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Honey
27-06-2002, 09:13 AM
Ever since Spanky was evicted I have made it known that I would like Kate to win, and although a few people have agreed with me on the thread entitled 'Is Kate Jinxed?' I thought I would start another topic with the title 'Kate To Win!', to see just what the general feeling is about this. I do have a feeling that the majority on this site are still rooting for Alex, but inlight of 'Bully-Gate' I wondered if anyone had changed their mind. I feel the same way Oldgit does and that is that the British public ie the voters... do tend to go for the guys over the girls but I do think in this case Kate really does deserve the chance to win Big Brother this year.
She is genuine, kind and tolerent, and just gets on with whatever she is faced with especially when just recently she was left to face yet another grim week on the Poor side, and with the added burden of being disliked intensely by Alex, purely because she chose Spanky over him after initially saying out of all the guys she would chose him to 'get naked' with.... in one of the early games. Alex has never forgiven her for what he sees as a direct rejection, and then to make matters worse took on board Sandy's misguided opinion that Kate was some kind of manipulator. For these reasons he has held it against her ever since and has made her pay for it big time...IMHO Alex has been totally unfair to Kate, she did nothing wrong or to warrant such animosity...it has all been so unecessary...poor Kate!
Kate is fair, understanding, very funny, entertaining, fun loving, daring, brave, and stands up for what she believes in. She has shown nothing but compassion and friendship towards Sophie despite risking a backlash from Jade and her cronies, and has handled every situation thrown at her with grace, enthusiasm and determination. I like the way she respects people and even though very keen on Spencer never over did it to make the their friendship go any further than was comfortable for both of them. I have not seen her bitching about anyone, if she has a grievence she speaks out about it but always with the right attitude, and very often with humour! She has suffered with hayfever for a few days now, and it is also her time of the month. She understanably broke down in tears in the Diary room that day, when she broke her sunnies, with the thought of running out of toothpaste, missing Spencer, and struggling to get through yet another tough week on the Poor side, but she still managed to keep it in once out of the Diary room and never bothered any of the housemates with her woes..apart from in a normal conversation. For all these reasons she really has impressed me alot.
I have not heard her winge in a bad way once, she has her little moans but it is always justified. She just seems to collect herself together, puts a smile on her face and then just gets on with it...good for her!
All in all Kate has shown she is more than a worthy winner. Anyone else agree?

kaphc
27-06-2002, 07:21 PM
Yes!!! Go Kate!!!

Well said, honey!!

bananarama
27-06-2002, 07:55 PM
Yes I think kate would be a deserving winner. Adele could be Alex's downfall making him a gossip lover. Jonny might have left off his clowning for a tad too long and lost support. So Yeh I think Kate is a contender to finish last.:spin2:

LEE
27-06-2002, 08:00 PM
Kate does seem quite nice, but there's nothing about her that stands out, there is no spark. I do quite like her now, but I don't find her particularly interesting. It would be nice if a woman won it this year, and she is definitely the best female left in the house, but I don't think she is enough of a 'character' to win.
:flower:

bananarama
27-06-2002, 08:08 PM
I see your point Lee but this week for me I have found the Alex sparkle to be fading fast and Jonny is unpredictable. The happy clown or the sad clown. Who knows from one week to another.

I think if the divide comes down and there are fewer in numbers that Kate's'playfull personality may break through more....:spin2:

Janette
27-06-2002, 08:20 PM
I've been pleasantly surprised by Kate's attitude over the last 2 weeks.

She's had it tough with Spencer going and Alison going and being stuck in the poor side for a week longer than she should have been, so I can understand the tears when she broke her sunglasses.

I'm glad Tim was there to give her a shoulder to cry on, I'm sure she appreciated it.

She has been very calm under pressure and hasn't bitched about other housemates. I think this stands her in good stead for future weeks, and I'm so glad that the bars are coming down, she may get the chance to really shine now!

I have said in the past that I want Alex to win, and I stand by that, but his continual bitching with Adele and Jade are making him suffer in my eyes, he would do well to get away from those two. If not, then I think my loyalties may very well go with Kate.

vicky
28-06-2002, 10:06 PM
I agree totally honey

Kate is the most genuinely likeable person in the house and everyones preconceptions now seem to be misfounded about her. I would really love it if she could win but think that we will have another male BB winner.

Sticks
29-06-2002, 05:16 AM
Kate has no chance

Her crime

Getting too close to Spencer and being pretty

She will be hated for all time by a vast majority of women out there.....

:devil:

chilledbootz
29-06-2002, 06:43 AM
I don't think so Sticks. Women aren't as shallow as you think. A lot of women including me admire her for the way she's dealt with the bullies in the house and the way she has survived losing two of the people she was closest too. She'll definately get my vote!:elephant:

splodge0
29-06-2002, 07:59 AM
Yep......... A total poppet:love:


:colour::colour::colour::colour::colour::colour::c olour::colour::colour::colour::colour:

Sticks
29-06-2002, 08:46 AM
If a women is pretty, the bullys will come out and claw her, sometimes literally for being too pretty.

Because she rejected Alex, his fans will pay her back

The Spencer fans will hate her for getting too close.

The Green Eyed Monster is very powerful amongst the fair gender.

Unfair, as Kate is 3rd favourite, but that is how life is :bawling:

As for votes, I am still under contract as Cyber Devil's Advocate to Jade, though I am informed that tenure may be coming to an end. :colour: :dance:

Romantic Old Bird
29-06-2002, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by chilledbootz
Women aren't as shallow as you think.

But they can be fickle in the avatar department.

:bawling::bawling::bawling::bawling:

Honey
29-06-2002, 10:25 AM
:devil: Sticks....."DITCH THE BITCH!" :devil:


Unfortunately I am afraid you may be right about the "Green Eyed Monster!" Envy is such a powerful emotion and seems to rear it's ugly head at every turn.
I fear the friendship with Spencer, the rejection of Alex and the fact that Kate is just too pretty, and an all round nice person, but above all 'a GIRL' are all factors in her missing out and why she will almost certainly not win Big Brother...we all seem to be in agreement here, but I am still holding out for her though because above all she so deserves to win. Of course Alex is still favourite to win, so there is that too.
I am just hoping she will not have the bad luck to be up for eviction against Alex or Jonny until the last week at least then she will have more of a chance of making the last three.
Good Luck Kate! :thumbs:

:flower:

Sticks
29-06-2002, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Honey
:devil: Sticks....."DITCH THE BITCH!" :devil:


My contract as Cyber Devil's Advocate to Jade expires whenshe leaves. Until then I am duty bound to honour the contract.

Sorry :blush:

Di2001
29-06-2002, 02:21 PM
I've been pleasantly surprised by Kate's attitude over the last 2 weeks.


I totally agree. I've found mself 'warming' to Kate recently. Liked the way she was there for Sophie in her hour of need these past few days.

I'd like to see Kate stay in the house for a while longer.

:colour::flower::colour::flower::colour::flower:

kaphc
29-06-2002, 05:55 PM
I agree that Kate has become more likeable over the last couple of weeks, but the general public (not us BB fans!!) are slower at picking up on it, judging by a conversation I had at work yesterday.

I hope she shines through in the task tonight and has another good week!

Glitter_babe
29-06-2002, 07:23 PM
I have found the Alex sparkle to be fading fast
I wonder howmany people are regretting voting Spenbcer out, as a lot of people I've spoken to definately are.

I've always liked Kate Honey, and I agree, I would love her to win (though I don't think she will, unfortunately.) Everything you said was spot on (you are scarily good at analysing people!)

Anyway, i have a horrible feelinfg it will be her and Jonny up on Tuesday, but she'd definately get my vote (although I do love Jonny)
I think she's funny - especially the bits at the barbecue when she was doing that ridiculous accent the other night - certainly makes me smile.
I just wish she'd see Adele is awful to her (I really can't stand Adele!!!)

chilledbootz
29-06-2002, 07:36 PM
Sorry R.O.B but I couldn't resist this pic of Spence. I told you I still love Paul and i'll find a way to make you see it. xxxxxxxxx:elephant:

Mairi
29-06-2002, 07:41 PM
Kate's a great girl, gutsy, kind and funny. I really hope she will be one of the final three and I would like to think that she COULD win BB.

You've got me worried now though, Glitter_Babe, at the thought of her and Jonny being up for nomination together on Tuesday as I would HATE to have to choose between those two this early.

:spin2::spin2::spin2::spin2::spin2:

Oldgit
29-06-2002, 09:00 PM
I would not have a problem with Kate winning. Jonny is my favourite, but I see the bond between those two as being much deeper than Kate's attraction to Spencer or Jonny's larking about with Alison.

So if either of those two win I will be delighted.

I have also noticed a cooling off towards Alex in some areas. YES! YES! YES!

kaphc
30-06-2002, 07:11 PM
Did anyone else see the amount of text messages on BBLB in support of Kate?

There were loads of positive comments about her, which is great!

:hello::hello::hello:

Amy
30-06-2002, 07:16 PM
I thought what Kate did last night was lovely she tried her best for her housemates and good on Alex for standing up and saying we're behind you
:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

kaphc
30-06-2002, 07:18 PM
It's soooo bizarre, I was sitting watching BBLB and just said how much I liked Alex's comment to Kate that if she ended up on the poor side, they would all look after her! And then Deidre the agony aunt went and said exactly the same thing!!

:thumbs::thumbs:

Sticks
30-06-2002, 07:23 PM
Now watch Kate's popularity take a nose dive as Adele uses her as her replacement for Jade. Adele has already managed to get Kate Bitching about Jade.

Machiavelli would be oh so proud of Adele

:devil:

Mairi
30-06-2002, 07:47 PM
So, why on earth haven't you nominated her, Sticks???????????

:nono:

Sticks
30-06-2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by miriam
So, why on earth haven't you nominated her, Sticks???????????

:nono:

No point (See this link) (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=1423 )

Kate
01-07-2002, 11:04 AM
I agree with everyone

KATE TO WIN :dance:

BigSister
01-07-2002, 03:04 PM
I agree with you

I think she will be a good winner either her or Johnny
I think what she did on Saturday was very kind she didnt have to do it but she did
Did Tim do it noooooooooooo

:elephant::elephant::elephant::elephant:

Sticks
01-07-2002, 07:48 PM
The deputy editor of Heat on BBLB tonight said that she would forever have to hate Kate, because she got close to Spencer.

Proves my point, after Jade Kate is the most hated women of all time and has less than a snowballs chance in Gehenna of winning.

:devil::bawling:

Oldgit
01-07-2002, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Sticks
The deputy editor of Heat on BBLB tonight said that she would forever have to hate Kate, because she got close to Spencer.

Proves my point, after Jade Kate is the most hated women of all time and has less than a snowballs chance in Gehenna of winning.

Sticks, purr-lease! She said it tongue in cheek and said she would not mind if Kate won!

I am starting to think the tide is turning in Kate's favour, and it is about time a woman won Big Brother (not as a token, but on merit).

Kate is showing herself to be a good example of how you can be nice in a competitive situation, be caring and mean it (she gave a lot of support to Sophie and Jonny), and be both gentle and tough enough to hold your own with the men.

Yes a lot of girls may have envied her, but now I can see how a lot of them now want to be her, a more positive response.

I think she now has a really good chance.

Sticks
01-07-2002, 09:53 PM
For the moment I am still under contract to be Jade's Cyber Devil's Advocate until she leaves, so I am unable to comment on who I want to win.

We have already conceded elsewhere that our client will not win BB3, so I have my private thoughts as to who I would like to win. Until my contract expires I will have to keep them under wraps

kaphc
02-07-2002, 07:38 PM
I want Jade to be voted out on Friday night now, just so we can hear your thoughts, Sticks. :hugesmile::hugesmile:

Oldgit
02-07-2002, 08:05 PM
I think it is more important to get Adele out so that she does not get into Kate's mind, something she is working on. Jade can wait another week.

Grotbag
02-07-2002, 08:47 PM
Adele is already in Kate's mind abit. Earlier on, Jonny asked PJ and Kate who they trusted and Kate said Jonny, PJ and Adele. Jonny said her and PJ and hinted that Adele may not be a good one to trust. Lets hope she listens to Jonny!

splodge0
03-07-2002, 07:57 PM
Poppet, poppet, poppet:love:



pity about spanky

Amy
03-07-2002, 08:00 PM
I think Kate is far to trust worthy she cannot see through Adele, I think Kate will be a little :shocked: when she leaves the house !!!

steve_o
03-07-2002, 08:03 PM
I think Kate's ok as well, she doesn't moan much and she's got talent, but doesn't show it much, for being branded playing up to the cameras. Maybe if she stay's in long enough with Jonny we may see more of a double act. I hope so :dance:

:spin:

Oldgit
03-07-2002, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by steve_o
I think Kate's ok as well, she doesn't moan much and she's got talent, but doesn't show it much, for being branded playing up to the cameras. Maybe if she stay's in long enough with Jonny we may see more of a double act. I hope so :dance:

:spin:

I love the double act. I think it has emerged because Kate wanted the "old" Jonny back, and really provoked him into being funny again. People thought Kate was a bitch because she was not first out of the chair when Sophie came in, but I would not have pushed my way to the front either, I'm just not like that. She may have held back at first, but she was a friend in need, when it would have been easier to leave her to being bullied.

You see characters develop in the house. Jonny the clown has shown his feelings and hurt. Adele the smiling face has shown a two-faced side that no-one expected. Sophie, at first the most boring woman on earth, showed that, when she is with the right people, she is lively, vivacious and up for a laugh. PJ, the chauvinist, the lad, has compensated by showing some really good qualities and loyalty to his best friends. Alex has gone through more changes than anyone, but all of them are completely anal!

But above all, Kate has gradually, in stages, shown she is more than a pretty face. She is a loyal friend, she is a bit of a tomboy, she is bubbly and fun, but above all she has been a friend in need for Jonny and Sophie, and I think has to take credit for Jonny's return to form.

I'm a really torn between Jonny and Kate as winners.

WILDCHILD
04-07-2002, 02:35 PM
Theres no doubt about it - the final 3 is gonna be between Alex, Kate and Jonny - unless some of them are put up for eviction together!:shocked:
I am torn between Jonny and Alex.
I think Kate is really funny and not a lot of it is shown on the C4 shows but I dont think there is anything really WOW about her that would make her the overall winner - maybe Im wrong but I would love to see one of the 2 boys win it. Altho it would be good to see a gal win Big Brother!:laugh: