Whats Charlie done?

[CallumJoshuaSturt]

Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled:

[BitterFruit]

exist

[dannirivers]

Originally posted by CallumJoshuaSturt
Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled: i just think hes so fake, i cant stand watching him he grates on me! get him out!!!!:devil:

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally posted by BitterFruit
exist

Good answer! :joker:

He'd probably win the prize for Most Irritating Housemate. (Not most hated - just annoying).

[prkp12]

i was going to say be born, but exist is better

[Patricia4]

Ive never liked him.

[BGT-FAN!]

Biggest Gameplayer Award

[Patrick]

Mate...


Everyone DOSENT Dislike him,


Everyone loves him, its litte freaks on here who think Charlies hated...

But like it or not, its just too bad no one has heard of TiBB There for no one cares what you lot think,

Charlie will win because of what the public think!


Dont listen to little idiots on here

[Jordan.]

Originally posted by BitterFruit
exist
:laugh3:

[CaudleHalbard]

We know the bookies don't always get it right, but Charlie is now so far out of the running to win that he might as well go home right now. He's only there for the £100k and he sure ain't gonna get that!

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by CallumJoshuaSturt
Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled:
Nothing, TiBB has just started to copy the nerdy trolls from DS in deciding to hate Charlie. Just the nature of the pro Marcus/Freddie/Siavash mob, who's tactic is to diss other HMs all day long.

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by CallumJoshuaSturt
Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled:
Nothing, TiBB has just started to copy the nerdy trolls from DS in deciding to hate Charlie. Just the nature of the pro Marcus/Freddie/Siavash mob, who's tactic is to diss other HMs all day long.

I'll have you know that I've disliked Charlie from the very beginning, and I don't go on DS so I don't follow their example, but now you say that they hate Charlie also then I might just go on there and join in.

He's just a horrible person, he's got more than 2 faces, a bully and he just winds me up not just Rodrigo, so annoying

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by gavinh2008
I'll have you know that I've disliked Charlie from the very beginning, and I don't go on DS so I don't follow their example, but now you say that they hate Charlie also then I might just go on there and join in.

He's just a horrible person, he's got more than 2 faces, a bully and he just winds me up not just Rodrigo, so annoying
LOL, this year nerdy eccentric fans (a small segment of the voting demographic) decided to swamp forums and biasedly posted propoganda in favour of Freddie/Vash/Marcus, whilst trying to bad-mouth other HMs. First it was Lisa, but eventually they got tired of her, now it's Charlie. Ironically this sudden new found hate, coincided with realising his popularity with the public.

Now suddenly all the nerdy DS trolls, and now TiBB trolls, suddenly have a new scapegoat to criticize and bring down every week.

Ohhh well, that's all good, the ridiculous bias and propoganda is funny to watch. Especially when their fave(s) get evicted anyway.

[terryecosse]

Originally posted by CallumJoshuaSturt
Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled:


Breath.

[terryecosse]

Originally posted by Pmccaff2009
Mate...


Everyone DOSENT Dislike him,


Everyone loves him, its litte freaks on here who think Charlies hated...

But like it or not, its just too bad no one has heard of TiBB There for no one cares what you lot think,

Charlie will win because of what the public think!


Dont listen to little idiots on here


:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:



:pat:

[dbfs]

ENTERED THE BIG BROTHER HOUSE

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by terryecosse
:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

:pat:
Says the person who magically didn't have a bad word to say about Charlie, until magically others started to diss him, copying DS trolls.

It's funny that, how it all magically happens together at once, yet Charlie has been EXACTLY the same throughout the series.

The propogandists and false claimers need a new scapegoat to destroy, it seems. :rolleyes:

Lisa's hate-fest is over, so they move onto Charlie. Where do these nerds come from who only support Fred/Marcus/Vash and make up lies and propoganda about other HMs?

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by dbfs
ENTERED THE BIG BROTHER HOUSE
Yet nobody had a bad word to say until a week ago, yet he's been the same, throughout. Just funny that, isn't it. The trolls need another HM to criticize and try and bring down, how pathetic ...

[pixee]

Originally posted by CallumJoshuaSturt
Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled:

Can you not see why one min bouncing like a little girl and clapping like a seal making out your mr nice guy, then telling people to ******* off the next min might be a little fake?

He'll get a few quick shags out of BB but probably not much else.

[terryecosse]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

Says the person who magically didn't have a bad word to say about Charlie, until magically others started to diss him, copying DS trolls.

It's funny that, how it all magically happens together at once, yet Charlie has been EXACTLY the same throughout the series.

The propogandists and false claimers need a new scapegoat to destroy, it seems. :rolleyes:

Lisa's hate-fest is over, so they move onto Charlie. Where do these nerds come from who only support Fred/Marcus/Vash and make up lies and propoganda about other HMs?


:joker:


Calm down,dear.It's only a gameshow.


:kiss:

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by pixee
Can you not see why one min bouncing like a little girl and clapping like a seal making out your mr nice guy, then telling people to ******* off the next min might be a little fake?

He'll get a few quick shags out of BB but probably not much else.
He's been the same throughout the series. It's just another scapegoat for the nerdy mob on here to have a go at. Stop rationalizing things, people could go on all day about why Marcus sucks.

This new bandwagon is a joke. Just like Freddie the hero and Lisa the evil bully. :rolleyes:

Get your own opinions, please ...

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by dbfs
ENTERED THE BIG BROTHER HOUSE
Yet nobody had a bad word to say until a week ago, yet he's been the same, throughout. Just funny that, isn't it. The trolls need another HM to criticize and try and bring down, how pathetic ...

If you look at my previous posts (if that's possible) you will see that I've hated Charlie since Day 1, just look through the past threads, you will see

Let people have their opinions, people can suddenly hate someone if they do something wrong, which Charlie has been a sympathy-seeking, two-faced nasty for the past few weeks, I just saw his fake act in the beginning, so don't say people are pathetic for hating someone you like

[terryecosse]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

Freddie the hero and Lisa the evil bully.

Get your own opinions, please ...

:hello:


At last,you've made a sensible post.

[oh.really]

Right from the start I said to myself there's something about him that's not nice and he proved me right. He's a nasty, vindictive, aggressive boy pretending to be 'happy chappy' I say boy because he's like a 5 yr old.

Besides, he should be with his mum!

[MeMyselfAndI]

Be, completely fake, be a 2faced backstabber, get over emotinal at stupid things, being to decperate to win, do i need to name more?

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by gavinh2008

Let people have their opinions, people can suddenly hate someone if they do something wrong, which Charlie has been a sympathy-seeking, two-faced nasty for the past few weeks, I just saw his fake act in the beginning, so don't say people are pathetic for hating someone you like
I don't mind people hating HMs as long as it's for legitimate, original reasons. I just find it hilarious that nobody had a bad word to say about him until last week, when all the old bandwagons died out and nerdy trolls needed another HM to criticize and bring down. It used to be Lisa, who did jack all other than argue with Freddy, and they had to make up lies about her too.

Now it's suddenly Charlie, who has been exactly the same throughout the entire series. Suddenly the haters come out of the closet, ALL MAGICALLY at the same time. What a coincidence ...

"Look what he did with Angel's jacket" - Why not say so at the time then, why now, all of a sudden? Pathetic bandwagons and propoganda. :rolleyes:

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by terryecosse
:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

:pat:
Says the person who magically didn't have a bad word to say about Charlie, until magically others started to diss him, copying DS trolls.

