One thing that has been driving me crazy all day...

[InOne]

What shall I have for tea?

[setanta]

Well judging from your avatar and what you've told me I'd say someones liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

[Ross]

Pork scratchings.

[InOne]

Well judging from your avatar and what you've told me I'd say someones liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

Bundy was not a cannibal petal.

[setanta]

Well judging from your avatar and what you've told me I'd say someones liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

Bundy was not a cannibal petal.

Oh my god, lol. I never said he was and it's worrying that you're still defending him.

[InOne]

Well judging from your avatar and what you've told me I'd say someones liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

Bundy was not a cannibal petal.

Oh my god, lol. I never said he was and it's worrying that you're still defending him.

It's you who keeps bringing up the avatar!!!!

[Harry!]

Its not even a avatar.

[setanta]

Yes, cuz it's funny/weird and an easy thing to joke about.

[InOne]

Yes, cuz it's funny/weird and an easy thing to joke about.


Well true lol but other people have got used to it, so I think you will have to as well :D

[InOne]

Oh and im having Pizza, just so you know. lol

[setanta]

That's cuz half of them don't know who you're publicizing here.

[InOne]

That's cuz half of them don't know who you're publicizing here.


Well their innocent little minds are better off now knowing lol

[setanta]

I just think it's wrong to be associating yourself with a genuine mass murderer.

[InOne]

I just think it's wrong to be associating yourself with a genuine mass murderer.

Well if hardly anyone knows who it is, what does it matter? He could be a poet for all they know.

[setanta]

But I know, and I'm sure there's a few others too. It's just worrying to me that you'd be so attached and attracted to his story.

[Amanda.]

Pork scratchings.

:laugh3:

[InOne]

But I know, and I'm sure there's a few others too. It's just worrying to me that you'd be so attached and attracted to his story.


Well im not a bad person or anything if that's what you are thinking. It's just interesting that is all. Infact he is probably the most interesting man that has walked this planet.

[setanta]

But I know, and I'm sure there's a few others too. It's just worrying to me that you'd be so attached and attracted to his story.


Well im not a bad person or anything if that's what you are thinking. It's just interesting that is all. Infact he is probably the most interesting man that has walked this planet.

You see, that's just plain weird for me to hear something like that coming from you. He's interesting yes, but you've elevated him to something more here which borders on idolatry. I find that a little wrong, especially when I put my mind back to the books I've read and films I've viewed on the subject.

[InOne]

But I know, and I'm sure there's a few others too. It's just worrying to me that you'd be so attached and attracted to his story.


Well im not a bad person or anything if that's what you are thinking. It's just interesting that is all. Infact he is probably the most interesting man that has walked this planet.

You see, that's just plain weird for me to hear something like that coming from you. He's interesting yes, but you've elevated him to something more here which borders on idolatry. I find that a little wrong, especially when I put my mind back to the books I've read and films I've viewed on the subject.

What do you mean by coming from me? I don't idolize him he's just interesting and fits the term the mask of sanity, so I put him on there.

[setanta]

It's more than that though if you decide to show his face and identify yourself with him on a public forum, you know? Do you do it in an attempt to shock or to be outrageous? Can't you see how it could offend?

[InOne]

It's more than that though if you decide to show his face and identify yourself with him on a public forum, you know? Do you do it in an attempt to shock or to be outrageous? Can't you see how it could offend?

Nah, as you can tell im not really an outrageous person. I don't put it up to shock or offend, I have told you why it is there before. As long as only a few people know it's ok. And even if someone else did find out, it's not like they would really be able to take it in anyway.

[setanta]

Well that covers it then. If you don't do it to offend or to be outrageous it's reasonable to assume that you've grown far too attached to the subject, which seems to have compromised your ability to distinguish between good and poor taste.

[InOne]

Well that covers it then. If you don't do it to offend or to be outrageous it's reasonable to assume that you've grown far too attached to the subject which seems to have compromised your ability to distinguish between good and poor taste.

So what does that mean? Ted in himself has almost become mythical, people wonder if such a man actually ever existed. These days, he is just entertainment or curiosity to people.

[setanta]

Not at all. Don't associate that man with entertainment. If you want to display your affinity to the mask of sanity phrase why not do it in a different, less objectionable fashion? Why not have Christian Bale's face in American Psycho or something?

[InOne]

Not at all. Don't associate that man with entertainment. If you want to display your affinity to the mask of sanity phrase why not do it in a different, less objectionable fashion? Why not have Christian Bale's face in American Psycho or something?

