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google
21-08-2009, 05:30 PM
The amount of times ive seen racist or homophobic remarks on this forum is unreal i have reported them and no the moderators have not removed them :rolleyes:
I'll be putting be putting an official complaint in.

Lauren
21-08-2009, 05:32 PM
Link some examples, please?

(PS. Putting in a complaint to whom?)

MissKittyFantastico
21-08-2009, 05:33 PM
The mods are actually pretty hot on things on here to be fair.

Can't expect them to react immediately to every little comment that you take offence to, they do have lives outside of the forum.

Twilight
21-08-2009, 05:34 PM
Give them time

PaulyJ
21-08-2009, 05:37 PM
What racism are you reffering to i can't say i have seen any at all. They may not of deemed them as racist and homophobic.

headaball
21-08-2009, 05:39 PM
Haven't seen any racist comments on here to be honest, seen quite a few homophobic ones though.

kistar
21-08-2009, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by google
The amount of times ive seen racist or homophobic remarks on this forum is unreal i have reported them and no the moderators have not removed them :rolleyes:
I'll be putting be putting an official complaint in.


I understand entirely , part of the rules say no offensive comments, if someone reports a post and finds it offensive then something should be done,another recent trend is lisa haters calling her scum and worse because she is on benefits, there surely must be an inference to all people on benefits being the same how is that not offensive?
Defo put in an official complaint

BlackOrWhite
21-08-2009, 05:50 PM
Oh yes, we should all write letters to TiBBCom seeing as the moderators have lives and aren't on the forum 24/7 like they should be.

Nigeria_Bob
21-08-2009, 05:53 PM
forum police :laugh3:

J-Rock
21-08-2009, 05:54 PM
There has been some homophobia from some of the ignorants....

But not seen a drop of racism???

kistar
21-08-2009, 05:55 PM
[quote]Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Oh yes, we should all write letters to TiBBCom seeing as the moderators have lives and aren't on the forum 24/7 like they should be. [/quote



I think you missed the point

kistar
21-08-2009, 06:03 PM
the point is if a post is reported then surely the moderators should endeavour to find out why it has been seen to be offensive then make a decision.

ricky2k9
21-08-2009, 06:04 PM
I aint been here long but have noticed this forum is well monitored already.

hennessy
21-08-2009, 06:05 PM
I know that Claymores write xnophobic posts before

PooBay
21-08-2009, 06:10 PM
Is the term 'wooly woofter' still acceptable these days?

Lauren
21-08-2009, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by kistar
the point is if a post is reported then surely the moderators should endeavour to find out why it has been seen to be offensive then make a decision.

They do, I haven't seen an instance where something has been clearly reported and not dealt with. If the OP has examples, then he/she can feel free to link me.

BB_Eye
21-08-2009, 06:19 PM
The mods turn a blind eye to them. As far as they're concerned, if someone isn't using the word *******got, then it's not homophobia.

Sticks
21-08-2009, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by PooBay
Is the term 'wooly woofter' still acceptable these days?

Certainly not Citizen

Consider yourself under arrest - ninety days in the iso cubes, now move it.


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I am the Law

Luanda
21-08-2009, 06:26 PM
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

arista
21-08-2009, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by google
The amount of times ive seen racist or homophobic remarks on this forum is unreal i have reported them and no the moderators have not removed them :rolleyes:
I'll be putting be putting an official complaint in.





You need to show us which thread.


As the Mods are Good on here.

Shasown
21-08-2009, 06:29 PM
Simply because you dont see the moderators post on line in a thread or even remove a thread that you feel may be racist or homophobic doesnt mean they havent looked at it, reviewed it, investigated it and discussed it amongst themselves before carrying out any action.

The staff here are in my opinion generally excellent and police the forums with excellent judgemant and the right balance between allowing freedom of speech and preventing people offended.

People could find offense in lots of posts, generally speaking when a post is looked at in a cold technical way, it isnt half as offensive as it first seems. Not all people can explain their points in a succinct and easy to understand manner that wont have some people seeing offense. Tolerance and fine judgement is always required.

A lot of people simply post how they would talk amongst their peer groups, and what is acceptable in one multicultural and diverse peer group in one area of the uk may not be deemed acceptable in another area.

Horses for courses.

WAYNEEBRUM
21-08-2009, 06:32 PM
The mods are too strict on here already,quit complaining its a forum ffs.

PooBay
21-08-2009, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Sticks
Originally posted by PooBay
Is the term 'wooly woofter' still acceptable these days?

Certainly not Citizen

Consider yourself under arrest - ninety days in the iso cubes, now move it.


