Sophie aint pleased with marcus,

[prkp12]

It's not a good idea for housemates to help themselves to beer that doesn't belong to them, especially when the beer belongs to Marcus. The Irrepressible Dark Horse took a very dim view of Sophie's involvement in the crime, but she was quite hacked off at being singled out

"It was not my idea," Sophie railed to Siavash in the Bedroom.

"Someone else gives the idea, you come and do it and you get the blame," Siavash said, reminding her of the facts

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

"Yeah, you didn't drink it and you didn't open it, but you took it, so you get the blame for it," said Siavash, trying to get Sophie to take responsibility.

"He should say something to us all, 'cause we all drank. He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls," she whined.

"Come on Sophie, it's not like that," replied Siavash, but Marcus was beyond redemption in Sophie's eyes.

"He's a **** and I'll ******* well nominate him on Monday," she decided.

Talk about double standards!

[Patricia4]

Just like Ive said so many times shes a bitch :yuk:
Ive seen Marcus when he's set about men in the house she stole it she is the bad one.

[Rainbowwarrior]

Sophie is a thief, fact. Sophie is a manipulator, fact. Sophies habits are disgusting ,fact. Im a dancing banana up for debate.:banana:

[BB22]

Oh dear. That really is reprehensible from Sophie. To be involved in the incident is bad enough but to react in such a vicious manner when the victim objects is awful.

We shall have to see exactly what Marcus said to her over this but from the information we have at the moment I am going to have to take a very, very dim view of Sophie's behaviour here.

[sg160187]

Well i guess that means Sophie will rally the troops against Marcus so it will be him vs someone friday as expected.

I think Marcus should just start taking what he wants in the house and next time he gets alcohol is he doesnt want it he should just pour it down the sink to spite the evil cow

[Becker]

oh well barring a twist of fate somewhere it really isnt looking good.

Back to Marcus and Siavash up for the vote unless some sort of miracle happens.

I just hope Rodrigo doesn't go with the herd this time. At least that way there might be a chance of some justice.

[ButterflyGirl]

cow! she will nom siavash and marcus and she will do her best to influence the rest to as well :mad:

[oh.really]

Having seen her beg him for drink, her reaction to his reaction over this doesn't surprise me.

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

"He should say something to us all, 'cause we all drank. He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls," she whined.


Sophie just went up 10 points in my book - she 'punked' Marcus HARD with that one and the truth hurts.

Here is the list of people that little coward has gone face-to-face with:
- Little girl Sophie.
- Middle-aged woman Lisa (when most would back him up)
- 120lb university boy Sree (when he knew most backed him)
- *Campy Fem David (only after he was singled out).

Here is the people cowardly little shlt Marcy doesn't mess with anymore:

- *Campy Fem David who he now knows will stand up to him
- 120lb Rodrigo. Marcy has to pretend he is joking.
- Lisa, now that he knows she can 'punk' him when she wants.

Here is the list of people Marcy NEVER messes with but instead acts 'sheepish' or 'friendly mate' or 'innocent poor boy' with:

-Tom
-Isaac
-Siavash
-Charlie
-Cairon
- Freddy

This guy is the worst kind of 'bully'. The 'weakling bully' who can only bully women and men much smaller or younger than himself.

Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.

[Taijitu]

A clear example of the evils brought on by the demon drink!:laugh3:

(why all the long faces today?)

[BB22]

It would appear that Sophie continues to think that "he made me do it" is a valid excuse. I am surprised at her.

[WAYNEEBRUM]

cant stand sophie

[NolasGirl]

Oh for the love of God put them *all* up for eviction please BB. That stupid little pigfaced bitch. ! None of these fools deserve to get to the final- Sophie, Charlie, Lisa... ugh!

[scot]

fatty sophie whines - he never says anything to the men!!...Has she forgotten the dark horse body punched her slimey bopyfriend Kris for pinching his bevy?

Sophie was out of order and like most children became petulant when caught.

This is good though cos it shows her in a bad light and the legend needs every bit of help on his way to the 100k.

[BB22]

"Petulant when caught" - a good description, I feel.

[terryecosse]

Originally posted by scot
fatty sophie whines - he never says anything to the men!!...Has she forgotten the dark horse body punched her slimey bopyfriend Kris for pinching his bevy?

Sophie was out of order and like most children became petulant when caught.

This is good though cos it shows her in a bad light and the legend needs every bit of help on his way to the 100k.


:thumbs:


And let's be honest,apart from ElProximo,who could like an ill-mannered,lying,thieving drunk?

Devoid of any personality and obsessed with superficial things in life,like fake funbags and sleazy mop headed creeps.

[scot]

Originally posted by terryecosse
Originally posted by scot
fatty sophie whines - he never says anything to the men!!...Has she forgotten the dark horse body punched her slimey bopyfriend Kris for pinching his bevy?

