does Charlie know he's GAY?

[lucifer1968]

in last nights LF Charlie was saying that he wanted to have children.and he also said he wanted them when he's still young:rolleyes: how does he intend to have children if he's GAY:joker:

have i missed something:conf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

[BB22]

Gay men are physically capable of having sexual intercourse with women. They can also provide sperm for insemination.

I don't really see what the problem is. It is becoming much more common.

[calyman]

Yes, your not aware there are many Gay Parents in Britain today.

[flyny]

yeah he loves cock

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by calyman
Yes, your not aware there are many Gay Parents in Britain today. :puzzled: so you think he should get a girl pregnant just so he can have children that end up on jeremy kyle:joker:

[BlackOrWhite]

Wow, this post shows how narrow-minded some people really are.

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Wow, this post shows how narrow-minded some people really are.

so what ( moral ) way is he going to get his two children?. he wants a boy first then a girl. should he pop down the shop and buy them:joker:

[BB22]

I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

[Harry!]

I'm afraid men cannot produce babies on there own. A female is needed in the use of sexual intercourse. Just plain sciene.

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

hes retarded maybe he thinks men can give birth?

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?
that's the moral way:wink:

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?
that's the moral way:wink:

So the problem you have with it is the homosexuality, rather than the methods.

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?
that's the moral way:wink:

So the problem you have with it is the homosexuality, rather than the methods.

it's your ****ed up way of thinking that's destroying society:mad:

[Harry!]

Why cant men look after babies. Would you be the same if it was 2 women?

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?
that's the moral way:wink:

So the problem you have with it is the homosexuality, rather than the methods.

it's your ****** up way of thinking that's destroying society:mad:

Curious. Up until this point we have merely been discussing what it is you think. And up to this point I have made no explicit moral judgement on anything. I fail to see why you have suddenly become annoyed.

We have established through a kind of Socratic discourse that you have no moral objection to heterosexual couples using insemination techniques but that you do have a moral objection to homosexuals employing such techniques. It would seem to follow from that that the source of your objection is the homosexuality rather than the methods used. This is just elementary reasoning at present.

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Wow, this post shows how narrow-minded some people really are.

so what ( moral ) way is he going to get his two children?. he wants a boy first then a girl. should he pop down the shop and buy them:joker:

Adoption, Fostering, Artificial Insemination. You're either about 8 years old, an idiot or a wind-up merchant. I'm going for the latter.

[mizzy25]

adoption, surrogacy to name but two.

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?
that's the moral way:wink:

So the problem you have with it is the homosexuality, rather than the methods.

it's your ****** up way of thinking that's destroying society:mad:

Curious. Up until this point we have merely been discussing what it is you think. And up to this point I have made no explicit moral judgement on anything. I fail to see why you have suddenly become annoyed.

it's your moral judgement that's getting me annoyed.you seem to be saying that it's ok for him to go get a girl pregnant or use insemination techniques just to get a child. i have no problem with his sexuality but if he's GAY then he shouldn't expect to have children. unless he was adopting

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
it's your moral judgement that's getting me annoyed.you seem to be saying that it's ok for him to go get a girl pregnant or use insemination techniques just to get a child. i have no problem with his sexuality but if he's GAY then he shouldn't expect to have children. unless he was adopting

Seriously, are you an idiot? Before, you was confused about HOW he'd get a child and you don't want him to get one through insemination, he must adopt. What a load of b*llocks. Moral implications are there for the few with tunnel vision that refuse to see an open world. Don't know if you've heard of this... free will!

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?
that's the moral way:wink:

So the problem you have with it is the homosexuality, rather than the methods.

it's your ****** up way of thinking that's destroying society:mad:

Curious. Up until this point we have merely been discussing what it is you think. And up to this point I have made no explicit moral judgement on anything. I fail to see why you have suddenly become annoyed.

it's your moral judgement that's getting me annoyed.you seem to be saying that it's ok for him to go get a girl pregnant or use insemination techniques just to get a child. i have no problem with his sexuality but if he's GAY then he shouldn't expect to have children. unless he was adopting

Actually I had made no moral judgement on any matter in any of my posts, as anyone who reads this thread can freely observe. As I pointed out, we were discussing what it is you think on the matter and I was asking a series of questions to clarify your position precisely.

Now, let's move on with that.

What is the difference, do you think, between a heterosexual couple conceiving "just to get a child", and, for example, a couple consisting of two homosexual males enlisting the assistance of a happy and willing female surrogate in order to have a child?

[Nigeria_Bob]

He did say he would like to do charity work in Africa… perhaps he would nab one on the way back.

[olliebeak]

So, let me get this straight (no pun intended, honest).........

Charlie wants to become a father.
He wants this to happen while he's still quite young.
He's gay.


So, what he really wants is to become a 'sperm donor' for a woman who wants to be a 'single mother' and thus become a 'part-time father'?

Or does he envisage a 'relationship of convenience' where he shares a home-life with a woman and child/children while both of them feel free to pursue romantic relationships outside the family home?


I'm really sorry Charlie, even with the very best of intentions, I can see somebody getting hurt eventually - no matter how much you want children.

Children are NOT a life-style accessory like a new mobile phone, latest pair of trainers or the newest piece of technology - they actually DESERVE a life-time commitment (meaning the parents lifetimes not just their own) from at least one, preferrably BOTH, parents.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally posted by olliebeak
So, let me get this straight (no pun intended, honest).........

Charlie wants to become a father.
He wants this to happen while he's still quite young.
He's gay.


So, what he really wants is to become a 'sperm donor' for a woman who wants to be a 'single mother' and thus become a 'part-time father'?

Or does he envisage a 'relationship of convenience' where he shares a home-life with a woman and child/children while both of them feel free to pursue romantic relationships outside the family home?


I'm really sorry Charlie, even with the very best of intentions, I can see somebody getting hurt eventually - no matter how much you want children.

Children are NOT a life-style accessory like a new mobile phone, latest pair of trainers or the newest piece of technology - they actually DESERVE a life-time commitment from at least one, preferrably BOTH, parents.

I fell bad for the kid! :thumbs:

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by olliebeak
So, let me get this straight (no pun intended, honest).........

Charlie wants to become a father.
He wants this to happen while he's still quite young.
He's gay.


So, what he really wants is to become a 'sperm donor' for a woman who wants to be a 'single mother' and thus become a 'part-time father'?

Or does he envisage a 'relationship of convenience' where he shares a home-life with a woman and child/children while both of them feel free to pursue romantic relationships outside the family home?


I'm really sorry Charlie, even with the very best of intentions, I can see somebody getting hurt eventually - no matter how much you want children.

Children are NOT a life-style accessory like a new mobile phone, latest pair of trainers or the newest piece of technology - they actually DESERVE a life-time commitment (meaning the parents lifetimes not just their own) from at least one, preferrably BOTH, parents.

What a load of sh1t, how many women every day do this. But suddenly when a man wants to do it, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm not gay or sticking up for Charlie etc. just for what's right. Some people really do need to open their minds.

[lucifer1968]

What is the difference, do you think, between a heterosexual couple conceiving "just to get a child", and, for example, a couple consisting of two homosexual males enlisting the assistance of a happy and willing female surrogate in order to have a child?

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4299/cakejie.jpg

you can't have your cake and eat it:laugh2:

people have accepted his way off life.he should accept the FACT that two males DONT HAVE children:whistle:

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by lucifer1968


people have accepted his way off life.he should accept the FACT that two males DONT HAVE children:whistle:

They do! There's no difference between a heterosexual couple that can't have children doing something to get a baby than their is a gay couple doing it.

[biggiupdee]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BB22
I have already identified two ways. I still don't see what the problem is.

having sexual intercourse with women
provide sperm for insemination.

i said moral way :mad:

You hit the nail right on the head, the OP clearly has a issue with homosexualitiy or either wasn't thinking 2 clearly. Hetrosexual men and women have been having chidren just because they want children for years without even contniuing with the relationship. No differrence for a gay man if the woman is willing!!! and the Jeremy Kyle isuse is ridiculous, how many hetrosexual single parents always end up that show? too many!!!!!!

You think having sex and using insemination techniques is "immoral"?

for a gay male to use insemination techniques to fetch a child into the worldYES

What about a heterosexual couple using artificial insemination techniques if they cannot conceive normally?
that's the moral way:wink:

So the problem you have with it is the homosexuality, rather than the methods.

it's your ****** up way of thinking that's destroying society:mad:

Curious. Up until this point we have merely been discussing what it is you think. And up to this point I have made no explicit moral judgement on anything. I fail to see why you have suddenly become annoyed.

it's your moral judgement that's getting me annoyed.you seem to be saying that it's ok for him to go get a girl pregnant or use insemination techniques just to get a child. i have no problem with his sexuality but if he's GAY then he shouldn't expect to have children. unless he was adopting

Actually I had made no moral judgement on any matter in any of my posts, as anyone who reads this thread can freely observe. As I pointed out, we were discussing what it is you think on the matter and I was asking a series of questions to clarify your position precisely.

Now, let's move on with that.

What is the difference, do you think, between a heterosexual couple conceiving "just to get a child", and, for example, a couple consisting of two homosexual males enlisting the assistance of a happy and willing female surrogate in order to have a child?

[BB22]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
What is the difference, do you think, between a heterosexual couple conceiving "just to get a child", and, for example, a couple consisting of two homosexual males enlisting the assistance of a happy and willing female surrogate in order to have a child?

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4299/cakejie.jpg

you can't have your cake and eat it:laugh2:

people have accepted his way off life.he should accept the FACT that two males DONT HAVE children:whistle:

Well, we have already established that you have no objection to gay males adopting children. You said that in an earlier post. Yet there seems to be some conflict between that statement and your latest post.

Let's clarify your position:

You have no moral objection to gay males adopting children.

You have no moral objection to heterosexual couples conceiving using insemination techniques.

You do have a moral objection to homosexuals employing a willing female to act as a surrogate and employing insemination techniques to conceive a child.

A further question: let us imagine a heterosexual couple, in which the female is unable to bear and carry a child, would you have any moral objection to said couple employing a willing female to act as a surrogate and employing insemination techniques to conceive a child, which would be carried by the surrogate but raised by the couple?

[lucifer1968]

Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Originally posted by lucifer1968


people have accepted his way off life.he should accept the FACT that two males DONT HAVE children:whistle:

They do! There's no difference between a heterosexual couple that can't have children doing something to get a baby than their is a gay couple doing it.

:tongue: man and woman = child
:tongue: man and man = sore bottom:laugh2:

[biggiupdee]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Originally posted by lucifer1968


people have accepted his way off life.he should accept the FACT that two males DONT HAVE children:whistle:

They do! There's no difference between a heterosexual couple that can't have children doing something to get a baby than their is a gay couple doing it.

:tongue: man and woman = child
:tongue: man and man = sore bottom:laugh2:

women are taking it up the b-m now adays LOL

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Originally posted by lucifer1968


people have accepted his way off life.he should accept the FACT that two males DONT HAVE children:whistle:

They do! There's no difference between a heterosexual couple that can't have children doing something to get a baby than their is a gay couple doing it.

:tongue: man and woman = child
:tongue: man and man = sore bottom:laugh2:

You've completely ignored what I said because you know you're completely wrong. Do you have a problem with surrogacy when a heterosexual couple can't have children?

[lucifer1968]

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::l augh2::laugh2:

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::l augh2::laugh2:

You're a *****ing idiot, I'm done with trying to reason with you. Pathetic.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Originally posted by lucifer1968


people have accepted his way off life.he should accept the FACT that two males DONT HAVE children:whistle:

They do! There's no difference between a heterosexual couple that can't have children doing something to get a baby than their is a gay couple doing it.

:tongue: man and woman = child
:tongue: man and man = sore bottom:laugh2:


+ karma

[olliebeak]

Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Originally posted by olliebeak
So, let me get this straight (no pun intended, honest).........

Charlie wants to become a father.
He wants this to happen while he's still quite young.
He's gay.


So, what he really wants is to become a 'sperm donor' for a woman who wants to be a 'single mother' and thus become a 'part-time father'?

Or does he envisage a 'relationship of convenience' where he shares a home-life with a woman and child/children while both of them feel free to pursue romantic relationships outside the family home?


I'm really sorry Charlie, even with the very best of intentions, I can see somebody getting hurt eventually - no matter how much you want children.

Children are NOT a life-style accessory like a new mobile phone, latest pair of trainers or the newest piece of technology - they actually DESERVE a life-time commitment (meaning the parents lifetimes not just their own) from at least one, preferrably BOTH, parents.

What a load of sh1t, how many women every day do this. But suddenly when a man wants to do it, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm not gay or sticking up for Charlie etc. just for what's right. Some people really do need to open their minds.

I agree with you - too many WOMEN do this as well without thinking about it first.

I will repeat that it's not right - for ANYBODY to deliberately put their own 'desire to have a child' before the long-term need for the child to have life-long love and stability.

[mangasatsuma]

What a lot of talk stemming from a fairly vague statement by Charlie. He can't actually have a child until he gets through puberty....

[BBfan46]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
Originally posted by calyman
Yes, your not aware there are many Gay Parents in Britain today. :puzzled: so you think he should get a girl pregnant just so he can have children that end up on jeremy kyle:joker:

You are insecure. Charlie FTW

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by olliebeak
Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
Originally posted by olliebeak
So, let me get this straight (no pun intended, honest).........

Charlie wants to become a father.
He wants this to happen while he's still quite young.
He's gay.


So, what he really wants is to become a 'sperm donor' for a woman who wants to be a 'single mother' and thus become a 'part-time father'?

Or does he envisage a 'relationship of convenience' where he shares a home-life with a woman and child/children while both of them feel free to pursue romantic relationships outside the family home?


I'm really sorry Charlie, even with the very best of intentions, I can see somebody getting hurt eventually - no matter how much you want children.

Children are NOT a life-style accessory like a new mobile phone, latest pair of trainers or the newest piece of technology - they actually DESERVE a life-time commitment (meaning the parents lifetimes not just their own) from at least one, preferrably BOTH, parents.

What a load of sh1t, how many women every day do this. But suddenly when a man wants to do it, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm not gay or sticking up for Charlie etc. just for what's right. Some people really do need to open their minds.

I agree with you - too many WOMEN do this as well without thinking about it first.

I will repeat that it's not right - for ANYBODY to deliberately put their own 'desire to have a child' before the long-term need for the child to have life-long love and stability.

Little point being rational with the willfully irrational but you make good posts.

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

Not trying to be controversial but I don't agree with gay parents. 2 gay men raising a child isn't right imo

[CaudleHalbard]

does Charlie know he's GAY?


I think the fact that he won Mr Gay Newcastle 2007 and was runner up in Mr Gay UK, may have given Charlie a bit of a clue about his sexuality. :joker:

[lisank]

I don't see a problem with Charlie being gay and having kids. I actually think the problem is he is still a kid himself - he needs to do some growing up before even considering becoming a parent. Imagine his child throwing a tantrum during 'the terrible twos', what is he going to do maybe immatate it and wind it up, then say 'I didn't do anything' like he does with Rodrego, who, lets face it, behaves like a two year old!

[DaniBoi]

Turkey baster.

[kisywisy]

i'm actually suprised there are still people that think this is wrong!! the OP seems to be very immature.

as long as the child has parents/parent to love and raise the child, there is no problem.

if infertile couples can 'cheat' nature by conceiving through IVF etc, then so should gay couples.

[CaraRawr]

:| He can adopt?

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by kisywisy
i'm actually suprised there are still people that think this is wrong!! the OP seems to be very immature.

as long as the child has parents/parent to love and raise the child, there is no problem.

if infertile couples can 'cheat' nature by conceiving through IVF etc, then so should gay couples.

:thumbs: Completely agree. And if women who are 60, 70 some even nearing 80 years old can now have children, why can't people of different sexual interests, which is all it is, a different interest. It doesn't reflect on someones parenting skills in any way.

[Braden]

god charlie is weird

[Tom4784]

The homophobia in this thread is outrageous. There's plenty of options available for gay people to become parents. There's surrogacy and adoption for a start. I say if he wants to become a parent and he thinks he can do a good job of it then why not?

[Prole]

Maybe if Charlie was in a serious, committed relationship and wanted to have kids, it'd be a different arguement. Strikes me he sees having kids like having a new fashion accessory. The one who's rights people should be focusing on is the potential child.

[BB22]

Originally posted by kisywisy
i'm actually suprised there are still people that think this is wrong!! the OP seems to be very immature.

as long as the child has parents/parent to love and raise the child, there is no problem.

if infertile couples can 'cheat' nature by conceiving through IVF etc, then so should gay couples.

I think that sums it up very nicely indeed. :hug:

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally posted by Prole
Maybe if Charlie was in a serious, committed relationship and wanted to have kids, it'd be a different arguement. Strikes me he sees having kids like having a new fashion accessory. The one who's rights people should be focusing on is the potential child.

Spot on!

The child's wellbeing must always come first. Homophobia is a no-no :nono: but just stop and think for a moment.

Child A: What's your dad's name?
Child B: Charlie
Child A: What's your mum's name?
Child B: John.
Child A: Eh??????

:bigsmile:

[Chuckyegg]

Originally posted by lucifer1968
in last nights LF Charlie was saying that he wanted to have children.and he also said he wanted them when he's still young:rolleyes: how does he intend to have children if he's GAY:joker:

have i missed something:conf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

you sad idiot

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by CaudleHalbard
Originally posted by Prole
Maybe if Charlie was in a serious, committed relationship and wanted to have kids, it'd be a different arguement. Strikes me he sees having kids like having a new fashion accessory. The one who's rights people should be focusing on is the potential child.

Spot on!

The child's wellbeing must always come first. Homophobia is a no-no :nono: but just stop and think for a moment.

Child A: What's your dad's name?
Child B: Charlie
Child A: What's your mum's name?
Child B: John.
Child A: Eh??????

:bigsmile:

for a start, he's hardly making plans right now to have children, he's looking into the future, like a lot of people do. how many times have we all had that conversation??

as for the dad's name, mum's name comment, is it not obvious that the child would have 2 dads?? i think a child raised with gay parents will have the advantage of growing up knowing that homosexuality isn't something to be feared or to discriminate against.

[mado]

he can still father a child

[CaudleHalbard]

i think a child raised with gay parents will have the advantage of growing up knowing that homosexuality isn't something to be feared or to discriminate against.


But may themselves suffer ridicule and discrimination from their peers. Children can be cruel and tend not to be as "politically correct" as their elders would like them to be.

I am betting most on here are happy they have a dad & mum - not a dad & dad or a mum & mum?

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by CaudleHalbard

i think a child raised with gay parents will have the advantage of growing up knowing that homosexuality isn't something to be feared or to discriminate against.


But may themselves suffer ridicule and discrimination from their peers. Children can be cruel and tend not to be as "politically correct" as their elders would like them to be.

I am betting most on here are happy they have a dad & mum - not a dad & dad or a mum & mum?

i'll also bet a lot of people on here are from broken homes and themselves have 2 mums/dads (step parents). remember single parent families were also shunned at one time.

children are at risk of being picked on for lots of things. it says more about the way they are raised than anything (the bullies). if they are raised in an intolerant environment, they are more likely to be intolerant of others and their differences.

i know one of the girls in my daughter's class is being raised by her gay father and his longterm partner. she's a popular girl. i know that wouldn't be the 'norm' but she's a very well adjusted little girl. and she goes to a catholic school!!

i've brought my daughter up to know that it's ok for women to love women and men to love men. and she knows that they can have children too because of her friend in class. she's got no problem with it. love is love at the end of the day

[BB22]

It is the kind of attitudes expressed by certain people in this thread which ensure that children in unusual circumstances continue to face ridicule. Such ridicule cannot then, on pain of a form of circularity, be used to justify those very attitudes.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Charlie… Bwahahhahahhhahahahaha… Children looking after Children :nono: