Charlie's motivation for attacking Siavash

[flemin]

IMO, he thinks if he argues with the perceived favourite, it will make them look bad and get them evicted. He did it with Freddie successfully (in his mind) and is now trying it on with Siavash.

[Sir_Diary_of_Roomus]

Exactly. So transparent.

[BBmassive]

Charlie and Rod and Dvid outed Siavash for the lier he is

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

He's never liked Siavash, you could see this from the early days

[mrs-big]

Yeah, i agree, but its just making Charlie look even worse!

[sunny]

charlie sees siavash as the bigest competition.

[pixee]

I don't even think it was as calculated as that, i think it was just instinctive "I could be up and it's his fault" i think when he goes on like that is when he isn't thinking about how he will be percieved, hence the wierd moment where he suddenly started singing and dancing straight afterwords like a prize mincer it was like back into vote winning mode

[Chuckyegg]

he kicked off very low and below the belt as soon as siavash reminded him of the Bea incident.

[Jordan.]

Hes a big FAKE its so obvious it makes me vommit! :yuk:

[flemin]

Originally posted by pixee
I don't even think it was as calculated as that, i think it was just instinctive "I could be up and it's his fault" i think when he goes on like that is when he isn't thinking about how he will be percieved, hence the wierd moment where he suddenly started singing and dancing straight afterwords like a prize mincer it was like back into vote winning mode
I don't think it is particularly calculated. I think it's simply that he thinks 'well it worked with Freddie so I'll do the same with Siavash'.
The first instance was motivated by jealousy after the newbies said Freddie was the fave. In his mind, he probably thinks the argument is what got him evicted and is now doing the same to eliminate Siavash.

[jet]

Charlie has balls, and he tells it like it is. I don't think it's planned, he just goes off when he gets riled up, like Rodders.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by flemin
IMO, he thinks if he argues with the perceived favourite, it will make them look bad and get them evicted. He did it with Freddie successfully and is now trying it on with Siavash.

1. Because he perceives Siavash as his biggest threat and is trying to make him look bad.

2. Because he is trying to do a Craig Phillips from BB1 - stand up and 'expose' the 'gameplayer'- and make himself popular in the process.

3. Having a tantrum - because he is a deperate wannabe who was scared Siavash's actions may have put him up for eviction!

[VashToWin]

Good thread but no need for it. Siavash outed him tonight and he shut up while thinking what to say back.

[NolasGirl]

Originally posted by Chuckyegg
he kicked off very low and below the belt as soon as siavash reminded him of the Bea incident.

I didn't get the background to Siavash's accusation. What conversation was he referring to?

[pixee]

Originally posted by flemin
Originally posted by pixee
I don't even think it was as calculated as that, i think it was just instinctive "I could be up and it's his fault" i think when he goes on like that is when he isn't thinking about how he will be percieved, hence the wierd moment where he suddenly started singing and dancing straight afterwords like a prize mincer it was like back into vote winning mode
I don't think it is particularly calculated. I think it's simply that he thinks 'well it worked with Freddie so I'll do the same with Siavash'.
The first instance was motivated by jealousy after the newbies said Freddie was the fave. In his mind, he probably thinks the argument is what got him evicted and is now doing the same to eliminate Siavash.

Good point it did work for him with Freddie at least in his eyes

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by jet
Charlie has balls, and he tells it like it is. I don't think it's planned, he just goes off when he gets riled up, like Rodders. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[flemin]

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Originally posted by flemin
IMO, he thinks if he argues with the perceived favourite, it will make them look bad and get them evicted. He did it with Freddie successfully and is now trying it on with Siavash.
2. Because he is trying to do a Craig Phillips from BB1 - stand up and 'expose' the 'gameplayer'- and make himself popular in the process.

Good point, never thought of that. Charlie does seem to be trying to be a mix of all past BB winners.

[santaa]

Charlie was huffy/angry because he got a a nomination result of Siavash. He is immature. Hes not totally confident of not being up.

[Rob!]

Originally posted by pixee
I don't even think it was as calculated as that, i think it was just instinctive "I could be up and it's his fault" i think when he goes on like that is when he isn't thinking about how he will be percieved, hence the wierd moment where he suddenly started singing and dancing straight afterwords like a prize mincer it was like back into vote winning mode

Exactly.
I would imagine that when you have a row in the Big Brother house, no matter how angry you are with that person, you must be thinking about how it's going to be put across to the public at the back of your mind, Roddy has shown it, Marcus has shown it, Charlie has shown it, Siavash has shown it - and if you think your in the right and the public will be behind you, you'll do it 10x more when the next one comes along.
Bea was convinced that the public loved her after both Norin and Freddy left after a row with her, and Charlie is clearly thinking along the same lines. I was astounded when he practically boasted to Freddy during an argument that he was "having a row with the favourite."

[MaratSafinForever]

charlie is right you donkey, siavash is not nominating what do you expect you idiot

[luminoussun]

Charlie is playing the biggest game plan in the house.
But he is starting to crack and it will ruin his chances thank god

[millora]

Originally posted by flemin
IMO, he thinks if he argues with the perceived favourite, it will make them look bad and get them evicted. He did it with Freddie successfully (in his mind) and is now trying it on with Siavash.


charlie and therefore rodrigo are motivated by

Fear Greed Jealousy ignorance and plain stupidity
so much more i want to say but so so so angry tonight

:mad:

[Ramsay]

Rodrigo is Charlies bitch
had to be said

[millora]

Originally posted by jet
Charlie has balls, and he tells it like it is. I don't think it's planned, he just goes off when he gets riled up, like Rodders.


oh grow up and smell the coffe mate

[boomoo]

Originally posted by flemin
Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Originally posted by flemin
IMO, he thinks if he argues with the perceived favourite, it will make them look bad and get them evicted. He did it with Freddie successfully and is now trying it on with Siavash.
2. Because he is trying to do a Craig Phillips from BB1 - stand up and 'expose' the 'gameplayer'- and make himself popular in the process.

Good point, never thought of that. Charlie does seem to be trying to be a mix of all past BB winners.

He tries to imitate Brian Belo with his constant saying I dont know big words when he so obviously does. How come he managed to get on with Bea but would not tolerate Freddie?
He just wants to make sure no one nominates him.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by millora
[quote]Originally posted by jet
Charlie has balls, and he tells it like it is. I don't think it's planned, he just goes off when he gets riled up, like Rodders.


You are obviously not very tuned-in to modes of communication such as body language and facial expressions - if you think Charlie 'tells it like it is'!

You must be watching with blinkers on - or simply choosing to ignore all his two-faced bitching!

He is as false as it gets!

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Charlie and Rod and Dvid outed Siavash for the lier he is

for a liar siavash was incredibly honest dont ya think?he sat at the table and said,i feel bad not telling rodders so he told him,and then rodders went off on one..he could have kept it to himself.. once those to banshees rodney and charlie were in full force,he tried to explain things clearly without getting personal,something which charlie was unable to do..

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by BBmassive
Charlie and Rod and Dvid outed Siavash for the lier he is

for a liar siavash was incredibly honest dont ya think?he sat at the table and said,i feel bad not telling rodders so he told him,and then rodders went off on one..he could have kept it to himself.. once those to banshees rodney and charlie were in full force,he tried to explain things clearly without getting personal,something which charlie was unable to do..
Very very honest for a liar...

Though apparently it is not ok to change your mind now...he said he would nominate before he went into the DR...Im taking it noone on here has ever had a change of heart at the last minute about anything before :rolleyes:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Originally posted by jet
Charlie has balls, and he tells it like it is. I don't think it's planned, he just goes off when he gets riled up, like Rodders.


You are obviously not very tuned-in to modes of communication such as body language and facial expressions - if you think Charlie 'tells it like it is'!

You must be watching with blinkers on - or simply choosing to ignore all his two-faced bitching!

He is as false as it gets!

Totally agree with this comment.

Did I edit this right? the quotes were all wrong...

[MrGaryy]

but what is there to make him think Siavash is favourite.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by jet
Charlie has balls, and he tells it like it is. I don't think it's planned, he just goes off when he gets riled up, like Rodders.
The forum is upset that he exposed Siavash just like he exposed Freddie, and that he reminded the public of his 'GF Cheating' and 'Backstabbing Best Mate' issues, 3-4 days before eviction.

So the forum are moaning and pointing the finger at Charlie, and like last time with Freddie, deluding themselves that he looked bad. :whistle:

I wonder what all the general public and chavs think ehh? All they'll think is "Well done Charlie boy for exposing that fake cheating backstabbing Siavash! How dare he cheat on his GF and scheme like that"

And deep down, the forum know it. You can sense the bitterness in their posts. And they are bitter that Lisa has controlled this show and noms from Day 1. Their heroes are falling 1 by 1.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by flemin
IMO, he thinks if he argues with the perceived favourite, it will make them look bad and get them evicted. He did it with Freddie successfully (in his mind) and is now trying it on with Siavash.
I agree with this, and he'd doing it well. He exposed Freddie as the paranoid over-analysing schemer, and did the same to Vash + Reminding the public of 'Cheating on GF' and 'Backstabbing best Mate'.

He came out great tonight, just like last time. The forum are just upset because Charlie and Lisa are owning the show, to their dismay.

They've controlled noms, and are knocking ou forum faves 1 by 1.

Whoever goes on Fri, it's another victory. And the forum know that the general public and chavs are well behind Charlie, the 'good lovely lad'.

Bitterness in the forum, so evident. :whistle:

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by flemin
IMO, he thinks if he argues with the perceived favourite, it will make them look bad and get them evicted. He did it with Freddie successfully (in his mind) and is now trying it on with Siavash.
I agree with this, and he'd doing it well. He exposed Freddie as the paranoid over-analysing schemer, and did the same to Vash + Reminding the public of 'Cheating on GF' and 'Backstabbing best Mate'.

He came out great tonight, just like last time. The forum are just upset because Charlie and Lisa are owning the show, to their dismay.

They've controlled noms, and are knocking ou forum faves 1 by 1.

Whoever goes on Fri, it's another victory. And the forum know that the general public and chavs are well behind Charlie, the 'good lovely lad'.

Bitterness in the forum, so evident. :whistle:
you know brother,some of your posts wreak of troll like attributes,but ill do my best to rise above it..

first off,im pretty sure charlie had said he had a bf before he entered the house?before getting his lips all over freddie/angel and now rodney..

secondly,perhaps freddie was a little over analytical,but hes hardly the only one to do so,marcus/lisa/charlie/bea/siavash/noirin all had their eye on the game,always speaking about cliques and bitching at any given opportunity,its part and parcel of being on this show to an extent..

i for one am not bitter,had charlie actually discussed things as apposed to the purile behavior we saw tonighti would've had less of an issue with the way things worked out..

all that happened was siavash spoke to rodney as he didnt want to keep it from him,and rodders took it upon him self to **** stir,so when siavash is on the defencive and charlie felt the need to ambush siavash then thats possibly why some including me,find charlie's actions alittle distasteful..

furthermore charlie was not right,watch the HL show again and you would have heard the narrator say over the course of this series,SEVERAL housemates have refused to nominate.. yet only siavash was singled out,and thats before charlie got personal..

so its not so much about bitterness,its more so about treating each housemate with respect,nothing more,nothing less..