddie

[Patricia4]

I still dont like Lisa I wont forget how bad she was its all a show now to get in the final she's sly.:yuk:

[charliegimbert]

Originally posted by amy-jayne
People on this forum are blinded by what happened at the start of the show. Lisa has been nice and friendly these past few weeks, shes had good chats with the other HM's, like Marcus by the pool the other night, shes quite understanding.
She wants to mind her own business, thats it, the only arguments that happened the past few weeks have been provoked by freddie

BS. she is a bully and manipulator

[amy-jayne]

Originally posted by charliegimbert
Originally posted by amy-jayne
People on this forum are blinded by what happened at the start of the show. Lisa has been nice and friendly these past few weeks, shes had good chats with the other HM's, like Marcus by the pool the other night, shes quite understanding.
She wants to mind her own business, thats it, the only arguments that happened the past few weeks have been provoked by freddie

BS. she is a bully and manipulator
LOL, and how exactly has she been a bully, thats a harsh word Im afraid.
Plus its a bloody gameshow ffs, who cares if anyone manipulates, isnt that the whole point, it is a game, I think people forget that.

[merv]

Editing over the last week or so as ommited her bad stuff, and just focused on Bea n Freddie.
Lisa is very streetwise and knows how to fight dirty.
She aint done yet.

[youloveit]

I do think both her and Marcus have nice sides to themselves but put up some sort of front to mask hurt feelings. I can't help but love to hate them both.

[merv]

"I do think both her and Marcus have nice sides to themselves but put up some sort of front to mask hurt feelings. "

Funny, thats exactly what lisa said:laugh2:

[sooty]

She was nasty and bully. She only stopped when she realised Freddie might be popular outside. Clever.

But she looks after her friends well and very loyal.

I still want her to be out next.

[jegmeister]

yes she is - she has now stopped because she has got what she wants but people on here are starting to be conned by her

[oh.really]

She only changed to keep herself under the radar. She's absolutely foul. People forget how she kept saying she hadn't done anything to Freddie when she knows exactly what she did.

She says it as it is ......bullshit, when it suits and all that!

[Twiggy]

Absolutely not!

[jimmymckooel]

she isn't all bad but at the start when it became clear that her rival freddy was popular she did make herself more socially acceptable by being less arguementative and singing in front of the cameras aswell as adopting a no rule break policy later on. I think she's aware that she would be unpopular on the outside and is doing her best to avoid nomination and become more paletable to the public.

[zukhov]

Lisa and Marcus are my faves at the moment. She has had a raw deal, ok she hated Fred, but you got to admit he must be hell to live with for somone like her.

[jimmymckooel]

Originally posted by zukhov
Lisa and Marcus are my faves at the moment. She has had a raw deal, ok she hated Fred, but you got to admit he must be hell to live with for somone like her.

heh, yeah. I guess he's on the rich peoples dole...and normal too apparantley

[AhmedFan2004]

She's my fave, has been for ages now, she's a great person through and through. Always caring, honest, no nonsense, friendly, loyal, trustworthy, etc. She's been the mother and rock of that house. Ulrika Johnsson knows best. :thumbs:

[hannahfinal]

I think lisa and david are compleate ledgends to be honest!

[delta]

In a word - YES.


I would fcukk her too, it would involve a piece of 2X3 and 6" nails-though.

[Luanda]

Anyone else noticed she never looks other housemates in the eye when talking to them?

Definitely shifty

[delta]

She is playing the game now, she can smell the Wonga.


Nicey, nicey.


Imho- her or Charlie out next.

[BBmassive]

She is a nice person IMO ,she is supportive of the others and a good listener ,she deserves her place in the final

[Nigeria_Bob]

Sly operator :yuk:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Shes okay at the moment, she was horrible at the start how she treated freddie........ but i ahte to say she seems to care about other hosuemates.... but i got forgive what she did at the start!

[shams79]

yes she is the only reason why she has mellow is because there is only two weeks left and she thinks she is going to win

[Nigeria_Bob]

She tells other what to think too much, projecting what she thinks on e.g., dogface, she
doesn't take other perspectives on board, because being older you must be wiser (doh!).
Which also explains why she is intimidated by intelligent people and collects dumbells around
her, loyal and consistent yes… needs to overcome her insecurities and stop smothering people.

:eureka:

[karezza]

Lisa and her nasty little gang - Karly, Charlie, Sree and Kris - bullied Freddie. She only modified her behaviour when information leaked into the house that she was hated & that Freddie was popular.

Inside she is still a horrible, vile, nasty creature.

[BB22]

How she is "made out to be" is really an enduring judgement based on her behaviour in the first four or five weeks. I doubt her character has changed significantly since then.

[Kazanne]

I can't forgive how she was as leader of the nasty gang,she obviously has that bullying trait in her so for me Lisa'a bullying of Freddie has cost her dearly,seems Freddie is unintetionally bringing a lot of them down,bullying is nasty it can destroy people.remember that folks.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Lisa exposé

1) Collect people you're able to influence into a group
(those that either look up, respect or are afraid of you).

2) Influence them, projecting your viewpoint
(through repetition, while ignoring theirs).

3) Select a target, as a focus for nominations
(against those she cannot control, instigating bitching sessions).

4) Hide behind the very people you influence
(so to be seen as a lesser evil, which was why other members of her group were evicted).

[karezza]

She has a very low IQ - 55 - but she is still a cunning reptile.

:yuk:

[Nigeria_Bob]

Simply a bully functioning at the most basic level. Nothing elaborate like Bea.

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
Lisa exposé

1) Collect people you're able to influence into a group
(those that either look up, respect or are afraid of you).

2) Influence them, projecting your viewpoint
(through repetition, while ignoring theirs).

3) Select a target, as a focus for nominations
(against those she cannot control, instigating bitching sessions).

4) Hide behind the very people you influence
(so to be seen as a lesser evil, which was why other members of her group were evicted).

Yes.
Really that is how she rolls.
I'd also throw some credit to her for intermittent floating or to say she just knows when to step back and into the shadows if and when someone else is trying to destroy her target.
Namely - Bea attacking Freddy on her own. Lisa gives 'silent approval' and basically agrees 'not to interfere' and lets it happen.
Steps back in when its over.

I 'would' resent Lisa doing these sorts of things except over and over again the 'target' or 'victim' has just fukking ASKED FOR IT or is a douchbag who deserves it after all.

Lisa doesn't do this to innocents. That is what I like about it.

[aremjay]

However she appears now I can't forget the early days when she was a rampant screaming bully (or monster if you prefer). IMO she's lucky she wasn't thrown out.

[aremjay]

Originally posted by karezza
Lisa and her nasty little gang - Karly, Charlie, Sree and Kris - bullied Freddie. She only modified her behaviour when information leaked into the house that she was hated & tha Freddie was popular.

Inside she is still a horrible, vile, nasty creature.

Absolutely agree. Also, BB have done everything in their power to keep her in. They edited the HLs in her favour to tone down her violence. And they gave her at least two warnings that she would be slung out if she didnt change her behaviour. So she did.

[vladicus]

with lisa i just think she was kind of jealous that freddie as all this money and what looks like a brite future where she as had to work hard in her life for what she as got i dont think she hates freddie i just think she is envy's that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth but maybe im wrong

[Nigeria_Bob]

That's exactly it. She's feels inferior as a victim of circumstance and bitter with it.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by Cody™
I detested Lisa up until last week. I now think that Lisa isnt clever enough to be manipulative like people say. I just think she just wants to stay clear of people she dislikes to avoid arguments [cos she is aware of her temper] and just enjoy smoking away lol. I thought this since Bea has entered her camp cos she could have easily used Bea to make things worse for Freddie and even for Marcus but she didnt. Infact she told David to be careful. That made me think that she genuinely isnt looking for trouble.

Im not saying i like her. I dont. But i dont think she is evil or manipulative any more.