Ok, as long as it's VickyJ doing the arresting! :whistle:

Shasown
21-08-2009, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by PooBay
Originally posted by Sticks
Originally posted by PooBay
Is the term 'wooly woofter' still acceptable these days?

Certainly not Citizen

Consider yourself under arrest - ninety days in the iso cubes, now move it.


Ok, as long as it's VickyJ doing the arresting! :whistle:

Ummmm Vickyyyyyyy

I like it when she throws me against the wall and does the full body cavity search.

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
The mods are actually pretty hot on things on here to be fair.

Can't expect them to react immediately to every little comment that you take offence to, they do have lives outside of the forum.

Crap. Harry Rag called one poster DoctoDoctor1k a Homo and other Homophobic crap, yet surprise surprise guess who was banned. Am guessing some of the moderators have friends on here and are allowed to do what they like and abuse whoever they want to.

Staceee
21-08-2009, 07:00 PM
I never take anything on the internet seriously. Most people are trolling anyways

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by kistar
the point is if a post is reported then surely the moderators should endeavour to find out why it has been seen to be offensive then make a decision.

They do, I haven't seen an instance where something has been clearly reported and not dealt with. If the OP has examples, then he/she can feel free to link me.

Rubbish, Harry Rag posted Homophobic remarks on here and continued to abuse another poster and yet the person abused was banned.

scot
21-08-2009, 07:05 PM
This forum seems to be ALMOST entirely free of both xenophobia and homophobia.

Actually this is the kind of forum where the members self-police re xeno/homophobia. It's generally not accepted. I have seen a couple of 'off' posts and those have been dealt quickly by other members as being unacceptable.

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by PaulyJ
What racism are you reffering to i can't say i have seen any at all. They may not of deemed them as racist and homophobic.

Calling someone a Homo, would that not be termed as Homophobic, is it because he is a friend of Vicky

Luanda
21-08-2009, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by scot
This forum seems to be ALMOST entirely free of both xenophobia and homophobia.

Actually this is the kind of forum where the members self-police re xeno/homophobia. It's generally not accepted. I have seen a couple of 'off' posts and those have been dealt quickly by other members as being unacceptable.

You seem to have missed the offensive ones then.

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then. Please do not patronise.

bansheewails
21-08-2009, 07:11 PM
I can usually tell from the title what the thread is going to be like. If i think something is off I won't go in. If i see something I dont like, i will pull the poster up about it and report it. SImple!

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by bansheewails
I can usually tell from the title what the thread is going to be like. If i think something is off I won't go in. If i see something I dont like, i will pull the poster up about it and report it. SImple!

Thats the point though Harry Rag was reported by the poster yet Harry Rag is still posting on here and the person who was abused got banned. Why.

Luanda
21-08-2009, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then.

I didn't say that. That's exactly what I mean about using homophobia in an effort to smear the views of somebody else. You don't know my views on homosexuality anymore than you know the name of the football team I support and indeed even my sexuality.

If I called someone a "homo" and I was gay myself, would that be ok? If I was black and I called someone a n**** would that be ok? Do you know I am not black and homosexual?

It's easy to dismiss someone by claiming they are xenophobic, racist, homophobic without any grounds and you have just illustrated the point perfectly.

bansheewails
21-08-2009, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by bansheewails
I can usually tell from the title what the thread is going to be like. If i think something is off I won't go in. If i see something I dont like, i will pull the poster up about it and report it. SImple!

Thats the point though Harry Rag was reported by the poster yet Harry Rag is still posting on here and the person who was abused got banned. Why.

As to this, I do not know. You will have to ask Mark or James maybe if you are not satisfied with what happened.

kaiserbillrocks
21-08-2009, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by bansheewails
I can usually tell from the title what the thread is going to be like. If i think something is off I won't go in. If i see something I dont like, i will pull the poster up about it and report it. SImple!

Thats the point though Harry Rag was reported by the poster yet Harry Rag is still posting on here and the person who was abused got banned. Why.

I remember that post too, Vicky and Harry were both posting on that one and Harry got abusive calling Homo and ****** or something like that. Strange, is he still posting.

sg160187
21-08-2009, 07:18 PM
I once posted a joke thread at about 3am aksing what the next thread a certain repetitive troll would post next.

I used his name in the thread title but didn't try and insult or use threating language. The mods jumped on it within about 30 seconds because I directed my thread towards another forum member

All in all I'd say they do their job well and quickly :thumbs:

Its a public forum and peoples opinions differ get used to it sunny jim

WOMBAI
21-08-2009, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by bansheewails
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by bansheewails
I can usually tell from the title what the thread is going to be like. If i think something is off I won't go in. If i see something I dont like, i will pull the poster up about it and report it. SImple!

Thats the point though Harry Rag was reported by the poster yet Harry Rag is still posting on here and the person who was abused got banned. Why.

As to this, I do not know. You will have to ask Mark or James maybe if you are not satisfied with what happened.

I came very close to reporting HarryRag today - he was way out of order, which is not unusual! Would I have been banned if I had! Interesting ...

scot
21-08-2009, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by scot
This forum seems to be ALMOST entirely free of both xenophobia and homophobia.

Actually this is the kind of forum where the members self-police re xeno/homophobia. It's generally not accepted. I have seen a couple of 'off' posts and those have been dealt quickly by other members as being unacceptable.

You seem to have missed the offensive ones then.

No, but perhaps i am not as sensitive as you?

There have been some heated exchanges yes. Some harsh things said. Some posts that perhaps you think should be censored.

But from my perspective there is not a rampant xeno/homophobic thing happening on this forum.

I have seen very little xeno/homophobia at all.

Yes, as stated above, people have been, at times, offensive to each other and etc but not, to my knowledge, in xeno/homophic terms.

This is a public forum and as such you are going to encounter many things you dont agree with/aprove of. It's better to adopt a more accepting perspective.

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then.

I didn't say that. That's exactly what I mean about using homophobia in an effort to smear the views of somebody else. You don't know my views on homosexuality anymore than you know the name of the football team I support and indeed even my sexuality.

If I called someone a "homo" and I was gay myself, would that be ok? If I was black and I called someone a n**** would that be ok? Do you know I am not black and homosexual?

It's easy to dismiss someone by claiming they are xenophobic, racist, homophobic without any grounds and you have just illustrated the point perfectly.

You have missed the point. Actually what the hell are you chatting about. Someone called another poster Homphobic names ok. Thats the point I am making and yet they weren't banned, WHY.

newspresenter
21-08-2009, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by google
The amount of times ive seen racist or homophobic remarks on this forum is unreal i have reported them and no the moderators have not removed them :rolleyes:
I'll be putting be putting an official complaint in.
What about the hetrophobic comments? Or aren't you bothered about them :conf2:

scot
21-08-2009, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then.

I didn't say that. That's exactly what I mean about using homophobia in an effort to smear the views of somebody else. You don't know my views on homosexuality anymore than you know the name of the football team I support and indeed even my sexuality.

If I called someone a "homo" and I was gay myself, would that be ok? If I was black and I called someone a n**** would that be ok? Do you know I am not black and homosexual?

It's easy to dismiss someone by claiming they are xenophobic, racist, homophobic without any grounds and you have just illustrated the point perfectly.

You have missed the point.

errr...what point exactly?

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then.

I didn't say that. That's exactly what I mean about using homophobia in an effort to smear the views of somebody else. You don't know my views on homosexuality anymore than you know the name of the football team I support and indeed even my sexuality.

If I called someone a "homo" and I was gay myself, would that be ok? If I was black and I called someone a n**** would that be ok? Do you know I am not black and homosexual?

It's easy to dismiss someone by claiming they are xenophobic, racist, homophobic without any grounds and you have just illustrated the point perfectly.

You have missed the point.

errr...what point exactly?

Should posters who are abusive to others not be banned, any easier for you

Luanda
21-08-2009, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then.

I didn't say that. That's exactly what I mean about using homophobia in an effort to smear the views of somebody else. You don't know my views on homosexuality anymore than you know the name of the football team I support and indeed even my sexuality.

If I called someone a "homo" and I was gay myself, would that be ok? If I was black and I called someone a n**** would that be ok? Do you know I am not black and homosexual?

It's easy to dismiss someone by claiming they are xenophobic, racist, homophobic without any grounds and you have just illustrated the point perfectly.

You have missed the point. Actually what the hell are you chatting about. Someone called another poster Homphobic names ok. Thats the point I am making and yet they weren't banned, WHY.

You are confused my poor dear. Have a lie down and reflect.

google
21-08-2009, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by hennessy
I know that Claymores write xnophobic posts before



Yes Claymores i agree with i have seen some of his/her threads :shocked: i have also noticed they tend to call Siavash not by his name but by his nationality and usually negative comments followed by his nationality hardly ever his name.

Vicky.
21-08-2009, 07:29 PM
Google

In my opinion the post you reported today is not racism. If a report is made, mods look into it as soon as they are online. if they feel it is offensive then it is removed. I have no idea what has happened with harryrag, but I have no doubt that the mod who banned whoever it was had good reason.


And Devoxu

"Calling someone a Homo, would that not be termed as Homophobic, is it because he is a friend of Vicky "

I dont have 'friends' on here. its a forum, if anyone I speak to more than others said anything I considered out of line, their post would also be removed and a warning given if neccesary.

Sorry for the late reply, just got online.

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then.

I didn't say that. That's exactly what I mean about using homophobia in an effort to smear the views of somebody else. You don't know my views on homosexuality anymore than you know the name of the football team I support and indeed even my sexuality.

If I called someone a "homo" and I was gay myself, would that be ok? If I was black and I called someone a n**** would that be ok? Do you know I am not black and homosexual?

It's easy to dismiss someone by claiming they are xenophobic, racist, homophobic without any grounds and you have just illustrated the point perfectly.


How can calling someone homophobic, someone who has blatantly and continually abused another poster with Homophobic taunts be wrong. They were posted as insults to another poster, so yes that is homophobic, if you fail to see that, and if feel censorship of hostile and totally abusive posts is wrong then I'm sorry but your wrong. By your logic censorship is worse than someone being abused and taunted with homophobic remarks.

scot
21-08-2009, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then.

I didn't say that. That's exactly what I mean about using homophobia in an effort to smear the views of somebody else. You don't know my views on homosexuality anymore than you know the name of the football team I support and indeed even my sexuality.

If I called someone a "homo" and I was gay myself, would that be ok? If I was black and I called someone a n**** would that be ok? Do you know I am not black and homosexual?

It's easy to dismiss someone by claiming they are xenophobic, racist, homophobic without any grounds and you have just illustrated the point perfectly.

You have missed the point.

errr...what point exactly?

Should posters who are abusive to others not be banned, any easier for you


hmmmm...okay. Well outside of xeno/homophobic postings how do we decide who/what/when is abusive to others?

Its very context sensitive.

Ahhh, hold on a minute, yes i see, YOU decide what and who is offensive to others?!

Hmmm no thanks; You dont get to decide. you ever read Orwell's novel?

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by VickyJ
Google

In my opinion the post you reported today is not racism. If a report is made, mods look into it as soon as they are online. if they feel it is offensive then it is removed. I have no idea what has happened with harryrag, but I have no doubt that the mod who banned whoever it was had good reason.


And Devoxu

"Calling someone a Homo, would that not be termed as Homophobic, is it because he is a friend of Vicky "

I dont have 'friends' on here. its a forum, if anyone I speak to more than others said anything I considered out of line, their post would also be removed and a warning given if neccesary.

Sorry for the late reply, just got online.

Rubbish Vicky, Harry Rag did abuse DoctorDoctor1k and you know it. You were involved in that post.

Shortly afterwards you became a moderator, unbelievable.

Harry Rag seems to have abused someone else today in another post it seems as posted above.

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then.

I didn't say that. That's exactly what I mean about using homophobia in an effort to smear the views of somebody else. You don't know my views on homosexuality anymore than you know the name of the football team I support and indeed even my sexuality.

If I called someone a "homo" and I was gay myself, would that be ok? If I was black and I called someone a n**** would that be ok? Do you know I am not black and homosexual?

It's easy to dismiss someone by claiming they are xenophobic, racist, homophobic without any grounds and you have just illustrated the point perfectly.

You have missed the point.

errr...what point exactly?

Should posters who are abusive to others not be banned, any easier for you


hmmmm...okay. Well outside of xeno/homophobic postings how do we decide who/what/when is abusive to others?

Its very context sensitive.

Ahhh, hold on a minute, yes i see, YOU decide what and who is offensive to others?!

Hmmm no thanks; You dont get to decide. you ever read Orwell's novel?

Yes I have read it have you, So calling people homo and ****** is ok with you then. Do you get called that then, do you like people calling you names and abusing you.

Luanda
21-08-2009, 07:36 PM
Wow Devoxu take a politically correct chill pill, man.

Vicky.
21-08-2009, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by VickyJ
Google

In my opinion the post you reported today is not racism. If a report is made, mods look into it as soon as they are online. if they feel it is offensive then it is removed. I have no idea what has happened with harryrag, but I have no doubt that the mod who banned whoever it was had good reason.


And Devoxu

"Calling someone a Homo, would that not be termed as Homophobic, is it because he is a friend of Vicky "

I dont have 'friends' on here. its a forum, if anyone I speak to more than others said anything I considered out of line, their post would also be removed and a warning given if neccesary.

Sorry for the late reply, just got online.

Rubbish Vicky, Harry Rag did abuse DoctorDoctor1k and you know it. You were involved in that post.

Shortly afterwards you became a moderator, unbelievable.

Harry Rag seems to have abused someone else today in another post it seems as posted above.

Can I have a link to that thread please?

Plus, if it was before I became a mod, can I ask how you think I could remove the post? Or do anything about it?


And I have not been online today when this user has been 'abusing someone'.

google
21-08-2009, 07:38 PM
I don't have any links at the moment i will forward them in future but my point is even though i have reported some, they are ignored mostly or not always dealt with.

Devoxu
21-08-2009, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Luanda
Wow Devoxu take a politically correct chill pill, man.

Luanda, nah its just that there are some decent posters on here but a few who like to be abusive thats my point, why should they be tolerated.

google
21-08-2009, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by bansheewails
I can usually tell from the title what the thread is going to be like. If i think something is off I won't go in. If i see something I dont like, i will pull the poster up about it and report it. SImple!

Thats the point though Harry Rag was reported by the poster yet Harry Rag is still posting on here and the person who was abused got banned. Why.


I agree Harry rag comes out with offensive homophobic remarks

WOMBAI
21-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by VickyJ
Google

In my opinion the post you reported today is not racism. If a report is made, mods look into it as soon as they are online. if they feel it is offensive then it is removed. I have no idea what has happened with harryrag, but I have no doubt that the mod who banned whoever it was had good reason.


And Devoxu

"Calling someone a Homo, would that not be termed as Homophobic, is it because he is a friend of Vicky "

I dont have 'friends' on here. its a forum, if anyone I speak to more than others said anything I considered out of line, their post would also be removed and a warning given if neccesary.

Sorry for the late reply, just got online.

Rubbish Vicky, Harry Rag did abuse DoctorDoctor1k and you know it. You were involved in that post.

Shortly afterwards you became a moderator, unbelievable.

Harry Rag seems to have abused someone else today in another post it seems as posted above.

Can I have a link to that thread please?

Plus, if it was before I became a mod, can I ask how you think I could remove the post? Or do anything about it?


And I have not been online today when this user has been 'abusing someone'.

He created a thread about me - making some very uncalled for remarks - but it was quickly removed by the mods! He, however, has been posting since!

Luanda
21-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Fancy a bum anyone?

scot
21-08-2009, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by scot
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Originally posted by Devoxu
Originally posted by Luanda
Is the OP being over sensitive?

It is easy to cite racism or homophobia if something is written that you do not necessarily agree with.

Marcus gave short shrift to BB when he was accused of making racist comments to Sree. The same should be the case here, political correctness is often a ploy to silence the opposite view.

No the OP is merely voicing something he feels strongly about

The OP may well feel strongly about the subject but that does not mean he or she is right.

I feel strongly about many things but I am not necessarily right in the eyes of others. It is when those views are censored or dismissed as homophobic, racist or xenophobic in an attempt to stifle them that I object to.


So calling someone a Homo is politically correct by you then.

I didn't say that. That's exactly what I mean about using homophobia in an effort to smear the views of somebody else. You don't know my views on homosexuality anymore than you know the name of the football team I support and indeed even my sexuality.

If I called someone a "homo" and I was gay myself, would that be ok? If I was black and I called someone a n**** would that be ok? Do you know I am not black and homosexual?

It's easy to dismiss someone by claiming they are xenophobic, racist, homophobic without any grounds and you have just illustrated the point perfectly.

You have missed the point.

errr...what point exactly?

Should posters who are abusive to others not be banned, any easier for you


hmmmm...okay. Well outside of xeno/homophobic postings how do we decide who/what/when is abusive to others?

Its very context sensitive.

Ahhh, hold on a minute, yes i see, YOU decide what and who is offensive to others?!

Hmmm no thanks; You dont get to decide. you ever read Orwell's novel?

Yes I have read it have you, So calling people homo and ****** is ok with you then. Do you get called that then, do you like people calling you names and abusing you.

If you read my postd s l o w l y and carefully you will see that i have never condoned any kind of xeno/homophobia at all.

You are now resorting to the very behaviour landua(sp) was getting at in their succint and informed posts to you.

You seem to be getting very upset and close to hysterical re this whole thing.

The mods do what is needed balanced with having a free and open forum.

I repeat that, personaly, i have found this forum to be largely free of xeno/homophobia, and it is certainly not, as you seem to be stating, rampant with such ills.

all the best
Scott

James
21-08-2009, 07:42 PM
:bored: Attention-seeking thread. Moderators do not allow racist and homophobic remarks, so you have got your facts wrong.

DoctorDoctor1k was banned because it was another account of a banned member. And it looks like Devoxu might be too, hence the twisting of the facts. I will look into it more.