Violence erupts at London derby

[Mrluvaluva]

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A man has been stabbed in the chest during violence involving "hundreds" of fans outside West Ham's Upton Park stadium during a game with Millwall.

Fights broke out at 1915 BST and were still raging more than an hour later. A man was stabbed in nearby Priory Road at about 2025 BST.

A fan told the BBC it was the worst hooliganism he had seen in 30 years.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "It looks like there has been some planned trouble from fans."

He added: "Hundreds of fans are estimated to be involved."

The 44-year-old stab victim is said to be in a stable condition.

One pub reportedly had its windows broken by bricks during running battles across several streets up to half a mile from the stadium.

Two arrests have been confirmed, for affray and breaching a control order.

British Transport Police said they heard reports of minor overcrowding at Upton Park Tube station.


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The BBC's Ben Jacobs, who is at the stadium, said: "The trouble broke out outside the Tube station about 600 yards from the ground.

"There were 500 to 1,000 riot police and Millwall fans managed to break through the divide.

"Bottles were thrown and bricks were as well."

He added: "There has been a bit of trouble inside the ground.

"There was a penalty shout and fans started gesturing and throwing small objects."

Aaron Smith from Hemel Hempstead, who was at the game, said: "I saw one man cornered by at least a dozen Millwall fans before kick-off. Terrifying scenes."

Eyewitness Fergal O'Brien said: "I saw a West Ham fan getting punched in the face by a burly bald man who had a coin between his fists."

Another fan said: "I was in a throng walking up and a group of hooligans came for us.

"The police wanted to help but they were clearly afraid to use force. I am still shaking. I thought I was going to die."

Meanwhile Ben Newton, from Harrow, north London, said his father had been stretchered away after being hit with a dart to the head.

And a Millwall fan told the BBC: "It was like a war zone outside the stadium. There was fighting all round.

"I brought my kids with me tonight and they've seen some violence that is indescribable."


BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8221451.stm)



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[Mrluvaluva]

SKY report (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Several-Arrests-After-Violence-Flared-Outside-West-Hams-Upton-Park-Ground-Ahead-Of-Millwall-Game/Article/200908415368567?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15368567_Several_Arrests_After_Violenc e_Flared_Outside_West_Hams_Upton_Park_Ground_Ahead _Of_Millwall_Game)

[Novo]

It was always going to happen

[Mrluvaluva]

Apparently the Millwall fans are being kept inside the stadium.



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[Brad.]

typical :rolleyes:

[Mrluvaluva]

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[Alf]

scum

[Mrluvaluva]

More footage.



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[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

SSN has shown some bad images.

They knew that this would happen, both clubs and police should have had a bigger influence on the match and surrounding area.

I'm a spurs fan and two years ago I went to the Spurs Arsenal game, that game was really heavily policed, walking from the ground to seven sisters tube there were the meat wagons they used parked back to back to back, 67 yes, 67 in a long line that strecthed almost until Tottenham Police Station, loads of police. I highly doubt that the police pressence was that high tonight, but with the history between these clubs (and both clubs have a history of trouble (and glourified in films) it was always going to happen.

They ain't football fans, they are just scum. Too often football becomes tribal and thats a god awful thing, sure we like to wind our friends up over the results but jesus christ do you really need to be that much of a thick tw*t to stab someone over it, and worse.

[Mrluvaluva]

The Football Association 'strongly expect' all culprits involved in the violence which marred West Ham United's Carling Cup tie with Millwall to be banned from football for life.

Prior to the second round tie at Upton Park, a man was stabbed and trouble flared between opposing supporters in what police labelled "large-scale" trouble.

There were also several pitch invasions in the latter stages of the game, which West Ham won 3-1 after extra time.

Hundreds of fans were involved in the disorder which police said was caused by people without tickets to the tie who had planned to start trouble.

Police said later that the victim of the stabbing was a 44-year-old man who was in a stable condition in hospital.

A Football Association spokesperson said: "We absolutely condemn all of the disorder that has occurred at Upton Park this evening both inside and outside of the ground.

"We will be working with all parties, including the police and clubs, to establish the facts surrounding tonight's events.

"We strongly expect all culprits to be banned from football for life. They have no place in our game."

As the final whistle blew at Upton Park hundreds of fans invaded the pitch. Police and stewards battled with fans in an attempt to remove them from the field of play.

As thousands of fans flooded from the ground, police closed several roads surrounding Upton Park and ushered them towards the tube station.

Around 200 officers in riot gear, backed up by at least 20 mounted officers, patrolled outside the station.

Rubbish, shards of glass and beer cans were strewn across Green Street and bricks could be seen in rubbish bins.

The Metropolitan Police said tonight they had no reports of any officers being injured during the violence.


SKY (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12040_5513883,0.html)



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[30stone]

Too much happened in that match.

Ridiculous.

[Mrluvaluva]

I wonder what it's been like on the tube tonight? I am glad I wasn't out. West Ham is only 3 stops away. East Ham/West Ham are scary enough on a normal day. I feel sorry for all the people caught up in it.

[30stone]

My dad said when he went upton park, he was worried,

None of him and his friends wore their reading shirts..

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Originally posted by 30stone
My dad said when he went upton park, he was worried,

None of him and his friends wore their reading shirts..

I went as an away Plymouth fan in the league cup a couple of years ago and we wore the colours, no trouble whatsoever. Its because its Millwall, if it was another London club I would be wary, but then thats no different for any other derby. It was all the worse because of the history and background of the clubs, deaths over the years won't be forgotten either.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky

Its because its Millwall, if it was another London club I would be wary, but then thats no different for any other derby. It was all the worse because of the history and background of the clubs, deaths over the years won't be forgotten either.


Millwall were causing a lot of the trouble tonight from what I can gather, but then it takes two to tango I suppose.



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[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky

Its because its Millwall, if it was another London club I would be wary, but then thats no different for any other derby. It was all the worse because of the history and background of the clubs, deaths over the years won't be forgotten either.


Millwall were causing a lot of the trouble tonight from what I can gather, but then it takes two to tango I suppose.



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Oh, no - I wasn't saying it was Millwalls fault, I was saying it was trouble because it was against Millwall and West Ham/Millwall have history. If West Ham drew any other team it wouldn't have happen.

I can see what I wrote seems like I was saying it was Millwall, that was not my intention.

whoops

[alc09]

What the **** were you expecting?

There was always going to be trouble, its been part of the culture for years FFS just accept it.

The only way it will be stopped is if all men aged 18-50 have there arms and legs cut off.

[alc09]

Originally posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky
Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky

Its because its Millwall, if it was another London club I would be wary, but then thats no different for any other derby. It was all the worse because of the history and background of the clubs, deaths over the years won't be forgotten either.


Millwall were causing a lot of the trouble tonight from what I can gather, but then it takes two to tango I suppose.



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Oh, no - I wasn't saying it was Millwalls fault, I was saying it was trouble because it was against Millwall and West Ham/Millwall have history. If West Ham drew any other team it wouldn't have happen.

I can see what I wrote seems like I was saying it was Millwall, that was not my intention.

whoops
Absolute shite.

The fact its Millwall makes it more likely, but to say it wouldn't kick off if West Ham drew any other team is laughable.

Could easily of kicked off against the likes of Leeds and Cardiff if they were drawn, as well as the usual suspects from the Premier League.

You are talking nonsense.