What dyu think?

What really makes me laugh - is that certain Marcus fans accuse those that don't like Marcus of not liking him because of his looks! Yet most Marcus fans seem to hate Lisa - there appears to be a definite link between their dislike of her and her lack of stereotypical female good looks! Hypocrites!

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
That's exactly it. She's feels inferior as a victim of circumstance and bitter with it.
I really don't think that's the case. She seems very content and pleased with her simple lifestyle. She's never once indicated she wanted wealth, etc. The forum has way too many trolls dissing her.

[NettoSuperstar!]

If in the first week her outbursts had been defensive and she wasnt in such a position of power then I could have forgiven her, but she was leader of the most powerful group and she attacked people for no good reason so yes shes as bad! Shes kept her head down and tried to pass off her agressive behaviour as some kind of defence mechanism- I dont buy it!

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
If in the first week her outbursts had been defensive and she wasnt in such a position of power then I could have forgiven her, but she was leader of the most powerful group and she attacked people for no good reason so yes shes as bad! Shes kept her head down and tried to pass off her agressive behaviour as some kind of defence mechanism- I dont buy it!
She did jack all to Freddie, they had a couple of arguments, big deal.

Nobody in the house ever liked Freddie, they all liked Lisa, you do the math.

Freddie was the one encouraging Noirin to starve herself and was annoying everybody.

Even the psychologist said his social skills, reading abilities and integration skills need big work.

So don't blame Lisa.

[CallumJoshuaSturt]

Originally posted by aoq2008
i would fuk lisa



:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
If in the first week her outbursts had been defensive and she wasnt in such a position of power then I could have forgiven her, but she was leader of the most powerful group and she attacked people for no good reason so yes shes as bad! Shes kept her head down and tried to pass off her agressive behaviour as some kind of defence mechanism- I dont buy it!
She did jack all to Freddie, they had a couple of arguments, big deal.

Nobody in the house ever liked Freddie, they all liked Lisa, you do the math.

Freddie was the one encouraging Noirin to starve herself and was annoying everybody.

Even the psychologist said his social skills, reading abilities and integration skills need big work.

So don't blame Lisa.

They didnt have arguments, she attacked him verbally for no good reason a number of times...and Angel. And the lack of social skills is no reason to pick on someone

[Nigeria_Bob]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
That's exactly it. She's feels inferior as a victim of circumstance and bitter with it.
I really don't think that's the case. She seems very content and pleased with her simple lifestyle. She's never once indicated she wanted wealth, etc. The forum has way too many trolls dissing her.

She doesn't want it. It would seem too much like hard work… consequentially she doesn't want anyone else to have it, and imposes her simple lifestyle on others, and anyone who doesn't fit those values she discards from the group. In effect, building mini fiefdoms of hate for a group of approval-seeking sheep. Do you think Tom or Kenneth could be controlled in the same manner?

Bottom-line. Small time controlling Bully, cowardly hiding behind subordinates :yuk:

[Sir_Diary_of_Roomus]

Not really that nasty, just crafty. Should have been ejected for fixing noms for about 8 weeks in a row now.

[CaPPa]

Originally posted by ElProximo
I 'would' resent Lisa doing these sorts of things except over and over again the 'target' or 'victim' has just fukking ASKED FOR IT or is a douchbag who deserves it after all.

That sounds just like a bullys mindset. Someone is different and you don't like them so that makes it ok to pick on them?

It's like saying that a geeky kid deserves to get beaten up because he is geeky, or a girl in a short skirt deserves to get attacked because she looked tarty. They are asking for it too right because they offended someone's sensibilities?

If it had been Lisa just having valid arguments with people then it would have been fine, but it wasn't. She was unable to argue, all she did was shout people down without having a clue what they were actually saying most of the time. Just look how many times she told Halfwit to shut up before he'd even had the chance to say anything. It wasn't that he 'deserved it', it was that Lisa had already decided that she didn't want to hear anything he had to say whether it was true or relevant or not. It was simply oppression.

Lisa would take anyone that she could easily lead under her wing and crucify the rest. That is her nature. The fact that she has been quiet for a few weeks (because she lost most of her group and fears eviction) doesn't make her actions for the majority of the show any less excusable.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by CaPPa
Originally posted by ElProximo
I 'would' resent Lisa doing these sorts of things except over and over again the 'target' or 'victim' has just fukking ASKED FOR IT or is a douchbag who deserves it after all.

That sounds just like a bullys mindset. Someone is different and you don't like them so that makes it ok to pick on them?

It's like saying that a geeky kid deserves to get beaten up because he is geeky, or a girl in a short skirt deserves to get attacked because she looked tarty. They are asking for it too right because they offended someone's sensibilities?

If it had been Lisa just having valid arguments with people then it would have been fine, but it wasn't. She was unable to argue, all she did was shout people down without having a clue what they were actually saying most of the time. Just look how many times she told Halfwit to shut up before he'd even had the chance to say anything. It wasn't that he 'deserved it', it was that Lisa had already decided that she didn't want to hear anything he had to say whether it was true or relevant or not. It was simply oppression.

Lisa would take anyone that she could easily lead under her wing and crucify the rest. That is her nature. The fact that she has been quiet for a few weeks (because she lost most of her group and fears eviction) doesn't make her actions for the majority of the show any less excusable.

Agreed Cappa. Its like saying someone with Aspergers for instance deserves to be picked on because they dont understand the social rules the same way as others! Its ridiculous. It might go in the ape kingdom but we are supposed to have evolved!

[MaratSafinForever]

people forget too easily what she was like at the height of her powers.

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

She's not that bad. Some people take this gameshow too serious

[iamonfire]

I don't know about Lisa, I didn't like her from the begining, but with Bea coming in all my dislike got focused on her. Now Bea's gone, I've noticed I kinda like Lisa a little more, only a little though. Saying that, I only watch what BB show, I don't see any of the live feed, and as they've not showed her being nasty or anything recently, Its not suprising my oppinion of her has gone up.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Agreed Cappa. Its like saying someone with Aspergers for instance deserves to be picked on because they dont understand the social rules the same way as others! Its ridiculous. It might go in the ape kingdom but we are supposed to have evolved!
But the person with Asperger's who is out-of-sync socially needn't be a stuck-up douchebag purposefully annoying HMs, playing the victim role, using intelligence to make others look bad in arguments, etc. We've seen Bea do this on a much bigger level, too.

What is it this year with articulate, clever HMs? Revenge of the nerds? :rolleyes:

[Beastie]

lisa should have been evicted weeks ago...

[Beastie]

who has aspergers?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
who has aspergers?

Noone Im just saying you cant use the argument that someone with a lack of social skills deserves to be treated badly

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Agreed Cappa. Its like saying someone with Aspergers for instance deserves to be picked on because they dont understand the social rules the same way as others! Its ridiculous. It might go in the ape kingdom but we are supposed to have evolved!
But the person with Asperger's who is out-of-sync socially needn't be a stuck-up douchebag purposefully annoying HMs, playing the victim role, using intelligence to make others look bad in arguments, etc. We've seen Bea do this on a much bigger level, too.

What is it this year with articulate, clever HMs? Revenge of the nerds? :rolleyes:

Being a stuck up douchebag is judgement made by some but not shared by everyone. He was never purposely annoying untill they singled him out. And He just gave them the rope to hang themselves...nothing wrong with that

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Being a stuck up douchebag is judgement made by some but not shared by everyone. He was never purposely annoying untill they singled him out. And He just gave them the rope to hang themselves...nothing wrong with that
So you admit he actively annoyed them and kept doing so, and used his skills to make them look bad on camera?

He's not so innocent and inept then, like the Asperger's example.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Being a stuck up douchebag is judgement made by some but not shared by everyone. He was never purposely annoying untill they singled him out. And He just gave them the rope to hang themselves...nothing wrong with that
So you admit he annoyed them and kept doing so, didn't try to integrate, and used his skills to make them look bad on camera?

He's not so innocent and inept then, like the Asperger's example.

I admit that he did after he'd already been singled out and picked on. Fairplay to him he didnt just lie down and take it!

[Nigeria_Bob]

It was Lisa, and her group that made the conscious decision to be annoyed.
People can choose to be annoyed or to be happy and jovial… some people
just like being annoyed because it's all they know.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I admit that he did after he'd already been singled out and picked on. Fairplay to him he didnt just lie down and take it!
As opposed to sorting the problem out and trying to come to some agreement? Or chilling out, being less annoying and actually integrating?

Seems like he fell into a situation, and realised he could milk it and turn it into an advantage for him in terms of playing the victim. And he did.

Like I said, revenge of the nerds this year. Halfwit playing Lisa and making her look like she bullied him, and Bea tooling with David/others.

They only prey on the vulnerable, using their adeptness to turn scenarios in their favour. Well in Bea's case, it didn't work, clearly.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
It was Lisa, and her group that made the conscious decision to be annoyed.
People can choose to be annoyed or to be happy and jovial… some people
just like being annoyed because it's all they know.
Halfwit hasn't made 1 friend on BB this year. He goes clubbing alone and has pre-decided strategies to get conversations going (esp in clubs). I think this summarises that he does have issues.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Halfwit did offer to talk thing through with Kris and Lisa to understand their perspective on,
why they hated on him. Each time Freddie offered the hand of friendship. They just told
him to STFU… it was no accident Lisa's minions Kris and Carly were decisively voted out, Lol.

Yay Freddie :cheer:

[Nigeria_Bob]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
It was Lisa, and her group that made the conscious decision to be annoyed.
People can choose to be annoyed or to be happy and jovial… some people
just like being annoyed because it's all they know.
Halfwit hasn't made 1 friend on BB this year. He goes clubbing alone and has pre-decided strategies to get conversations going (esp in clubs). I think this summarises that he does have issues.

Halfwits done better than to make one friend… he has many thousands
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?HalfWit

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
Halfwit did offer to talk thing through with Kris and Lisa to understand their perspective on,
why they hated on him. Each time Freddie offered the hand of friendship. They just told
him to STFU… it was no accident Lisa's minions Kris and Carly were decisively voted out, Lol.

Yay Freddie :cheer:
And yet Freddie got voted out to a mixed reception at best, and public opinion is turning on Lisa, with even Ulkira Johnsson wanting her to win.

So what is it? Maybe with the editing and lack of LF, we'll never truly know.

[Beastie]

nearly 6000 signatures to put freddie back in!!! lmao!! please get him back in to spice the jig up!! like bb4's jon tickle going back in :D

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
Halfwits done better than make one friend… he has many thousands
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?HalfWit
He has not made 1 friend on BB this year. Those signatures are from what people have seen from him on a scripted show that's massively edited.

Unfortunately for him, people that LIVED with him 24/7, none liked him. Sad, but true.

[Beastie]

freddie has made friends with angel!! and marcus.. and siavash!! i know he hasnt made a STRONG friend.. like lisa did with karly! but so what!! big brother is a game and freddie is loved on the outside :D

which would you rather have?? be friends with everyone inside the house but be HATED by most on the outside??

or.. be hated by nearly everyone in the house? but.. have a big fan base outside??

i choose the 2nd option.. lol

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
freddie has made friends with angel!! and marcus.. and siavash!! i know he hasnt made a STRONG friend.. like lisa did with karly! but so what!! big brother is a game and freddie is loved on the outside :D

which would you rather have?? be friends with everyone inside the house but be HATED by most on the outside??

or.. be hated by nearly everyone in the house? but.. have a big fan base outside??

i choose the 2nd option.. lol
You say that, but the 'outside' support is only based on massively edited footage on a TV show, they aren't living with him 24/7, in real life, dealing with him, etc. I do wonder what people would really think if they lived with him. I don't think it's a coincidence that he was so unpopular within the house.

And I don't think Lisa is even unpopular anymore, her odds are shortening by the day. So public opinion is very fickle anyway; based on footage.

I would much rather have the ability to be liked and loved when people meet me face to face. That is the real me, with 1st hand judgements.

[Nigeria_Bob]

The objective of BB is not to make friends, but to win the prize. Though some people (like Lisa) integrate making friends and alliances into their gameplan as means to staying in and not being voted. Also having many friends or no friends, especially in the big brother house is pretty much meaningless as a barometer of how decent a person is. As has been proved over the years the guise of friendship in the house, is only as friendships of convenience.

No wonder Marcus calls everyone arselicks, and said of Freddie he's the only one who hasn't bitched.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
The objective of BB is not to make friends, but to win the prize. Though some people (like Lisa) integrate
making friends and alliances into their gameplan as means to staying in not being voted.
Also having many friends or no friends, especially in the big brother house is pretty much
meaningless as a barometer of how decent a person is.
For me it would be for the experience, and making friends would be a huge part of that. You're unlikely to win, and it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. When you leave, you only leave with memories. Looking back and being disliked by all HMs? Not good.

No wonder Marcus calls everyone arselicks, and said of Freddie he's the only one who hasn't bitched.
Erm he said that about Lisa, not being an a*se lick. He respects Lisa. I don't think he respects nor likes Freddie. He watched Freddie dig his own grave in the final week due to his over-cocky predictions!

[Nigeria_Bob]

Lisa is the arse-lick magnet, while not being an arselick herself she perpetuates it which is far worse :yuk:

[Nigeria_Bob]

Given the choice between being disliked inside the big brother house or in the real-world. It's really a no-brainer… the same housemates have to function in the real-world once their 5-mins of fame is up.

[Beastie]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by bbfanatic
freddie has made friends with angel!! and marcus.. and siavash!! i know he hasnt made a STRONG friend.. like lisa did with karly! but so what!! big brother is a game and freddie is loved on the outside :D

which would you rather have?? be friends with everyone inside the house but be HATED by most on the outside??

or.. be hated by nearly everyone in the house? but.. have a big fan base outside??

i choose the 2nd option.. lol
You say that, but the 'outside' support is only based on massively edited footage on a TV show, they aren't living with him 24/7, in real life, dealing with him, etc. I do wonder what people would really think if they lived with him. I don't think it's a coincidence that he was so unpopular within the house.

And I don't think Lisa is even unpopular anymore, her odds are shortening by the day. So public opinion is very fickle anyway; based on footage.

I would much rather have the ability to be liked and loved when people meet me face to face. That is the real me, with 1st hand judgements.

actually yeah now thinking about it! you are probably right!! infact no.. i change my mind! i would rather be friends with most people in the house! at the end of the day if im evicted and booed.. the hatred will only last for a short period of time! i highly doubt i will be as hated as alex who got her car damaged and who had to go into hiding....

[Nigeria_Bob]

Lisa is unpopular. Bea was *very* unpopular. While Bea was there Lisa evaded the radar of hate…
now she's out in the open, it appears with Charlie.

Lisa :yuk: Charlie :yuk:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I admit that he did after he'd already been singled out and picked on. Fairplay to him he didnt just lie down and take it!
As opposed to sorting the problem out and trying to come to some agreement? Or chilling out, being less annoying and actually integrating?

Seems like he fell into a situation, and realised he could milk it and turn it into an advantage for him in terms of playing the victim. And he did.

Like I said, revenge of the nerds this year. Halfwit playing Lisa and making her look like she bullied him, and Bea tooling with David/others.

They only prey on the vulnerable, using their adeptness to turn scenarios in their favour. Well in Bea's case, it didn't work, clearly.

No mistake she did pick on him, he WAS the victim! (and Angel too) He tried all the civilised talking/appealing to their better nature first but they didnt have one...and why should he suck up to people who have been vile to him anyway! I bloody wouldnt...far better to show them up for the idiots they are, especially on a gameshow...