Why dress it up? It's real life, some people can accept it some can't. I can post a less scary picture of him if you want? I really don't see what is so bad seen as not alot of people know who it is anyway.

[setanta]

It's nothing to do with less scary.... it's him that's worrying me. If it's just to highlight mask of sanity like you say, why not post a pic of Harold Shipman or Fred West?

[InOne]

It's nothing to do with less scary.... it's him that's worrying me. If it's just to highlight mask of sanity like you say, why not post a pic of Harold Shipman or Fred West?


Because they did not look like movie stars did they? They are not the most photographed Serial Killers are they? Infact, I think the term 'Serial Killer' was first coined to Ted. He just fits the phrase most. Does Bundy particularly disturb you or something?

[setanta]

All serial killers should disturb you; it doesn't matter how they look. Aesthetics shouldn't come into a discussion like this. The man was seriously disturbed and killed women in the most horrific ways imaginable, and I find it strange that you would want to see his image everytime you post on this forum. That's just weird, I'm sorry.

[InOne]

All serial killers should disturb you; it doesn't matter how they look. Aesthetics shouldn't come into a discussion like this. The man was seriously disturbed and killed women in the most horrific ways imaginable, and I find it strange that you would want to see his image everytime you post on this forum. That's just weird, I'm sorry.

Well I must be weird then.

[setanta]

Yes, you must me because it's not normal to be associating yourself with a man such as Ted Bundy, especially on a public forum.

[InOne]

Yes, you must me because it's not normal to be associating yourself with a man such as Ted Bundy, especially on a public forum.


Indeed. Just go back to making jokes about it.

[setanta]

There's honestly nothing really to joke about at this stage. I find it worrying that you like seeing his face..... he murdered women in the most horrible ways imaginable, just like Fred West, and yet you want to display his image alone. It's wrong.

[InOne]

There's honestly nothing really to joke about at this stage. I find it worrying that you like seeing his face..... he murdered women in the most horrible ways imaginable, just like Fred West, and yet you want to display his image alone. It's wrong.


At what stage? It's not like there is anything different, we put tossed opinions back and forth that is it.

[setanta]

It's nothing about opinions though... it's worrying and wrong to be associating yourself with a "person" like Ted Bundy. Your excuses don't hold water because you seem to have a morbid fascination with him alone when the reality is he was a depraved human being who committed unspeakable acts on innocent women. That's something that shouldn't be embraced.

[InOne]

It's nothing about opinions though... it's worrying and wrong to be associating yourself with a "person" like Ted Bundy. Your excuses don't hold water because you seem to have a morbid fascination with him alone when the reality is he was a depraved human being who committed unspeakable acts on innocent women. That's something that shouldn't be embraced.

Im not embracing him, im not fascinated, as I have said before he best fits the mask of sanity. Also as I have said he has become somewhat mythical, he exists in pictures and video, that is it. Were the people who cheered and sang about his death outside really any better?

[setanta]

It's nothing about opinions though... it's worrying and wrong to be associating yourself with a "person" like Ted Bundy. Your excuses don't hold water because you seem to have a morbid fascination with him alone when the reality is he was a depraved human being who committed unspeakable acts on innocent women. That's something that shouldn't be embraced.

Im not embracing him, im not fascinated, as I have said before he best fits the mask of sanity. Also as I have said he has become somewhat mythical, he exists in pictures and video, that is it. Were the people who cheered and sang about his death outside really any better?

Put yourself in the position of the family of Lynette Culver, a 12 year old girl who Bundy raped and murdered, and then tell me if they were wrong to celebrate his death? The man is just as big a monster as Fred West or any other serial killer and yet you choose to highlight him alone. It's wrong.

[InOne]

It's nothing about opinions though... it's worrying and wrong to be associating yourself with a "person" like Ted Bundy. Your excuses don't hold water because you seem to have a morbid fascination with him alone when the reality is he was a depraved human being who committed unspeakable acts on innocent women. That's something that shouldn't be embraced.

Im not embracing him, im not fascinated, as I have said before he best fits the mask of sanity. Also as I have said he has become somewhat mythical, he exists in pictures and video, that is it. Were the people who cheered and sang about his death outside really any better?

Put yourself in the position the family of Lynette Culver, a 12 year old girl who Bundy raped and murdered, and then tell me if they were wrong to celebrate his death? The man is just as big a monster as Fred West or any other serial killer and yet you choose to highlight him alone. It's wrong.

