Vatican condemns Hallowe'en as anti-Christian

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6467253/Vatican-condemns-Halloween-as-anti-Christian.html

I would more condemn it as too "American"

[Niamh.]

Oh For ****s Sake!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh For ****s Sake!!

They are not going to like November the 5th much either....

[Beastie]

they need to grow up and learn to agree to disagree..

[MrGaryy]

well I condemn the Vatican as deluded facists.

[Niamh.]

Whats November 5th? I know there's a rhyme about it, remember, remember the 5th of November......... Guy Fawlkes(just googled it!!) We don't have that here, thats a British thing

[arista]

well I condemn the Vatican as deluded facists.



Bang On Right

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01513/Hallowe_en_1513478c.jpg

This is from a Movie Mask
anyway.

[Shaun]

yeah, that's why people love it. :)

[bronaaaa]

-sigh-

[Crimson Dynamo]

Whats November 5th? I know there's a rhyme about it, remember, remember the 5th of November......... Guy Fawlkes(just googled it!!) We don't have that here, thats a British thing

Catholic plot to dynamite the houses of parliament. Every 5th November is fireworks night and most towns burn an effigy of the main culprit on a huge bonfire, many English towns still burn a Pope effigy.

[NettoSuperstar!]

hehe

[Enid]

A penny loaf to feed the Pope.
A farthing of cheese to choke him.
A pint of beer to rinse it down.
A fagot of sticks to burn him.
Burn him in a tub of tar.
Burn him like a blazing star.
Burn his body from his head.
Then we'll say ol' Pope is dead.
Hip hip hoorah! Hip hip hoorah hoorah!

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Pope looks scarier than any Scream mask

[Niamh.]

The Pope looks scarier than any Scream mask

I thought you were a "christain"?

[Fom]

Yeah but it is a Pagan holiday isn't it? If you are a truthful Christian you wouldn't celebrate it, it is in a way like saying if your Christian you shouldn't celebrate Hanukkah.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah but it is a Pagan holiday isn't it? If you are a truthful Christian you wouldn't celebrate it, it is in a way like saying if your Christian you shouldn't celebrate Hanukkah.

As a Christian I dont celebrate it but it is more because I am an adult.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I thought you were a "christain"?

i kick with the other foot..

[Niamh.]

i kick with the other foot..

?? You mean you're Church of England? But ye are both Christians and follow the Bible??

[Crimson Dynamo]

?? You mean you're Church of England? But ye are both Christians and follow the Bible??

Protestant and yes both are Christian but i do not agree with quite a bit of catholicism and can have a bit of a laugh at the Pope (I cant help that being a Rangers fan!).

[Niamh.]

Protestant and yes both are Christian but i do not agree with quite a bit of catholicism and can have a bit of a laugh at the Pope (I cant help that being a Rangers fan!).

Celtic all the way lol!!! I won't disagree with you about the numerous silly rules of Catholicism though:joker:

[Harry!]

Religion, Religion, RELIGION. Such a killjoy these days.

[WOMBAI]

There is nothing wrong with a bit of fun for the kids - some people just take themselves far too seriously.

[BB_Eye]

The Vatican are a joke these days. I feel sorry for a lot of Catholics actually. They need a third Rome.

[Scarlett.]

The Pope needs a bitch slap off his balcony

[setanta]

It's always good to keep in touch with your pagan Celtic ancestry - Pope should stick his beak in other affairs.

[Prole]

Seeing that the Catholics have done their level best to eradicate all Pagan religions, usually with violence, naturally the pope would condemn it. Actually Halloween, or Samhain to give it its proper title, has been around much longer than Christianity. People celebrate it these days in much the same way they celebrate Christmas, that is to say that they know nothing of the roots of the festival but enjoy the party. And there's nothing wrong with that.

[InOne]

Well everyone was always gonna disagree on this.

[Prole]

I think if people want to have fun on Halloween, whether they're Pagans or they just enjoy the occasion, I don't see a problem. The church just likes to suck the joy out of everything.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think if people want to have fun on Halloween, whether they're Pagans or they just enjoy the occasion, I don't see a problem. The church just likes to suck the joy out of everything.

that is nonsense naturally. but i do think that no one is celebrating the dark side at Halloween it is just an excuse to have fun for children and people who are looking to find partners (ie teenagers).

[Prole]

that is nonsense naturally. but i do think that no one is celebrating the dark side at Halloween it is just an excuse to have fun for children and people who are looking to find partners (ie teenagers).

Anything that you don't comprehend is nonsense, it seems. I'm not sure what you mean by the "dark side". I celebrate Samhain every year and there's nothing dark about it. I suppose that's a big difference difference between me and you; I am happy for people to celebrate their own particular religion, whereas you ridicule anything you don't understand. It's a shame.

[Ramsay]

such ******s they are
''oh were right were always right people should do what we say''
their as bad as hitler for **** sake
well minus the killings

[InOne]

such ******s they are
''oh were right were always right people should do what we say''
their as bad as hitler for **** sake
well minus the killings

Minus the killings???? Have you not heard of the Crucades!!!!!

[MiuMiu]

Why did they need to condemn it?
Off course it's ant-christian. It's a pagan festival.
But aren't all christian feasts built upon pagan festivals anyways?
What next?
Condenming Christmas for being anti-chrisitan?
lol!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why did they need to condemn it?
Off course it's ant-christian. It's a pagan festival.
But aren't all christian feasts built upon pagan festivals anyways?
What next?
Condenming Christmas for being anti-chrisitan?
lol!

not built upon but there to rival and eclipse -which is precisely what they did

[Prole]

not built upon but there to rival and eclipse -which is precisely what they did

Yeah, that's what you think. The saddest sight I see on a Sunday is the handful of elderly people wandering into the local chilly church so they can praise their God by singing songs about what terrible people they are. "Have mercy on us, miserable offenders". LOL... Actually most of them are probably not sinners at all, but good people. Meanwhile Pagans celebrate everything, nature, women, sex... all the stuff Christians tut-tut and get lemon-faced about.

Christianity tried to crush Paganism through force, using violence and torture you couldn't imagine, and could never justify if you could. But it failed. There are more people following Pagan traditions now than at any other time in history. Christianity is dwindling meanwhile, probably because people are wising up. Especially as the church seems to be represented sometimes by people like Leather Trumpet, who spout archaic poppycock and insult other religions. That's not a way to get people to convert to your way of thinking; it just makes people think you're blinkered and intolerant.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah, that's what you think. The saddest sight I see on a Sunday is the handful of elderly people wandering into the local chilly church so they can praise their God by singing songs about what terrible people they are. "Have mercy on us, miserable offenders". LOL... Actually most of them are probably not sinners at all, but good people. Meanwhile Pagans celebrate everything, nature, women, sex... all the stuff Christians tut-tut and get lemon-faced about.

Christianity tried to crush Paganism through force, using violence and torture you couldn't imagine, and could never justify if you could. But it failed. There are more people following Pagan traditions now than at any other time in history. Christianity is dwindling meanwhile, probably because people are wising up. Especially as the church seems to be represented sometimes by people like Leather Trumpet, who spout archaic poppycock and insult other religions. That's not a way to get people to convert to your way of thinking; it just makes people think you're blinkered and intolerant.


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