Sophie was out of order and like most children became petulant when caught.

This is good though cos it shows her in a bad light and the legend needs every bit of help on his way to the 100k.


:thumbs:


And let's be honest,apart from ElProximo,who could like an ill-mannered,lying,thieving drunk?

Devoid of any personality and obsessed with superficial things in life,like fake funbags and sleazy mop headed creeps.

Too right ecosse, hopefully fatty will up the anti re the whole thing.

If so Marcus will show her in a very poor light. He will do a nice wee job on her. Sophie is potentially one of the Legends biggest obstacles and he must champing at the bit to take her apart and show her in the worst possible light re the public.

It's all coming together for the big man.

[Taijitu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

[ElProximo]

Devoid of any personality and obsessed with superficial things in life,like fake funbags and sleazy mop headed creeps.

You just described fake looks-orientated Marcus who likes to jerk-off at tits,
and,
Is THE sleazy mop-headed creep. Sophie doesn't like him.

Sophie punked Marcy big tonight. REGARDLESS of whatever she is guilty of doesn't change the truth in what she said:
Marcy only get big and tough (actually a fat little fukk who acts like PMS rage) but only with little girls and boys.
Marcy never tries it with anyone he thinks might be able to fight back.. ..which is most people.

*of course the really funny thing is that Sophie probably could beat up that chubby little goof if it came to it lol.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Think this wrecked Sophies chances…

[flyny]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

"He should say something to us all, 'cause we all drank. He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls," she whined.


Sophie just went up 10 points in my book - she 'punked' Marcus HARD with that one and the truth hurts.

Here is the list of people that little coward has gone face-to-face with:
- Little girl Sophie.
- Middle-aged woman Lisa (when most would back him up)
- 120lb university boy Sree (when he knew most backed him)
- *Campy Fem David (only after he was singled out).

Here is the people cowardly little shlt Marcy doesn't mess with anymore:

- *Campy Fem David who he now knows will stand up to him
- 120lb Rodrigo. Marcy has to pretend he is joking.
- Lisa, now that he knows she can 'punk' him when she wants.

Here is the list of people Marcy NEVER messes with but instead acts 'sheepish' or 'friendly mate' or 'innocent poor boy' with:

-Tom
-Isaac
-Siavash
-Charlie
-Cairon
- Freddy

This guy is the worst kind of 'bully'. The 'weakling bully' who can only bully women and men much smaller or younger than himself.

Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.


thats the biggest load of **** i've seen all day
how about sophie takes the blame because she stole the drink. end of story

[flyny]

Originally posted by scot
fatty sophie whines - he never says anything to the men!!...Has she forgotten the dark horse body punched her slimey bopyfriend Kris for pinching his bevy?

Sophie was out of order and like most children became petulant when caught.

This is good though cos it shows her in a bad light and the legend needs every bit of help on his way to the 100k.


spot on there :thumbs:

[ElProximo]

How about Marcy tries to get as tough with any of the men as he does with Sophie?
What a shameful little shlt that Marcy is. He punked himself with this one!
He has nothing to say to it because Sophie told it like it is and don't give a damn what Marcy thinks lol

[Nigeria_Bob]

Marcus Pwns :hello:

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.

Much of what you wrote I think could be seen as subjective but to say Big Brother can do nothing seems odd. The only real force that can do anything from painting a bad picture of a housemate to setting up situations where they ruin their own chances is Channel 4.

I believe you have mentioned you want to go into the house yourself. I may be wrong here but if you feel that BB has no power if not almost complete power over those in there then I honestly dont think you would last long.

What approach would you use? Honesty and hope the public kept you in?:laugh3:

[DoM-h]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

"He should say something to us all, 'cause we all drank. He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls," she whined.


Sophie just went up 10 points in my book - she 'punked' Marcus HARD with that one and the truth hurts.

Here is the list of people that little coward has gone face-to-face with:
- Little girl Sophie.
- Middle-aged woman Lisa (when most would back him up)
- 120lb university boy Sree (when he knew most backed him)
- *Campy Fem David (only after he was singled out).

Here is the people cowardly little shlt Marcy doesn't mess with anymore:

- *Campy Fem David who he now knows will stand up to him
- 120lb Rodrigo. Marcy has to pretend he is joking.
- Lisa, now that he knows she can 'punk' him when she wants.

Here is the list of people Marcy NEVER messes with but instead acts 'sheepish' or 'friendly mate' or 'innocent poor boy' with:

-Tom
-Isaac
-Siavash
-Charlie
-Cairon
- Freddy

This guy is the worst kind of 'bully'. The 'weakling bully' who can only bully women and men much smaller or younger than himself.

Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.

You're a d*ck.

