*TiBB Forum Upgrade* Help us beta test!

[Mark]

Hi all,

After recent events and general desire for the forum to be upgraded, James and I have decided to upgrade the forum to vBulletin software. We have purchased it (it's not free) as well as purchasing some additional extra's (which I'll explain in a minute) and are currently spending on time testing it and familiarising ourselves with it.

The good news is that all posts/threads/u2u's and all that stuff is transferable over to the new software, and is currently in transition at the moment. We think most of the attachments should make it, but some might not make the cut. We will update you more on that nearer the time.

A lot of you have probably used VBUlletin on other forums, it's by far the most advanced and most secure forum software available, and there loads of new options will be available in your Control Panel. We are moving to VBulletin as part of TiBBs expansion into just not a Big Brother based website. This transition for the forum should be fairly straight forward, but for the website may be a few months away - the main reason being it's only James and I working on things, and we have lives to lead outside TiBB!

As I mentioned we are currently in the process of shifting all the data into the new database. There's a bit of tweaking that needs to make place to make sure all information from the current forum is compatible with the new forum, and it shouldn't take us more than a few days from now until that is complete. We are then going to have a 1 week beta-test period of the new forum, which serves a few purposes.

i) Moderators can get used to the new system in place to moderate the boards. Mods now have a joint control panel which makes everything a LOT easier than them being spammed with U2U's every new report ;)
ii) Allows James and I to add all the modifications that were on our old board, to the new board
iii) Allows a few people to test everything out, try all the new options and give the board a good test to make sure everything is ready to go live.

I know the demand to beta-test the new board is going to be heavy, and there's no real easy way to select people without being biased so I'm going to do it by random as it's the only fair way. I have selected a number between 1 and 1000 (only James and I know it), and you can U2U me your guess. The nearest 6 people will then be given a username/password (when we've set it up), and you get test away. Please only U2U if you are interested in trying out all the new features, and are willing to give us your opinions on what’s good and bad. (Mods need not apply, as they will get access anyway). This is open to people with more than 1000 posts.

A sneak peak of a couple of features the new forum has are:

Blogs!: A much requested feature, blogs are now integrated into your forum account. Blogs can be rated/commented etc and will hopefully play a big part in our transition into TiBB v2.0. Feel free to blog about absolutely anything!

Arcade: Another requested feature, a flash game arcade will be available. There are 8 games available, with built in leader boards and high scores. You can also create tournaments between yourselves and that sort of stuff.

Live update topic: This is something we are excited about, and will be great for topics which have a lot of replies in a short period of time. When you post a reply using the Quick Reply box and press OK, your post will appear in front of you attached to the thread without going via a "Thanks for posting" page. You can then stay on the page, and watch other peoples replies appear right in front of you, without even having to refresh! This saves you having to navigate around the forum and then back to the last post in the thread to see if there have been any replies.

Social Groups: We still aren't sure how we want these to work, and hopefully the beta-test will give us a better idea, but Social Groups are new areas of the forum (similar to Sub Forums), but are highly customisable for group creators. Each group has its own discussion board, and will have a creator. The creator can message all people in the group; have a group icon and that sort of stuff. You can only see posts from that social group if you join it. To avoid people wanting to be the first to create social groups, if you created the original topic on current TiBB, you have first choice to be in charge of the group. I haven't had much time to play around with them yet, so hopefully some of you can in the beta.


So in the meantime, please use this topic to ask questions, as well as give suggestions into what features you want on the new board, and I'll let you know if we can add them. If you are interested in helping to beta-test, just U2U me a number between 1 and 1000 ;)

We are also looking for someone to help us out with some graphics for the forum. If you are interested, just drop me a U2U with a link to some of your work and I'll get you setup with beta access also.

I think that's all for now... feel free to ask away!

Mark

[Novo]

Great news Mark

:dance:

vBulletin forums are the best Happy to here about the new features as well

[King Gizzard]

That sounds awesome!

[Fom]

Arcade!? Yes! I am so coming on to TiBB more often now :dance:

[King Gizzard]

you should get a snake game for your site, i use this www.neave.com/game/snake when im bored lol.

[Zac]

Cool. Very cooool.

[Vicky.]

Sounds good :thumbs:

[Mark]

you should get a snake game for your site, i use this www.neave.com/game/snake when im bored lol.



Snake is one of the 8 games in the arcade, yeah :thumbs:

[MrGaryy]

the new features sound awesome!

[Fom]

you should get a snake game for your site, i use this www.neave.com/game/snake when im bored lol.



Snake is one of the 8 games, yeah :thumbs:

Oh poo... There go my studies...

[King Gizzard]

Nathan likes this.

[\PJ/]

Can't wait!:hello: but now i must go to bed..

[Jayson]

Will the layout change much?

I'm liking the sound of the new features :blush:

[Scarlett.]

VBULLETIN!!?!?!??!

AWESOME!!!!!!! :dance:

[Princess]

OMG this all sounds so amazing! Looking forward to it all :hugesmile:

[andyman]

:thumbs:I will slaughter 100 Britney fans for the gods!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Cool cheers for the infromation!

[*mazedsalv**]

Sounds good to me!!:thumbs:

[Harry!]

I dont like it (Me of corse dont like any change) . Will we use are old accounts on it. Why do we need new ones.

[Arneldo]

blog blog blog blog blog. Over a year since I requested them. Hoooray!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I think we keep our accounts, the new accounts are for people who want to try it out for a week and give their feedback?

[Sticks]

The board I am a moderator on here (http://www.bautforum.com/) is also vBulletin so I have some experience.

We have an issue that some words are not allowed in thread titles, like time, and that can be really frustrating.

Also newbies if they post a link in their post have their post go into moderation, where a moderator has to approve it. Something I do quite a bit. This is an anti spam feature, as there is also a cute "find all posts by" feature used when we come across spammers.

They have their posts deleted and are then banned.

Two questions for now

when the transition is done, will we have to reregister?

Will we have to reconfigure avatars, over there they are smaller than here and they are not animated like some are?

[Sticks]

Three more questions

You mention this taking some months, any possible clarrification of time scales

When we are ready for the switch over will the forum be locked down to prevent new posts during the switch over, if so how long do you expect that to be.

On a personal note, a while back when improvements had been done, I discovered some of my stories I had done in the creative writing section gained control codes, (possibly because I composed them in word and then pasted them on to TIBB), is there any danger of that happening again.

[xDramatick]

sounds awesome, blogs<3

[Ramsay]

cant wait:dance::dance::dance:

[bansheewails]

Sounds great, tho I only understood about a third of Marks post! As for Beta-testing, no one is testing me, I KNOW what Soylent Green was you know!

:hugesmile:

[Sticks]

I was told you only ever test anything in Beta test i you back up your entire hard drive every day.

[James]

The board I am a moderator on here (http://www.bautforum.com/) is also vBulletin so I have some experience.

We have an issue that some words are not allowed in thread titles, like time, and that can be really frustrating.

Also newbies if they post a link in their post have their post go into moderation, where a moderator has to approve it. Something I do quite a bit. This is an anti spam feature, as there is also a cute "find all posts by" feature used when we come across spammers.

They have their posts deleted and are then banned.

Two questions for now

when the transition is done, will we have to reregister?

Will we have to reconfigure avatars, over there they are smaller than here and they are not animated like some are?

Re: avatars. Vbulletin avatars are all stored on the server so I think for now we will only import the static non-animated ones for now. We'll decide later whether to allow back animated gifs.

You won't have to re-register, probably just sign into the forum again.

[Twilight]

Sounds cool:hello:

[Iceman]

FOM you got your request with the arcade!

Everything sounds good vbulletin = :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Aslong as the last 25 post thing is there I'll be happy

[Captain.Remy]

Aslong as the last 25 post thing is there I'll be happy

Why don't you use the Today's posts feature ? It's much better !

[Tom]

Will it actually be TiBB or are you launching the new site direction at the same time?

[Jayson]

So long as the layout isn't too different and we are allowed animated avatars then I will be happy.

[andyman]

More ads? I like ads, but i want to see bigger ads!

[Tom]

More ads? I like ads, but i want to see bigger ads!

as long as that bloody oxo one doesnt turn up

[Scarlett.]

Vbulletin is the best forum technology, cant wait for TiBB to be on it

[Brad.]

Ah, I've just seen this, it sounds awesome! Arcade games and live topics are the best two things! :hello::hello::hello::hello:

[Sticks]

Three more questions

You mention this taking some months, any possible clarrification of time scales

When we are ready for the switch over will the forum be locked down to prevent new posts during the switch over, if so how long do you expect that to be.

On a personal note, a while back when improvements had been done, I discovered some of my stories I had done in the creative writing section gained control codes, (possibly because I composed them in word and then pasted them on to TIBB), is there any danger of that happening again.


Just bumping this so the questions don't get left behind.

Also to add, when you are testing, see if you can create a thread with the word time in the subject title. Over on BAUT we can not do that.

[bronaaaa]

YAY.
Sounds while good :)

[MarkWaldorf]

meh

[Shaun]

hot

[Scarlett.]

Social groups will be the best feature ;]

[Jayson]

Will there be awards on the new board?

[Brad.]

Hopefully not Jay, they were just unneccesary IMO

[Sticks]

They were organised by posters rather than a function of the board

This is also slightly off topic


Anyway, whoever is doing Beta testing, should try and create a thread where the word time is in the subject title. On Baut which is VBulletin it will not let you post such a thread.

[Jayson]

If I am one of them I will try it for you Sticks :thumbs:

[Mark]

They were organised by posters rather than a function of the board

This is also slightly off topic


Anyway, whoever is doing Beta testing, should try and create a thread where the word time is in the subject title. On Baut which is VBulletin it will not let you post such a thread.

I just tried and it works.

[Sticks]

Can you tell us at BAUT what the fix is?

[James]

You'll probably have to login again so...

Can you make sure they have your proper email address registered, or know your password.

Accounts with blank emails won't import into VBulletin...

(but they will really because I will enter a new email address for those members).

[HeatherTWx]

How long will it be til TiBBs back up and running?

[Ross]

vBulletin was so 2005..... I'm bored of it.
I'm glad the arcade is there though, I loved that before on vBulletin.

Arcade is my new home.

[Patrick]

Sounds amazing...

Really looking forward to it all...Theres nothing bad..well maybe the fact that you want TiBB To be a not just BB Site.. which Im worried about.. hopefully you dont change it too much in that 'Non BB' direction I`d hate to have alot of members on here who hate BB.

The Arcade will be sweet...Get good games in there :thumbs:

Social Groups will be cool for BB we can create Hate Groups and Fan Clubs n stuff! :hello:

[SiaSiaSia]

this looks amazing :lovedup:

[Scarlett.]

TiBB 2.0 is awesome :dance:

[Jayson]

I'm Beta Testing! :blush:

New forum is awesome.

[Iceman]

Arcade is so addictive!!

I like the new profile features like albums etc..

cant wait for everyone to go onto it!

[Sticks]

Before you post too many times, see what happens if you make a post with a link.

They usually go into a moderation queue if you have not had too many posts.

It is an anti spammer feature

[Iceman]

Before you post too many times, see what happens if you make a post with a link.

They usually go into a moderation queue if you have not had too many posts.

It is an anti spammer feature

will do now.

Any link?

[Iceman]

Links worked fine, showed up immediately, no problem there...

although we do have nearly double our usual post count so that may be something to do with it...

[Scarlett.]

New feature

You can 'befriend' people on the forum and talk on each others profiles :dance:

[Sticks]

Links worked fine, showed up immediately, no problem there...

although we do have nearly double our usual post count so that may be something to do with it...

If you have a number of posts this does not happen, I suspect if you have less than 10 posts, any post with any link goes into moderation.

One of my functions as a moderator on the other board is to find these posts, and if they are legit, approving them. (Only mods can see them)

A lot of times they are from spam bots and we delete the post and issue a permenant ban against the user.

[Jayson]

I want Pong in the arcade :bawling:

[Iceman]

I want Pong in the arcade :bawling:

breakout is just as good!

[Brad.]

Pong is a super game!! :hello:

[MR.K!]

how do i try the beta ?

[Brad.]

You cant. A select few were randomly chosen (about 6 and the mods) and they do the general testing of the new forum and test out the arcade games/other features, etc :thumbs:

[Ross]

yeah favouritism again

[MarkWaldorf]

LOL at those chosen

[Iceman]

Why what did I do?

[Firewire]

Can someone screen shot (if you are allowed)?

[Iceman]

Can someone screen shot (if you are allowed)?

I think Vicky and Jayson have some pics in the dreaded Brotherhood thread.

I tried to upload some earlier but no luck, sorry..

[Scarlett.]

Another cool feature is you can link a big picture to use as your avatar and it is shrunk and then hosted on the site (so then if the original image is taken down, you will have a copy on the forum :3)

[Lauren]

LOL at those chosen

-files nails- .... oh, it's you.

[MarkWaldorf]

LOL at those chosen

-files nails- .... oh, it's you.

dont make me get keisha to attack you.

[Vicky.]

Can someone screen shot (if you are allowed)?


http://i35.tinypic.com/25anu4z.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/1zwem9u.jpg

[Firewire]

Looks good.

[Jayson]

Just learnt how to change custom status on the new forum.

[MarkWaldorf]

ew it looks ****

[Ramsay]

looks MINT!:dance::dance::dance:

[Nicky.]

ew it looks ****

That was my exact reaction!

Might think differently once I'm using it properly... but I'm not liking it so far :sad:

I just want nice TiBB back :sad: Xx

[Scarlett.]

A screenshot of the "Music box" where you can post videos and comment on them :3

http://i36.tinypic.com/30rwft5.jpg

[arista]

ew it looks ****


Yes it does look bland and horrible.

They should have put this back to normal
then had a Sub section for all that bland stuff.

[Novo]

The New forum looks amazing

[Sticks]

Can you embed Youtube clips in normal posts?

[Brad.]

Apparently yes

[Scarlett.]

Can you embed Youtube clips in normal posts?

Yep

Youtube
Google videos
MySpace videos
Justin TV
and Daily Motion videos

[Mark]

The theme hasn't even been deicded yet lol.

That one is just there while we beta test the 'workings' of the forum.

Be calm Arista :hugesmile:

[Jayson]

Right, here's what the new chat-room is like...

It's basically a small section of the forum index, and anyone can just randomly come in and message, or they can just watch the chat without anyone knowing, which although is slightly creepy, is good.

I personally have experienced problems with it, I have to refresh every few seconds to see people's messages, although I'm the only one out of the people who have tried it that has experienced these problems, so I don't think it's anything to worry about right now.

You have different sections of the chat room, and one main room.

One is called "XFactor" which you go in to chat about XFactor with people.

We have requested a section for football, and I'm pretty sure that a Big Brother section of the chat room will be made soon.

It's got a very different feel to the old chat room, which only you can decide is a good thing or a bad thing.

You can also "slap" members in the chat room (/slap, and then the user ID here)

[Scarlett.]

There will probably be a few more rooms in the chatbox in the final version as well :D

[Brad.]

Ah I cant ****ing wait for this switchover now! Bring on Tibb 2.0!

[Scarlett.]

it'll be awesome once it all switches over :D

[Brad.]

Do animated avatars/ animated sigs work on Tibb 2.0?

[Scarlett.]

Animated sigs do I think, I dont think animated avatars do though

[Jayson]

The avatar limit is 300kb, and most animated avatars are over 1000, so currently animated avatars aren't allowed.

The size limit is still 150x160 though.

[Brad.]

Oh, ok, thanks for summing up Jayson :thumbs:

[Jessica.]

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af339/jessicawalsh/Log-inpage.jpg

This is the log-in page!

[Scarlett.]

Here is the Social groups index page (notice Kanye West and Ken West xD)

http://i37.tinypic.com/2yvm32w.jpg

[King Gizzard]

For embed codes and other bb codes, is there a button you press so you don't have to write it out each time? (lazy i hear you say) seen it on a couple of other forums.

[Scarlett.]

yeah, you just press the buttons and the BBcode appears for you

[King Gizzard]

Awesome. :dance:

[Lewis.]

I really hope we can keep the "Todays posts" option :(

[Scarlett.]

I really hope we can keep the "Todays posts" option :(

"New posts" is very similar, it shows you all of the new posts made since you last visited

[Brad.]

Hows the testing going and how long do you think it will be until the switchover is complete?

[Scarlett.]

Not sure when the switchover will happen, the testing is going good and most of the suggestions we have made have become reality :3

[Brad.]

Ah, thats great news, thanks! :hello:

[Sticks]

I really hope we can keep the "Todays posts" option :(

"New posts" is very similar, it shows you all of the new posts made since you last visited

The difference being is if you view a thread it disappears from the list generated by "New posts" which is different to "Today's Posts"

Can that facility be retained, plus the additional ones we had, like "BB Only Posts" and "Not BB posts"

[Scarlett.]

I really hope we can keep the "Todays posts" option :(

"New posts" is very similar, it shows you all of the new posts made since you last visited

The difference being is if you view a thread it disappears from the list generated by "New posts" which is different to "Today's Posts"

Can that facility be retained, plus the additional ones we had, like "BB Only Posts" and "Not BB posts"it only disappears if you leave the site for like 20 minutes :tongue:

[Jessica.]

Is there a search option in the new forum where you can search for posts with key words?

[Scarlett.]

Is there a search option in the new forum where you can search for posts with key words?Yeah, there is :blush:

[Lewis.]

I really want Todays posts. Lmfao. I'm sure a LOT of people will.
I also just want the old TiBB :(

[Iceman]

I really want Todays posts. Lmfao. I'm sure a LOT of people will.
I also just want the old TiBB :(

You should hopefully like the new forum, its easily navigated and has loads of new cool features.

[James]

I really hope we can keep the "Todays posts" option :(

"New posts" is very similar, it shows you all of the new posts made since you last visited

The difference being is if you view a thread it disappears from the list generated by "New posts" which is different to "Today's Posts"

Can that facility be retained, plus the additional ones we had, like "BB Only Posts" and "Not BB posts"it only disappears if you leave the site for like 20 minutes :tongue:

Today's Posts is in the 'Quick Links' menu. :thumbs:

[MR.K!]

I hate to put a downer on this but from what i can see the new website looks like a load of bollocks. Why could we have gotten the new version of the current forum !? Its looks a billion times better !!!

http://i34.tinypic.com/72uni9.png

[Novo]

^ Looks plain and boring

[MR.K!]

it is customisable.

[Scarlett.]

^ Looks plain and boring

Yesh!


also, what do you mean by customizable

[Sticks]

XMB has a number of security flaws, hence the migration.

[Sticks]

Today's Posts is in the 'Quick Links' menu. :thumbs:


I have been on BAUT (http://www.bautforum.com/) all this time and never noticed this feature :blush2::shocked:

[Brad.]

You dont need to post links to a website you are a mod on every time you want to post in this thread :thumbs:

[Sticks]

It's another forum that runs vBulletin, and also why I did not take part in Beta Testing. I already know some of the features, plus I have Mod duties there so was not available to help with Beta testing.

[Fom]

Are we going to get User made layouts again? That was such a great step forward, would suck to go backwards now!

[arista]

it is customisable.


What Date does it Start?

[Brad.]

There is no confirmed date for the switchover but it will be pretty soon I would imagine :thumbs:

[Billy]

It's another forum that runs vBulletin, and also why I did not take part in Beta Testing. I already know some of the features, plus I have Mod duties there so was not available to help with Beta testing.

Is that good pay aye?

[Nicky.]

It looks 100 times better than that Mr K!

So many new things to! :bigsmile:

[LemonJam]

Excited!

[LemonJam]

Excited!

[Jessica.]

Is there a date for the switch yet?

[Jessica.]

Is there a date for the switch yet?

[Twilight]

Is there a date for the switch yet?

[Jayson]

I'm thinking it's tonight :conf:

[Ninastar]

Whats the difference???

[Mark]

I'm thinking it's tonight :conf:

Wont be tonight... the posts are all being fully imported tonight though. Maybe that's what you're thinking of ;)

[Patrick]

ew it looks ****

That was my exact reaction!

Might think differently once I'm using it properly... but I'm not liking it so far :sad:

I just want nice TiBB back :sad: Xx


Couldnt agree more

[Patrick]

Animated sigs do I think, I dont think animated avatars do though

Wtf!

Animated Avatars are the best!

Sounds pretty ****ing **** i`ll be in the "Hate the New TiBB" group :thumbs:

[Scarlett.]

Animated sigs do I think, I dont think animated avatars do though

Wtf!

Animated Avatars are the best!

Sounds pretty ****ing s*** i`ll be in the "Hate the New TiBB" group :thumbs:The avatars save to the forum, so there is a limit

The new features make up for losing the animated avatars to be fair though

[Ramsay]

No one should make a Hate the new TIBB club
it looks mint so far
way better then whats here now
and their only tryin to make it better

[Scarlett.]

and lets not forget, safer

[Tom]

Animated sigs do I think, I dont think animated avatars do though

Wtf!

Animated Avatars are the best!

Sounds pretty ****ing s*** i`ll be in the "Hate the New TiBB" group :thumbs:

you'd come across as so ungrateful if you did that. Its a free site, you can't really moan tbh

[Ramsay]

Animated sigs do I think, I dont think animated avatars do though

Wtf!

Animated Avatars are the best!

Sounds pretty ****ing s*** i`ll be in the "Hate the New TiBB" group :thumbs:

you'd come across as so ungrateful if you did that. Its a free site, you can't really moan tbh

yeah i agree

[Vicky.]

Animated sigs do I think, I dont think animated avatars do though

Wtf!

Animated Avatars are the best!

Sounds pretty ****ing s*** i`ll be in the "Hate the New TiBB" group :thumbs:

you'd come across as so ungrateful if you did that. Its a free site, you can't really moan tbh

:thumbs::thumbs:

[Scarlett.]

Animated sigs do I think, I dont think animated avatars do though

Wtf!

Animated Avatars are the best!

Sounds pretty ****ing s*** i`ll be in the "Hate the New TiBB" group :thumbs:

you'd come across as so ungrateful if you did that. Its a free site, you can't really moan tbh

As Sir Aristabot would say;

Damn right
RAF Tom :thumbs:

[Billy]

Animated sigs do I think, I dont think animated avatars do though

Wtf!

Animated Avatars are the best!

Sounds pretty ****ing s*** i`ll be in the "Hate the New TiBB" group :thumbs:


Oh no.
I really hope that doesn't mean you have to leave.

[James]

Tomorrow for the new forum... hopefully... posts / user accounts have been transfered across.

We'll keep the old going one for a few days to smooth over the changeover.

It won't allow animated avatars initially. :S The avatars are stored on this server, so have to check how it would affect the speed of the site.

We'll see what we can do on the user-made layouts, though VB styles are more complicated to create so not sure how possible yet.

It'll be work in progress restoring features we had previously, but there is lots of new stuff. :thumbs:

[Sticks]

So when you are running the two in parallel, how do we switch between the two?

[HeatherTWx]

Is the switchover today?

[Brad.]

James said he was hopeful of it, yes

[Novo]

So we are likely to change tonight then

[Scarlett.]

I hope so :hugesmile:

[Twilight]

I really hope its tonight

[Iceman]

Dont think its tonmight, was just on the new one a while ago and idnt see any new member accounts switched over or posts....

[Scarlett.]

I think we're actually on a tester one Iceman, an there is another...not sure though

[Iceman]

I think we're actually on a tester one Iceman, an there is another...not sure though

Oh yeah I think you're right actually...

does say forumtest in the link, never noticed that before...

(my bad people, it could be tonight):shrug:

[Scarlett.]

I thought our one was the real one too, until yesterday xD

[James]

I'm just sorting out a few things on the new forum and then it will be ready. :thumbs:

[Brad.]

Thanks James :thumbs:

[Jayson]

Good stuff!

[Ninastar]

How long do you think it will take james?

[Brad.]

To be honest i dont think we will get the new forum until midweek/next weekend but it would be nice to get it today

[Harry!]

I hope we have a in-forum party/celebration of some sort when we move.

[Jessica.]

The suspense is killing me! :mad:

[Damaris]

Not sure what to think tbh.

Ill guess ill wait and see.

[Z]

Amazing!! :thumbs::thumbs:

[Novo]

Can we have an update

[Lewis.]

When will we be able to see it?

[Iceman]

Can we have an update

Update:

Still not ready :tongue:

[Novo]

Any news

[Mark]

Hey,

Sorry, I've had a rough couple of days with some things happening in real life and havent had a chance to work on it properly. I'll try and get things up to speed this evening, I know James has been doing a lot on it also.

[InOne]

Hey,

Sorry, I've had a rough couple of days with some things happening in real life and havent had a chance to work on it properly. I'll try and get things up to speed this evening, I know James has been doing a lot on it also.



Take your time man, you don't have to rush. Real life comes first!

[Iceman]

Yeah take as long as you want.......reason being I do like having the highscores on the arcade.....dont want them to go...:joker:

[Harry!]

Slow and steady wins the race.