Chief Rabbi: 'Europe will die by selfish secularism'

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.christian.org.uk/news/chief-rabbi-europe-will-die-by-selfish-secularism/

Obviously you may say "thats bollocks" but then that is rather the point..

[Stu]

''Guess what, folks, our numbers are dwindling and we are loosing money. As it happens, most of the world's problems now stem from secularism. Please come back to us. Pretty please?''.

I was under the impression that most of the world's troubles stem from lack of resource and, oh say ... overpopulation? A falling population anywhere is good these days.

[WOMBAI]

They complain if people have too many children - they complain if they don't have enough! Damned either way.

In the end - you can't force people to have children they don't want. I guess people's values have changed in that they want a better quality of life - and that often means having successful careers - including women - so they have less children.

It is a matter of choice - and if people do not have religious reasons for wanting lots of children - who is he or anyone else to criticize.

Life is not just about procreation - it is about quality of life as well. We get one life - we have a right to enjoy it.

[Stu]

We should love the people that are already here. If religionists had any sense at all, they would adopt children that are already here and are unloved. Children that need a family and need love. Instead they **** out little cabbages who grow up to be narrow eyed, furrow browed ignorant little bible bashers like they're mommy and daddies, and there only purpose, apparently, is to have more children all over again and tell people how to live their lives.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We should love the people that are already here. If religionists had any sense at all, they would adopt children that are already here and are unloved. Children that need a family and need love. Instead they **** out little cabbages who grow up to be narrow eyed, furrow browed ignorant little bible bashers like they're mommy and daddies, and there only purpose, apparently, is to have more children all over again and tell people how to live their lives.

Well how could anyone resist such a compelling post..?


Glad to see the "i'm right and your wrong" pov is alive and well. :joker:

[Stu]

Well how could anyone resist such a compelling post..?


Glad to see the "i'm right and your wrong" pov is alive and well. :joker:
It's called an opinion, jackass.

If it was an ''I'm right and your wrong'' point of view you could turn the tables and say the exact same thing about the article. Or your post, for that matter.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's called an opinion, jackass.

If it was an ''I'm right and your wrong'' point of view you could turn the tables and say the exact same thing about the article. Or your post, for that matter.

I would stop drinking caffeine If I were you, that and brush my hair...:spin:

[Stu]

I would stop drinking caffeine If I were you, that and brush my hair...:spin:
What an excellent argument. I see you are the newest ''you made a good point, so now I am going to ignore it and post something bizarre'' member of our forum.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What an excellent argument. I see you are the newest ''you made a good point, so now I am going to ignore it and post something bizarre'' member of our forum.

was it the hair comment?


:joker:

[Stu]

was it the hair comment?


:joker:
And he does it again!

No, because I do brush my hair, simply in reverse. And I don't drink caffeine. More of a chilling guy.

For the record, you should wax your eyebrows, get a vasectomy and take up violin lessons.

[Prole]

Religion doesn't have the monopoly on morality.

[Scarlett.]

"He said that Europe is the world’s most secular region and the only one with a declining population."

Obviously he cant be including the UK, we have just passed the 61 million mark

[Beastie]

I would love to adopt children if I couldnt have them naturally but having babies will happen far in the future. I am only 20 after all.

[Beastie]

"He said that Europe is the world’s most secular region and the only one with a declining population."

Obviously he cant be including the UK, we have just passed the 61 million mark


apparently the UK population is meant to hit up to 70 million in the next 10 years.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"He said that Europe is the world’s most secular region and the only one with a declining population."

Obviously he cant be including the UK, we have just passed the 61 million mark

I think he means Europe as a whole. We may be increasing but as a whole..

[BB_Eye]

Too many people worship themselves these days. The erosion of religion, together with the rise of rampant consumer culture has made a our society increasingly atomised and narcissistic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Too many people worship themselves these days. The erosion of religion, together with the rise of rampant consumer culture has made a our society increasingly atomised and narcissistic.

i agree

[NettoSuperstar!]

Obviously no mention of a humanist perspective there (I didnt expect there would be) Its people that ****ed this world up and ****ed any spiritual and moral thought by the creation of religion itself. And dont come the Christian with us, any moral compass you do have, only extends to your "own"

[WOMBAI]

Religion doesn't have the monopoly on morality.

Couldn't agree more! Well said! :elephant::elephant::elephant:

Many a heinous crime has been committed (and still is) in the name of 'religion'! :joker:

[Scarlett.]

Too many people worship themselves these days. The erosion of religion, together with the rise of rampant consumer culture has made a our society increasingly atomised and narcissistic.
As apposed to turning a blind eye to abuse and and follwing the words of a book thats been through so many edits by so many different people, so blindly

[arista]

http://www.christian.org.uk/news/chief-rabbi-europe-will-die-by-selfish-secularism/

Obviously you may say "thats bollocks" but then that is rather the point..



No we can say
better 'There Is No God'



Sign Of The Times.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As apposed to turning a blind eye to abuse and and follwing the words of a book thats been through so many edits by so many different people, so blindly

Rabbi would be your clue word and if you take even a 5 minute journey into cyberspace you would realise how ridiculous your last point is regarding Judaism

[Scarlett.]

Rabbi would be your clue word and if you take even a 5 minute journey into cyberspace you would realise how ridiculous your last point is regarding JudaismOh, well fine, but all religeon pretty much causes trouble anyway

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh, well fine, but all religeon pretty much causes trouble anyway

People cause trouble. You will find that in any large organisation of people there will be trouble. get enough men together and trouble will follow.

[WOMBAI]

People cause trouble. You will find that in any large organisation of people there will be trouble. get enough men together and trouble will follow.

Yes - but they use religion as an excuse to justify their behaviour - they don't really believe - the guise of religion enables them to execute their crimes, free from blame! One big joke!:joker:

[Stu]

People cause trouble.
People cause Religion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

People cause Religion.


is a secular view.

[Stu]

is a secular view.
No, it's pretty much the only view. People did create religions. Unless you are suggesting an alien race created religion then erased out our memories to the matter.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No, it's pretty much the only view. People did create religions. Unless you are suggesting an alien race created religion then erased out our memories to the matter.
Who created Christianity?

[Stu]

Who created Christianity?
I don't think there is a direct answer to something so huge. Paul is credited with creating a lot of Christian theology and could be seen as the human 'creator' of many of it's aspects in a sense, then of course Jesus could be seen as the 'spiritual' creator and the poster boy that keeps it all together.