Sex before marriage and purity rings

[Princess]

What's your opinion on it? Think purity rings are a lot of rubbish or are they actually a good idea?

[Crimson Dynamo]

great idea.

[Firewire]

rofl Jonas Brothers have them.

[Niamh.]

Purity rings?

[Princess]

Purity rings?

Yeah they're rings you wear to say you won't have sex before marriage,and apprentley it's supposed to be replaced by a wedding ring. They're big in America. Whole big religious thing.

[Mrluvaluva]

Sod that. Get it while you can. Lol

[Stu]

I said it before and I will say it again, have I missed a meeting? Is sex suddenly a bad thing?

Screw purity rings. Have a packet of condoms and a night to remember.

[Princess]

Oh and I'm totally against the whole thing. They should teach kids to be safe instead,it's ridiculous really and pointless.

[Ramsay]

its stupid

[Niamh.]

Yeah they're rings you wear to say you won't have sex before marriage,and apprentley it's supposed to be replaced by a wedding ring. They're big in America. Whole big religious thing.

lol, that's hilarious!!! Eh, a big nooooooooo though!!

[WOMBAI]

All this purity nonsense it about 'ownership' - nearly always applied by men towards women. Men like to think they have had 'first dibs' - no second-hand tat. Just about thier egos. I wouldn't buy into it if I were you. Nothing wrong with a bit of experience and 'trying before buying' so to speak.

[Tom]

Its all about test driving before purchase

[Niamh.]

Its all about test driving before purchase

Exactly Tom, If you're going to have to sleep with 1 person for the rest of your life, you want to know what they're like in bed first!!!:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Anything that stops abortion is a plus.

[MarkWaldorf]

Well tbh before you say its 'pointless' or what ever, it's actually quite a sacred part of religion. Before it became some huge trend after the Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus, it was something for young Christians (or any other religion that does it) to prove their trust to God and keep themselves pure. It was also special because a lot of girls do it as a promise to their fathers (especially in America) rather than putting on a ring when you probably aren't even religious and saying you'll do it because Nick Jonas does it.

I know Christians my age that do it and it's only because their families are really devoted to Christianity. I would never do it myself but I wouldn't lay around either.

[Stu]

Anything that stops abortion is a plus.
Shame the Catholic Church is against the use of contraceptives, then.

[Sophii3x]

I personally think it's all ridiculous. Having sex before marrige shouldn't be seen as a sin at all, what's the difference with doing it before or after anyway? it's sex! But if people want to wear these rings then they can.. I just think that they should be taught about safe sex rather than be told to not have it full stop (well until their married).

[Ninastar]

and what happens when you wait till your married and you find out that your husband has a 1 inch long dick?

[Jack_]

Couldn't care less. If people want to hold themselves back on sex until they're married then good for them, if not, then good for them too.

Personally I would never do it as I don't see the point, but each to their own.

[WOMBAI]

Well tbh before you say its 'pointless' or what ever, it's actually quite a sacred part of religion. Before it became some huge trend after the Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus, it was something for young Christians (or any other religion that does it) to prove their trust to God and keep themselves pure. It was also special because a lot of girls do it as a promise to their fathers (especially in America) rather than putting on a ring when you probably aren't even religious and saying you'll do it because Nick Jonas does it.

I know Christians my age that do it and it's only because their families are really devoted to Christianity. I would never do it myself but I wouldn't lay around either.

Trouble with that - is that it has nearly always been one-sided. Nearly always applied to women - and not men. Certainly don't agree with that. What is good for the goose - is most certainly equally as good for the gander!!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

and what happens when you wait till your married and you find out that your husband has a 1 inch long dick?

better than your wife having one I guess

[Niamh.]

better than your wife having one I guess

:laugh2:

[MarkWaldorf]

Trouble with that - is that it has nearly always been one-sided. Nearly always applied to women - and not men. Certainly don't agree with that. What is good for the goose - is most certainly equally as good for the gander!!!

Yeah, but especially in the case of the father/daughter, I don't think it's going to be fairly common for a father to ask their son to not have sex. Most males that do it have probably just seen it in the bible and know not to do it.
Plus I may be generalising here but rings are more feminine. I was given a necklace after my christening.

[Crimson Dynamo]

if more folks on here kept their rings pure then we might not have to endure so many pictures of Lady GaGa

[Tom]

Exactly Tom, If you're going to have to sleep with 1 person for the rest of your life, you want to know what they're like in bed first!!!:joker:

Definitely. Call me shallow but I'd never go out with anyone who is rubbish in bed, let alone be married to them!

[WOMBAI]

Definitely. Call me shallow but I'd never go out with anyone who is rubbish in bed, let alone be married to them!

Problem with that is that marriage is supposedly for life - but we all know that lust doesn't last anywhere near that long. There has to be an awful lot more to a relationship than that (because chances are 'that' won't last for long).

What's preferable - liking someone and enjoying their company - but not fancying them OR fancying the pants off someone, but being bored rigid by them - on a long-term basis.

[Lauren]

Oh and I'm totally against the whole thing. They should teach kids to be safe instead,it's ridiculous really and pointless.

Yeah, if they're just taught that sex is bad then they'll see it as a taboo subject and not learn about it. When they finally decide to have it (usually BEFORE marriage anyway), they use no protection and wham bam, hey baby!

Most of its just a load of indoctrination anyway, scare them away from sex, make them believe it's only worthy and good if you're married - next thing you know you have a married 18 year old girl who is sexually incompatible with her husband (or vice versa), cheats around and gets a bucketload of nasty things.

[Niamh.]

Definitely. Call me shallow but I'd never go out with anyone who is rubbish in bed, let alone be married to them!

Well, sex is an important part of marriage, it's not the most important thing but it is important all the same!!

[Z]

and what happens when you wait till your married and you find out that your husband has a 1 inch long dick?

All part of my devious plan, muahahaha.




Somebody should section me.

[Sticks]

Purity rings are a gimmic

We have them already, they are called engagement rings and below that eternity rings

I will have to hunt them down again, but I remember some statistics that showed that those who abstained from sex before marriage had better relationships et al.

Certain contraceptives mentioned here are not 100% effective, where as abstinence is. If both the man and the woman abstain then many of these STD's will be stopped in their tracks along with unwanted pregnancies.

This is the truth that dare not be spoken because it flies in the face of some peoples desires to engage in actions just to gratify certain desires which could be resisted with self discipline.

:nono:

[Stu]

Purity rings are a gimmic

We have them already, they are called engagement rings and below that eternity rings

I will have to hunt them down again, but I remember some statistics that showed that those who abstained from sex before marriage had better relationships et al.

Certain contraceptives mentioned here are not 100% effective, where as abstinence is. If both the man and the woman abstain then many of these STD's will be stopped in their tracks along with unwanted pregnancies.

This is the truth that dare not be spoken because it flies in the face of some peoples desires to engage in actions just to gratify certain desires which could be resisted with self discipline.

:nono:
The better relationships thing could easily be chalked up to personality though. Not to generalise, but a lot of people who abstain from sex tend to be ... boring and predictable? And thus remain quiet happy in there relationships. People who don't abstain on the other hand, i.e. the majority, are a much broader cross section of people many of whom are probably less religious and more on the carefree side of life.

Contraceptives work if you use them well. To say they don't work 100% really is clutching at straws. Used right, with education, they almost always work. The idea that the best way to prevent STD's is to simply not have sex is a bit ridiculous to most people. And it's obviously not going to catch on with the kidz any time soon. You know, this whole not having sex thing.

That being said, the education, development, and practice of safe sex is a far better remedy to prevent the spread of STD's than not having sex. Because in the real world, people are not going to stop having sex. Shame the church doesn't want to embrace it and play it's part in curbing STD's.

[arsenalforever]

Couldn't care less. If people want to hold themselves back on sex until they're married then good for them, if not, then good for them too.

Personally I would never do it as I don't see the point, but each to their own.

god no she's got to put out cause i'm not wanking for years until i marry her
she's got to show me what i'm getting:joker:

[Enid]

Me? Purity ring? Hahahaha.

It's too late for me. I'm all worn and torn.

[WOMBAI]

:joker:Me? Purity ring? Hahahaha.

It's too late for me. I'm all worn and torn.

:joker:

[arsenalforever]

Me? Purity ring? Hahahaha.

It's too late for me. I'm all worn and torn.

i say there's some go in you yet Enid ;)

[Tom4784]

I don't agree with it, Like somebody else said what if you find out you're sexually incompatible? Sex is a vital part of a relationship and I agree with the 'Try before you buy' sentiment.

The whole idea that it'd a good way to prevent STD's and unwated pregnancies is ridiculous, good knowledge in how to use contraception and being safe is how you prevent it. Education is better then abstinance.

[Wildcat!]

LMAO at this thread! WHo hell are you people to debate if its right or wrong to wait for sex until marriage, and to wear those rings?
If you want to have sex and "sample", like you put it, thats your business. Same as the people who decide to wait. YOu think just because they are abstaining, they dont know about birth control and other things? BEcause youre having sex, you think youre more educated than those people? This is not the 18th century.
Arguably we all know the only 100% way to prevent STDs is abstenance.
Fair enough most of you are atheist, dont believe in god, or dont believe in religions, whatever floats your boat. But dont go knocking the people who actually do, and try to get them to conform to your ways. Some peole do actually follow their religion, and believe in it. I am nowhere near these people, but I definitely commend them for what they choose to do.

And the stupid argument about its a thing of oPpression for women! WTF once more? It has nothing to do with gender whatsoever.

[Niamh.]

LMAO at this thread! WHo hell are you people to debate if its right or wrong to wait for sex until marriage, and to wear those rings?
If you want to have sex and "sample", like you put it, thats your business. Same as the people who decide to wait. YOu think just because they are abstaining, they dont know about birth control and other things? This is not the 18th century.
Arguably we all know the only 100% way to prevent STDs is abstenance.
Fair enough most of you are atheist, dont believe in god, or dont believe in religions, whatever floats your boat. But dont go knocking the people who actually do, and try to get them to conform to your ways.

And the stupid argument about its a thing of oPpression for women! WTF once more? It has nothing to do with gender whatsoever.

The way I look at it is it's an individual decision. If you want to abstain fine, if you don't then thats also fine

[Wildcat!]

The way I look at it is it's an individual decision. If you want to abstain fine, if you don't then thats also fine

Exactly! What I laugh about is these people out here, posting like their way is superior!!! I have to sample before I marry someone!!! Give me a break! Chances are, most people who think like that, are the once who never get married, or end u divorced within a few years. It takes a lot more than sexual compatibility for a marriage to work. In fact if you think its vital, then thats when you are likely doomed.

[Lauren]

Certain contraceptives mentioned here are not 100% effective, where as abstinence is. If both the man and the woman abstain then many of these STD's will be stopped in their tracks along with unwanted pregnancies.


There's a risk that when I go outside, I may be run over, mugged, attacked, raped etc. To counteract that threat, I should just stay inside? I mean I don't really need to GO outside, it's just a desire, if I kept my willpower up I could stay inside forever. That is basically the explanation from abstinence. We can't wrap ourselves up in cotton wool, and avoid everything that may be a danger to us.

(PS. Apparently abstinence is not 100% effective if we are to believe the immaculate conception...)

[Niamh.]

Exactly! What I laugh about is these people out here, posting like their way is superior!!! I have to sample before I marry someone!!! Give me a break! Chances are, most people who think like that, are the once who never get married, or end u divorced within a few years. It takes a lot more than sexual compatibility for a marriage to work. In fact if you think its vital, then thats when you are likely doomed.

Well, I would be one of the people preferring to sample before I marry but thats my choice! and I'm happily married as well. I do think sex is an important part of marriage though not thee most important part.

[Lauren]

Also RE: Wildcat - I don't have an issue with people abstaining. It's a personal choice completely and does not effect me in the slightest what they decide to do.

I do have a problem with the people that preach to me that I'M wrong by having sex before marriage, and that it's impure to do so. I think sex in a marriage is extremely vital, but not solely important - along with a variety of other things it paves the way for an enjoyable marriage.

[Niamh.]

Also RE: Wildcat - I don't have an issue with people abstaining. It's a personal choice completely and does not effect me in the slightest what they decide to do.

I do have a problem with the people that preach to me that I'M wrong by having sex before marriage, and that it's impure to do so. I think sex in a marriage is extremely vital, but not solely important - along with a variety of other things it paves the way for an enjoyable marriage.

Yeah, I completely agree with you Lauren

[Wildcat!]

Also RE: Wildcat - I don't have an issue with people abstaining. It's a personal choice completely and does not effect me in the slightest what they decide to do.

I do have a problem with the people that preach to me that I'M wrong by having sex before marriage, and that it's impure to do so. I think sex in a marriage is extremely vital, but not solely important - along with a variety of other things it paves the way for an enjoyable marriage.


Sorry, but lets be real here. The whole compatibility thing is way over rated. sex, is sex, its not some great science where you really have to have the right partner and whatnot. Chances are if youre attracted to someone the sex is going to be good, I would say 90% of the time. Yeah, its very enjoyable, but how often can you say I had sex but didnt enjoy it, really?

Fair enough you dont want to be reached, but I dont think thats what these people who wear their rings are about, so I dont see how some posters, out here have any right to demean or mock in certain cases, what they are doing.

[Captain.Remy]

I'm a Christian BUT I didn't wait until marriage to have sex (I'm not married yet). I mean, this is from another era, come on, we don't get married at 18 like our grand parents. We are young, free, confident, we live to party and to meet new people.
And it's generally the people who have the most restrictions that will do the exact contrary because what is forbidden is attractive. It's a lot of hypocrisy to be honest.

[Niamh.]

Sorry, but lets be real here. The whole compatibility thing is way over rated. sex, is sex, its not some great science where you really have to have the right partner and whatnot. Chances are if youre attracted to someone the sex is going to be good, I would say 90% of the time. Yeah, its very enjoyable, but how often can you say I had sex but didnt enjoy it, really?

Fair enough you dont want to be reached, but I dont think thats what these people who wear their rings are about, so I dont see how some posters, out here have any right to demean what they are doing.

I strongly disagree with that wildcat. Especially if you're a girl, it is very easy to not enjoy sex if your partner is a "wham bam thank you mam" type!!

And again, I have no problem if people want to abstain that's their choice!

[Lauren]

Sorry, but lets be real here. The whole compatibility thing is way over rated. sex, is sex, its not some great science where you really have to have the right partner and whatnot. Chances are if youre attracted to someone the sex is going to be good, I would say 90% of the time. Yeah, its very enjoyable, but how often can you say I had sex but didnt enjoy it, really?

Fair enough you dont want to be reached, but I dont think thats what these people who wear their rings are about, so I dont see how some posters, out here have any right to demean what they are doing.

Maybe I'm just more particular than you, but I think there is such a thing as sexual incompatibility, such as if someone has particular niches in the bedroom, or preferences that go against their partners.

My original post about the educated of STDs and protection was mainly directed towards the US Education system which teaches abstinence in it's totality rather than contraception, and US is where purity rings are mainly worn. I have nothing against people wearing the rings, or choosing to stay abstinent.

[Wildcat!]

Maybe I'm just more particular than you, but I think there is such a thing as sexual incompatibility, such as if someone has particular niches in the bedroom, or preferences that go against their partners.

My original post about the educated of STDs and protection was mainly directed towards the US Education system which teaches abstinence in it's totality rather than contraception, and US is where purity rings are mainly worn. I have nothing against people wearing the rings, or choosing to stay abstinent.


Surely that can be said about any partner! Youre not gonna be magically in synch right away, and it always gets better in time.

And as for the whole teaching of abstinance? Who teaches abstinence? HOw long will that class be? Abstinence is best! Class over. Its a recommendation, not a teaching. And its the right one, because it is after all the only full proof method. It doesnt mean that they dont get sex education. Pretty muh everyone gets it these days.
I personally dont agree with it, at a cetain age. I think kids gets sex education way too young these days. imo it encourages people to have sex at ridiculous ages like 11 and 12. I think it should start much later than they do it these days.

[Sticks]

Here is a little story you might like to read (http://www.corner1.com/theworld/abstain.htm)

[Wildcat!]

Here is a little story you might like to read (http://www.corner1.com/theworld/abstain.htm)

:hugesmile::hugesmile: That was quite funny! LOL!

[Lauren]

Surely that can be said about any partner! Youre not gonna be magically in synch right away, and it always gets better in time.

And as for the whole teaching of abstinance? Who teaches abstinence? HOw long will that class be? Abstinence is best! Class over. Its a recommendation, not a teaching. And its the right one, because it is after all the only full proof method. It doesnt mean that they dont get sex education. Pretty muh everyone gets it these days.
I personally dont agree with it, at a cetain age. I think kids gets sex education way too young these days. imo it encourages people to have sex at ridiculous ages like 11 and 12. I think it should start much later than they do it these days.

A class consisting of teaching that abstinence is the only fool-proof method is not teaching about conception. I'm not saying that we shouldn't teach abstinence, but we should teach it alongside methods of protection too, if we just teach abstinence then when they do eventually have sex (whether it's within a marriage or before) - they may not be completely clued up about protection. This isn't just about people wearing purity rings, I mean all young people aren't taught properly.

And I agree people are taught it too early, but now the damage has been done that people are having sex at the age of 13 - we need to teach protection too. I don't think being taught at such a young age -encourages- sex, I think the media does that (shows like hollyoaks, eastenders, the oc or whatever - im not very up to date on modern shows lol).

[Niamh.]

Good story sticks!!

and yes, I do think kids are having sex at far too young an age today

[Stu]

Here is a little story you might like to read (http://www.corner1.com/theworld/abstain.htm)
And that one little story proves ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnothing.

[Tom]

Maybe I'm just more particular than you, but I think there is such a thing as sexual incompatibility, such as if someone has particular niches in the bedroom, or preferences that go against their partners.


Is that a polite way of putting him liking it hard and rough whilst she likes it gentle?

[Wildcat!]

Is that a polite way of putting him liking it hard and rough whilst she likes it gentle?

LMFAO!!! :laugh: :laugh:
Dude!:shocked:

[Crimson Dynamo]

sex in your teenage years is WAY WAY over rated.

most teenagers have no idea, for example, what a clitoris is

what a waste of time..

[Stu]

sex in your teenage years is WAY WAY over rated.
Ohhhhhhhhh no it's not.

:wink:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ohhhhhhhhh no it's not.

:wink:

i suspect that your right hand is NOT the best witness in the box

[Stu]

i suspect that your right hand is NOT the best witness in the box
I would say it is, considering it had a firm grasp on her ass at the time.

[Z]

Abstinence isn't something you can teach as gospel; let every individual make their own decisions in life. I'm still a virgin at 18 years old, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. What if a person doesn't get married? I think the concept is romantic and all, but in real life, if you spend your life preserving yourself for 'the one', who's to say things will stay that way? We don't know how our lives will pan out.

[Stu]

Abstinence isn't something you can teach as gospel; let every individual make their own decisions in life. I'm still a virgin at 18 years old, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. What if a person doesn't get married? I think the concept is romantic and all, but in real life, if you spend your life preserving yourself for 'the one', who's to say things will stay that way? We don't know how our lives will pan out.
Plus the whole concept of 'the one' is insane to begin with. I do believe in love. Deep, spiritual, passionate love, and all that. But I believe it can occur with literally thousands of individuals who suit you both mentally and physically. The idea of there being just one single woman in life who is your exact match is a bit ... ****.

And how come you always meet these women at a club at two in the morning? None of them seem to be in, say, Alaska.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/kingofthering/sarah_palin_5.jpg

:lovedup:

[Wildcat!]

Plus the whole concept of 'the one' is insane to begin with. I do believe in love. Deep, spiritual, passionate love, and all that. But I believe it can occur with literally thousands of individuals who suit you both mentally and physically. The idea of there being just one single woman in life who is your exact match is a bit ... ****.

And how come you always meet these women at a club at two in the morning? None of them seem to be in, say, Alaska.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/kingofthering/sarah_palin_5.jpg

:lovedup:

Damn!! LOL.
Cant argue with that point though. I dont believe in the one either. I think I have been with the one about 4 or 5 times already.
But I still support, those who decide to wait. Dont see the point in the rings, but whatever.

[bronaaaa]

It's a nice idea. I'd like to wait..but so long as I'm in love :blush2:

[Lauren]

Is that a polite way of putting him liking it hard and rough whilst she likes it gentle?

Or the other way around :hugesmile: But yes, I did actually type that first time around but decided it was too crude for my fairly intelligent conversation hahah.

[Niamh.]

Or the other way around :hugesmile: But yes, I did actually type that first time around but decided it was too crude for my fairly intelligent conversation hahah.

haha, it's hard to explain yourself properly in this conversation without sounding crude:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ohhhhhhhhh no it's not.

:wink:

sex with yourself does not count

[Stu]

sex with yourself does not count
It's funny how you choose that quote to post, instead of the more recent one where I clearly caught you out after what you thought was probably a smart comment that could catch me out.

I would say it is, considering it had a firm grasp on her ass at the time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's funny how you choose that quote to post, instead of the more recent one where I clearly caught you out after what you thought was probably a smart comment that could catch me out.

no

its because I am a bit slow on the driveway this morning and as of yet have not turned on the "funny" button.

or

what you said

[Stu]

no

its because I am a bit slow on the driveway this morning and as of yet have not turned on the "funny" button.

or

what you said
Whiskey hangover? :hugesmile:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Whiskey hangover? :hugesmile:

My new litre bottle of Grants has had a fright. I blame the very good children in need concert

[Stu]

Jude, eh, Jude, eh, Judehjudehjudeh!

Goes well with being bonkered in the head, alright.

[Ross]

Just have sex whenever you want, wherever you want, with whoever you want.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just have sex whenever you want, wherever you want, with whoever you want.

is the wrong answer.

[InOne]

is the wrong answer.

It is a good answer. Purity rings are a load of American Christian Fundie bollocks

[Lauren]

is the wrong answer.

Why? So long as it's legal and consensual it does not harm you (unless a pregnancy is brought into it, but Ross did not for one moment suggest no protection).

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why? So long as it's legal and consensual it does not harm you (unless a pregnancy is brought into it, but Ross did not for one moment suggest no protection).

but we do not live in "happyland"

[Lauren]

but we do not live in "happyland"

Depends how much drink "we" have had!

[Stu]

but we do not live in "happyland"
Lauren's point still stands though. If two unmarried people want to have sex, and if they do it safe, and if they both consent, off to the races they go. On what grounds do you object that? Your own personal beliefs that you think should be applied to all?

[Niamh.]

lol @ LT saying he doesn't believe in sex before marriage yet he would like to "hate f u c k" Grace Dent!!

[Lauren]

Don't know how I missed this, but what on earth is a hate f uck?

[Niamh.]

Don't know how I missed this, but what on earth is a hate f uck?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122583&page=2

I don't know but this is what he said on another thread lol:joker:

[Beastie]

There should be a TIBB orgy!! and I will film it!!

lights camera..... ACTION!

[atieah2009]

I'm a Christian BUT I didn't wait until marriage to have sex (I'm not married yet). I mean, this is from another era, come on, we don't get married at 18 like our grand parents. We are young, free, confident, we live to party and to meet new people.
And it's generally the people who have the most restrictions that will do the exact contrary because what is forbidden is attractive. It's a lot of hypocrisy to be honest.

I agree with you, in my religion males are allowed to have fun and sex before marriage:) not sure about females,(shia , islam)

And i agree i saw a girl with a hijab being pounded in hyde park.

They always do what there parents told them not to.

[atieah2009]

Although i agree with people marrying then having sex.

[Crimson Dynamo]

lol @ LT saying he doesn't believe in sex before marriage yet he would like to "hate f u c k" Grace Dent!!

naturally Grace and I would have tied the knot previously in Vegas (Elvis theme). This would make the copulatory act and subsequent divorce all the more hateful and yet enjoyable.

:devil:

[Niamh.]

naturally Grace and I would have tied the knot previously in Vegas (Elvis theme). This would make the copulatory act and subsequent divorce all the more hateful and yet enjoyable.

:devil:

:laugh2:

Oh LT you really are funny you know!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

:laugh2:

Oh LT you really are funny you know!!

and you?

perceptive

[Niamh.]

and you?

perceptive

why thank you sir:dance: