This is why Kris Allen won American Idol

[Arneldo]

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[MrGaryy]

am i the onyl one who genuinely thinks his performance was fanatastic? The vocals were pretty good considering everything going on around stage and it was his debut performance. The kiss and dancer in his crotch were a bit out there but lets face it, if Lady GaGa had done that no one would care.

[Arneldo]

He's is trying SO hard to be a male GaGa. Back to the drawing board, Lambert. It's a wonder why he wasn't kicked off after his 'Ring Of Fire' performance for crimes against music.

[MrGaryy]

He probably is, but I don't see that as a bad thing, it's an open market. I'm all for it and I liked that performance. He's the most interesting and exciting thing ever to come from American Idol.

[and Kris won because he's better looking, more relatable and straight, imo :P]

[Captain.Remy]

Male Lady Gaga FAIL. :laugh:

[Wildcat!]

It was an embarrassing performance. And very dissapointing, considering that most people think Adam Lambert is a great vocalist. HE was flat with his vocals, and only aimed to shock. He didnt gain any fans, if anything, he lost some of his already rich fan base.
There was nothing fantasti about it, apart from a car rash eurovison type performance. ANd it had nothing to do with him being gay. I wouldve been just as annoyed, if it was a female doing the oral sex simulation
Its sad because I was looking forward to a great performance all night waiting for the finale.

ANd no, I dont think thats why Adam Lambert lost, because he didnt do anything of the sort on AI. HE lost because its more diffiult for someone like him to win over a clean cut singer like Kris. But Adam will still be way more successful in spite of that dreadful performance.

[Lewis.]

What the actual Feck. I thought he was a lot better than that :O

[MrGaryy]

It was an embarrassing performance. And very dissapointing, considering that most people think Adam Lambert is a great vocalist. HE was flat with his vocals, and only aimed to shock. He didnt gain any fans, if anything, he lost some of his already rich fan base.
There was nothing fantasti about it, apart from a car rash eurovison type performance. ANd it had nothing to do with him being gay.
I don't think anyone is implying it's to do with his sexuality, though I personally think the backlash is for the most part, down to his gender.

and also, i was not a fan of his up until I saw that performance and released how talented he really is.

[Tom4784]

It was a very daring performance I'll give him that. The vocals were everywhere but at least he sang live which other artist doing big routines wouldn't have. He's entitled to have one or two bad performances since he was consistantly brilliant in AI. He's definately different to a lot of AI contestants.

[Stacey.]

Kris is amazinggg,, my favourite contestant alongg with Megan Joy!! :D

[Firewire]

I like Adam's music.

Not personally his performances.

However, I like Kris' performances and his music. Kris was the rightful winner.

[Tom4784]

Kris was my other favourite, he was a safe winner really.

[Wildcat!]

I don't think anyone is implying it's to do with his sexuality, though I personally think the backlash is for the most part, down to his gender.

and also, i was not a fan of his up until I saw that performance and released how talented he really is.

But I dont get that! Because, he wasnt anywhere near as good as on AI! So the only thing I can think of, is you liked the whole shock value performance. SO you only like him because he did the whole oral sex simulation, and S&M stuff. Since you werent a fan, when he was actually singing great on AI, youre not interested in good vocals. If so, thats fair enough.

[Tom4784]

But I dont get that! Because, he wasnt anywhere near as good as on AI! So the only thing I can think of, is you liked the whole shock value performance. SO you only like him because he did the whole oral sex simulation, and S&M stuff. Since you werent a fan, when he was actually singing great on AI.

So just because you don't agree with him you're saying his only a fan of the shock tactics?

Adam's performance was less controlled then on AI but it was still a rather interesting vocal that went with the style of the performance. Perfection is boring.

[MrGaryy]

But I dont get that! Because, he wasnt anywhere near as good as on AI! So the only thing I can think of, is you liked the whole shock value performance. SO you only like him because he did the whole oral sex simulation, and S&M stuff. Since you werent a fan, when he was actually singing great on AI, youre not interested in good vocals. If so, thats fair enough.

You would say he was nowhere as good, I would say he was better there, because he was being himself totally and utterly and thats a self I like. He was fitting into a mould they had set out for him on AI, here's he's doing his own thing, having fun and doing something a little different to everyone else who had performed. As an artist he excites me, I'm just a tad offended you think the only reason I've begun to support him is doing do him getting a BJ on stage.

[Wildcat!]

So just because you don't agree with him you're saying his only a fan of the shock tactics?

Adam's performance was less controlled then on AI but it was still a rather interesting vocal that went with the style of the performance. Perfection is boring.

No, I only went by what mrgarry said. And he is entitled to like him for the theatrics of the performance, which he obviously did. He didnt like him on AI, and he like him now. Its pretty obvious why he likes him. And like I said, thats fair enough, everyone has a reason why they like a performer.

[Wildcat!]

You would say he was nowhere as good, I would say he was better there, because he was being himself totally and utterly and thats a self I like. He was fitting into a mould they had set out for him on AI, here's he's doing his own thing, having fun and doing something a little different to everyone else who had performed. As an artist he excites me, I'm just a tad offended you think the only reason I've begun to support him is doing do him getting a BJ on stage.

But he was never fitting to a mould even on AI, he was always different. My only point is, on AI, he had great vocals. And on the AMA's his vocals were bad.
And I dont mean just the blow job, I meant the whole theatrics of the performance. BUt like I said before, there is nothing wrong with that. But isnt it fair to say that the vocals dont really matter to you then?

[MrGaryy]

But he was never fitting to a mould even on AI, he was always different. My only point is, on AI, he had great vocals. And on the AMA's his vocals were bad.
And I dont mean just the blow job, I meant the whole theatrics of the performance. BUt like I said before, there is nothing wrong with that. But isnt it fair to say that the vocals dont really matter to you then?

How exactly was he different? Different to the others maybe, but he fitted in exactly the the role the producers wanted him to be, that wasn't him.

I realise you didn't just mean the BJ, but either way you're totally off. And no, that would not be fair to say, vocals play a huge part in my opinion of an artist but I also beleive that amazing vocals can be substituted with passable ones if someone is expressing themselves so well via other mediums.

[Wildcat!]

How exactly was he different? Different to the others maybe, but he fitted in exactly the the role the producers wanted him to be, that wasn't him.

I realise you didn't just mean the BJ, but either way you're totally off. And no, that would not be fair to say, vocals play a huge part in my opinion of an artist but I also beleive that amazing vocals can be substituted with passable ones if someone is expressing themselves so well via other mediums.

Ah, fair enough. I get what you mean now, about tolerating not so great voals, with an energetic performance.
But personally, I was expecting much better from him! It was actually the only performance I was waiting with anticipation.

[MrGaryy]

Ah, fair enough. I get what you mean now, about tolerating not so great voals, with an energetic performance.
But personally, I was expecting much better from him! It was actually the only performance I was waiting with anticipation.

pretty much yeah :P

I can totally see why it wouldn't be some people's thing. I think it started off a great but by the last minute or so it was definitely verging on 'MUST. MAKE. TOMORROWS. HEADLINES'. He really is pulling a GaGa, not in a musical sense but in terms of playing the media. Good on him I say.

oh and for the record - I don;t find him REMOTELY attractive LOL.

[Twilight]

I though he was a male Gaga Lol
but god hes so hot<3

[xDramatick]

I thought it was amazing.

[BBUK4LYFE]

His performance vocally was not anything to brag about and it was definitely not appropriate for prime time tv.

[BBUK4LYFE]

It was an embarrassing performance. And very dissapointing, considering that most people think Adam Lambert is a great vocalist. HE was flat with his vocals, and only aimed to shock. He didnt gain any fans, if anything, he lost some of his already rich fan base.
There was nothing fantasti about it, apart from a car rash eurovison type performance. ANd it had nothing to do with him being gay. I wouldve been just as annoyed, if it was a female doing the oral sex simulation
Its sad because I was looking forward to a great performance all night waiting for the finale.

ANd no, I dont think thats why Adam Lambert lost, because he didnt do anything of the sort on AI. HE lost because its more diffiult for someone like him to win over a clean cut singer like Kris. But Adam will still be way more successful in spite of that dreadful performance.
Damn near perfect post. I agree with everything you said.

[Tom4784]

But didn't his performance air at 11 o clock at night? Didn't Gaga bleed all over the stage at the MTV awards? Where was the controversy about violence or whatever with that? the backlash against him is (mostly) sexism and homophobia. The only really questionable part of that performance was the groin thrusts really but in reality it was a very tame performance, it's just the more conservative side of America making a storm in a tea cup.

[MiuMiu]

Kris Allen was hot too!
:)

[*mazedsalv**]

I never got it with Adam, I just didnt like his vocal, his performances or his type of music.

Kris Allen was much better IMO, so im glad he won.

[BBUK4LYFE]

But didn't his performance air at 11 o clock at night? Didn't Gaga bleed all over the stage at the MTV awards? Where was the controversy about violence or whatever with that? the backlash against him is (mostly) sexism and homophobia. The only really questionable part of that performance was the groin thrusts really but in reality it was a very tame performance, it's just the more conservative side of America making a storm in a tea cup.

Wait did you really just compare ABC to MTV?

[Tom4784]

Wait did you really just compare ABC to MTV?

Still a relevant point, MTV would have attracted a younger audience to see Gaga's performance and yet nothing was said about the violence in her performance, yet a few risque dance moves and a gay kiss sets the world on fire. I'd say at least 80% of the people who have made complaints in America about Adam's performances are homophobic, I'd bet most complaints were about the kiss rather then the pelvic thrusts.