Siavash's nomination logic

[Vicky.]

Siavash asked Marcus who he voted for, it was Sophie and David. Sophie told him she was voting Marcus and David,
Siavash said he could not ask Rodrigo, as he wouldnt say, sophie said, Oh he will be voting Marcus and David...

Siavash knew Lisa, Charlie and David would be voting For him
and Marcus, so lets add these up...

Marcus 5

Siavash 3

David 3

Sophie 1

So, in his mind, if he had voted for David it would have put up just Marcus and David, which is what he said, and he would not have been up...he could not vote for himself with his second vote, so he was trying to get 3 up in the mix, which included himself. He was wrong because Rodrigo voted him and Marcus, but he had no reason to think Sophie would of got Rods nominations wrong...they are very close.

A bit complicated I know...but I believe this is what he meant, hopefully you understand it...

[pixee]

I think that's a good summary and hopefully will help people understand, I think people have jumped to the assumption he was trying to avoid nominations his whole theory is based on HIM going up hence "no free rides"

[setanta]

Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

[J-Rock]

Totally with you and thanks for the calculations (coz I was having trouble!). Vash was being genuine imo.

[pixee]

Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

No lol

If he had voted david he was assuming just David and Marcus were up by the logic Vicky explained.

The point is he was going up against Marcus who he knows has survived nominations and to him, very liked on the outside. And the point your making only would have value if he HAD voted for David surely?

[hennessy]

That's the way I read it, didn't realise he had a prior meeting with Sophie tho

[Akerbie]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Siavash asked Marcus who he voted for, it was Sophie and David. Sophie told him she was voting Marcus and David,
Siavash said he could not ask Rodrigo, as he wouldnt say, sophie said, Oh he will be voting Marcus and David...

Siavash knew Lisa, Charlie and David would be voting For him
and Marcus, so lets add these up...

Marcus 5

Siavash 3

David 3

Sophie 1

So, in his mind, if he had voted for David it would have put up just Marcus and David, which is what he said, and he would not have been up...he could not vote for himself with his second vote, so he was trying to get 3 up in the mix, which included himself. He was wrong because Rodrigo voted him and Marcus, but he had no reason to think Sophie would of got Rods nominations wrong...they are very close.

A bit complicated I know...but I believe this is what he meant, hopefully you understand it...

This is a well thought out and organised post. Short and sweet. It's a shame you weren't in the house for 5 minutes to tell them this.

Lisa, David, and Charlie were always gonna vote the same way. The real casting vote belonged to Rodrigo. Why did he vote for Siavash? Especially has he and Sophie have been really close to him. Charlie is a bad influence I believe. I think he is just using folk. He had no need to bring up Siavash's girlfriend during the arguement. It had nothing to do with the topic. He was just trying to throw more dirt in Siavash's face to make himself look better.

I am a big fan of Rodrigo, but I'm afraid to say he has really disappointed me the last two days.:sad:

[BJ]

I think Siavash just got the numbers wrong. He believed (as I did) that Rodrigo wouldn't vote for him. He clearly didn't want to go up in a 1 x 1 against Marcus but was prepared for a 3 way with Marcus and David because he believed David would go which he almost certainly would.

Siavash has shot himself in the foot and must be regretting it tonight. I bet Lisa and David go to bed with a smile on their faces.

I'm a Rodrigo fan and I can't in all honesty say I'm disappointed in him. He's acted true to form - obeying the rules seems to be extremely important to him and I think he personally is disappointed in Siavash because he put Sophie in the firing line. I don't think Rodrigo was influenced by Charlie. His gripe with Siavash was different from Charlies.

[WAYNEEBRUM]

thats what i said in a simpler fashion and u disagreed in another thread.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by WAYNEEBRUM
thats what i said in a simpler fashion and u disagreed in another thread.

I obviously totally misunderstood you then, I dont even remember it :conf:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by BJ
I think Siavash just got the numbers wrong. He believed (as I did) that Rodrigo wouldn't vote for him. He clearly didn't want to go up in a 1 x 1 against Marcus but was prepared for a 3 way with Marcus and David because he believed David would go which he almost certainly would.

Siavash has shot himself in the foot and must be regretting it tonight. I bet Lisa and David go to bed with a smile on their faces.

Based on the nominations he believed happened though, there is NO way that he would of been up against marcus in a 1v1

[munky]

I really don't care anymore. Letting housemates talk about nominations was the beginning of the end. It was obvious that every nominations day would degenerate into a squabbling match. It is not even entertaining to watch.

Whatever Siavash's intentions, he is manipulating the nominations to his own end. This must surely be a reason to kick him out!

BB is now utterly dead and lost all credibility. RIP Endemol.

[guigy]

Do you think Thicko David will realise after noms anounced the he saved his Arse

Probably not too wrapped up in asking how high to jump

[HalfwitFTW]

Yep this is what I've been trying to say

[BJ]

Originally posted by guigy
Do you think Thicko David will realise after noms anounced the he saved his Arse

Probably not too wrapped up in asking how high to jump

That's an interesting thought. I think David understands the game well and sometimes wonder if he's as thick as he sometimes tries to have us believe.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

[silversurfer]

Siavash is perplexing i really hope his motives are genuine or the public could turn...

[GypsyGoth]

Good post VickyJ, it does make sense. I didn't really grasp it before.

[WAYNEEBRUM]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Yep this is what I've been trying to say
not quite,you were trying to say Siavash wasnt scared of going against Marcus head to head but the fact is he thought Dave would be up which is why he refused to nom.Hes scared of going up or he is desperate to win,you decide.

[bigfan]

Originally posted by pixee
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

No lol

If he had voted david he was assuming just David and Marcus were up by the logic Vicky explained.

The point is he was going up against Marcus who he knows has survived nominations and to him, very liked on the outside. And the point your making only would have value if he HAD voted for David surely?

How was he? he knew
Lias Charlie david would vote him and Marcus,
Sophie was voting Marcus and David
Rodrigo was voting Marcus and David (so Sopie told him) Marcus voted Sophie and David....
equaled 5 for Marcus, 3 for david 3 for him. If he had voted for David that would have meant David had 4 therefore Marcus and David would be up, what he didnt know whas tha Rodrigo voted for him and Marcus, so he was up anyway, his nomination wouldnt have changed anything,

[guigy]

Originally posted by munky
I really don't care anymore. Letting housemates talk about nominations was the beginning of the end. It was obvious that every nominations day would degenerate into a squabbling match. It is not even entertaining to watch.

Whatever Siavash's intentions, he is manipulating the nominations to his own end. This must surely be a reason to kick him out!

BB is now utterly dead and lost all credibility. RIP Endemol.

I know what you mean about not caring anymore this series as been crap
Allowing noms talk was ok at first it was something we hadn,t seen before (which as been rare this series) but should have only lasted a day or so, then it should have been stopped
It would have messed with their heads more trying to second guess everyone

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Siavash asked Marcus who he voted for, it was Sophie and David. Sophie told him she was voting Marcus and David,
Siavash said he could not ask Rodrigo, as he wouldnt say, sophie said, Oh he will be voting Marcus and David...

Siavash knew Lisa, Charlie and David would be voting For him
and Marcus, so lets add these up...

Marcus 5

Siavash 3

David 3

Sophie 1

So, in his mind, if he had voted for David it would have put up just Marcus and David, which is what he said, and he would not have been up...he could not vote for himself with his second vote, so he was trying to get 3 up in the mix, which included himself. He was wrong because Rodrigo voted him and Marcus, but he had no reason to think Sophie would of got Rods nominations wrong...they are very close.

A bit complicated I know...but I believe this is what he meant, hopefully you understand it... I still think he assumed too much and instead of making sure by nominating david he assumed rod would vote for david which he didnt
Siavash wanted to save his own a$$ by having david up, but now he has messed up big time for his arrogance and assumptions

[Iamneutral]

You all are missing the point if he wanted to go up why did he not just ask to be put up no he wanted to go up against David because he knew he would sail into the final

[setanta]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...

But I don't think he could be convinced of David going up especially when you look at who's voting in the house. My bet is he realised it was close so he wanted to continue he martyr act and on his dull non voting tactic in the hope that it would win him votes outside. Divulging it to Rodrigo was more of the same thing..... looking for the airtime and the sympathy of the audience.

[fitz2k2]

doesnt matter charlie n rod wont listen

[setanta]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by WAYNEEBRUM
Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Yep this is what I've been trying to say
not quite,you were trying to say Siavash wasnt scared of going against Marcus head to head but the fact is he thought Dave would be up which is why he refused to nom.Hes scared of going up or he is desperate to win,you decide.

:rolleyes:
How many times do you need it explained to you? Its not rocket science you know
If he was scared of going up, he would have nominated Marcus and David, making a Marcus V David result
But he didnt
and put himself up
Hence- not scared
And of course he would like to win, who in there wouldnt?
You go on a gameshow to win dont you

[silversurfer]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...

But I don't think he could be convinced of David going up especially when you look at who's voting in the house. My bet is he realised it was close so he wanted to continue he martyr act and on his dull non voting tactic in the hope that it would win him votes outside. Divulging it to Rodrigo was more of the same thing..... looking for the airtime and the sympathy of the audience.

im leaning towards that...

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by pixee
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

No lol

If he had voted david he was assuming just David and Marcus were up by the logic Vicky explained.

The point is he was going up against Marcus who he knows has survived nominations and to him, very liked on the outside. And the point your making only would have value if he HAD voted for David surely?

How was he? he knew
Lias Charlie david would vote him and Marcus,
Sophie was voting Marcus and David
Rodrigo was voting Marcus and David (so Sopie told him) Marcus voted Sophie and David....
equaled 5 for Marcus, 3 for david 3 for him. If he had voted for David that would have meant David had 4 therefore Marcus and David would be up, what he didnt know whas tha Rodrigo voted for him and Marcus, so he was up anyway, his nomination wouldnt have changed anything,

Exactly. He had no reason to doubt what sophie said rods nominations would be as they were close...sophie obviously thought roddy would vote that way, he probably would of, until charlie got to him to be honest...

If he wanted David out, based on the information he had, he would of voted for David. Simple.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.

No clue about that.

At all.

I am just explaining what he was doing regarding nominations.

[pixee]

Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by pixee
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

No lol

If he had voted david he was assuming just David and Marcus were up by the logic Vicky explained.

The point is he was going up against Marcus who he knows has survived nominations and to him, very liked on the outside. And the point your making only would have value if he HAD voted for David surely?

How was he? he knew
Lias Charlie david would vote him and Marcus,
Sophie was voting Marcus and David
Rodrigo was voting Marcus and David (so Sopie told him) Marcus voted Sophie and David....
equaled 5 for Marcus, 3 for david 3 for him. If he had voted for David that would have meant David had 4 therefore Marcus and David would be up, what he didnt know whas tha Rodrigo voted for him and Marcus, so he was up anyway, his nomination wouldnt have changed anything,

I can't tell which side people are on anymore lol

My point is he could have put David up as far as he was concerned and didn't he wanted to go up against Marcus.

I agree with Vicky if it is unclear lol

[munky]

The most infuriating part is Pinky and the Brain just sit back and watch everyone else slowly pick each other off week by week.

Their plan to take over the world is slowly coming to fruition.

[mother6]

The truth of the matter is that Siavash wrongly predicted the nominations as Charlie said 'are you psychic'. He knew him and Marcus were going to be up he tried to drag David in to the equation as he believed David would be voted out.
Even if he had used his vote and nominated David, Marcus and he would still be up. It amazes me that he tries to make viewers believe by not nominating he put himself up for eviction. Siavash if you really wanted to face the public vote ask your HM's to nominate you like Marcus did.

[jgfrise]

If they had listened to Siavash in the first place this scenario would not have occurred. He wanted them to vote tactically so that all housemates were up for eviction, which would have avoided any arguments. They are so thick that they did not understand what he was talking about, and stated that they were not going to be told who to vote for. They could have manipulated it so that all 7 were up for eviction. Pity as that would have been the fairest situation in the week before the final:xyxwave:

[jet]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...

But I don't think he could be convinced of David going up especially when you look at who's voting in the house. My bet is he realised it was close so he wanted to continue he martyr act and on his dull non voting tactic in the hope that it would win him votes outside. Divulging it to Rodrigo was more of the same thing..... looking for the airtime and the sympathy of the audience.

That's how I see it. He really is the biggest game player in there.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.


So now him just having a conversation with Rodrigo means he wants to start a big argument in order to make himself look good.

:rolleyes:

Ok

[setanta]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.

No clue about that.

At all.

I am just explaining what he was doing regarding nominations.

I understand, but him voting would have no value to him, as he explained before that Marcus, David and him being up was the perfect scenario for him. He's just playing the moral card again and it's getting very very dull.

Still don't think he could ever have the votes that clear in his mind anyway.... and sure if he did it's quite obvious he's playing a game and every action he takes now is entirely deliberate. Proves that he's a total gameplayer and I wouldn't trust anything he says right now.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by mother6
The truth of the matter is that Siavash wrongly predicted the nominations as Charlie said 'are you psychic'. He knew him and Marcus were going to be up he tried to drag David in to the equation as he believed David would be voted out.
Even if he had used his vote and nominated David, Marcus and he would still be up. It amazes me that he tries to make viewers believe by not nominating he put himself up for eviction. Siavash if you really wanted to face the public vote ask your HM's to nominate you like Marcus did.

He didnt wrongly predict the nominations.

He was told Marcus' Sophie's and Rods(from sophie)

He guessed lisa david and charlies...and was spot on. Theirs was pretty obvious.

[BONNEIP]

When all is said and done....Siavash has been playing the game....his game & is heading right towards the £100k prize which he has done nothing to merit winning. Marcus luv or hate him has by a mile been the best housemate in BB history....thats fact.

[setanta]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by setanta
Yep, and he was sure he'd stay and David would go.... sure he said it earlier on in the programme that he wanted this outcome, so there was more value in not voting and then causing a scene outside later on. All tactics on his part that have backfired now although he's still placed himself in the martyr role....zzzzzzzzzzz.

How did Siavash know they would start a scene outside? he was just sat talking to Sophie and didnt even know what was going on.

So why did he mention it to Rodrigo, a guy who's obsessed with the rules? He wanted them to start bickering.


So now him just having a conversation with Rodrigo means he wants to start a big argument in order to make himself look good.

:rolleyes:

Ok

Of course that was his main motivation. Did you see the smile on his face in the diary room afterwards? Come on, it's entirely deliberate.

[Kate!]

vicky you are spot on with this.:flower:

[illusionist]

[i]

He didnt wrongly predict the nominations.

He was told Marcus' Sophie's and Rods(from sophie)

He guessed lisa david and charlies...and was spot on. Theirs was pretty obvious.

You got siavash's theory spot on Vicky and you have put it in a nice way..

I gues he could have mentioned to the pack of wolves on their face that one doesnt need sexth sense to guess lisa and her puppets nominations..

it would be the survivor vs sophie on tuesday sadly..

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by mother6
The truth of the matter is that Siavash wrongly predicted the nominations as Charlie said 'are you psychic'. He knew him and Marcus were going to be up he tried to drag David in to the equation as he believed David would be voted out.
Even if he had used his vote and nominated David, Marcus and he would still be up. It amazes me that he tries to make viewers believe by not nominating he put himself up for eviction. Siavash if you really wanted to face the public vote ask your HM's to nominate you like Marcus did.

He didnt wrongly predict the nominations.

He was told Marcus' Sophie's and Rods(from sophie)

He guessed lisa david and charlies...and was spot on. Theirs was pretty obvious. BUt rod didnt tell sophie or anyone else who he was nomming so why was she so certain??
Siavash knows rodrigo tells noone who he nomms so why did he take what she said as read??

[munky]

Originally posted by jgfrise
If they had listened to Siavash in the first place this scenario would not have occurred. He wanted them to vote tactically so that all housemates were up for eviction, which would have avoided any arguments. They are so thick that they did not understand what he was talking about, and stated that they were not going to be told who to vote for. They could have manipulated it so that all 7 were up for eviction. Pity as that would have been the fairest situation in the week before the final:xyxwave:

But the whole point is it's not about being fair!!!! It is about nominating who the housemates want to go not base it on the misguided so called morality (or gameplanning or whatever you want to call it) of some Iranian dude or what he considers to be 'fair'.

It's just not cricket!

[mother6]

This could all have been avoided if BB took the stance that anyone failing to nominate faces the public vote. In Siavash's case where he continually flouts the rules is simple, the diary room door to your left is open, you are free to leave.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by setanta

Of course that was his main motivation. Did you see the smile on his face in the diary room afterwards? Come on, it's entirely deliberate.


Why would he want the rest of the house bitching about him, ganging up on him and making him look bad? Because what they said about his gf DID make him look bad

Dont know why you think he would deliberately want them bad mouthing him?:conf:

But ok you keep believing that

[morris09]

Originally posted by BJ

I'm a Rodrigo fan and I can't in all honesty say I'm disappointed in him. He's acted true to form - obeying the rules seems to be extremely important to him and I think he personally is disappointed in Siavash because he put Sophie in the firing line. I don't think Rodrigo was influenced by Charlie. His gripe with Siavash was different from Charlies.

Why didn't he obey the rules yesterday afternoon and not run out of the BB house and into the production area!? The reason is simple: as the majority - Lisa and David were sightseeing around London - participated he wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. Rodrigo only attacks people when he feels comfortable which is cowardly.

[dwarling]

Well I have never liked or really agreed with Charlie but I think he was right when he said 'if you only did that because you wanted to be up, you could have just asked everyone to put you up' as he could have, instead of trying to play innocent. I've alway's liked Siavash, but by trying to manipulate nomination's he's effed everthing up.

[santaa]

He dug himself in a hole with his refusal to nominate in earlier rounds. Schemed his way out of it, thinking he would be safe against David and not lose face ,sticking to his principles.He had it all worked out. Thought he knew what he was doing.

[Jords]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Siavash asked Marcus who he voted for, it was Sophie and David. Sophie told him she was voting Marcus and David,
Siavash said he could not ask Rodrigo, as he wouldnt say, sophie said, Oh he will be voting Marcus and David...

Siavash knew Lisa, Charlie and David would be voting For him
and Marcus, so lets add these up...

Marcus 5

Siavash 3

David 3

Sophie 1

So, in his mind, if he had voted for David it would have put up just Marcus and David, which is what he said, and he would not have been up...he could not vote for himself with his second vote, so he was trying to get 3 up in the mix, which included himself. He was wrong because Rodrigo voted him and Marcus, but he had no reason to think Sophie would of got Rods nominations wrong...they are very close.

A bit complicated I know...but I believe this is what he meant, hopefully you understand it...

Thank you so much for this thread, people wernt getting the whole thing properly, should clear it all up, apart from those who will try to make Siavash look bad whatever the weather.

[free3]

siavash nom logic is to save siavash,sly fu.cker. thinks his cleaver:yuk: if he wanted to be up every week he would have just said put me up . but noooooooooooo what he wants is every1 up so he can hide in the crowd. see right through the low life freak.

[morris09]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by setanta

Of course that was his main motivation. Did you see the smile on his face in the diary room afterwards? Come on, it's entirely deliberate.


Why would he want the rest of the house bitching about him, ganging up on him and making him look bad? Because what they said about his gf DID make him look bad

Dont know why you think he would deliberately want them bad mouthing him?:conf:

But ok you keep believing that

Yeah it didn't work so well for Freddie when he was having problems with Bea. He got shown the door:joker:

[morris09]

Originally posted by free3
siavash nom logic is to save siavash,sly fu.cker. thinks his cleaver:yuk: if he wanted to be up every week he would have just said put me up . but noooooooooooo what he wants is every1 up so he can hide in the crowd. see right through the low life freak.

Like Lisa has been doing for the past 8 weeks

[setanta]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by setanta

Of course that was his main motivation. Did you see the smile on his face in the diary room afterwards? Come on, it's entirely deliberate.


Why would he want the rest of the house bitching about him, ganging up on him and making him look bad? Because what they said about his gf DID make him look bad

Dont know why you think he would deliberately want them bad mouthing him?:conf:

But ok you keep believing that

Of course he did. There's no other explanation for him blurting it out to Rodrigo and his satisfied look in the diary room afterwards kinda cemented everything for me. He knows what he's doing.

[jean51]

i watched last night and i honestley believe that siavash is honest! marcus backstabbed him last night in the garden but didnt say it to his face. i am voting marcus out can not stand the man!

[free3]

dont care about lisa or any of them, freddie was my fav and he went long ago. if it were lisa v siavash i would still say siavash out his a sly f.u.c.k.er.

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by jean51
i watched last night and i honestley believe that siavash is honest! marcus backstabbed him last night in the garden but didnt say it to his face. i am voting marcus out can not stand the man! And sophie is a binge drinking thief whats worse ehh

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Siavash asked Marcus who he voted for, it was Sophie and David. Sophie told him she was voting Marcus and David,
Siavash said he could not ask Rodrigo, as he wouldnt say, sophie said, Oh he will be voting Marcus and David...

Siavash knew Lisa, Charlie and David would be voting For him
and Marcus, so lets add these up...

Marcus 5

Siavash 3

David 3

Sophie 1

So, in his mind, if he had voted for David it would have put up just Marcus and David, which is what he said, and he would not have been up...he could not vote for himself with his second vote, so he was trying to get 3 up in the mix, which included himself. He was wrong because Rodrigo voted him and Marcus, but he had no reason to think Sophie would of got Rods nominations wrong...they are very close.

A bit complicated I know...but I believe this is what he meant, hopefully you understand it...
I agree with this. He did want to go up. But he was happy to do that thinking that David would be up as well.

He could have asked everyone to nom him and put him up, but as he said, he doesn't want it to be Marcus vs Siavash. Funny that. :rolleyes:

[jet]

Originally posted by morris09
Originally posted by free3
siavash nom logic is to save siavash,sly fu.cker. thinks his cleaver:yuk: if he wanted to be up every week he would have just said put me up . but noooooooooooo what he wants is every1 up so he can hide in the crowd. see right through the low life freak.

Like Lisa has been doing for the past 8 weeks

HUH? :conf: When has Lisa wanted everyone up so she could hide in the crowd? :conf:

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...
In Siavash's mind, nomming David means David vs Marcus. But he wanted to be up, and was fine with that as long as it was a 3-way.

Because it makes him LOOK GOOD being up, but also he feels secure that David would go.

LOOKING GOOD + David Going = Result

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ
If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...
In Siavash's mind, nomming David means David vs Marcus. But he wanted to be up, and was fine with that as long as it was a 3-way.

Because it makes him LOOK GOOD being up, but also he feels secure that David would go.

LOOKING GOOD + David Going = Result

How do you expect he knows that david would go?

For all he knows dave could be favourite to win.

[free3]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ
If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...
In Siavash's mind, nomming David means David vs Marcus. But he wanted to be up, and was fine with that as long as it was a 3-way.

Because it makes him LOOK GOOD being up, but also he feels secure that David would go.

LOOKING GOOD + David Going = Result

How do you expect he knows that david would go?

For all he knows dave could be favourite to win. yep agree sly g.i.t

[BBfan46]

Originally posted by Akerbie
Originally posted by VickyJ
Siavash asked Marcus who he voted for, it was Sophie and David. Sophie told him she was voting Marcus and David,
Siavash said he could not ask Rodrigo, as he wouldnt say, sophie said, Oh he will be voting Marcus and David...

Siavash knew Lisa, Charlie and David would be voting For him
and Marcus, so lets add these up...

Marcus 5

Siavash 3

David 3

Sophie 1

So, in his mind, if he had voted for David it would have put up just Marcus and David, which is what he said, and he would not have been up...he could not vote for himself with his second vote, so he was trying to get 3 up in the mix, which included himself. He was wrong because Rodrigo voted him and Marcus, but he had no reason to think Sophie would of got Rods nominations wrong...they are very close.

A bit complicated I know...but I believe this is what he meant, hopefully you understand it...

This is a well thought out and organised post. Short and sweet. It's a shame you weren't in the house for 5 minutes to tell them this.

Lisa, David, and Charlie were always gonna vote the same way. The real casting vote belonged to Rodrigo. Why did he vote for Siavash? Especially has he and Sophie have been really close to him. Charlie is a bad influence I believe. I think he is just using folk. He had no need to bring up Siavash's girlfriend during the arguement. It had nothing to do with the topic. He was just trying to throw more dirt in Siavash's face to make himself look better.

I am a big fan of Rodrigo, but I'm afraid to say he has really disappointed me the last two days.:sad:

I know Charlie's far from perfect, but Sia mentioned Bea and threw dirt in Charlie's face first.

[minx36]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ
If indeed he wants David to go... surely he would have voted david and marcus...seeing as the HMs all think marcus is unbeatable at the minute...
In Siavash's mind, nomming David means David vs Marcus. But he wanted to be up, and was fine with that as long as it was a 3-way.

Because it makes him LOOK GOOD being up, but also he feels secure that David would go.

LOOKING GOOD + David Going = Result

Totally agree!
Well said!

Get Siavash out!

[RCW1945]

Several things have struck me since the nomination discussions have been allowed.
1. the supremely confident way almost all of them have been certain that they know how the others have voted;
2. the almost totally honest way they have reported their own votes to the others.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
How do you expect he knows that david would go?

For all he knows dave could be favourite to win.
That's true, but they kinda have a sense of what's going on. I definitely agree with the HMs that there's an element of wanting to 'look good' by putting himself up.

People cannot say that his PURE motivation is to be up; he could ask people to nom him, hence Marcus vs Siavash.

As he said, he didn't want this scenario.

[King Gizzard]

Its a shame team bitch have ganged up on him again. Another scapegoat. What a bunch of vile prats

[free3]

siavash thought 3 way, marcus himself and david. david goes, siavash looks like a good guy, crap, his a sly **** his a player, some of us see it others are fooled. i ee right through the ****

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nathan
Its a shame team bitch have ganged up on him again. Another scapegoat. What a bunch of vile prats
It was a bit bizarre this time, because he was going up anyway, he was essentially helping their cause out. They were just angry that he did it in a way that made him look better in the public eye.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ
How do you expect he knows that david would go?

For all he knows dave could be favourite to win.
That's true, but they kinda have a sense of what's going on. I definitely agree with the HMs that there's an element of wanting to 'look good' by putting himself up.

People cannot say that his PURE motivation is to be up; he could ask people to nom him, hence Marcus vs Siavash.

As he said, he didn't want this scenario.

They have no idea what is going on really...kris getting evicted was a massive shock to them, hira, and also freddie. They would be total fools to believe they know what is going on in the outside world when they have been so wrong in the past.

I dont understand why he didnt just ask people to nominate him, the jury is out on that one...I'll get back to you. But I disagree that the whole thing is anywhere near as bad as some are trying to make out.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by free3
siavash thought 3 way, marcus himself and david. david goes, siavash looks like a good guy, cr*p, his a sly f.u.ck. his a player, some of us see it others are fooled. i ee right through the tw.at .
Yes, he's happy to be the hero and go up, as long as others are in the mix. But he's not happy to ask people to nom him, to ensure a 2-way eviction. He could have asked people to put him up and ensure a 2-way. But no, he's not up for that whatsoever.

Looking Good + 3 way eviction = Result.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by Nathan
Its a shame team bitch have ganged up on him again. Another scapegoat. What a bunch of vile prats
It was a bit bizarre this time, because he was going up anyway, he was essentially helping their cause out. They were just angry that he did it in a way that made him look better in the public eye. I thought the way charlie and rodrigo especially acted was hilarious. And siavash was right about it being because they want to win so bad.

Lisa however, I was pleasently surprised again...kept out of it except a few little snipes...david was just ridiculous with his whole jumping thing :laugh2:

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ

I dont understand why he didnt just ask people to nominate him, the jury is out on that one...I'll get back to you. But I disagree that the whole thing is anywhere near as bad as some are trying to make out.
Because he doesn't want a 2-way eviction. He even said this to Charlie, because it would result in Marcus vs Siavash. He doesn't want that. He didn't elaborate on why that wasn't a good result for him though.

He seems very content that, in his mind at least, it'd be a 3-way eviction. But the idea of asking people to nom him, and a 2-way eviction, repulsed him.

Like I said, EVERYTHING is fine and dandy as long as it's 3-way. He obviously feels confident that he'd stay if others are up.

I agree with you it's stupid for HMs to assume jack. But he obviously must assume stuff.

[Tom4784]

He's playing a game, he's put himself up for nomination so he can build up rapport for the final week. It disgusts me to say it but Marcus and Charlie hit the nail on the head. Siavash will do anything to win, he's up there with Charlie for sheer desperation.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Lisa however, I was pleasently surprised again...kept out of it except a few little snipes...david was just ridiculous with his whole jumping thing :laugh2:
Lisa is the real gameplayer, real gameplayer's don't end up being in 2-way evictions. :wink:

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Siavash asked Marcus who he voted for, it was Sophie and David. Sophie told him she was voting Marcus and David,
Siavash said he could not ask Rodrigo, as he wouldnt say, sophie said, Oh he will be voting Marcus and David...

Siavash knew Lisa, Charlie and David would be voting For him
and Marcus, so lets add these up...

Marcus 5

Siavash 3

David 3

Sophie 1

So, in his mind, if he had voted for David it would have put up just Marcus and David, which is what he said, and he would not have been up...he could not vote for himself with his second vote, so he was trying to get 3 up in the mix, which included himself. He was wrong because Rodrigo voted him and Marcus, but he had no reason to think Sophie would of got Rods nominations wrong...they are very close.

A bit complicated I know...but I believe this is what he meant, hopefully you understand it...

I'm so glad someone has done this post.

He also said that he was prepared to take the risk of David NOT being up and it being a head to head between himself and Marcus, he just wanted to be up himself anyway so that the public could decide whether he deserves a place in the final week or not. Like he said, no free rides.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ

Lisa however, I was pleasently surprised again...kept out of it except a few little snipes...david was just ridiculous with his whole jumping thing :laugh2:
Lisa is the real gameplayer, real gameplayer's don't end up being in 2-way evictions. :wink:

OK...you seem to respect lisa for this.

But, say i am wrong about siavash having honourable intentions with not nominating...and he DID do it to get a 3 way AND look the good guy...is that not also playing an absolutely brilliant game? Especially so close to the final?

Endearing himself to viewers, AND getting rid of an opponent in the competition?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by VickyJ
Siavash asked Marcus who he voted for, it was Sophie and David. Sophie told him she was voting Marcus and David,
Siavash said he could not ask Rodrigo, as he wouldnt say, sophie said, Oh he will be voting Marcus and David...

Siavash knew Lisa, Charlie and David would be voting For him
and Marcus, so lets add these up...

Marcus 5

Siavash 3

David 3

Sophie 1

So, in his mind, if he had voted for David it would have put up just Marcus and David, which is what he said, and he would not have been up...he could not vote for himself with his second vote, so he was trying to get 3 up in the mix, which included himself. He was wrong because Rodrigo voted him and Marcus, but he had no reason to think Sophie would of got Rods nominations wrong...they are very close.

A bit complicated I know...but I believe this is what he meant, hopefully you understand it...

I'm so glad someone has done this post.

He also said that he was prepared to take the risk of David NOT being up and it being a head to head between himself and Marcus, he just wanted to be up himself anyway so that the public could decide whether he deserves a place in the final week or not. Like he said, no free rides.

I missed that bit...was too busy typing furiously so that i didnt forget my line of logic, or what was said/who nommed who etc...its easily done for me...

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
I'm so glad someone has done this post.

He also said that he was prepared to take the risk of David NOT being up and it being a head to head between himself and Marcus, he just wanted to be up himself anyway so that the public could decide whether he deserves a place in the final week or not. Like he said, no free rides.
But he was repulsed by the idea of asking people to nom him, and ENSURE a 2-way Marcus vs Siavash eviction. He told Charlie he didn't want this scenario. The question arises ... why not?

He only seems happy if it's likely that David is in the mix. And by Vicky's post based on Siavash's plans, that means 3 noms for the pair of them.

Marcus vs Siavash, in his mind, was only a slight risk. But again, why not ensure a 2-way?

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
But, say i am wrong about siavash having honourable intentions with not nominating...and he DID do it to get a 3 way AND look the good guy...is that not also playing an absolutely brilliant game? Especially so close to the final?

Endearing himself to viewers, AND getting rid of an opponent in the competition?
I can't believe he has honourable intentions because if he did, he'd ask everyone to nom him and ensure a 2-way eviction. His whole plan seems to hinge on David being in the mix (most likely, in his mind). The 2-way eviction scenario repulsed him.

But I agree it is excellent gameplay, in theory, although it hasn't really panned out too well in the end, for him, as it is a 2-way eviction ...

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
I'm so glad someone has done this post.

He also said that he was prepared to take the risk of David NOT being up and it being a head to head between himself and Marcus, he just wanted to be up himself anyway so that the public could decide whether he deserves a place in the final week or not. Like he said, no free rides.
But he was repulsed by the idea of asking people to nom him, and ENSURE a 2-way Marcus vs Siavash eviction. He told Charlie he didn't want this scenario. The question arises ... why not?

He only seems happy if it's likely that David is in the mix. And by Vicky's post based on Siavash's plans, that means 3 noms for the pair of them.

Marcus vs Siavash, in his mind, was only a slight risk. But again, why not ensure a 2-way?

That is the one thing I did agree with Charlie about, why did he not just ask everyone to nominate him? I don't have the answer to that one.

My point is that Siavash was battling with the decision on whether to nominate or not, as has been mentioned before, he thought that David already had 3 nominations, so he could have just nominated and taken himself out of the eviction as far as he knew, by nominating David (he didn't know that Rodrigo had stabbed him in the back and nommed him.)

So if he had wanted to avoid eviction he would have simply nommed David but he didn't because he wanted to be up. He said in the diary room that he was willing to take the risk of it being JUST him and Marcus in a head to head, because he would rather go on Friday fair and square, voted out by the public, then go through to the final week on a free pass. So he didn't nominate for the sole reason of getting himself put up, EITHER in a three way or a two way. Of course he would rather it was 3 of them up, anyone would rather that!

[setanta]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
I'm so glad someone has done this post.

He also said that he was prepared to take the risk of David NOT being up and it being a head to head between himself and Marcus, he just wanted to be up himself anyway so that the public could decide whether he deserves a place in the final week or not. Like he said, no free rides.
But he was repulsed by the idea of asking people to nom him, and ENSURE a 2-way Marcus vs Siavash eviction. He told Charlie he didn't want this scenario. The question arises ... why not?

He only seems happy if it's likely that David is in the mix. And by Vicky's post based on Siavash's plans, that means 3 noms for the pair of them.

Marcus vs Siavash, in his mind, was only a slight risk. But again, why not ensure a 2-way?

He didn't want to ensure this 2-way vote cuz there was no value in it, especially since he's not been voting for 2 weeks already and he said that a 3 way vote would have suited him down to the ground. His intentions are fairly obvious- keep looking cool and neutral to the viewers while the rest bicker and fight. So obvious but sure not many can see it here.

[free3]

he thought rod had voted david, no matter what he said in the d/r. that would have made it 3 way , he wanted to no who voted who. asking every1 but rods wouldnt tell. think about it if you wanted to be up for eviction would you try to figure out who else was up? how many were up? noooooooooo ,it wouldnt matter to you if you really just wanted to be up. its simple.

[santaa]

Im loosing the will to live. I need to get a life or some sleep or something

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ
But, say i am wrong about siavash having honourable intentions with not nominating...and he DID do it to get a 3 way AND look the good guy...is that not also playing an absolutely brilliant game? Especially so close to the final?

Endearing himself to viewers, AND getting rid of an opponent in the competition?
I can't believe he has honourable intentions because if he did, he'd ask everyone to nom him and ensure a 2-way eviction. His whole plan seems to hinge on David being in the mix (most likely, in his mind). The 2-way eviction scenario repulsed him.

But I agree it is excellent gameplay, in theory, although it hasn't really panned out too well in the end, for him, as it is a 2-way eviction ...

IF this comment is true...then why did he not nominate david then...based on his views that this would ensure a marcus V david eviction?

If he is indeed terrified of a 2 way with marcus, surely the best way to overcome that would be to make sure he isnt up...since he said he KNEW there was a chance that rod had not voted those two and it may well be him and marcus up if he didnt nominate?

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ
But, say i am wrong about siavash having honourable intentions with not nominating...and he DID do it to get a 3 way AND look the good guy...is that not also playing an absolutely brilliant game? Especially so close to the final?

Endearing himself to viewers, AND getting rid of an opponent in the competition?
I can't believe he has honourable intentions because if he did, he'd ask everyone to nom him and ensure a 2-way eviction. His whole plan seems to hinge on David being in the mix (most likely, in his mind). The 2-way eviction scenario repulsed him.

But I agree it is excellent gameplay, in theory, although it hasn't really panned out too well in the end, for him, as it is a 2-way eviction ...

IF this comment is true...then why did he not nominate david then...based on his views that this would ensure a marcus V david eviction?

If he is indeed terrified of a 2 way with marcus, surely the best way to overcome that would be to make sure he isnt up...since he said he KNEW there was a chance that rod had not voted those two and it may well be him and marcus up if he didnt nominate? I honestly think siavsh wasnt being galant at all in what he did, he was wanting david up so he had a better chance of staying, but he miscalculated rod nomming david when he didnt.
He listened to sophie saying rod would vote david & marcus
Instead of nominating david and ensuring david was up.
And charlie was spot on when he said why if you wanted to go up why didnt you ask people to nom you??
Why indeed charlie :wink:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
I honestly think siavsh wasnt being galant at all in what he did, he was wanting david up so he had a better chance of staying, but he miscalculated rod nomming david when he didnt.
He listened to sophie saying rod would vote david & marcus
Instead of nominating david and ensuring david was up.
And charlie was spot on when he said why if you wanted to go up why didnt you ask people to nom you??
Why indeed charlie :wink:

He was wanting david up so he had a better chance of staying...

Again, he could of had a 100% chance of staying, had he just chosen to nominate David, instead of not nominating...

This is of course going on the nominations he believed happened, in reality, his vote wouldnt have made a difference at all.

Which is part of the reason i dont get why people are kicking off...whatever he chose to do would no way influence the vote anyway :shrug:

Personally, I feel it is marcus fans trying to make siavash look bad so marcus has more chance of staying...since to be honest, we will never know EXACTLY what siavash's plan was...

I dont care who stays out of the two now, ever since marcus' slagging off of his 'mate' and his cocky comments.

[AhmedFan2004]

Erm but Vicky, if he nommed David, that would go against all of his 'I want to be up', 'No Free Rides', 'Anti-Scheming' ethos he's been promoting. He cannot do this, or else he contradicts himself and looks awful, much worse than tonight's HLs.

He has to look good, whatever he decides. Which is logical in one sense, but then he is scheming, being deceptive, trying to fix things, etc.

He can't nom David on purpose to ensure David vs Marcus, as then he contradicts everything he's been claiming for ages. And it would look very blunt on TV ... his motives of winning. I know others are schemers, but they're less blunt and obey the rules and play the game. So it's pretty legit really.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ
IF this comment is true...then why did he not nominate david then...based on his views that this would ensure a marcus V david eviction?
As it was banged on about 1000 times on the HL show; to play 'Mr Nice Guy' and win the show. This was the main point of the HL show, lol.

He's gotta be the hero ... just as long as David is in the mix, funnily enough. :wink:

[setanta]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Erm but Vicky, if he nommed David, that would go against all of his 'I want to be up', 'No Free Rides', 'Anti-Scheming' ethos he's been promoting. He cannot do this, or else he contradicts himself and looks awful, much worse than tonight's HLs.

He has to look good, whatever he decides. Which is logical in one sense, but then he is scheming, being deceptive, trying to fix things, etc.

He can't nom David on purpose to ensure David vs Marcus, as then he contradicts everything he's been claiming for ages. And it would look very blunt on TV ... his motives of winning. I know others are schemers, but they're less blunt and obey the rules and play the game. So it's pretty legit really.

Well said Ahmed.

[Colbert-Bump]

I like Siavash but his whole nomination routine is utter madness and can't be defended. We could have got rid of the likes of Lisa and David weeks ago but he mucked it up big-time.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Colbert-Bump
I like Siavash but his whole nomination routine is utter madness and can't be defended. We could have got rid of the likes of Lisa and David weeks ago but he mucked it up big-time.

Actually, the only time lisa would of been up, was when bb brought the newbies in and gave them that ridiculous task. Ensuring either way that lisa would not face eviction. :spin2:

[Colbert-Bump]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Colbert-Bump
I like Siavash but his whole nomination routine is utter madness and can't be defended. We could have got rid of the likes of Lisa and David weeks ago but he mucked it up big-time.

Actually, the only time lisa would of been up, was when bb brought the newbies in and gave them that ridiculous task. Ensuring either way that lisa would not face eviction. :spin2:

I meant before that when he voted for Karly or maybe it was Angel instead of Lisa.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by VickyJ

Actually, the only time lisa would of been up, was when bb brought the newbies in and gave them that ridiculous task. Ensuring either way that lisa would not face eviction. :spin2:
The week Karly went, Siavash nommed Noirin and Karly. If he nommed Noirin and Lisa instead, Lisa was up instead of Karly. And evicted ...

So he blew it all the way back then. :rolleyes:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ

Actually, the only time lisa would of been up, was when bb brought the newbies in and gave them that ridiculous task. Ensuring either way that lisa would not face eviction. :spin2:
The week Karly went, Siavash nommed Noirin and Karly. If he nommed Noirin and Lisa instead, Lisa was up instead of Karly. And evicted ...

So he blew it all the way back then. :rolleyes:

Sorry...am i hearing right...he is now being slated FOR nominating as normal but failing to nominate the right people?!

[Colbert-Bump]

Yes he is.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ

Actually, the only time lisa would of been up, was when bb brought the newbies in and gave them that ridiculous task. Ensuring either way that lisa would not face eviction. :spin2:
The week Karly went, Siavash nommed Noirin and Karly. If he nommed Noirin and Lisa instead, Lisa was up instead of Karly. And evicted ...

So he blew it all the way back then. :rolleyes:

You really are nit picking now!

He gets slated for not nominating, now people are ripping apart all the nominations he made in the past, which, because they weren't part of a blatant block vote like Lisa and her cronies, meant that Lisa hasn't been up for eviction?

I get that people don't like the guy, and fair enough, I would never sit here and say he's mister perfect, but this is getting ridiculous now.

[Vicky.]

How pathetic then :rolleyes:

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by VickyJ

Actually, the only time lisa would of been up, was when bb brought the newbies in and gave them that ridiculous task. Ensuring either way that lisa would not face eviction. :spin2:
The week Karly went, Siavash nommed Noirin and Karly. If he nommed Noirin and Lisa instead, Lisa was up instead of Karly. And evicted ...

So he blew it all the way back then. :rolleyes:

Sorry...am i hearing right...he is now being slated FOR nominating as normal but failing to nominate the right people?!

I just basically said the exact same thing.

This is just getting stupid now.

I really hope he stays on Friday to shut some of these people up.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico

I get that people don't like the guy, and fair enough, I would never sit here and say he's mister perfect, but this is getting ridiculous now.
I'm not slating him, I'm correcting VickyJ.

I'm obviously happy he didn't nominate Lisa - I support Lisa.

[Colbert-Bump]

Let's calm down peeps, Marcus made the same mistake nominating Freddie & Sophie instead of Lisa...he's just as bad.

[setanta]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
I just basically said the exact same thing.

This is just getting stupid now.

I really hope he stays on Friday to shut some of these people up.

I'd get your gladrags out now darling and get ready to be at Elstree Studios for Friday night cuz Mr.Potato Head is getting the bums rush.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Colbert-Bump
Let's calm down peeps, Marcus made the same mistake nominating Freddie & Sophie instead of Lisa...he's just as bad.

Exactly! Why people are jumping on the bandwagon with Siavash over petty things like this now is beyond me, and it's pathetic.

We get that you don't like him but this is just becoming a desperate ploy to try and sway people's votes now imo.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico

I get that people don't like the guy, and fair enough, I would never sit here and say he's mister perfect, but this is getting ridiculous now.
I'm not slating him, I'm correcting VickyJ.

I'm obviously happy he didn't nominate Lisa - I support Lisa.

You are not correcting, you are nitpicking. There is a difference.

You could say that every housemate failed to nominate the correct person at some point :rolleyes:

What I MEANT was, as if it wasnt obvious...that the only week lisa RECIEVED enough nominations to be up, was during the newbies task.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
I just basically said the exact same thing.

This is just getting stupid now.

I really hope he stays on Friday to shut some of these people up.

I'd get your gladrags out now darling and get ready to be at Elstree Studios for Friday night cuz Mr.Potato Head is getting the bums rush.

I'm not counting my chickens either way tbh. I think it very easily swing either way this week.

I will take great pleasure in laughing at the more ardent Siavash slaters though if he stays. :wink:

[Colbert-Bump]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Colbert-Bump
Let's calm down peeps, Marcus made the same mistake nominating Freddie & Sophie instead of Lisa...he's just as bad.

Exactly! Why people are jumping on the bandwagon with Siavash over petty things like this now is beyond me, and it's pathetic.

We get that you don't like him but this is just becoming a desperate ploy to try and sway people's votes now imo.

He was my favourite until Marcus started growing on me. I've already told you if he stays I'll vote for him to win...Jesus Christ.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Colbert-Bump
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Colbert-Bump
Let's calm down peeps, Marcus made the same mistake nominating Freddie & Sophie instead of Lisa...he's just as bad.

Exactly! Why people are jumping on the bandwagon with Siavash over petty things like this now is beyond me, and it's pathetic.

We get that you don't like him but this is just becoming a desperate ploy to try and sway people's votes now imo.

He was my favourite until Marcus started growing on me. I've already told you if he stays I'll vote for him to win...Jesus Christ.

That last line wasn't actually aimed at you btw. More at the people who keep making the same repetitive posts, dragging up stupid things like past nominations which have nothing to do with anything.

[setanta]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
I just basically said the exact same thing.

This is just getting stupid now.

I really hope he stays on Friday to shut some of these people up.

I'd get your gladrags out now darling and get ready to be at Elstree Studios for Friday night cuz Mr.Potato Head is getting the bums rush.

I'm not counting my chickens either way tbh. I think it very easily swing either way this week.

I will take great pleasure in laughing at the more ardent Siavash slaters though if he stays. :wink:

That's fair enough but I wouldn't be surprised if he's out the door and you know that I think he's a bit of a tit anyway, but sure they all are at this stage. I just hate his pretence.... playing the humble, honourable card all the time.... me arse lol. sorry.

I know you like him but I just can't see what you see. I'm attracted to women, maybe that's the problem. Oh that was a cheap shot.:tongue:

He's not an ar$ehole, but he's not all that either.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by setanta

That's fair enough but I wouldn't be surprised if he's out the door and you know that I think he's a bit of a tit anyway, but sure they all are at this stage. I just hate his pretence.... playing the humble, honourable card all the time.... me arse lol. sorry.

I know you like him but I just can't see what you see. I'm attracted to women, maybe that's the problem. Oh that was a cheap shot.:tongue:

He's not an ar$ehole, but he's not all that either.

And I respect your opinion. And yes they all have game plans and probably none of them are as nice as they make out, I don't care what they say, they are all in it to win it.

Just enough of the Potato Head comments! :laugh:

[Colbert-Bump]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
That last line wasn't actually aimed at you btw. More at the people who keep making the same repetitive posts, dragging up stupid things like past nominations which have nothing to do with anything.

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[setanta]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by setanta

That's fair enough but I wouldn't be surprised if he's out the door and you know that I think he's a bit of a tit anyway, but sure they all are at this stage. I just hate his pretence.... playing the humble, honourable card all the time.... me arse lol. sorry.

I know you like him but I just can't see what you see. I'm attracted to women, maybe that's the problem. Oh that was a cheap shot.:tongue:

He's not an ar$ehole, but he's not all that either.

And I respect your opinion. And yes they all have game plans and probably none of them are as nice as they make out, I don't care what they say, they are all in it to win it.

Just enough of the Potato Head comments! :laugh:

I can't help myself though..... I have that image fixed in my head, especially after her removed one eyebrow, just like Potato Head does in the films. Sorry, I can't shake it out of my head!

[cheapbbfan]

Disgusted. Could he have been more obvious about his "gameplan" in the diary room counting up votes?

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by cheapbbfan
Disgusted. Could he have been more obvious about his "gameplan" in the diary room counting up votes?
I was surprised he bluntly asked Marcus who he nominated, before heading into the DR. Why on earth did he do that? Makes it SO obvious, ROFL ...

[Colbert-Bump]

Originally posted by cheapbbfan
Disgusted. Could he have been more obvious about his "gameplan" in the diary room counting up votes?

There's nothing wrong with having a gameplan, I just wish he had a better one.

[cheapbbfan]

Originally posted by Colbert-Bump
Originally posted by cheapbbfan
Disgusted. Could he have been more obvious about his "gameplan" in the diary room counting up votes?

There's nothing wrong with having a gameplan, I just wish he had a better one. no nothing wrong as they are all in there to win someone money but Siavash was so blatantly obvious about his while trying to come across as this great guy without one all season

[UglyBoringMarcus]

vote the minger out - see 'evict minger' post