A life for a life is not always right. They could have used Bundy to study and look for the early warning signs. I agree he should have been kept away from society but they could have learnt so much more. He got an easier death than any of his victims, why not actually just get use out of him to prevent more deaths?

[setanta]

He was uncooperative with the law, only mentioning more victims in an attempt to delay his death penalty. He avoided it on numerous occassions by promising to name more victims and reveal their resting places. The guy was a monster.

And you're deflecting now...

[InOne]

He was uncooperative with the law, only mentioning more victims in an attempt to delay his death penalty. He avoided it on numerous occassions by promising to name more victims and reveal their resting places. The guy was a monster.

And you're deflecting now...




I have told you why I am highlighting him. I know what he did towards the end, and he was his own undoing. I can't see how he was ever deemed sane during the trial.

[setanta]

Yes, this mask of sanity rubbish. It's in very poor taste.

[InOne]

Well why did you keep asking me if you knew?

[setanta]

Because it's a ridiculous excuse to highlight one mass murderer in particular over all the rest of them. There's literally no justification in displaying an image of a man who raped, tortured and murdered innocent women, while engaging in the odd bout of necrophilia.

[InOne]

Because it's a ridiculous excuse to highlight one mass murderer in particular over all the rest of them. There's literally no justification in displaying an image of a man who raped, tortured and murdered innocent women, while engaging in the odd bout of necrophilia.


Not an excuse, it fits the term very well. I know what he did, you don't have to keep telling me.

[setanta]

And yet you still choose to highlight him. It's just plain weird and mask of sanity is an excuse..... many other serial killers to select from and yet you continually post his image up. It's slightly disturbing.

[InOne]

And yet you still choose to highlight him. It's just plain weird and mask of sanity is an excuse..... many other serial killers to select from and yet you continually post his image up. It's slightly disturbing.


This is only the second image. It might be disturbing to you, but it's not to me. It's not hurting anyone, it's just there. I find his story the most interesting and him to be an interesting person, that is all.

[setanta]

That's fair enough but it doesn't merit posting his image alone because then you make a connection between him and yourself - it's like you're celebrating his life work. Bizarre and unsettling.

[InOne]

That's fair enough but it doesn't merit posting his image alone because then you make a connection between him and yourself - it's like you're celebrating his life work. Bizarre and unsettling.


It may seem like that, but it's nothing like that. As we have already decided, im weird anyway.

[setanta]

Of course it's in celebration of him because you already said it's not designed to offend or to shock. You're far too interested in his story, that's all. It's not cool or thought provoking; just a little weird and offensive.

[InOne]

Of course it's in celebration of him because you already said it's not designed to offend or to shock. You're far too interested in his story, that's all. It's not cool or thought provoking; just a little weird and offensive.

I am not THAT interested, I just like the story n that. I really don't think we will agree on anything on the matter setanta, we are going in circles.

[setanta]

Yep we are. Just cannot understand how you could be associating yourself with a killer like him. Like the story? Are you mental? Interesting yes, but not enjoyable.

[InOne]

Yep we are. Just cannot understand how you could be associating yourself with a killer like him. Like the story? Are you mental? Interesting yes, but not enjoyable.


I guess you won't understand, not much point in trying really. It is what it is.

[setanta]

Yep we are. Just cannot understand how you could be associating yourself with a killer like him. Like the story? Are you mental? Interesting yes, but not enjoyable.


I guess you won't understand, not much point in trying really. It is what it is.

Yes, it is what it is. You have a morbid fascination with this serial killer. I understand that for sure.

[InOne]

It is not a fascination, we have been through this. I have a picture of him of my avatar, I like the term the mask of sanity, he fits it best IMO that is what it is.

[setanta]

I don't believe that for a second. You said he was the most interesting man on the planet with movie star looks!! It's clear that your fascination is with him and not that term.

[InOne]

They are my opinions, does not mean im fascinated, you are looking for something that is not there. You seem to know alot about him as well anyway.

[setanta]

Yes, the subject of serial killers fascinates me - not just one killer alone- but not to the point where I abandon all good taste and post a picture of him beside all my comments.

And when you say he's the most interesting man ever on the planet and that he had movie star looks it's perfectly clear that you've connected with him and not that term that you like to brandish.

[InOne]

Yes, the subject of serial killers fascinates me - not just one killer alone- but not to the point where I abandon all good taste and post a picture of him beside all my comments.

And when you say he's the most interesting man ever on the planet and that he had movie star looks it's perfectly clear that you've connected with him and not that term that you like to brandish.


Hmmm well just cos I find him interesting does not mean I have connected with him. You are taking this all too seriously...