End of

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by Taijitu
Originally posted by ElProximo
Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.

Much of what you wrote I think could be seen as subjective but to say Big Brother can do nothing seems odd. The only real force that can do anything from painting a bad picture of a housemate to setting up situations where they ruin their own chances is Channel 4.

I believe you have mentioned you want to go into the house yourself. I may be wrong here but if you feel that BB has no power if not almost complete power over those in there then I honestly dont think you would last long.

What approach would you use? Honesty and hope the public kept you in?:laugh3:

You are so smart. Wow, I never even knew Big Brother could do anything like tasks, embarrassing photos, show bad scenes..

... DUH! DUH!
VERY OBVIOUSLY I am talking about any physical fight confrontations.
DUH!
D'errrrrrr!

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by Taijitu
Originally posted by ElProximo
Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.

Much of what you wrote I think could be seen as subjective but to say Big Brother can do nothing seems odd. The only real force that can do anything from painting a bad picture of a housemate to setting up situations where they ruin their own chances is Channel 4.

I believe you have mentioned you want to go into the house yourself. I may be wrong here but if you feel that BB has no power if not almost complete power over those in there then I honestly dont think you would last long.

What approach would you use? Honesty and hope the public kept you in?:laugh3:

You are so smart. Wow, I never even knew Big Brother could do anything like tasks, embarrassing photos, show bad scenes..

... DUH! DUH!
VERY OBVIOUSLY I am talking about any physical fight confrontations.
DUH!
D'errrrrrr!

Since you didnt state I assumed you were going from verbal confrontations/manipulation with house mates to verbal confrontations/manipulation with BB as that is how I read your post.

There havnt been any physical fight confrontaions in the house this year so why bring them up when nobody knows how any of the house mates would act in such a situation?

Edit: Also wasnt laughing at you but rather the mental image of a HM being honest throughout.:bigsmile:

[BB22]

There really are quite a number of people on this forum who are not interested in debate, they are barely interested in events or facts. Their sole interest would appear to be to drown threads in incoherent attacks which have little relation to the matter at hand.

Anyway, back on topic, it will be interesting to see precisely what happened on the highlights show and what effect this unpleasant incident will have on the winning chances of the parties involved.

[Kazanne]

Marcus regards Charlie as his only friend in the house,so he wont say anything to him I guess.

[dixiebell1991]

Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls,"


This is so true in the case of Tom!
He gave it all the huff and puff to everyone else about how he was going to punch him etc etc etc etc. But when it came down to it
Tom called him a weirdo and stalker and Marcus (apart from babbling nonsense)
did nothing or said anything of value or substance.

[scot]

Originally posted by kazanne
Marcus regards Charlie as his only friend in the house,so he wont say anything to him I guess.

all part of the legends game plan...Chaz is disposable.

Marcus has it all in hand.

[BB22]

Originally posted by kazanne
Marcus regards Charlie as his only friend in the house,so he wont say anything to him I guess.

Perhaps. Marcus' opinion of Charlie is rather mystifying. He has completely misjudged the situation there, as far as I can see.

[headaball]

She's gonna nominate him? I'm sure having nominated him 8 times already we're all very shocked at that piece of news.

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by dixiebell1991
Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls,"


This is so true in the case of Tom!
He gave it all the huff and puff to everyone else about how he was going to punch him etc etc etc etc. But when it came down to it
Tom called him a weirdo and stalker and Marcus (apart from babbling nonsense)
did nothing or said anything of value or substance.

Exactly. Marcus literally wrapped himself in a duvet and hid in a corner and then would wait for someone (but definitely not Tom) to come walking by.
Then Brave Madame Marcus would seethe and snot about how that Tom better watch it.. because he might get a taste of the Marcus..
..but when back inside and near Tom he would slouch his shoulders and literally hang his head and make that little 'cute smile boy' face and try and be Toms 'friendly little mate'.

Marcy is just about the worst sort of 'bully' there is. Add to that he has a sick little sadistic thrill out of humiliating in beating people up when he fantasizes about it.

I strongly recommend women avoid getting into any sort of romantic relationships with that little shlt.

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by dixiebell1991
Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls,"


This is so true in the case of Tom!
He gave it all the huff and puff to everyone else about how he was going to punch him etc etc etc etc. But when it came down to it
Tom called him a weirdo and stalker and Marcus (apart from babbling nonsense)
did nothing or said anything of value or substance.

Personally I think it speaks well of both of them for not getting violent over issues of such a petty nature.

Maybe I am biased here but I think Marcus doesnt really have any fear of swearing at anyone but perhaps as a man just often gets on better with men then women.

Dont really see the big fuss about the argument though myself. Just sounds like a few silly heated words at the time. If she bears a grudge then maybe she will nominate him but I think chances are he is up no matter so even that is no biggy.:shrug:

Edit: Another thought is that he does come over as a bit childish esp. with women so maybe he picked on her because he fancies her a little. Bit like a kid at school.

[MaratSafinForever]

Sophie is a just a chubby little ****ing slag pisshead.

We all know that she is a pisshead and would do anything for alcohol, stop making excuses Sophie, you two faced cow.

[MaratSafinForever]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by kazanne
Marcus regards Charlie as his only friend in the house,so he wont say anything to him I guess.

Perhaps. Marcus' opinion of Charlie is rather mystifying. He has completely misjudged the situation there, as far as I can see.

Charlie is by far the nicest guy in the house and I could see basically anybody sitting down and talking to him quite easily. All of this game planning **** about him is nonsense, he can be pretty dumb at times but his heart is in the right place.

[mado]

:thumbs:

[Kazanne]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by kazanne
Marcus regards Charlie as his only friend in the house,so he wont say anything to him I guess.

Perhaps. Marcus' opinion of Charlie is rather mystifying. He has completely misjudged the situation there, as far as I can see.

Marcus may be a lot of things according to some fans,but his misjudgement of Charlie may cost him dearly,Charlie is no ones 'friend' Charlie is out for himself and sneaky and sly to boot!

[BB22]

Originally posted by MaratSafinForever
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by kazanne
Marcus regards Charlie as his only friend in the house,so he wont say anything to him I guess.

Perhaps. Marcus' opinion of Charlie is rather mystifying. He has completely misjudged the situation there, as far as I can see.

Charlie is by far the nicest guy in the house and I could see basically anybody sitting down and talking to him quite easily. All of this game planning **** about him is nonsense, he can be pretty dumb at times but his heart is in the right place.

Over the course of the series I have found my opinion of Charlie waxing and waning but I think over the last few weeks I have finally begun to get an accurate picture of him. I don't particularly like what I see.

[MaratSafinForever]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

"He should say something to us all, 'cause we all drank. He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls," she whined.


Sophie just went up 10 points in my book - she 'punked' Marcus HARD with that one and the truth hurts.

Here is the list of people that little coward has gone face-to-face with:
- Little girl Sophie.
- Middle-aged woman Lisa (when most would back him up)
- 120lb university boy Sree (when he knew most backed him)
- *Campy Fem David (only after he was singled out).

Here is the people cowardly little shlt Marcy doesn't mess with anymore:

- *Campy Fem David who he now knows will stand up to him
- 120lb Rodrigo. Marcy has to pretend he is joking.
- Lisa, now that he knows she can 'punk' him when she wants.

Here is the list of people Marcy NEVER messes with but instead acts 'sheepish' or 'friendly mate' or 'innocent poor boy' with:

-Tom
-Isaac
-Siavash
-Charlie
-Cairon
- Freddy

This guy is the worst kind of 'bully'. The 'weakling bully' who can only bully women and men much smaller or younger than himself.

Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.

I like the way you use weight as an indication of strength and verbal ability:laugh3:

Honestly, I don't think you even know how much 120lbs is.
Cairon was the skiniest of the whole house and he didn't say anything to him, why would he be scared of him? It opposes your whole point.

I think you're just jealous cause he has loads of fans and Lisa, well, you can count hers on one hand.

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

She did steal his drink though which is clearly wrong but didn't Charlie say he would take the blame for them?

[JeanP!]

Oh I love sophie so much, she's right in everything she does :laugh:

[prkp12]

im with sophie, as much as i like marcus, charlie said he'd take the blame, and marcus has singled sophie out, sophie only took the drinks, charlie opened them and she drank them a alittle!

[lisank]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

"He should say something to us all, 'cause we all drank. He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls," she whined.


Sophie just went up 10 points in my book - she 'punked' Marcus HARD with that one and the truth hurts.

Here is the list of people that little coward has gone face-to-face with:
- Little girl Sophie.
- Middle-aged woman Lisa (when most would back him up)
- 120lb university boy Sree (when he knew most backed him)
- *Campy Fem David (only after he was singled out).

Here is the people cowardly little shlt Marcy doesn't mess with anymore:

- *Campy Fem David who he now knows will stand up to him
- 120lb Rodrigo. Marcy has to pretend he is joking.
- Lisa, now that he knows she can 'punk' him when she wants.

Here is the list of people Marcy NEVER messes with but instead acts 'sheepish' or 'friendly mate' or 'innocent poor boy' with:

-Tom
-Isaac
-Siavash
-Charlie
-Cairon
- Freddy

This guy is the worst kind of 'bully'. The 'weakling bully' who can only bully women and men much smaller or younger than himself.

Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.

As a high school teacher I see and deal with bullies on a regular basis. Marcus is not a bully by any stretch of the imagination and it annoys me how flippantly people use such a strong word. I like Marcus but that doesn't close my eyes to why others don't. Please reserve words such as bully for those that deserve it.

[Jords]

Well Sophie is in the wrong here, Marcus has every right to be mad with her, she stole his drink right? No excuses for her this time.

[BigDuncsBestMate]

what gets me is that David was getting hassle for eating too much, everytime I watch BB both Sophie and Rodrigo are taking food from the kitchen.

No wonder shes put weight on the fat sl*g !!!!

[Beastie]

Its Sophies fault! she took the drink and drank a bit out of it! I think people are becoming jealous of Marcus because he has survived many evicitions and they fear of him winning!

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by lisank
Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

"He should say something to us all, 'cause we all drank. He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls," she whined.


Sophie just went up 10 points in my book - she 'punked' Marcus HARD with that one and the truth hurts.

Here is the list of people that little coward has gone face-to-face with:
- Little girl Sophie.
- Middle-aged woman Lisa (when most would back him up)
- 120lb university boy Sree (when he knew most backed him)
- *Campy Fem David (only after he was singled out).

Here is the people cowardly little shlt Marcy doesn't mess with anymore:

- *Campy Fem David who he now knows will stand up to him
- 120lb Rodrigo. Marcy has to pretend he is joking.
- Lisa, now that he knows she can 'punk' him when she wants.

Here is the list of people Marcy NEVER messes with but instead acts 'sheepish' or 'friendly mate' or 'innocent poor boy' with:

-Tom
-Isaac
-Siavash
-Charlie
-Cairon
- Freddy

This guy is the worst kind of 'bully'. The 'weakling bully' who can only bully women and men much smaller or younger than himself.

Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.

As a high school teacher I see and deal with bullies on a regular basis. Marcus is not a bully by any stretch of the imagination and it annoys me how flippantly people use such a strong word. I like Marcus but that doesn't close my eyes to why others don't. Please reserve words such as bully for those that deserve it.

You don't know what a bully is and I am concerned about you being in charge of monitoring bad behavior and yet cannot recognise it in Marcus,
but,
You will notice I do describe Marcus as a 'bully'. I put the little rabbit ears on it and describe him as a certain kind of bully. He is the type that is only a 'bully' when he is very very certain its safe to do so and he can get away safely and have no consequences and the person cannot physically do anything to him or otherwise.
btw.. you might have been grading papers at the time but Big Brother, after consulting their experts (legal and psychologist experts on bullying and the like) already gave Marcus a warning.
You know.. for implying he would get Sree outside the house when Sree wasn't protected.
Marcus did that when he couldn't 'verbally beat' Sree.

Marcy is a 'bully' but the weakest and most cowardly sort.

I'm telling you that. Now you know. Start recognising that among your students from now on.
Thx

[CaudleHalbard]

If Marcus walked into any tough pub in one of the inner city areas of a big city, with his long pony tail and ridiculous sideburns he would have the whole place laughing and pointing.

And if he was daring enough (he isn't) to give anyone a bit of lip, he'd be floored unconscious in about 2 seconds flat. (Probably by one of the women! :bigsmile:)

Macho Marcus? "I don't think so, Sonny Jim!" :joker:

[BB22]

There may be an issue here in relation to appropriate attribution of blame by Marcus. We shall have to wait and see the incident before making a judgement about that.

However, whatever the situation regarding the attribution of blame, unless there is something else to this that we do not yet know then Sophie is clearly in the wrong in reacting in such a way. She is the offender in this situation and it is not the place of the offender to respond with indignation to the reaction of the person offended against. That is fairly straightforward.

[terryecosse]

Originally posted by ElProximo

You don't know what a bully is and I am concerned about you being in charge of monitoring bad behavior and yet cannot recognise it in Marcus,


:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

I'm sure your concern has been noted.


Originally posted by ElProximoI'm telling you that. Now you know. Start recognising that among your students from now on.
Thx


Is this an order?

:joker::joker:


Don't tell me,you are the Rt Hon Ed Balls MP.

:cheer2:

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by CaudleHalbard
If Marcus walked into any tough pub in one of the inner city areas of a big city, with his long pony tail and ridiculous sideburns he would have the whole place laughing and pointing.

And if he was daring enough (he isn't) to give anyone a bit of lip, he'd be floored unconscious in about 2 seconds flat. (Probably by one of the women! :bigsmile:)

Macho Marcus? "I don't think so, Sonny Jim!" :joker:

With no exaggeration and not saying this is right or wrong but as a statement of fact:
Yes, if Marcus walked into any sort of 'working mans pub' here in Canada (not even known for fighting) but walked in looking like that he would have people just blatantly laughing and pointing at him too,
and,
If he was overheard telling any of these karate stories or even tried to act 'tough' dressed like that then he would almost certainly get punched out in 2 seconds,
and,
yes, same as in your London scenario it would probably be one of our big strong trucker mamas who did it.
Easily.

The reason Marcus would NOT get beaten up every night is actually because he is such a joke, such a big joke that people would feel sorry for him,
or,
actually feel embarrassed for beating him up because it would 'lower their reputation' for picking a fight with the weakling costume guy.

Seriously and not trying to be funny but I have a dreadful feeling that Marcus is almost certainly going to get beat up on the streets after this program.
I do NOT agree with this but the truth is there are just thousands of guys (too happy for the street rep) or just for laughs who will most deliberately prod and poke him into a corner to make him 'put up or shut up' and really humiliate him into a fist fight.
Then just punch his face in.
Again - I strongly hate that but I am just saying that is far too likely to happen.

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by CaudleHalbard
If Marcus walked into any tough pub in one of the inner city areas of a big city, with his long pony tail and ridiculous sideburns he would have the whole place laughing and pointing.

And if he was daring enough (he isn't) to give anyone a bit of lip, he'd be floored unconscious in about 2 seconds flat. (Probably by one of the women! :bigsmile:)

Macho Marcus? "I don't think so, Sonny Jim!" :joker:

With no exaggeration and not saying this is right or wrong but as a statement of fact:
Yes, if Marcus walked into any sort of 'working mans pub' here in Canada (not even known for fighting) but walked in looking like that he would have people just blatantly laughing and pointing at him too,
and,
If he was overheard telling any of these karate stories or even tried to act 'tough' dressed like that then he would almost certainly get punched out in 2 seconds,
and,
yes, same as in your London scenario it would probably be one of our big strong trucker mamas who did it.
Easily.

Although I think this entire thread has turned into a bit of a silly debate I would hate you to get the wrong impression of life in the UK.

For one reason or another I have spent quite some time in what could be called "tough pubs" and although I have a completely different background to many there I have never had a problem. Although I wouldnt say I am much like Marcus he strikes me as just the kind of guy who would fit in well.

I dont think, however, he comes across as a "tough guy". Although limited my experience of "tough guys" are of people who are psychopaths with no regard for their own safty let alone anyone elses. Much like the guy who threw a kettle of boiling water over a friend of mine who let him stay overnight as he couldnt get to his brother who was in prison at the time.

Luckly most folk over here are pretty much the same as anywhere else though and not anything like that. The concept of "big strong trucker mamas" seems more fitting to me as being from the U.S. or a lesbian porno movie.:bigsmile: Edit: Sorry just realised I misread your post there so maybe this is a thing we can agree on:blush2:)

So anyhow, the kiddies in the house had a barny, Im sure itll all be forgotten about by the finals. Lets all at least try to get on here if we can.:elephant:

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by prkp12
It's not a good idea for housemates to help themselves to beer that doesn't belong to them, especially when the beer belongs to Marcus. The Irrepressible Dark Horse took a very dim view of Sophie's involvement in the crime, but she was quite hacked off at being singled out

"It was not my idea," Sophie railed to Siavash in the Bedroom.

"Someone else gives the idea, you come and do it and you get the blame," Siavash said, reminding her of the facts

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

"Yeah, you didn't drink it and you didn't open it, but you took it, so you get the blame for it," said Siavash, trying to get Sophie to take responsibility.

"He should say something to us all, 'cause we all drank. He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls," she whined.

"Come on Sophie, it's not like that," replied Siavash, but Marcus was beyond redemption in Sophie's eyes.

"He's a **** and I'll ******* well nominate him on Monday," she decided.

Talk about double standards!
Sophie is wrong on so many levels here. I have the Live Feed recording of her sharing the drink with Charlie. She's an idiot who can't take responsibility for stealing Marcus' drink. Silly, unrepentant cow.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by sg160187
Well i guess that means Sophie will rally the troops against Marcus so it will be him vs someone friday as expected.
Probably Siavash, given his siding with Marcus in the issue. David will be safe IMO. :rolleyes:

[mother6]

I just find Marcus a tad hypocrytical after all he did purloine fags when he does not even smoke. Before anyone starts about they were for everyone not just the smokers. Why did he not share them equally with the rest of the non-smokers? Reason being dear ladies and gentlemen he 'aquired' them in order to banter, which he does on a regular basis. The target is usually nubile women (check out the video when he said to Bea "They were for you and now you have spoiled the surprise") said in a wheedling voice.

[BB22]

Originally posted by mother6
I just find Marcus a tad hypocrytical after all he did purloine fags when he does not even smoke. Before anyone starts about they were for everyone not just the smokers. Why did he not share them equally with the rest of the non-smokers? Reason being dear ladies and gentlemen he 'aquired' them in order to banter, which he does on a regular basis. The target is usually nubile women (check out the video when he said to Bea "They were for you and now you have spoiled the surprise") said in a wheedling voice.

I assume you mean "barter" instead of "banter". This issue has been pretty thoroughly debated in several other threads and the barter idea does not stand up to scrutiny. It is fairly clear he was going to give the cigarettes to Bea or perhaps produce them for everyone when the smokers ran out as some kind of surprise which he believed would make himself look good.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by BB22
I assume you mean "barter" instead of "banter". This issue has been pretty thoroughly debated in several other threads and the barter idea does not stand up to scrutiny. It is fairly clear he was going to give the cigarettes to Bea or perhaps produce them for everyone when the smokers ran out as some kind of surprise which he believed would make himself look good.
I'd have to agree. I mean how could he barter with the cigs? They'd be shocked that he'd have cigs to barter with and would take them off of him for the smokers to use ... doesn't make sense at all.

I think he fancied Bea and wanted to impress her with the surprise. TBH!

[mother6]

What gave him the right to decide that Bea was to be given the cigarettes it was not his call. As for his bartering, he does it all the time and sadly its always the females that come running. What self respecting person would wash someone elses clothes for a can of cider. Pimp and Prxxxxxx come to mind. Sophie and Marcus the true face of society today.

[BB22]

Originally posted by mother6
What gave him the right to decide that Bea was to be given the cigarettes it was not his call. As for his bartering, he does it all the time and sadly its always the females that come running. What self respecting person would wash someone elses clothes for a can of cider. Pimp and Prxxxxxx come to mind. Sophie and Marcus the true face of society today.

With regard to his "right" to decide, I am not sure he had such. As far as the bartering is concerned, well I think this issue has been about as conclusively settled as it can possibly be under the circumstances and your thesis is a poor one.

Anyway, there is not much point debating this all over again. I suggest you simply go and read the many threads on the subject from when it actually happened.

[HelenKirby]

How many of you actually read El Proximo's comments now....:whistle: We all know exactly what they're going to say but does anyone actually pay attention to anything he writes now or do you all just scroll past his comments, like I do???!!!

[calyman]

Originally posted by ElProximo
Originally posted by prkp12

"Marcus is a ******* ****. He wouldn't dare say anything to anyone else," spat Sophie. "I hardly ever drank it and I didn't open it."

"He should say something to us all, 'cause we all drank. He never says anything to a bloke at all, 'cause he's scared. He only says stuff to girls," she whined.


Sophie just went up 10 points in my book - she 'punked' Marcus HARD with that one and the truth hurts.

Here is the list of people that little coward has gone face-to-face with:
- Little girl Sophie.
- Middle-aged woman Lisa (when most would back him up)
- 120lb university boy Sree (when he knew most backed him)
- *Campy Fem David (only after he was singled out).

Here is the people cowardly little shlt Marcy doesn't mess with anymore:

- *Campy Fem David who he now knows will stand up to him
- 120lb Rodrigo. Marcy has to pretend he is joking.
- Lisa, now that he knows she can 'punk' him when she wants.

Here is the list of people Marcy NEVER messes with but instead acts 'sheepish' or 'friendly mate' or 'innocent poor boy' with:

-Tom
-Isaac
-Siavash
-Charlie
-Cairon
- Freddy

This guy is the worst kind of 'bully'. The 'weakling bully' who can only bully women and men much smaller or younger than himself.

Oh.. and he is a real big bad muthafukka tough talking badboy when he is talking to Big Brother in the DR where he knows there is no way they can do anything.

Sophie called it bang-on.
She goes up in my book for telling it like it is.

So you admire Sophie. does this also mean you admire her thieving ways?

As to your fiction around the "tough" behaviour of Marcus. You haven't got it yet, have you.

Marcus is not popular because he's violent, in fact the only act of violence I saw is when he solodly punched Kris in the stomach, of course, this action sickened me.

Marcus is popular because he is funny, clever, insightful, a unique individual. Nothing at all like the media *****s that feel inclined to take what is not theirs whenever they like and fail to accept responsibility for their appalling behaviour.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by HelenKirby
How many of you actually read El Proximo's comments now....:whistle: We all know exactly what they're going to say but does anyone actually pay attention to anything he writes now or do you all just scroll past his comments, like I do???!!!
He does have a point, although I don't agree with all his points. Marcus likes to play the alpha male role but whenever a decent male comes in (Tom), he just resorts to b*tching behind his back and then being all submissive and nicey-nicey to his face.

He does use physical power to his advantage, and the things he says to Sree/Sophie etc he perhaps wouldn't dare say to e.g.) Tom.

But I still think Sophie is way in the wrong and totally dumb, irregardless of Marcus.

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by HelenKirby
How many of you actually read El Proximo's comments now....:whistle: We all know exactly what they're going to say but does anyone actually pay attention to anything he writes now or do you all just scroll past his comments, like I do???!!!
He does have a point, although I don't agree with all his points. Marcus likes to play the alpha male role but whenever a decent male comes in (Tom), he just resorts to b*tching behind his back and then being all submissive and nicey-nicey to his face.

He does use physical power to his advantage, and the things he says to Sree/Sophie etc he perhaps wouldn't dare say to e.g.) Tom.

But I still think Sophie is way in the wrong and totally dumb, irregardless of Marcus.

Ive read enough to realise that El Proximo is a she and she does sometimes make some very good points. Do often skip them though as I cant help feeling that sometimes she may be a little bit biased.

[scot]

Originally posted by HelenKirby
How many of you actually read El Proximo's comments now....:whistle: We all know exactly what they're going to say but does anyone actually pay attention to anything he writes now or do you all just scroll past his comments, like I do???!!!

I had to take el poxo's posts apart a few times a wee while back - However it's so easy to do, and lacks the satisfaction required too keep one at it.

So yeah, never read now. Dull, duller, the dullest.

[terryecosse]

Originally posted by HelenKirby
How many of you actually read El Proximo's comments now....:whistle: We all know exactly what they're going to say but does anyone actually pay attention to anything he writes now or do you all just scroll past his comments, like I do???!!!


Who's El Proximo?

:shrug:

[calyman]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by mother6
I just find Marcus a tad hypocrytical after all he did purloine fags when he does not even smoke. Before anyone starts about they were for everyone not just the smokers. Why did he not share them equally with the rest of the non-smokers? Reason being dear ladies and gentlemen he 'aquired' them in order to banter, which he does on a regular basis. The target is usually nubile women (check out the video when he said to Bea "They were for you and now you have spoiled the surprise") said in a wheedling voice.

I assume you mean "barter" instead of "banter". This issue has been pretty thoroughly debated in several other threads and the barter idea does not stand up to scrutiny. It is fairly clear he was going to give the cigarettes to Bea or perhaps produce them for everyone when the smokers ran out as some kind of surprise which he believed would make himself look good.
You are right in saying that the cigarettes have been debated quite thoroughly in previous posts. However, you are still wrong in implying the bartering of the cigarettes does not stand up to scrutiny> Perhaps you have still not been convinced of this but that hardly means it's now conclusive.

I agree that it's pointless to rehash previous discussions but if you do so, at least be even handed about it.

[BB22]

Originally posted by calyman
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by mother6
I just find Marcus a tad hypocrytical after all he did purloine fags when he does not even smoke. Before anyone starts about they were for everyone not just the smokers. Why did he not share them equally with the rest of the non-smokers? Reason being dear ladies and gentlemen he 'aquired' them in order to banter, which he does on a regular basis. The target is usually nubile women (check out the video when he said to Bea "They were for you and now you have spoiled the surprise") said in a wheedling voice.

I assume you mean "barter" instead of "banter". This issue has been pretty thoroughly debated in several other threads and the barter idea does not stand up to scrutiny. It is fairly clear he was going to give the cigarettes to Bea or perhaps produce them for everyone when the smokers ran out as some kind of surprise which he believed would make himself look good.
You are right in saying that the cigarettes have been debated quite thoroughly in previous posts. However, you are still wrong in implying the bartering of the cigarettes does not stand up to scrutiny> Perhaps you have still not been convinced of this but that hardly means it's now conclusive.

I agree that it's pointless to rehash previous discussions but if you do so, at least be even handed about it.

I have not failed to be even-handed. I have stated my opinion and people may challenge it if they wish to. I may be wrong or I may be right, but even-handedness does not really come into it.

No issue on an internet forum (or indeed anywhere else) is ever settled to everyone's satisfaction but on occasion some issues are debated at considerable length and points are made with enough clarity and lucidity that something like a reasonable conclusion can be drawn. The idea that Marcus was planning to barter does not in my opinion stand up to scrutiny, for fairly straightforward reasons which have even been discussed in another thread this very day. The most obvious is that Marcus had already told Bea prior to the night of the cigarette argument that he was going to give her a gift.

That said, I do not intend to discuss it yet again here. If someone wants to go read and resurrect one of the threads from the time of the incident then fine but as far as I am concerned all the relevant points have already been made.

[prkp12]

im so confused & lost :joker::tongue:

[kistar]

Originally posted by prkp12
im so confused & lost :joker::tongue:

Yeah what was the thread about again?

[JAJ1942]

Watched LF last night and she told Charlie where the cans were and when he wouldn't go and get them she went herself. True Charlie actually opened the cans but she took her share and Rodrigo had some too. The truth is she is the one that actually took the drink so she shouldn't complain when she is found out.