It's funny that, how it all magically happens together at once, yet Charlie has been EXACTLY the same throughout the series.

The propogandists and false claimers need a new scapegoat to destroy, it seems. :rolleyes:

Lisa's hate-fest is over, so they move onto Charlie. Where do these nerds come from who only support Fred/Marcus/Vash and make up lies and propoganda about other HMs?

Dude your the biggest troll theres been on this site,and your always dissing this place and DS whateva that is but aint you the muppet who keeps gettin banned for trolling but keeps coming back!
And as for what you call propoganda about other housemates lol wasnt that your tactic to try and keep Sree in the house? remember him? anyways I thou you stopped watching when Sree left? I thou the show ended when Sree was evicted?
I'd roll my eyes at you but I aint a nerd I dont know how to.

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by gavinh2008

Let people have their opinions, people can suddenly hate someone if they do something wrong, which Charlie has been a sympathy-seeking, two-faced nasty for the past few weeks, I just saw his fake act in the beginning, so don't say people are pathetic for hating someone you like
I don't mind people hating HMs as long as it's for legitimate, original reasons. I just find it hilarious that nobody had a bad word to say about him until last week, when all the old bandwagons died out and nerdy trolls needed another HM to criticize and bring down. It used to be Lisa, who did jack all other than argue with Freddy, and they had to make up lies about her too.

Now it's suddenly Charlie, who has been exactly the same throughout the entire series. Suddenly the haters come out of the closet, ALL MAGICALLY at the same time. What a coincidence ...

"Look what he did with Angel's jacket" - Why not say so at the time then, why now, all of a sudden? Pathetic bandwagons and propoganda. :rolleyes:

Dude you must be blinkered if you think people have just suddenly not liked Charlie cause from where im sitting most people have'nt liked him from almost day 1.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by alchemists1
Dude your the biggest troll theres been on this site,and your always dissing this place and DS whateva that is but aint you the muppet who keeps gettin banned for trolling but keeps coming back!
And as for what you call propoganda about other housemates lol wasnt that your tactic to try and keep Sree in the house? remember him? anyways I thou you stopped watching when Sree left? I thou the show ended when Sree was evicted?
I'd roll my eyes at you but I aint a nerd I dont know how to.
So? None of the above credits sudden Charlie hate. Nice switch of topic though. :rolleyes:

Ohhh yes, you reminded me about Sree, he was the scapegoat at the time too. He magically was evil for a particular week as well. :rolleyes:

Incase you didn't notice, this is the same account, since I joined. No banning ...

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by alchemists1
Dude you must be blinkered if you think people have just suddenly not liked Charlie cause from where im sitting most people have'nt liked him from almost day 1.
Ohhh really? He was near bottom of all the hate polls, with hardly any negative threads about him. A sudden surge in the past week. The bandwagoners need another new scapegoat.

Funny, all their lies, BS and propoganda, but still Freddie got evicted anyway. And all the lies about Lisa's unemployment, official warnings, etc.

Too many lies, too many false claims, too much hate. It's just bizarre these days.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by CallumJoshuaSturt
Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled:
Nothing, TiBB has just started to copy the nerdy trolls from DS in deciding to hate Charlie. Just the nature of the pro Marcus/Freddie/Siavash mob, who's tactic is to diss other HMs all day long.

I can actually think for myself thank you very much, and I disliked Charlie pretty much from the first week.

I also don't diss every other HM just because I happen to like Marcus and Siavash either.

Stop generalising.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Stop generalising.
So even as a Siavash fan you accept the general bandwagons, scapegoating and propoganda that goes on then. Each week a new HM suddenly takes the throne of 'Mr/Mrs Terrible', even if they haven't changed since the start of the series ...

And I had to mention Charlie, because I noticed that TiBB suddenly copied DS days after they started their pathetic hate-fest against Charlie.

Just like magic, the haters crop up, citing examples from weeks ago - that they never talked about negatively at the time. :rolleyes:

[pixee]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by gavinh2008

Let people have their opinions, people can suddenly hate someone if they do something wrong, which Charlie has been a sympathy-seeking, two-faced nasty for the past few weeks, I just saw his fake act in the beginning, so don't say people are pathetic for hating someone you like
I don't mind people hating HMs as long as it's for legitimate, original reasons. I just find it hilarious that nobody had a bad word to say about him until last week, when all the old bandwagons died out and nerdy trolls needed another HM to criticize and bring down. It used to be Lisa, who did jack all other than argue with Freddy, and they had to make up lies about her too.

Now it's suddenly Charlie, who has been exactly the same throughout the entire series. Suddenly the haters come out of the closet, ALL MAGICALLY at the same time. What a coincidence ...

"Look what he did with Angel's jacket" - Why not say so at the time then, why now, all of a sudden? Pathetic bandwagons and propoganda. :rolleyes:

So i have to think of a new reason that no one else has thought of for not liking this contestant?

*His dumb face when he doesn't understand something like he has been told he has just been told he has been given a new ferrari but its full of ****.

*The fact he doesn't put a t-shirt on, i know he's probably used to dancing in gay clubs in his pants but come on.

*Bouncing seal clap, i'm pretty sure no one has been specific about this.

*His attacks on Freddie, a person who actually seemed to have great affection for Charlie just dismissed because he took a little while to make his point, too long for charlie to concentrate.

To me i don't hate any of these people it's a tv show but i'm entitled to dislike or like them that is the point of it once it's finished i'll forget about them and if i met them i'd treat them as real people, but for now they are characters on a game show and i'm entitled not to like him.

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by gavinh2008

Let people have their opinions, people can suddenly hate someone if they do something wrong, which Charlie has been a sympathy-seeking, two-faced nasty for the past few weeks, I just saw his fake act in the beginning, so don't say people are pathetic for hating someone you like
I don't mind people hating HMs as long as it's for legitimate, original reasons. I just find it hilarious that nobody had a bad word to say about him until last week, when all the old bandwagons died out and nerdy trolls needed another HM to criticize and bring down. It used to be Lisa, who did jack all other than argue with Freddy, and they had to make up lies about her too.

Now it's suddenly Charlie, who has been exactly the same throughout the entire series. Suddenly the haters come out of the closet, ALL MAGICALLY at the same time. What a coincidence ...

"Look what he did with Angel's jacket" - Why not say so at the time then, why now, all of a sudden? Pathetic bandwagons and propoganda. :rolleyes:

Were you even online when the Angel/Charlie thing happened? Because I remember a lot of people calling him a vicious bully.

People do suddenly hate someone, it's not rare on BB, look at Bea, everyone loved her when she first came in then she showed her true colours and then everyone began to hate her. Charlie is becoming more and more transparent with his fake personality every week, he has had haters on here from the beginning, and then when other people saw through his "happy" and "nice" routine, then he gained more haters.

It doesn't happen like magic, it just happens.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Stop generalising.
So even as a Siavash fan you accept the general bandwagons, scapegoating and propoganda that goes on then. Each week a new HM suddenly takes the throne of 'Mr/Mrs Terrible', even if they haven't changed since the start of the series ...

And I had to mention Charlie, because I noticed that TiBB suddenly copied DS days after they started their pathetic hate-fest against Charlie.

Just like magic, the haters crop up, citing examples from weeks ago - that they never talked about negatively at the time. :rolleyes:

I agree with you that SOME people jump on the bandwagon of hating a certain HM, but not EVERYONE here does and that's my point.

Every year everyone needs someone to hate, it's the nature of the game. Now the more obvious nasty people have gone, some people are looking for the next person they dislike the most. And for a lot of people that happens to be Charlie.

A lot of people still dislike Marcus, a lot still dislike Lisa, so it's not just directed at Charlie is it?

There are a lot of people on this forum who have never particularly liked Charlie, just now that there are so few people left in there, he is getting more air time and so people are getting to see more of him, and obviously not liking what they see. So he's become the new favorite to hate, so to speak.

I'm just pointing out that not everyone on forums is a sheep, most people can actually think for themselves, and your posts that repeatedly accuse EVERYONE of jumping on bandwagons and being sheep is a bit out of order imo. That's all I'm saying.

P.S. And I am one of the ones who since near the start of the show has picked up on Charlie's 'not so nice guy' antics, including the tricking Freddie with the hide and seek game with Kris, throwing water at Angel, and trying to wind up Rodders constantly, lying and **** stirring etc etc.

[Chuckyegg]

i never stopped

[pixee]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Stop generalising.
So even as a Siavash fan you accept the general bandwagons, scapegoating and propoganda that goes on then. Each week a new HM suddenly takes the throne of 'Mr/Mrs Terrible', even if they haven't changed since the start of the series ...

And I had to mention Charlie, because I noticed that TiBB suddenly copied DS days after they started their pathetic hate-fest against Charlie.

Just like magic, the haters crop up, citing examples from weeks ago - that they never talked about negatively at the time. :rolleyes:

I agree with you that SOME people jump on the bandwagon of hating a certain HM, but not EVERYONE here does and that's my point.

Every year everyone needs someone to hate, it's the nature of the game. Now the more obvious nasty people have gone, some people are looking for the next person they dislike the most. And for a lot of people that happens to be Charlie.

A lot of people still dislike Marcus, a lot still dislike Lisa, so it's not just directed at Charlie is it?

There are a lot of people on this forum who have never particularly liked Charlie, just now that there are so few people left in there, he is getting more air time and so people are getting to see more of him, and obviously not liking what they see. So he's become the new favorite to hate, so to speak.

I'm just pointing out that not everyone on forums is a sheep, most people can actually think for themselves, and your posts that repeatedly accuse EVERYONE of jumping on bandwagons and being sheep is a bit out of order imo. That's all I'm saying.

Well said although i think claiming bandwagon jumping in the first place is a bit silly, people change and events change your opinion of them to make an assessment of someone on day 1 and never ever change your mind no matter what they did would be a bit strange wouldnt it?

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by alchemists1
Dude you must be blinkered if you think people have just suddenly not liked Charlie cause from where im sitting most people have'nt liked him from almost day 1.
Ohhh really? He was near bottom of all the hate polls, with hardly any negative threads about him. A sudden surge in the past week. The bandwagoners need another new scapegoat.

Funny, all their lies, BS and propoganda, but still Freddie got evicted anyway. And all the lies about Lisa's unemployment, official warnings, etc.

Too many lies, too many false claims, too much hate. It's just bizarre these days.

What you dont seem to understand is people dont have a 'favourite' who they will like and defend no matter what,people are allowed to change there opinions,if someones supposed 'favourite' does something they dont like they cant change there mind. The difference is you seem to defend your 'favourite' no matter what they do.
For the record ive always hated Charlie he has been sly and FAKE from day 1,and another example I liked Siavash but he done a few things that I didnt agree with or like so I changed my opinion I didnt defend him and try and make excuses for him.
If you are going on about people jumping on bandwagons you do protest to much,and all this about lies and propoganda you have been 1 of the worst culprits making stupid threads numerous times about the exact same thing to try and 'save' which eva housemate your supporting on that particular day.

[Chuckyegg]

He is boring and badly educated

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by gavinh2008
Were you even online when the Angel/Charlie thing happened? Because I remember a lot of people calling him a vicious bully.
Yes I was, and people were very passive about it, they didn't hate him for it. They criticized it a little at the time, but it was brushed under the carpet pretty swiftly. It was swamped by all the anti-Lisa or anti-Sree propoganda. Charlie's turn was Week 11, obviously not Week 3. That's the crux of it.

And most of the other examples given relate to winding up Rodrigo, which has gone on since Week 3/4. Again, it's only useful now because the mob are out to attack another HM and bring them down.

Soon we'll hear about 'Charlie's Official Warning' that BB didn't show, or his 25+ years taking money off of taxpayers ... ROFL. :laugh3:

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by pixee

Well said although i think claiming bandwagon jumping in the first place is a bit silly, people change and events change your opinion of them to make an assessment of someone on day 1 and never ever change your mind no matter what they did would be a bit strange wouldnt it?

Yes I agree with you on that too. For example I really liked Noirin at the start, then she showed her 'true colours' and I went right off her. Same with Bea, she really fooled me the first week she went in there, I ended up disliking her more than any other HM for many years!

[arista]

Originally posted by CallumJoshuaSturt
Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled:


He Stood with Pathetic Bea
staying with her like Glue.


She went
He must go.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by alchemists1
If you are going on about people jumping on bandwagons you do protest to much,and all this about lies and propoganda you have been 1 of the worst culprits making stupid threads numerous times about the exact same thing to try and 'save' which eva housemate your supporting on that particular day.
I never made up lies and false claims about Freddie though, did I? Many of the Freddie mob purposefully lie and make false claims, to draw hatred towards certain HMs. They even just out and out post evil drivel about them. I don't do that. Never have.

Like I said, Charlie has been the same since Day 1. People accuse him of being fake, but he's been the same since Day 1. He was pouring water on Angel's jacket and fooling Freddie in Week 3!

[pixee]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by pixee

Well said although i think claiming bandwagon jumping in the first place is a bit silly, people change and events change your opinion of them to make an assessment of someone on day 1 and never ever change your mind no matter what they did would be a bit strange wouldnt it?

Yes I agree with you on that too. For example I really liked Noirin at the start, then she showed her 'true colours' and I went right off her. Same with Bea, she really fooled me the first week she went in there, I ended up disliking her more than any other HM for many years!

I think a few people did lol me included!

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by pixee
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Stop generalising.
So even as a Siavash fan you accept the general bandwagons, scapegoating and propoganda that goes on then. Each week a new HM suddenly takes the throne of 'Mr/Mrs Terrible', even if they haven't changed since the start of the series ...

And I had to mention Charlie, because I noticed that TiBB suddenly copied DS days after they started their pathetic hate-fest against Charlie.

Just like magic, the haters crop up, citing examples from weeks ago - that they never talked about negatively at the time. :rolleyes:

I agree with you that SOME people jump on the bandwagon of hating a certain HM, but not EVERYONE here does and that's my point.

Every year everyone needs someone to hate, it's the nature of the game. Now the more obvious nasty people have gone, some people are looking for the next person they dislike the most. And for a lot of people that happens to be Charlie.

A lot of people still dislike Marcus, a lot still dislike Lisa, so it's not just directed at Charlie is it?

There are a lot of people on this forum who have never particularly liked Charlie, just now that there are so few people left in there, he is getting more air time and so people are getting to see more of him, and obviously not liking what they see. So he's become the new favorite to hate, so to speak.

I'm just pointing out that not everyone on forums is a sheep, most people can actually think for themselves, and your posts that repeatedly accuse EVERYONE of jumping on bandwagons and being sheep is a bit out of order imo. That's all I'm saying.

Well said although i think claiming bandwagon jumping in the first place is a bit silly, people change and events change your opinion of them to make an assessment of someone on day 1 and never ever change your mind no matter what they did would be a bit strange wouldnt it?

I agree thats the way it goes,people like certain housemates then the more they see of them they dont like them as much.
Bea was the perfect example every1 loved her for the 1st week or so cause we were all basically fooled by her nice dippy hippy routine but the longer she was in there every1 started to see threw that and got to see the real Bea,then mass hate started lol.

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by pixee

Well said although i think claiming bandwagon jumping in the first place is a bit silly, people change and events change your opinion of them to make an assessment of someone on day 1 and never ever change your mind no matter what they did would be a bit strange wouldnt it?

Yes I agree with you on that too. For example I really liked Noirin at the start, then she showed her 'true colours' and I went right off her. Same with Bea, she really fooled me the first week she went in there, I ended up disliking her more than any other HM for many years!

I agree on that aswell cause I also liked Noirin till I saw they real her and she wasnt really a nice person.

[AhmedFan2004]

But alchemists, Charlie hasn't been fake or fooled anyone, like Bea. He's been the same from the start, good or bad. He always did his pranks and fooled around, from the start. He's always been friendly as well, but with a harsher side to him.

It's not like he turned on the bad-ness this past week. He's been the same. Hence why I refer to scapegoating, timed propoganda, etc.

It's his turn for the chop, so to speak.

[pixee]

I think our points would be we are perfectly entitled to dislike the presentation of him on this show and people are only human in forming opinions based on what they see over time so people changing their minds is no wierd thing, if you are the sort of person who forms an opinion then refuses to change it no matter what there is something, well, rather facist about that lol sorry wrong word but you know what i mean it's a strange way to think

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by alchemists1
If you are going on about people jumping on bandwagons you do protest to much,and all this about lies and propoganda you have been 1 of the worst culprits making stupid threads numerous times about the exact same thing to try and 'save' which eva housemate your supporting on that particular day.
I never made up lies and false claims about Freddie though, did I? Many of the Freddie mob purposefully lie and make false claims, to draw hatred towards certain HMs. They even just out and out post evil drivel about them. I don't do that. Never have.

Like I said, Charlie has been the same since Day 1. People accuse him of being fake, but he's been the same since Day 1. He was pouring water on Angel's jacket and fooling Freddie in Week 3!

K fair enough I agree with you on that there are a few people on hear that do purposely post lies about certain housemates and it does seem like there intentions are to discredit that particular housemate as a way to defend there 'favourite'. Which to me doesnt really make sense but I suppose some people are weird lol.But I wouldnt just say thats Freddy fans thou but then again ive not really paid much attention to that.
Ive been accused of being a Freddy fan over and over again even thou I didnt really like him but I aint stupid enough to not see wrong when I see it.
As for the Charlie stuff I just think people had housemates they disliked more than him but now they are outta the way and they have seen more of Charlie nows the time to be more vocal about it.

[jgfrise]

It is so true!! Since fat Bex said on Facebook that she thinks he is fake, everybody has jumped on the band waggon. She only lasted a few weeks in BB9 and was only remembered for flashing her boobs when drunk. Come on stop having a go at Charlie. He has been the same all the way through. Even the bitch Bea said she wanted him to win:dance:

[AhmedFan2004]

Fair enough, I'm just very skeptical because you get a sudden thrust of people hateing and proverbially 'hanging' a HM on here, all at the same time. In Charlie's case he's been the same throughout. I also observe this same phenomenon on DS, where in 1 or 2 days a sudden mass of Charlie hate infested the forum. It just seems all very convenient and bandwagon like.

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
But alchemists, Charlie hasn't been fake or fooled anyone, like Bea. He's been the same from the start, good or bad. He always did his pranks and fooled around, from the start. He's always been friendly as well, but with a harsher side to him.

It's not like he turned on the bad-ness this past week. He's been the same. Hence why I refer to scapegoating, timed propoganda, etc.

It's his turn for the chop, so to speak.

K fair enough but my opinion has been that Charlie is fake and that he is only acting like the nice guy and ive thou that from the begining,probable from when him and Kris stole the drink and Charlie still tried to lie about it,but fair enough Charlie does seem to be the new BB hate figure but all I can say is rightly so.
And I know it does seem like more people have started to not like him this last week but I just think less people are being fooled by the fake cheeky chappie routine he has been doing.
I just find it hard to believe that people hadnt sussed out Charlie before now cause its been obvious for so long.
All the telling every1 how much of a nice guy he is just isnt on,a nice guy doesnt go around telling people so,and he turns on the niceness to certain people and others he doesnt.
Just remember back to the new housemates coming in Charlie didnt make any of them feel welcome infact he was an utter tosser to all the new housemates when they came in,he was nice to them the night they came in but after that he was a ignorant ****.

[pixee]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Fair enough, I'm just very skeptical because you get a sudden thrust of people hateing and proverbially 'hanging' a HM on here, all at the same time. In Charlie's case he's been the same throughout. I also observe this same phenomenon on DS, where in 1 or 2 days a sudden mass of Charlie hate infested the forum. It just seems all very convenient and bandwagon like.

Could it be that people get annoyed by seeing the same thing at the same time given that they are watching the same show?

Also a forum means someone posts a topic and it's discussed so if someone posts I hate charlie and alot of people agree that's just responding to a topic.

I kinda get that you like to think your own way and not appear part of a group so see people who do that as nob ends (probably lol) but on a show like this people are either going to like him or not so it's just your on the liking him band wagon, and if your opinion is that you don't have an opinion, how non conformist of you, why do you care that other people have one?

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by alchemists1
Just remember back to the new housemates coming in Charlie didnt make any of them feel welcome infact he was an utter tosser to all the new housemates when they came in,he was nice to them the night they came in but after that he was a ignorant ****.
All the newbies were treated like garbage. Hira ignored, Tom ostracized for being muscular and good looking, Kenneth pigeon-holed very quickly, Bea was liked only because of being a blonde female, David was stereotyped and played about by Bea, etc.

None of them are particularly nice people, all in all. They all have their negative points. Especially if one chooses to focus on them.

I will say now, whether he reads the situation rightly or wrongly, Charlie is willing to defend people and stick his neck out on the line. I do think his heart is in the right place a lot of the time.

He's shown far more affection in there than many others. Freddie was praised on the forums, but I've never seen him show compassion to anyone, hug them, comfort them, etc.

Whilst Marcus was isolated, he was too busy trying to get into Bea's pants. Loyal. :rolleyes:

[alchemists1]

I think the only conclusive bandwagon thats been jumped on is the Marcus phenominum lol every1 hated him but now he is gettin called a legend.

[pixee]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by alchemists1
Just remember back to the new housemates coming in Charlie didnt make any of them feel welcome infact he was an utter tosser to all the new housemates when they came in,he was nice to them the night they came in but after that he was a ignorant ****.
All the newbies were treated like garbage. Hira ignored, Tom ostracized for being muscular and good looking, Kenneth pigeon-holed very quickly, Bea was liked only because of being a blonde female, David was stereotyped and played about by Bea, etc.

None of them are particularly nice people, all in all. They all have their negative points. Especially if one chooses to focus on them.

I will say now, whether he reads the situation rightly or wrongly, Charlie is willing to defend people and stick his neck out on the line. I do think his heart is in the right place a lot of the time.

He's shown far more affection in there than many others. Freddie was praised on the forums, but I've never seen him show compassion to anyone, hug them, comfort them, etc.

Whilst Marcus was isolated, he was too busy trying to get into Bea's pants. Loyal. :rolleyes:

Who did he defend out of curiosity?

Btw Freddie stepped in to defend Siavash when Noirin threw him to the "wolves".

He hugs and makes a fuss of people as they leave on live television if that is what you mean?

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by pixee
I kinda get that you like to think your own way and not appear part of a group so see people who do that as nob ends (probably lol) but on a show like this people are either going to like him or not so it's just your on the liking him band wagon, and if your opinion is that you don't have an opinion, how non conformist of you, why do you care that other people have one?
Just seems rather contrived and non-coincidental that all of a sudden you get a large number of FMs who converge in their view of Charlie as being bad, nasty etc, yet he's been the same all along.

Appears as 'timed' hate and propoganda, rather than anything in-line with the show. I'm not against opinions per se, but 'group' attacking of HMs for no reason does infuriate me. Look how much stick Lisa got on here, 98% being lies, false claims and abuse!

[questain]

As housemates get evicted you have to change to someone else or not bother voting anymore and everyone is entitled to their own opinion as to who to vote for

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by alchemists1
Just remember back to the new housemates coming in Charlie didnt make any of them feel welcome infact he was an utter tosser to all the new housemates when they came in,he was nice to them the night they came in but after that he was a ignorant ****.
All the newbies were treated like garbage. Hira ignored, Tom ostracized for being muscular and good looking, Kenneth pigeon-holed very quickly, Bea was liked only because of being a blonde female, David was stereotyped and played about by Bea, etc.

None of them are particularly nice people, all in all. They all have their negative points. Especially if one chooses to focus on them.

I will say now, whether he reads the situation rightly or wrongly, Charlie is willing to defend people and stick his neck out on the line. I do think his heart is in the right place a lot of the time.

He's shown far more affection in there than many others. Freddie was praised on the forums, but I've never seen him show compassion to anyone, hug them, comfort them, etc.

Whilst Marcus was isolated, he was too busy trying to get into Bea's pants. Loyal. :rolleyes:

K fair enough Charlie's heart might be in the right place and he is not as nasty as say Bea,as in no concious atall but Charlie has held back and people have'nt seen the real Charlie so we dont really know if he is a good guy or not,but on the evidence of the times Charlie's mask has slipped he doesnt come across as a nice guy.
In general this Big Brother there hasnt been any genuinly nice people in the house,they have all been selfish self centred all about themselves kinda people,with maybe the exceptions being Hira and Tom but we will neva know cause they were'nt really in there long enough to really see what they are all about..

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by pixee
Who did he defend out of curiosity?

Btw Freddie stepped in to defend Siavash when Noirin threw him to the "wolves".

He hugs and makes a fuss of people as they leave on live television if that is what you mean?
Like I said, his heart is in the right place. Whether he reads the situation right or wrong isn't all that important. He thought Bea was being ganged up on and upset, so he defend her and showed compassion. He doesn't see everything that we see either, remember Bea was nice around Charlie.

Charlie's a good guy, he's shown far more compassion than many of the 'popular' HMs on here. Freddie hasn't comforted anyone or showed much compassion at all, he's not socially in-tune at all.

He defended Siavash moreso because he was angry at Noirin. But even when he 'stood up' for Angel, he never used to hug her, show compassion or comfort her. He just used to spar with Lisa. Same with Marcus, he just left him isolated and stuck with Bea.

It's easy to focus on things that show HMs in a good or bad light. Simple. Now it's Charlie's turn to get a roasting. The 'negative' spotlight.

[pixee]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by pixee
I kinda get that you like to think your own way and not appear part of a group so see people who do that as nob ends (probably lol) but on a show like this people are either going to like him or not so it's just your on the liking him band wagon, and if your opinion is that you don't have an opinion, how non conformist of you, why do you care that other people have one?
Just seems rather contrived and non-coincidental that all of a sudden you get a large number of FMs who converge in their view of Charlie as being bad, nasty etc, yet he's been the same all along.

Appears as 'timed' hate and propoganda, rather than anything in-line with the show. I'm not against opinions per se, but 'group' attacking of HMs for no reason does infuriate me. Look how much stick Lisa got on here, 98% being lies, false claims and abuse!

I said 2 weeks ago i think he has a nasty side to him, infact i think he's displayed the most actual aggression in the house.

You don't seem able to grasp that we are all watching the show at the same time so will form an opinion of each HM after that show, given what we already know so it may appear as sudden group hate as you say.

The Lisa thing i even agree with you on alot of it has proven false.

You just seem annoyed that people are expressing a negative opinion about a housemate your seeing a different side to. I assume you dislike at least one housemate? let's assume Bea, were you joining the band wagon?

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by pixee
let's assume Bea, were you joining the band wagon?
Yes I did dislike her. But the point is, Charlie has been the same throughout. But this same self was considered rather positively up until last week. He was even liked for befriending Freddie, helping him integrate into the group, chatting to him, etc. People suddenly ditch all the positives now he's the new scapegoat. They weren't too fussed about his bad points in the past.

[pixee]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by pixee
Who did he defend out of curiosity?

Btw Freddie stepped in to defend Siavash when Noirin threw him to the "wolves".

He hugs and makes a fuss of people as they leave on live television if that is what you mean?
Like I said, his heart is in the right place. Whether he reads the situation right or wrong isn't all that important. He thought Bea was being ganged up on and upset, so he defend her and showed compassion. He doesn't see everything that we see either, remember Bea was nice around Charlie.

Charlie's a good guy, he's shown far more compassion than many of the 'popular' HMs on here. Freddie hasn't comforted anyone or showed much compassion at all, he's not socially in-tune at all.

He defended Siavash moreso because he was angry at Noirin. But even when he 'stood up' for Angel, he never used to hug her, show compassion or comfort her. He just used to spar with Lisa. Same with Marcus, he just left him isolated and stuck with Bea.

It's easy to focus on things that show HMs in a good or bad light. Simple. Now it's Charlie's turn to get a roasting. The 'negative' spotlight.

I agree with you that Freddie showed little physical compassion but if from what i understand from comments his friends have made etc, he is quite socially awkward, but you are right in that respect.

I've not seen him even speak to Marcus to be honest, i'll give Lisa credit for making more of an effort with him lately.

And giving someone credit for reacting in a situation even if they react badly is a bit of a false praise. I think it just comes down to you been on band wagon of liking him lol no bad thing just different wagon.

[pixee]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by pixee
let's assume Bea, were you joining the band wagon?
Yes I did dislike her. But the point is, Charlie has been the same throughout. But this same self was considered rather positively up until last week. He was even liked for befriending Freddie, helping him integrate into the group, chatting to him, etc. People suddenly ditch all the positives now he's the new scapegoat. They weren't too fussed about his bad points in the past.

I see the point your making but i don't think it is a sudden thing he has always had people who have claimed he was faking it, sob story etc there are more now for sure but people have to discuss housemates that are in there, there are less of them so more focus on each housemate = more focused discussion, because theres less of them to discuss

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

Originally posted by Pmccaff2009
Mate...


Everyone DOSENT Dislike him,


Everyone loves him, its litte freaks on here who think Charlies hated...

But like it or not, its just too bad no one has heard of TiBB There for no one cares what you lot think,

Charlie will win because of what the public think!


Dont listen to little idiots on here

Touched a nerve:rolleyes:

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

I just don't like the chap, simple as. Him and David are the only one's I dislike

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by pixee
And giving someone credit for reacting in a situation even if they react badly is a bit of a false praise. I think it just comes down to you been on band wagon of liking him lol no bad thing just different wagon.
He didn't react badly per se, he just misread the situation and hadn't figured Bea out. But he comforted Bea when he thought she was genuinely upset and showed good character.

And until that point, Freddie had actually been pestering Bea because he wanted to fcuk her, following her around everywhere and even waiting in the garden for her. So she wasn't even totally in the wrong at that point.

But Charlie showed his heart and willingness to defend people, which IMO are very good qualities. Neither which Freddie shows.

You can say I'm on a bandwagon if you like, but at least there's no weird timing about it.

[zukhov]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by dbfs
ENTERED THE BIG BROTHER HOUSE
Yet nobody had a bad word to say until a week ago, yet he's been the same, throughout. Just funny that, isn't it. The trolls need another HM to criticize and try and bring down, how pathetic ...

Wrong. look at the dates on Charlies posts.

Supporting Lisa I can understand AhmedFan but Charlie? Come off it. Your head must really be hurting thinking of arguments to support him.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by zukhov

Wrong. look at the dates on Charlies posts.
'Nobody' wasn't meant to be taken literally. But he is all of a sudden, the new hate figure. For basically being exactly the same since the early weeks.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Originally posted by CallumJoshuaSturt
Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled:

talk shiit

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by pixee
let's assume Bea, were you joining the band wagon?
Yes I did dislike her. But the point is, Charlie has been the same throughout. But this same self was considered rather positively up until last week. He was even liked for befriending Freddie, helping him integrate into the group, chatting to him, etc. People suddenly ditch all the positives now he's the new scapegoat. They weren't too fussed about his bad points in the past.

See my answer to that is in my opinion Charlie didnt befriend Freddy at that time he acted like he was his friend for the camera ie for the viewers,I actually thou Charlie was 1 of the people who bullied Freddy,anyways as for the past week and people not liking Charlie I just think now theres less people in there to dislike people are looking more into the actions of housemates and the longer BB has went on its gettin harder to defend Charlie.
There's only so much a housemate can do before it becomes obvious what they are upto.
If you seriously cant see threw Charlie and dont think he puts on the nice but dimb act then id say to you when you watch BB just look for it,just keep your eye on him and watch his facial expressions,and in particular watch how he acts towards Siavash and to a lesser degree Rodrigo.
Ive been saying it for weeks Charlie is faker than Sophies breasts and the only thing that has puzzled me is how its took some people so long to see what Charlie's really like,I'm just glad that at last people can see him for what he is, a FAKE ass bitch lol.

[zukhov]

Hes a new 'hate' figure because the others have been shot down and now he has appeared on the radar. Apart from rows with Rodrigo Charlie has had less airtime than Hira. He got away with it before because there were bigger fish to fry. Also as the end of the show approaches he is becoming increasingly desperate to win and its getting bloody obvious.

[pixee]

Originally posted by alchemists1
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by pixee
let's assume Bea, were you joining the band wagon?
Yes I did dislike her. But the point is, Charlie has been the same throughout. But this same self was considered rather positively up until last week. He was even liked for befriending Freddie, helping him integrate into the group, chatting to him, etc. People suddenly ditch all the positives now he's the new scapegoat. They weren't too fussed about his bad points in the past.

See my answer to that is in my opinion Charlie didnt befriend Freddy at that time he acted like he was his friend for the camera ie for the viewers,I actually thou Charlie was 1 of the people who bullied Freddy,anyways as for the past week and people not liking Charlie I just think now theres less people in there to dislike people are looking more into the actions of housemates and the longer BB has went on its gettin harder to defend Charlie.
There's only so much a housemate can do before it becomes obvious what they are upto.
If you seriously cant see threw Charlie and dont think he puts on the nice but dimb act then id say to you when you watch BB just look for it,just keep your eye on him and watch his facial expressions,and in particular watch how he acts towards Siavash and to a lesser degree Rodrigo.
Ive been saying it for weeks Charlie is faker than Sophies breasts and the only thing that has puzzled me is how its took some people so long to see what Charlie's really like,I'm just glad that at last people can see him for what he is, a FAKE ass bitch lol.

I actually didn't think of that the whole issue with Freddie was that it was constant piss taking behind his back

[pixee]

Originally posted by zukhov
Hes a new 'hate' figure because the others have been shot down and now he has appeared on the radar. Apart from rows with Rodrigo Charlie has had less airtime than Hira. He got away with it before because there were bigger fish to fry. Also as the end of the show approaches he is becoming increasingly desperate to win and its getting bloody obvious.

Exactly what i've tried to point out, you have 12 house mates every housemate get's less exposure or focus, less you have more focus you have. We are hardly going to carry on talking about how badly Bea is behaving when she isn't there.

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by pixee
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by pixee
let's assume Bea, were you joining the band wagon?
Yes I did dislike her. But the point is, Charlie has been the same throughout. But this same self was considered rather positively up until last week. He was even liked for befriending Freddie, helping him integrate into the group, chatting to him, etc. People suddenly ditch all the positives now he's the new scapegoat. They weren't too fussed about his bad points in the past.

I see the point your making but i don't think it is a sudden thing he has always had people who have claimed he was faking it, sob story etc there are more now for sure but people have to discuss housemates that are in there, there are less of them so more focus on each housemate = more focused discussion, because theres less of them to discuss

/\/\
What they said!

[AhmedFan2004]

I do see his bad points, winding Rod up, playing up to the cameras, trying his utmost to keep his nice guy image intact, etc.

But there's many many good points, showing his compassion, loyalty, likeability, etc. He's not popular in (and also outside) the house for nothing.

He's willing to show compassion, defend people, stick his neck on the line, etc. He makes errors and misreads things, but I don't give a fcuk tbh.

I think he has more character than many in there, despite his faults. And most of these faults ARE ALSO faults of other HMs.

Most of them act quite a bit, play it up, try to play nice and dumb, etc. Except the likes of Lisa who are honest, straight up and reliable.

Hence why she's my fave ... no drama queen in her at all. :spin2:

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by zukhov
Hes a new 'hate' figure because the others have been shot down and now he has appeared on the radar. Apart from rows with Rodrigo Charlie has had less airtime than Hira. He got away with it before because there were bigger fish to fry. Also as the end of the show approaches he is becoming increasingly desperate to win and its getting bloody obvious.

Spot on.

[zukhov]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
I do see his bad points, winding Rod up, playing up to the cameras, trying his utmost to keep his nice guy image intact, etc.

But there's many many good points, showing his compassion, loyalty, likeability, etc. He's not popular in (and also outside) the house for nothing.

He's willing to show compassion, defend people, stick his neck on the line, etc. He makes errors and misreads things, but I don't give a fcuk tbh.



Loyalty and compassion? When ? Apart from when he wants to score 'nice guy' points Charlie stays well out of the line of fire. 'Stick his neck on the line'? when has he ever done anything to rock the boat?

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by zukhov]
Loyalty and compassion? When ? Apart from when he wants to score 'nice guy' points Charlie stays well out of the line of fire. 'Stick his neck on the line'? when has he ever done anything to rock the boat?
He's happy to befriend Bea, Lisa, anyone, despite info suggesting that by association, that isn't a wise move. He stuck with Lisa even though outside info suggested it was eviction suicide.

He was compassionate to Bea and throughout the series to other HMs (Sree, Saffia, Freddie, Noirin), when they were upset, or he felt they were getting harsh treatment. It's not his fault that sly Bea had him fooled at the time. But his heart is in the right place.

And he's been willing to tell Freddie how it is straight to his face. Something that Freddie's never had the balls to do. Running into the DR. Or covering up his blatant scheming/bloc votes as 'observations'.

Like he said himself, he's willing to argue and discredit the actions of others when they're in the wrong, even if outside info suggests that it would be very risky and controversial to do so.

He's earnt my respect, despite his flaws. And I do value compassion.

[zukhov]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by zukhov]
Loyalty and compassion? When ? Apart from when he wants to score 'nice guy' points Charlie stays well out of the line of fire. 'Stick his neck on the line'? when has he ever done anything to rock the boat?
He's happy to befriend Bea, Lisa, anyone, despite info suggesting that by association, that isn't a wise move. He stuck with Lisa even though outside info suggested it was eviction suicide.

He was compassionate to Bea and throughout the series to other HMs, when they were upset, or he felt they were getting harsh treatment. It's not his fault that sly Bea had him fooled at the time.

And he's been willing to tell Freddie how it is straight to his face. Something that Freddie's never had the balls to do. Running into the DR. Or covering up his blatant scheming/bloc votes as 'observations'.

Like he said himself, he's willing to argue and discredit the actions of others when they're in the wrong, even if outside info suggests that it would be very risky and controversial to do so.

He's earnt my respect, despite his flaws. And I do value compassion.

Do you seriously belive that? Very little evidence to back you up I'm afraid. Its impossible to make a reasonable argument for Charlie, you are really clutching at straws here.

Charlie was given a good chance by BB on Friday HL show to answer his critics in the diary room. He just proved them 100% correct.

Still, beats the usual Charlie supporters whos best argument is 'hes just being himslef'.

[MrGaryy]

emotional blackmailing, phoney, nasty, aggressive, tedious, arrogant sums it up pretty well I think.

[flyny]

Originally posted by Pmccaff2009
Mate...


Everyone DOSENT Dislike him,


Everyone loves him, its litte freaks on here who think Charlies hated...

But like it or not, its just too bad no one has heard of TiBB There for no one cares what you lot think,

Charlie will win because of what the public think!


Dont listen to little idiots on here

yeah little idiots on here.... well that must include you aswell then . charlies just another annoying queer which thinks he's won already

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by zukhov
Do you seriously belive that? Very little evidence to back you up I'm afraid. Its impossible to make a reasonable argument for Charlie, you are really clutching at straws here.

Charlie was given a good chance by BB on Friday HL show to answer his critics in the diary room. He just proved them 100% correct.

Still, beats the usual Charlie supporters whos best argument is 'hes just being himslef'.
Yes. In many instances he showed compassion. To Sree when on the brink of walking, to Saffia when she was upset about leaving, to Freddie regarding his isolation, to Bea when he felt she was upset and getting harsh treatment from Freddie/Marcus, to Noirin when nobody said goodbye to her, etc.

He's got a good heart IMO. Where's the evidence of warmth and compassion from the forum faves? They are just cold and calculated in comparison.

The 3 musketeers theme is a joke. They don't even like eachother.

Marcus: 'Don't associate me with that Siavash in there, I've got nothing to do with him.' :rolleyes:

[Nigeria_Bob]

Charlie = StoopidOverActingFakerMultiFacedVindictivePettyMin dedSchemingBeatch. Charlie OUT!!!!

[flemin]

I agree with AhmedFan, it's juts mass hysteria started on DS. It happens every year and is always over the top either in favour or against a certain housemate. Charlie hasn't changed, people just need someone to hate and can't accept that everyone has faults, and no housemate is simply either good or evil.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Not evil… just craap.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by flemin
I agree with AhmedFan, it's juts mass hysteria started on DS. It happens every year and is always over the top either in favour or against a certain housemate. Charlie hasn't changed, people just need someone to hate and can't accept that everyone has faults, and no housemate is simply either good or evil.
I'm glad you see it too, the nerdy weird trolls on DS started this pathetic hate fest, and it's amazing how they all congregate and act/think alike.

Now it's Charlie's turn to suddenly be the terrible one, just magically, despite being the same ...

It is just a DS bandwagon, copied over to TiBB. One of many silly bandwagons. Funny how the polls and forum faves do so poorly overall.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Charlie :xyxwave:

[zukhov]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by zukhov
Do you seriously belive that? Very little evidence to back you up I'm afraid. Its impossible to make a reasonable argument for Charlie, you are really clutching at straws here.

Charlie was given a good chance by BB on Friday HL show to answer his critics in the diary room. He just proved them 100% correct.

Still, beats the usual Charlie supporters whos best argument is 'hes just being himslef'.
Yes. In many instances he showed compassion. To Sree when on the brink of walking, to Saffia when she was upset about leaving, to Freddie regarding his isolation, to Bea when he felt she was upset and getting harsh treatment from Freddie/Marcus, to Noirin when nobody said goodbye to her, etc.

He's got a good heart IMO. Where's the evidence of warmth and compassion from the forum faves? They are just cold and calculated in comparison.

The 3 musketeers theme is a joke. They don't even like eachother.

Marcus: 'Don't associate me with that Siavash in there, I've got nothing to do with him.' :rolleyes:


I think you are clutching at straws here. That was Simply Charlie trying to score 'nice guy' points and trying to get some air time on anothers coat tails. Just like he is trying to get air time from Sophie by being her 'comedy' personal trainer. There was a good reason no one said bye to Norin or stuck up for Bea, it would be pretty fake of them to do so. all your exampes are just Charlie being a fake, hence the reason he is disliked.

Whatever the problems with the other HM are, they don't stop Charlie from being two faced. Once again, Charlie totally blew himself out of the water in the diary room on Friday. Its impossible for anyone to support him after that and maintain much credibility. Even if you could find some solid evidence that hes the person he pretends to be.

Charlie himself said that how could he be in the house that long without the mask slipping? Well for me it slipped after about 48hrs in the house. Watching him is literally like somone pulling one face off and putting another on. And it happens at the speed of light.

P.S To Flemin.

Read some of the above posts. This is not instant hate for Charlie, not hate at all really, just dislike. It has started because there are few HM left and Charlie is on the radar now after ducking it for nearly the entire show. He has had very little airtime and there have been bigger fish to fry. Its not some DS forum conspiracy its simple arithmetic, less people = Charlie gets debated.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Charlie = Posterchild of broken Britain.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by zukhov
I think you are clutching at straws here. That was Simply Charlie trying to score 'nice guy' points and trying to get some air time on anothers coat tails. Just like he is trying to get air time from Sophie by being her 'comedy' personal trainer. There was a good reason no one said bye to Norin or stuck up for Bea, it would be pretty fake of them to do so. all your exampes are just Charlie being a fake, hence the reason he is disliked.
I can't see this as instances of being fake, it's not like he was ever b*tching about Sree, Bea, Saffia, or Noirin, then running to defend them. And they were never popular HMs either, so it was not an incentive to stick up for them either. He was prepared to tell Freddie the score and expose his wormlike ways, even though he knew that Freddie was popular and very manipulative in engineering scenarios to play the victim.

It doesn't really add up. Something like b*tching about Freddie all the time, then suddenly sticking up for him upon news of his popularity, would be something that indicates duplicity and acting.

Like I said, he sometimes misreads situations, or is unaware because said person is nice to him and not nice to others, but he has a good heart.

But if you think that's fake, that's your call. But then I could accuse anyone of fakeness.

[BONNEIP]

He has more faces than the town clock, is a tittle tattle, a thief & plays the sympathy card too often. I don't think he's a bad guy, just not BB10 winner.

[Vicky.]

I don't get why people can't just accept that everyone has different opinions...

It appears that more people dislike charlie, because there are less housemates to talk about...less housemates fighting for airtime...and thats it...simple

You could say anyone is jumping on a bandwagon..for example, a lot of people have changed their opinion on Lisa, following how she has been quite nice recently in comparison to the earlier weeks...does that mean they are jumping on a 'we like lisa' bandwagon? No, it just means they have changed their opinion based on what they have seen.

People go on what they see...simple...again...

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
You could say anyone is jumping on a bandwagon..for example, a lot of people have changed their opinion on Lisa, following how she has been quite nice recently in comparison to the earlier weeks...does that mean they are jumping on a 'we like lisa' bandwagon? No, it just means they have changed their opinion based on what they have seen.

People go on what they see...simple...again...
As I type, Charlie is saying on LF how he's a great guy, would make a great dad, do anything for his kids, etc. Hopefully it'll make the HLs, ROFL. :laugh:

[zukhov]

And another thing that annoys me about Charlie.

Everyone slates Lisa for surviving by not being nominated. Its all some big plan blah blah...... She has been herself, even when she knew it would make her look bad. Yet she is still liked and respected in the house and the clear evidence for this is that she has never been legitimaly up for eviction.

Charlie on the other hand survives nominations by faking it up big time and general ass licking. And of course the HM all think he will win so never nom him in case they face him.

Charlie, for the most part, has had an easy ride in the house. Now people are crying because he has popped up on the radar and taking flak? This is end game BB, what do you expect?

[MaratSafinForever]

Originally posted by CallumJoshuaSturt
Whats Charlie done for everyone to start disliking him????? :puzzled:

what has siavash done for anybody to like him?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ
You could say anyone is jumping on a bandwagon..for example, a lot of people have changed their opinion on Lisa, following how she has been quite nice recently in comparison to the earlier weeks...does that mean they are jumping on a 'we like lisa' bandwagon? No, it just means they have changed their opinion based on what they have seen.

People go on what they see...simple...again...
As I type, Charlie is saying on LF how he's a great guy, would make a great dad, do anything for his kids, etc. Hopefully it'll make the HLs, ROFL. :laugh:

No doubt it will...anything where charlie is bigging himself up makes the highlight show. One conversation is hardly going to change peoples views though...maybe a few people. If people change what they think based on this conversation, will you accuse them of jumping on a 'we love charlie' bandwagon? Or is this acceptable?

Seems you only say this when it is people who dislike people who you like to be honest. Or people who like someone who you dislike, either way.

[zukhov]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

As I type, Charlie is saying on LF how he's a great guy, would make a great dad, do anything for his kids, etc. Hopefully it'll make the HLs, ROFL. :laugh:

Hopefully!

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ

No doubt it will...anything where charlie is bigging himself up makes the highlight show. One conversation is hardly going to change peoples views though...maybe a few people. If people change what they think based on this conversation, will you accuse them of jumping on a 'we love charlie' bandwagon? Or is this acceptable?

Seems you only say this when it is people who dislike people who you like to be honest. Or people who like someone who you dislike, either way.
I would agree (partly) with the new 'We Love Charlie' conscensus, but not the way in which it arised or what it was based off. If they talked about his compassion and loyalty to various HMs throughout the series, whilst admitting that he does have weakpoints like all the HMs, I'd totally agree with that.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ

No doubt it will...anything where charlie is bigging himself up makes the highlight show. One conversation is hardly going to change peoples views though...maybe a few people. If people change what they think based on this conversation, will you accuse them of jumping on a 'we love charlie' bandwagon? Or is this acceptable?

Seems you only say this when it is people who dislike people who you like to be honest. Or people who like someone who you dislike, either way.
I would agree (partly) with the new 'We Love Charlie' conscensus, but not the way in which it arised or what it was based off. If they talked about his compassion and loyalty to various HMs throughout the series, whilst admitting that he does have weakpoints like all the HMs, I'd totally agree with that.

Yet everyone who dislikes charlie...for valid reasons...is jumping on a bandwagon?

I dont understand why you get so worked up...I mean, your constantly saying how the forum doesnt make a difference anyway...so obviously, even if there WAS bandwagon stuff going on, why would it matter?

[NolasGirl]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
[quote]
Yes. In many instances he showed compassion. to Freddie regarding his isolation[/b]








When in the name of God did he show compassion to Freddie regarding his isolation?? Were you watching the same show we were? He was at the Dining table sniggering and eyeing Bea.

[AhmedFan2004]

He was the one who helped him integrate, chatted to him and was nice to him, when the rest, INCLUDING Marcus and Siavash, ignored him ...

Freddie, even in an argument with Charlie: "Yes, you have been friendly to me."

Clear as day!

[zukhov]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
He was the one who helped him integrate, chatted to him and was nice to him, when the rest, INCLUDING Marcus and Siavash, ignored him ...

Freddie, even in an argument with Charlie: "Yes, you have been friendly to me."

Clear as day!

Yes, but the point is it was totally fake and done only to score points. Don't think Charlie is a fake? Once again I point you at his diary room preformance.

If he was being genuine, and actually liked Fred rather than trying to be 'Mr nice guy' why did he constantly nominate him? For five weeks in a row when Fred was at his most vulnerable? Pretty clear evidence of fake to me. Anyone with real compassion would have given they guy a break, especially if they were friends.

I still have to see any evidence of Charlie being genuinly 'nice'. There is just too much soild evidence that hes a fake.

[King Gizzard]

The Irrepressable Darkhorse relies on no one.

[jimmymckooel]

he was looking like a winner at one point but somehow he's lost his appeal. He can be a bit horrible to Rodrigo which can be a bit uncalled for. He made an alliance with Bea who wasn't popular.
I'm sure theres other reasons too.

[niko]

i love charlie, **** you all! (lol jokes, but i do love him :] )

[SoFarSoGood282]

I hate people who want to be centre of attention at all times.....who pretends to be stupid, who is fake as Sophie's tits, and thinks they have been over worked and under paid (they have free rent and food)!!! Didn't join any bandwagon just never liked him:bored: Never going to like him:rolleyes:

[hannahfinal]

charlies a babe!
he should blatently win.
i think people have just started hateing him because bea was hated and they were friends

[28thapril]

Originally posted by Bigbrofan085
Be, completely fake, be a 2faced backstabber, get over emotinal at stupid things, being to decperate to win, do i need to name more?

You forgot the usefull way he uses his mum's coma to score votes and the fact he's full of sh*t:nono:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Didnt like him from the day he started trying on Siavash's clothes (im jumping on no bandwagon) He has no respect, hes selfish and a pretender! I'll make a list later...

[Barbie]

Not got much comment all my thoughts have already been said! so just showing support and agreement to GET HIM OUT! :thumbs:

[Rainbowwarrior]

He`s a thief.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Chalrie is about as real as jordans tits are!

[kate_baybiie]

TBH i have never diliked him and i have never seen him do anythingg wronggg but that is just my opinion

[BBfan46]

Originally posted by Pmccaff2009
Mate...


Everyone DOSENT Dislike him,


Everyone loves him, its litte freaks on here who think Charlies hated...

But like it or not, its just too bad no one has heard of TiBB There for no one cares what you lot think,

Charlie will win because of what the public think!


Dont listen to little idiots on here

It's true this forum isn't a fair demographic. Lots of people like Charlie he's got a good chance still.

[peacemaker]

he's been fake i think:whistle: