I find it interesting people in here find rebellion entertaining

[kellybsblover]

I enjoyed Rex last season. He was smart enough to be entertaining without breaking BB rules. Explain to me how breaking rules is entertaining?

[pixee]

First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?

[kellybsblover]

You know the rules before going in. This should be no surprise. If I dont agree with the rules I would not go in the house.

[pixee]

Best BB moment was someone breaking the rules in the first series "nasty nick" it's an entertainment show if BB were bothered they could have kicked him out. Do people get so angry because they wouldn't dare break the rules?

[kellybsblover]

I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

[kellybsblover]

I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

[pixee]

Frightening

[GirlsAloud]

If it's possible to break the rules to get what they want (big brother gave them an alternative) then they will.. I would. xxxxx

[kellybsblover]

I guess it's a matter of principles and morals... I'm not expecting everyone to have it and no Rodrigo would not break rules to get what he wants.

[guigy]

Breaks the monotomy of watching robots

[pixee]

Originally posted by kellybsblover
I guess it's a matter of principles and morals... I'm not expecting everyone to have it and no Rodrigo would not break rules to get what he wants.

I think your falling into the David trap of confusing like i don't know say general social anarchy with a late night channel 4 entertainment show. It is pure entertainment, as the other poster said there is an alternative, BB allows them to bend or break rules which don't endanger otherhousemates or offend people as a means of creating "television".

I hope you apply a more critical eye in your real life, freedom of thought and action is what stops nazism if we are going to use David's level of real life comparrison lol "IF THEY SAY JUMP I SAY HOW HIGH" not very ya fat bastard

[BitterFruit]

the arguement on both sides is in some respect mute since it is only a gameshow whose rules can be arbitrary at best..

its more interesting to see why people do things

David, I think, genuinely has code of "honour" about the rules: I kinda like him for it

Marcus I liked when he rule broke just to kick things up a bit
but
I liked him less when he briefly thought (along with Siavash and Freddie) that he was being a rebel...it had as much meaning and depth as rebelling at "Blind Mans Bluff" ..its a game

Charlie wants people to keep to the rules because he deeply fears losing through more unpredictability being introduced...i don't think he has any morals on rule-breaking really......he nicks drinks anyway :shocked:

[GirlsAloud]

Originally posted by pixee
Originally posted by kellybsblover
I guess it's a matter of principles and morals... I'm not expecting everyone to have it and no Rodrigo would not break rules to get what he wants. "IF THEY SAY JUMP I SAY HOW HIGH" not very ya fat b****** LMFAOOOO!

[Prole]

Rules are made for the obeyance of fools and the guidance of wise men.

[alchemists1]

None of the supposed non rule breakers were'nt so worried about those same rules when today they escaped from the house and were behind the scenes?
It's all BS Charlie is a thief wheres that in his morals and as for Rodrigo he has gotta be the biggest hypocrit in there,he goes on about rules and respect but will throw oil and water over beds and will drink lager that he has took a part in stealing,same goes for his many tantrums in the diary room kicking things and so on.
Fair enough I agree Siavash should have nominated but not on tonights show when it meant nothing but 3 weeks ago,but BB messed that 1 up.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by pixee
First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?

Rule-breaking and rebellion is a stage we all go through as teenagers - most of us outgrow it! Unfortunately - a few sad individuals remain stuck in that frame of mind because they don't have the emotional intelligence to realize that it is not cool - just pathetic!

[pixee]

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Originally posted by pixee
First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?

Rule-breaking and rebellion is a stage we all go through as teenagers - most of us outgrow it! Unfortunately - a few sad individuals remain stuck in that frame of mind because they don't have the emotional intelligence to realize that it is not cool - just pathetic!

Sorry you misunderstand me I don't think stomping around kicking doors like Rodrigo is "cool" or aggressively shouting at people like a "teenager" is cool like Charlie.

I think making a decision not to follow the rule of an entertainment programme as a personal choice is ok in my book.

And if you meant your statement as a comment on general life then again i would say Children follow what adults tell them growing up and learning allows you to question, critisize and formulate an opinion there is nothing mature about blindly following orders, especially of a false power, in this case a television channel.

It's an entertainment show and what he's done has created some entertainment what else would we be talking about? "oh Lisa smoked again did you see that?"

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by kellybsblover
I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

In that case do you disagree with rodrigo sophie charlie siavash AND marcus for breaking out of the BB house earlier today?

For someone with such strong views about rulebreaking...rodrigo is a hypocrite :laugh:

[pixee]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by kellybsblover
I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

In that case do you disagree with rodrigo sophie charlie siavash AND marcus for breaking out of the BB house earlier today?

For someone with such strong views about rulebreaking...rodrigo is a hypocrite :laugh:


I'm sure it was funny whe they did it.. lol

Rodrigo is the biggest hypocrite in the house no question.

Be interesting to see it tommorow

[Rob!]

I've never been able to understand Siavash's logic of not nominating - I'm kind of with Roddy on this one (and not just cause he's my fav :tongue:). One of the fundamental aspects of Big Brother is the nomination process and if your not prepared to do this as Siavash hasn't for quite a few weeks now, then why bother coming on the show?
In BB7 when there was about this many of them left, not one of them refused to nominate (I don't think) despite the fact that they were all close.
As well as that, rule breaking in Big Brother almost certainly guarantees you air time, so that has to be taken into consideration as well surely...?

[pixee]

Originally posted by RobInnes
I've never been able to understand Siavash's logic of not nominating - I'm kind of with Roddy on this one (and not just cause he's my fav :tongue:). One of the fundamental aspects of Big Brother is the nomination process and if your not prepared to do this as Siavash hasn't for quite a few weeks now, then why bother coming on the show?
In BB7 when there was about this many of them left, not one of them refused to nominate (I don't think) despite the fact that they were all close.
As well as that, rule breaking in Big Brother almost certainly guarantees you air time, so that has to be taken into consideration as well surely...?

*sighs* His logic is that he wants to face public vote before the final week so if he gets to the final week he hasn't had an easy ride, we all know it is the "rules" but it is purely about choice he has chose to do this the same as the others HAVE chose to nominate, if they all refused to nominate they would in all likely hood all go up for nomination which is quite fair

[Jords]

Originally posted by GirlsAloud
If it's possible to break the rules to get what they want (big brother gave them an alternative) then they will.. I would. xxxxx

I would too :joker:

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by pixee
Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Originally posted by pixee
First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?

Rule-breaking and rebellion is a stage we all go through as teenagers - most of us outgrow it! Unfortunately - a few sad individuals remain stuck in that frame of mind because they don't have the emotional intelligence to realize that it is not cool - just pathetic!

Sorry you misunderstand me I don't think stomping around kicking doors like Rodrigo is "cool" or aggressively shouting at people like a "teenager" is cool like Charlie.

I think making a decision not to follow the rule of an entertainment programme as a personal choice is ok in my book.

And if you meant your statement as a comment on general life then again i would say Children follow what adults tell them growing up and learning allows you to question, critisize and formulate an opinion there is nothing mature about blindly following orders, especially of a false power, in this case a television channel.

It's an entertainment show and what he's done has created some entertainment what else would we be talking about? "oh Lisa smoked again did you see that?"

Rodrigo only acts that way when he is genuinely upset - and he usually has good reason!

Marcus is a middle-aged man trying to be funny by acting like a 10 year-old and 'breaking the rules' - kids that age think it is cool and brave to break rules. Marcus is doing one of two things! He is either genuinely stuck in the mind-frame of a 10 year- old and actually thinks that type of behaviour is funny - or he doesn't have a very high opinion of the type of people that watch bb and think that they would find that entertaining - so behaves that way to make himself popular!

Either way - he is a loser!

[trasadkel]

Originally posted by RobInnes
I've never been able to understand Siavash's logic of not nominating - I'm kind of with Roddy on this one (and not just cause he's my fav :tongue:). One of the fundamental aspects of Big Brother is the nomination process and if your not prepared to do this as Siavash hasn't for quite a few weeks now, then why bother coming on the show?
In BB7 when there was about this many of them left, not one of them refused to nominate (I don't think) despite the fact that they were all close.
As well as that, rule breaking in Big Brother almost certainly guarantees you air time, so that has to be taken into consideration as well surely...?

I agree. I think Marcus and Siavash actions in this BB have ruined it. All I can say is after this fiasco and what BB have let people get away with this year does not bode well for BB11. Everyone will come in with the idea that they can just rebel and get away with it. It will descend into chaos.

I think the BB producers should have put their foot down with the rule breakers a long time ago. The whole concept of BB has now totally gone.

[pixee]

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Originally posted by pixee
Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Originally posted by pixee
First of all i think if you believe following rules without questioning or disagreeing is some how a good thing is a very dangerous train of thought.

In a gameshow situation based not on answering questions but providing interesting television, lets be honest arguments etc someone going against a group and doing something like this is entertaining.

He's been honest about it, fairly accurate with his assumption he is up for eviciton and neither of the people voted for by him refusing are effected, problem is what?

Rule-breaking and rebellion is a stage we all go through as teenagers - most of us outgrow it! Unfortunately - a few sad individuals remain stuck in that frame of mind because they don't have the emotional intelligence to realize that it is not cool - just pathetic!

Sorry you misunderstand me I don't think stomping around kicking doors like Rodrigo is "cool" or aggressively shouting at people like a "teenager" is cool like Charlie.

I think making a decision not to follow the rule of an entertainment programme as a personal choice is ok in my book.

And if you meant your statement as a comment on general life then again i would say Children follow what adults tell them growing up and learning allows you to question, critisize and formulate an opinion there is nothing mature about blindly following orders, especially of a false power, in this case a television channel.

It's an entertainment show and what he's done has created some entertainment what else would we be talking about? "oh Lisa smoked again did you see that?"

Rodrigo only acts that way when he is genuinely upset - and he usually has good reason!

Marcus is a middle-aged man trying to be funny by acting like a 10 year-old and 'breaking the rules' - kids that age think it is cool and brave to break rules. Marcus is doing one of two things! He is either genuinely stuck in the mind-frame of a 10 year- old and actually thinks that type of behaviour is funny - or he doesn't have a very high opinion of the type of people that watch bb and think that they would find that entertaining - so behaves that way to make himself popular!

Either way - he is a loser!

Yes Marcus is childish, as childish as Rodrigo if that is your point. Siavash is not behaving childishly though and neither is questioning rules as you tried to make out somehow childish and as far as the show goes it's good entertainment.

Apparently your mate, Rodrigo, has no such issue breaking rules which we will see tommorow, when it suits him

[Rob!]

Originally posted by trasadkel
Originally posted by RobInnes
I've never been able to understand Siavash's logic of not nominating - I'm kind of with Roddy on this one (and not just cause he's my fav :tongue:). One of the fundamental aspects of Big Brother is the nomination process and if your not prepared to do this as Siavash hasn't for quite a few weeks now, then why bother coming on the show?
In BB7 when there was about this many of them left, not one of them refused to nominate (I don't think) despite the fact that they were all close.
As well as that, rule breaking in Big Brother almost certainly guarantees you air time, so that has to be taken into consideration as well surely...?

I agree. I think Marcus and Siavash actions in this BB have ruined it. All I can say is after this fiasco and what BB have let people get away with this year does not bode well for BB11. Everyone will come in with the idea that they can just rebel and get away with it. It will descend into chaos.

I think the BB producers should have put their foot down with the rule breakers a long time ago. The whole concept of BB has now totally gone.

It's true - I've defended BB for all of the **** they've had this year, but allowing the housemates to discuss nominations was not the best idea they've ever had. It's like a five year old going "Can I have some sweets? Can I have some sweets? Can I have some sweets?" and eventualtly the irate parents gives in.
Possibly what BB was trying to do was to give the housemates the rope from which to hang themselves as they thought that everyone knowing who would nominate who would cause MASSIVE rows, which it kind of has, but not.
There was a time when BB ruled over everyone. Remember Kitten???

[JTM45]

Originally posted by kellybsblover
I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

How are you posting from inside the House David ?

"Blind acceptance is a sign, of stupid fools who stand in line" (John Lydon)

[comicbook]

come on people siavash breaking the rules has brought life into bb at least its made the show more interesting and its make us see the other true colours

[pixee]

Originally posted by JTM45
Originally posted by kellybsblover
I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

How are you posting from inside the House David ?

"Blind acceptance is a sign, of stupid fools who stand in line" (John Lydon)

Exactly although John Lydon is as much a celebrity wanabee as most of these tits, butter anyone? celebrity jungle? Good quote though :)

I respect principles not following of authority without question, there principles are "big brother told me to" Siavash's are for what ever reason "I don't want to nominate"

In truth they are Choosing to nominate he is CHOOSING not to simple.

[huggy1uk]

Originally posted by kellybsblover
I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

cos you are an arse - crawler in life

[huggy1uk]

Originally posted by kellybsblover
I guess it's a matter of principles and morals... I'm not expecting everyone to have it and no Rodrigo would not break rules to get what he wants.
its got nothing to do with principals u twat ( i love that word) people like you are not to be trusted cos u wil get someone hanged for ur principals therefore u are dangerous to know

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by kellybsblover
I enjoyed Rex last season. He was smart enough to be entertaining without breaking BB rules. Explain to me how breaking rules is entertaining?
I don't find it entertaining, especially when nerds are doing it to look cool.

[6*Alives]

Originally posted by kellybsblover
I guess it's a matter of principles and morals... I'm not expecting everyone to have it and no Rodrigo would not break rules to get what he wants.

Is stealing not a RUKE BREAK?
Is running around the camera runs not a RULE BREAK?

Rodrigo did both to get what he wanted,

He KNEW Sophie was going to steal Marcus's can, he did nothing making him an accomplice and he DRANK it --------> He got what he wanted = More alcohol!

He ran into the camera run cos he WANTED TO!!

He is SUCH a hypocrite!!1

[alchemists1]

The whole point thou is they all have the hump with Siavash not for not nominating but cause of how he will look to the viewers!
Why is Charlie Rodrigo and the others so concerned with how Siavash will look to us the viewers? it aint cause the final is soon?
Why was there that reaction to Siavash not nominating yesterday when whateva he did meant nothing anyways! why not 3 weeks ago?
The fake's and the actors are only concerned now cause they wanna slate there competition.

[Viper29]

The breaking of rules has ALWAYS been the entertaining part of BB.

Nasty nick in BB1
Raiding the fridge of the rich side
Jack Dee's attempts at escape

to name but a few.

This has been going on since 2000 guys, I don't see what the shock is all about!:shrug:

[dixiebell1991]

bb has lost the respect of the housemates. and if bb does not have full control over the house
there's no point in it being bb's house. It may as well be a fly on the wall documentary
of a load of people in an odd house.

[Twiggy]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by kellybsblover
I would never break the rules... in any circumstance.

In that case do you disagree with rodrigo sophie charlie siavash AND marcus for breaking out of the BB house earlier today?

For someone with such strong views about rulebreaking...rodrigo is a hypocrite :laugh: Most of them have broken the rules in the show somewhere or another. Marcus broke them many times in the beginning, then there was loads of rule breaking for talking about nominations and BB at that time did not punish the housemates as they should have done. This left it wide open for any of them to do whatever they wished, they couldn't suddenly start punishing someone for rule breaking when someone else had got away with the rule breaking constantly in the first place. Hence all the twists because their hands were tied because they did not nip it in the bud by kicking out the first offender from the start. My only worry is where will this rule breaking stop? It has opened up so much for any future BBs if there are any. I hate to think how far this rule breaking could eventually go. It will be a free for all/anything goes.